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The Creature from the Black Pill
A Reply to Ryan Faulk

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It was only a few weeks ago that I did an interview with Ryan Faulk of Alternative Hypothesis fame here in the pages of Counter-Currents. I thought it was a good interview, and Faulk had a lot of interesting things to say.

But then after that interview, Faulk went on hiatus for a month, and when he resurfaced, he announced that he was no longer a White Nationalist – this coming from Dr. OG Ethnostate himself. Now, for me, this is like going on a date with a girl, and then the next day, she declares herself a lesbian. I can’t help but wonder, “Was it something I said?”

Probably not. A lot of the research Faulk relies on comes from his frequent collaborator, Sean “Garfunkle” Last, aka “the other guy.” But still . . .

In the past, Ryan Faulk has expressed a dislike for the term “White Nationalism” on strategic grounds while still being an ideological White Nationalist. That’s not what I’m talking about here, however. Faulk has now straight-up disavowed the very concept itself. He also thinks a pan-European ethnostate is a futile pipe dream. Damn, bro, do you even believe in race?

As one might expect, Faulk has been taking a lot of grief lately. He has been accused of being a cuck, a coward, a shill, a sperg, a sellout, a race traitor, a regular traitor (that would be in addition to being a race traitor), and all the rest. I think I even heard one person accuse Faulk of stealing the Lindbergh baby.

But it’s not just the fact that Faulk disavowed White Nationalism that has ruffled feathers. It’s also the nonchalant way he did so, like someone walking into work and casually announcing that they left their spouse of many years the night before in they same manner that they talk about the weather. You expect them to be a little more . . . I dunno. Something.

Honestly, I think people are being a bit harsh on the lad. I think this is just a simple case of an autiste being autistic and, well, what are you gonna do? Getting mad at an autiste for being autistic is like getting mad at a dog for barking. It’s a dog. It’s what they do.

So if Faulk’s not a White Nationalist anymore, then just what in blue blazes is he? Well, that’s pretty complicated. I mean, it’s kinda, sorta civic nationalist, but also implicitly Anglo supremacist. It’s also kinda, sorta functionally White Nationalist, but not for all whites.

Okay. Faulk wants a state. Actually, he wants several states. US states, that is. Then, after the passage of a constitutional amendment, those US states will join together and form some kind of quasi-autonomous state-within-a-state, but that state (which, for the purposes of this article, I will refer to as “the Faulklands”) will not be an ethnostate. But in a way, it will be. Like, sort of functionally, but not technically. Confused yet?

Look, it’s simple. The Faulklands will be like an ethnostate, but it won’t actually be an ethnostate. Imagine a white ethnostate, but one that you might not necessarily be able to get into (when you read the fine print, there are no guarantees), but instead of being for white people, this “ethnostate” will be for conservatives (who are really an ethno-religion when you think about it, doncha know?).

The Faulklands will be mostly white people because the state ideology (or more precisely, the quasi-autonomous state-within-a-state ideology) will be conservativism, which disproportionately appeals to white people, but based black guys in Trump hats can (in theory) get into the Faulklands if they have a high enough IQ and if they have the right facial bone structure. The Faulklands will be kinda, sorta libertarian (but not too libertarian), but also with this weird cyberpunk element that I’ll get to in a bit.

Now, I’ve got some good news and some bad news. The good news is that Faulk says there is in fact a master race. The bad news is that it’s the English. Well, not just the English (and not all English), but generally all the people who live along the North Sea coast: southeast England, northern France (and my ancestors had to come from central France . . .), the Netherlands, and Belgium. Well, I guess the wogs don’t begin at Calais after all. Turns out it’s actually the Rhine. Faulk calls these North Sea people “First Worldists,” or the “First Worldist” strain, aka “the Sons of the European Revolution.” Faulk says these First Worldists – and not “whites” in general – are the real civilization-builders who created the First World, and thus the rest of the white race has basically just been piggybacking on top of the good reputation of the First Worldists.

Oh, and the master of that master race? Anglo-Americans. Anglo-Americans are apparently the caviar of First Worldists. Heil Thurston Howell III!

Dutch actor Rutger Hauer: second-tier First Worldist.

Anyway, Faulk fleshed out his new vision and direction over the course of these three videos. I can’t promise that they will be any more understandable than I just described, but if you want, give it a go anyway:

  1. GG for Richard Spencer and White Nationalism (only the first 25 minutes; the rest is fairly uncontroversial)
  2. Discarding Pan-European White Nationalism or Taking the European Revolution Seriously
  3. Responding to White Nationalists

Like I said, it’s pretty complicated.

To be honest, I’m not entirely sure that it’s even meant to be understood. Maybe you’re just supposed to experience it. Treat it like a Pink Floyd album. Burn some incense and turn the lights down low. Find yourself a comfy chair and press play. Then you just sorta let the words wash over you and lose yourself in the white noise. Just bask in the sonic cathedral which is Ryan Faulk’s voice and the lush soundscapes of the background music. Really helps you forget about your pain for a while. Psychedelics optional.

Being predominantly Anglo, you can expect the Faulklands to have a thriving synthpop scene. Pictured here are Priss and Roy from Faulklandic New Wave pioneers, The Replicants.

But assuming that The Alternative Hypothesis’ new direction is not some kind of avant-garde performance piece intended to be more poetry than propaganda and is in fact meant to be understood, it requires some deconstruction, because there’s quite a lot that I don’t think he’s quite thought through.

Let us begin . . .

Okay, so Faulk says he has turned from White Nationalism for three reasons:

  1. He overestimated the importance of “the Genetic Mesh.”
  2. He thought Europeans were a lot more genetically similar than they are.
  3. He’s blackpilled on white solidarity.

Now, I’m not going to try to argue with Faulk on points one and two. Genetics is not my forte. I’m just an artist who can talk some politics. But I do have a bone to pick with him on point three.

Faulk says that once upon on a time, he thought that inside every white person was a White Nationalist waiting to get out. He believed that the only things stopping white people from becoming White Nationalists was that A) that they were ignorant of the facts, and B) that there was an emotional barrier. There were just too many emotional landmines and tripwires when it comes to the subject of race. But once people were armed with the facts and the emotional tripwires were disarmed, there would be no logical reason for any white person not to then become a White Nationalist.

As evidence, Faulk points to examples like YouTubers Andy Warski, Ethan Ralph, and Mister Metokur. Those three are all guys who know all the White Nationalist talking points. And they all platform and/or appear on streams with some of the most hardcore White Nationalists out there, from Patrick Little to Andrew Anglin, and from Mike Enoch to David Duke. They can have calm and civil conversations with White Nationalists without being triggered every thirty seconds, so it would appear that a lot of their emotional boobytraps have already been dismantled. And yet none of those guys (Warski, Metokur, or Ralph) have become White Nationalists. To Faulk, this invalidates the concept of white solidarity, and has led to him discarding his belief that “inside every white person is a White Nationalist dying to get out.”

There are a few things to be said about this.

First, it’s not just an emotional barrier that keeps white people from becoming White Nationalist. There is also a huge social penalty for doing so. If you’re an eccentric autiste with a loner streak who never really fit in to the mainstream matrix to begin with (and I speak as one myself), paying that social cost might not be all that big of a deal. There is also a huge social penalty for being a black conservative. Black conservatives are shunned by other blacks. But if a black guy grew up in the white suburbs listening to Van Halen and never felt much attachment to the greater black community, that social penalty might not be all that bad. But for inner-city blacks whose social circle is predominantly black, the social cost of being a black conservative would be a lot higher. Social costs can differ greatly from person to person. Some people are not willing to pay it.

Faulk is also not taking family into consideration (this will be a recurring theme). Some people might be willing to accept the social cost and be a martyr for The Truth – if it were just them. But forcing social costs onto their loved ones is another matter entirely. I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect married people to immediately take up The Cause. And of course, some people have, ahem, “conflicts of interest” (if you know what I mean).

And some people can only afford so much. For now, at least. While being an open White Nationalist is still pretty goddamn socially expensive, merely associating with White Nationalism is a hell of a lot cheaper than it was just a few years ago. I consider that to be progress. Three years ago, retweeting White Nationalists was too socially expensive for Ann Coulter, but now it’s in her price range.

The fact that people like Ethan Ralph are willing to platform Andrew Anglin is a sign that the social costs of White Nationalism are decreasing. Not long ago, platforming such people was too socially expensive for just about anyone who was not already openly identifying as a White Nationalist. And it may very well be the case that people like Warski, Metokur, and Ralph are actually more useful to The Cause as allies than as adherents. We do need some gateways, or else we become a circle jerk. And I’m not entirely sure some of them aren’t “secret agents” in some capacity. It’s interesting that Metokur never makes fun of White Nationalists, but regularly attacks our enemies. He could have done a video on the cuckbox episode that would have gotten a million views, and he didn’t. And Ethan Ralph, while not a White Nationalist per se, is certainly willing to be an accessory to White Nationalism.

Now, a cynic might say that people like Warski, Metokur, and Ralph only associate with White Nationalists for the money. There may very well be varying degrees of truth to that, depending on which one you are talking about. But I don’t really see that as being a problem. There will come a day for White Nationalism to go to the next level. It will require an eccentric millionaire with a lot of balls to spend a lot of money, and that person will most likely want to see that doing it is profitable (our savior will more likely be a capitalist than a philanthropist). It’s how punk went mainstream. It’s how thrash metal went from underground to MTV. That’s how it works. You prove that you are profitable, then the guys with the fancy suits and big cigars come by and start buying drinks for everyone and being suspiciously friendly. He thinks you’ve got talent and says he can make you a star.

Where was I? Ah, yes. White solidarity. Lemme tell you something about white solidarity. You know where you find a lot of it? In prison. There are no SJWs in prison, and multi-racial gangs only exist in Michael Jackson videos. If a white shitlib SJW walks into the prison cafeteria on their first day, they are going to try to sit down at the table with the other whites. They are not going to try to SJW it up in prison. Outside of their comfort zone, it’s safety first.

Prison proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that whites will choose racial solidarity if it can be demonstrated to them that the alternative is anal rape. Our job as White Nationalists is to convince white people that the alternative to becoming one is metaphorical anal rape by Jews. Mostly metaphorical, that is. The how is that, as society starts to more closely resemble a prison, whites will start acting more like whites in prison do.

In the Faulklands, there will be both small government and an amazing array of restaurants. And you thought you had to choose!

Now let me get to his Faulklands project.

Faulk now believes that the white ethnostate is a pipe dream, but I fail to see how his Faulklands project is any less fanciful. For one, it’s complicated, and Americans – particularly American conservatives – hate complexity. So, by its very nature, it is unappealing to its target audience. Conservatives like the simplicity of small government. They like they simplicity of the flat tax. If Faulk’s plan is too complex for the people most likely to embrace it, then your average Limbaugh listener has no chance, and the project will fail.

Second, Faulk says that Anglo-American conservatism is a de facto ethno-religion, not unlike Judaism. It’s sort of a religion, but it also has an ethnic core. Falk says Mormons qualify as an ethno-religion. But to me, that’s like the Beatles comparing themselves to Jesus Christ. Yes, the Beatles were extraordinarily popular when John Lennon said that, but you don’t compare yourself to Jesus Christ until your popularity has endured for as long as Christ’s has. I mean, Jews have been around for thousands of years. Anglo-American conservatism has only been around for a few hundred, which is a historical blink of an eye.

Plus, the analogy of Anglo-American conservatism as an ethno-religion à la Jews is itself deeply flawed. Religions are eternal. The Bible says the same thing now that it did 1,500 years ago. What it means to be a Jew remains constant throughout the millennia, but what it means to be “a conservative” is constantly in flux. Prevailing political and moral paradigms shift over time. These days, the prevailing political paradigm is the conflict between globalism and nationalism. But during the Cold War, it was individualism versus collectivism. In the Civil War, it was states’ rights versus federalism. Before that, it was monarchy versus democracy. At times, it’s been about intervention and non-intervention in a foreign war, which frequently divides along ethnic lines.

Say you set up a multi-racial state based on shared political beliefs on the issues of the day, but then a political paradigm shift occurs (which it always does). Can you be sure that your multi-racial alliance would all stay on the same page? Or is it possible that things could just divide back into white and non-white factions? Say the white Faulklanders wanna help out the white South Africans in some way because they feel a connection with their co-ethnics, but the non-white Faulklanders, who feel no such sentimental connection, don’t.

I think the most salient aspect of Faulk’s new direction is that he now considers the heritability of political beliefs to be a more significant data set than race and IQ. Thus, Faulk wants a quasi-state that only takes the good, conservative, civilization-building whites who all believe X, Y, and Z, and are likely to have children who also believe X, Y, Z, and only the based non-whites in Trump hats who also believe in X, Y, and Z and are likely to have children who also believe X, Y, and Z. Basically, he wants a big clubhouse with a “No Liberals Allowed” sign by the door.

Anglo-American superman and Faulklandic immigration officer Dave Holden giving a Voight-Kampff test to a hopeful immigrant.

The question that you are probably asking right now is, “How do you keep liberals and freeloading looters from just lying their way into the Faulklands by pretending to be conservatives?”

Strap yourselves in, because this is about to get good.

According to Faulk, all you need to do (a trifle, really) is give every potential immigrant to the Faulklands a Blade Runner-style Voight-Kampff test to ascertain their true ideological views (this is the cyberpunk element I mentioned earlier). So the applicant would walk in, sit down, and be asked emotionally-charged questions about various social and political issues. The test-giver will not only review the applicants’ verbal responses, but also monitor their stress levels, eye movement, face flushing, and eventually sniff out the doppelgangers among us. You know, like in Blade Runner.

“You’re in a desert walking along the sand. You look down and see a refugee crawling towards you. Why aren’t you helping him?”

Also to be taken into consideration would be previous party registration and facial structure. Race would be a consideration, but not a deal breaker. Faulk assures us that this test would be 90-95% accurate. Now, 95% is a fantastic number if you are talking about how many hit points your video game character has left. It’s a great number if you’re talking about the charge in your cell phone. But in the world of law, business, and politics, 5% is a fucking huge number. Imagine a business that only got your order right 95% of the time. Their Yelp page would look like shit, and people would stop shopping there. Or imagine a criminal justice system that only delivered the correct verdict 90% of the time. Or if a product malfunctioned 5% of the time. It would have to be recalled.

People would not stand for a vetting process that is only 95% accurate. You would have situations where a husband is accepted, but his wife isn’t. Then they’d go crying to the media about how they’ve been loyal Republicans all their lives but were unjustly discriminated against because of their shitlib facial structure. We’re talking about a nation that would include tens of millions of people, so 5% is going to add up to hundreds of thousands of really, really pissed off people. 5% means a shitload of lawsuits, and your court system getting clogged up.

I mean, just who, exactly, are those 5-10% that the Voight-Kampff gets wrong? Are we talking about false positives or false negatives? Liberals passing the Voight-Kampff, or conservatives failing? Each would have different consequences. Is there a 10% chance that Mr. Faulk himself might fail?

What if someone has a child? Do you test the child when he is young, or do you wait until he turns 18? What if the child turns 18 and fails the test? Is he then banished from the Faulklands? If so, where does he go?

Families in general would be a major sticking point in Faulk’s high-IQ civnat state. In a theoretical white ethnostate, whole families could move there together. Not so in the Faulklands. If a family has multiple ideologies among its members, only those who are true conservatives with the bone structure to prove it can move there. So basically, people are put into a position of having to choose between their family and muh Constitution.

The problem with this is that people would not feel the need to embark on a Faulklands-style project unless it were clear the current system is collapsing and that society is in freefall. People will not feel the urgency to embark upon such a project until they see the edge of the cliff approaching. But that’s also when people would be least likely to abandon members of their families, most especially if they knew they would be unsafe. American conservatives are not Syrians. Just one shitlib in an otherwise conservative family who couldn’t get into the Faulklands would be enough to keep a lot of entire families from going. Faith, family, and fatherland: that’s what being a conservative is all about. If things got really intolerable, they would just find some other place to move where they could all go together that wasn’t the Faulklands. That would be the conservative thing to do.

And then there is the issue of women. Ryan acknowledges that the state’s population would need to be half male and half female. The problem with this is that men are a lot more conservative than women tend to be. Everyone knows this. So you would have a lot more men trying to get in than women, and then the laws of supply and demand kick in. So to get the gender balance of the Faulklands right, you would either need to A) lower the standards of admission for women (allow some tolerably mild shitlib women in) or B) turn away a lot of based men who qualify. The problem with B is that people will not support a project if they think there’s a good chance that they might not even get in. Why put forth all the effort just for a lottery ticket? So that leaves us with A. Dare I say it? You would need a kind of affirmative action for women.

Her mouth says “Make America Great Again” but her eyes say “Resist!”

And how would you deal with illegal immigrants? How would you smoke those guys out? In a theoretical white ethnostate, you’d be able to spot the illegal immigrants easily because, well, they are the ones who aren’t white. But a Faulklander can look like anything. So what do you do? Do you have police units that go around and give people on-the-spot Voight-Kampff tests? I mean, the Faulklands would need literal blade runners.

Much like the NKVD in the old Soviet Union, the Faulklandic Blade Runner Units (or BRUs, as they are known in the biz) will be disproportionately Jews, albeit very based ones. Most of the time, you can spot them by their red Trump hats, although a plainclothes officer is pictured here.

But the real kicker, the thing which in my opinion undermines his entire argument, comes in his response video to White Nationalists. Faulk says (and I quote): “White Nationalism could work if you could get every single white person and force them to sit through a three-hour presentation. But since that’s not happening . . .”

Is that what we’re talking about? Three goddamn hours? Faulk is abandoning White Nationalism because white people can’t be bothered to consume three hours’ worth of information on race-realism? Well, I think it would take a bit longer than three hours of persuasion to get people to agree to a Voight-Kampff. Why would a person who has dedicated their life to the Republican Party even agree to take such a test when there is a chance that, through no fault of their own, they might fail it?

How long of a presentation would the Faulklands require? Well, you would have to redpill people on the heritability of political beliefs. The whole plan hinges on this, so you would need the majority of conservatives redpilled on that. Faulk’s test would also take facial structure into consideration, so you would then also have to redpill on physiognomy. People are gonna wanna know what the hell that’s about. And then Faulk says that race would be considered as a factor. So he would also need to redpill people on race and IQ. You’re not going to be able to just slip things like “race” and “facial structure” into your Voight-Kampff algorithm without people asking a few questions – and then a few hundred follow-up questions.

Nightlife in the Faulklands.

In closing, let me say that I think arguing or even talking about the ethnostate – or any endgame scenario – is kind of retarded. Well, I take that back. It’s not kind of retarded. It is retarded.[1] Arguing about the ethnostate at this point is like an unknown garage band arguing about how to split up the songwriting royalties after they land their major-label record deal. The drummer thinks it should be an even split. But the guitarist, who actually writes all the songs, thinks that’s unfair. I mean, he wrote everything. He’s “the talent,” you see. But then again, you can’t just let him have all the royalties. After all, it’s Charlie’s garage they’ve been practicing in. There would be no band at all if it weren’t for Charlie. And it’s the singer’s PA system they’ve been using all this time!

Here’s an idea. Why don’t you get the major-label record deal first, and then argue about the songwriting royalties?

I don’t see any point in talking about any kind of endgame until the masses are awakened to the fact that the status quo is unsustainable. That alone is a process that could take years. Once that is done, and once people realize that multiculturalism is unmanageable and that the current system won’t last, then we can start talking about endgames. And by that time, the sociopolitical landscape will have shifted and we will have a better idea of what our options are.

You see, the worst thing about Ryan Faulk’s ethnostate videos – and his Faulklands videos do the same thing – is that they all start out with, “The first thing is that we need to get tens of millions of people to move to these handful of states, okay, and then after that . . .” It’s like the old Steve Martin joke: “You can be a millionaire and never pay taxes. How can you be a millionaire and never pay taxes? First, you get a million dollars . . .”

Perhaps it would be more helpful if Ryan Faulk spent a little more time explaining how exactly we get tens of millions of people to move to a handful of states and less time worrying about what to do after they all get there. A marketing strategy, maybe? Even a catchy slogan would be helpful.

Faulk has said that we have to give people an endgame. We have to give people a final goal. Really? Or what? What terrible fate will befall us if we don’t give people an endgame? Look, if you’re on a sinking ship, you don’t need to explain to people how they will get to their destination after they are in the lifeboat. You just have to convince them that the ship is sinking. I don’t think you need to be any more specific than to say, “The current system is unsustainable, and we’re eventually going to have to break up the country. Break it into what? Who knows? We’ll figure it out. But what I do know for sure is that the alternative is that we will all drown, and nothing could be worse than that.”

There’s no good reason to spend time worrying about it now. That way lies madness. I say, let’s leave the details to our grandchildren.


[1] “But Trav,” you say, “you claim talking about endgames and ethnostates is retarded, and yet you just wrote an entire article talking about endgames and ethnostates.” This is true. But I only did that because I thought of a mildly clever headline and just had to write an article to go along with it. Normally, I never talk about endgames or ethnostates. My muse works in very mysterious ways.

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  1. Teutonick
    Posted September 4, 2018 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Personally, I think it’s pointless and a complete waste of time to talk about any kind of ethno-state.

    That’s not saying I wouldn’t like one, or that it wouldn’t work. I’m just saying that until their is a strong white identity, nothing is going to happen.

    Instead, we should be focusing on awakening whites. I’m not going to claim to know the best way to do this, but I think that we can all agree that this must be the first step.

    Until we have a strong identity that is treated as equally valid as Black, Asian, or Hispanic, we aren’t going to achieve much of anything. How can we hope to achieve an ethno-state if we can’t even get white people to stand up for themselves?

  2. Le Happy Pepe
    Posted September 4, 2018 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    I’ve learned allot from Ryan regarding race/IQ. In fact, he was the one who “Red Pilled” me in the first place. However, I’ve come to realize after following him for a long time that on anything other than pure statistical analysis, he is basically an inconsistent autist. At first, he was a marxist, then a neoconservative, then a white nationalist, then an ancap, then back to being a white nationalist, then he became whatever he is now. To be fair he went through the first two phases before he started posting online, but still.

    He also has a weird habit of being obsessed with the meaning of specific words. For example, he spent most of his ancap days insisting that “state” and “government” shouldn’t be used interchangeably. He opposed using the term race realism because he found use of the word “realism” to be pretentious. For a while, he was obsessed with litigating the definition of the word “racism” (or rather, showing that it had no valid definition). So, I am not surprised that he got hung-up on “white nationalism” in some weird semantic way.

    My point is, don’t take it personally. I am sure he’ll come back around eventually.

    • Posted September 4, 2018 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

      “He also has a weird habit of being obsessed with the meaning of specific words. For example, he spent most of his ancap days insisting that “state” and “government” shouldn’t be used interchangeably. ”

      These specifics are not all that weird to get hung up on. Your first example is your best but even then that’s only because I don’t have any use for the distinction he is trying to make. If you listened to him explain it though you should understand what he is trying to mean with one word as opposed to another, guy’s not exactly stupid maybe you are.

      He opposed using the term race realism because he found use of the word “realism” to be pretentious.
      It is. There’s something off about the phrase it’s not a winner. Any competent marketing strategy would discard it and call it something else. It doesn’t even really need the name it’s like naming a belief in Santa and calling it Santa Realism and a believer in it a Santa Realist. All the time and effort you spend describing yourself and your beliefs you could just say race is real and race matters and be done with it already.

      “For a while, he was obsessed with litigating the definition of the word “racism” (or rather, showing that it had no valid definition).”
      This is the entirety of the reason for this response. This is productive it has no place next to your other nitpicks. smh

  3. Vagrant Rightist
    Posted September 4, 2018 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    There is a trend with content creators on the internet. The more they opine on one topic and do really good work, the more they seem to get frustrated with some aspect of what they are doing and end up deconstructing it to a point of absurdity, abandoning the thing that made them relevant to begin with. It’s as if they are frustrated they are not more popular and if they tell the world they now believe something else this will restore their prestige or edge whatever.

    There’s elements of that with Vox Day too. And it goes on in every subject, not just WN.

    I think this is what we are witnessing here.

    • leech
      Posted September 5, 2018 at 1:46 am | Permalink

      A bit of “Hume syndrome” going on there, I think… Bored smart guys deconstructing for the sake of it, until they end up being dogmatic and emotional about that deconstruction itself (since that is the only thing they are left with really, they have managed to dissolve everything else, at least in their minds). NRx and Alt Right had their fair share of such individuals.
      Anyway, the nature of autistes like Faulk is they are just too mercurial too be reliable in the long run. You can learn a far deal from their writing/YTing/podcasting, but they can never be long term ideological allies. They can just as easily end up arguing for the exact opposite next week.

      • Vagrant Rightist
        Posted September 5, 2018 at 2:15 am | Permalink

        Right. Mercurial, too young, not committed.

        And I just thought, it’s also a very white thing to do…unfortunately.

        It’s just a typical part of white individualism, ‘Look at me, over here, now I’m different to you other whites over there struggling with that thing. I’m defining myself in some other way’.

        Faulk has proved his own thesis about white solidarity to be true in his case.

        • Richard Denton
          Posted September 5, 2018 at 6:11 am | Permalink

          Hes actually quite old. Alt hype has been doing race realism videos online for over a decade.

  4. K
    Posted September 4, 2018 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think your case for white solidarity is particularly strong.
    1. Whites showing racial solidarity in prison could just mean that the worst whites are the ones who are most likely to show solidarity.

    2. South Africa shows that in broader society whites will not take their own side. Even though, they are being *raped* and murdered. I have a hard time seeing any other race taking and putting up with as much abuse as SA whites have.

    Also, the response by the larger group towards Faulk is awful. The guy is obviously having doubts and people are threatening to make him lose his job. JF has been incredibly obnoxious about this situation and this whole debacle just serves to alienate people. If people have doubts and the response by the broader movement is to act like a gang, it does not seem to give validity to our ideals to anyone watching.

    • alexei
      Posted September 5, 2018 at 3:28 am | Permalink

      People actually believe in this and are emotionally invested into it. You can blame them for being closed minded, for lacking openness, for not thinking about this, for overreacting and so on, and you’d be right. But if push comes to shove, I’ll take them over this icy intellectualism that is completely unmoored and detached from real word, and ultimately doesn’t believe in anything. I don’t blame Faulk for being what he is btw – author of the above article put in blunt n rough but ultimately fair way – I’ve got used to the type while hanging around Nick Land crowd and the like.

      • K
        Posted September 5, 2018 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

        Threatening to make someone who was an ally and might come back around is idiotic. That is the problem. The constant sperging out by the online crowd does nothing for us. Considering that we need to attract people who in real life have *a lot* to lose because the large majority of people cannot and will not think for themselves, threatening to make a long-term member lose his job and other such behaviour actively harms us. Not to mention, this same crowd constantly defends Spencer who has singlehandedly destroyed the Alt right brand and costed the movment a massive amount of resources via his retard rallies and his personal behaviour.
        This kind of thing has always been one of the most repulsive aspects of white nationalism.
        Ryan goes wrong because he is too much of a libertarian. The average person does what their told and believes what their told to believe. For instance, millions of white people would become pro white if say Conor McGregor was. JF did not benefit anybody, but himself by condoning this behavior and defending Spencer.

  5. Sin City Milla
    Posted September 4, 2018 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    You need to begin with a name. Hispanics have Aztlan. Blacks have Zion. Jews had Next year in Jerusalem n now have Israel. Whites should also have a semi-mythical ethnic locale to inspire n attract supporters to their blood n soil land: Columbia, Valhalla, Gondor, the Shire, America, Anglia, Deseret, Newmerica, Montana, or my favourite, Texas.

  6. Carefull
    Posted September 5, 2018 at 1:02 am | Permalink

    I believe your point 3 covers it all: Faulk has black pilled on white solidarity. It does not exist and will not exist for the current white population. There are epigenetic reasons for this (see r/K political theory).

    Unfortunately this means in essence that not all whites are the same.

    Now think about that, and think about where you want to be.
    I think Faulk has done just that, and he rejected the conclusions, if not consciously then unconsciously. Not surprising really because that is some heck of a dark corner to land in.

    So he did the only thing he could to do: reject the ethnostate.

    Still he does want it, and the tension this creates leads to all the weird constructions he talked about.

    To be sure, I am ‘mind-reading’ here. Maybe there is an other explanation, but I think the above would fit the data just fine.

    • K
      Posted September 5, 2018 at 2:33 am | Permalink

      I have a lot of empathy for Faulk’s reaction. I have similar doubts and misgivings. Considering my own treatment by Europeans, especially western Europeans who will consider an African who was born in their country to be more European than me (half Slavic half Anglo). Not to mention, nothing but ridicule and condescension from them because I am an American. It is very frustrating. The only Europeans I have really had positive interactions with were Ukrainians and Lithuanians.

      • Travis LeBlanc
        Posted September 5, 2018 at 8:20 am | Permalink

        You have to remember that Europeans only have about 15 minutes of experience with multiculturalism whereas us New Worlders have been dealing with issues of race for centuries. I don’t think it’s that surprising that Europeans are so naive about race. When it comes to multiculturalism, New Worlders are the sagely old wise men and Europeans the young novices.

        Europeans believe that the only reason that America has race problems is because of a legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. Those things created some kind of oppression feedback loop which continues to this day. Europeans believe that is long as their multicultural is not born of original sin, they should have a different result than America.
        Europeans have a lot of hard lessons ahead of them. It will take time for them to figure out that what they thought was merely growing pains is actually a tumor.

    • Richard Denton
      Posted September 5, 2018 at 6:07 am | Permalink

      You will see others such as Curt Doolittle saying the same thing. The idea is that it is not other races who are a problem that r/k thoery predicts a large part of the White race will always be degenerate etc. Curt Doolittle himself wants to get rid of a large part of even the functional White population by paying them not to have babies.

      Well r/k selection is a useful framework but is notoriously difficult to apply to humans. Also when push comes to shove and things get stressful race matters. When people of all races are put under stress they regress to an earlier more primitive more hardy form of behaviour. I am reminded of a recent Amren article where a ferry had to be evacuated and the most primitive group of people on board (blacks are usually the most primitive group of people anywhere unless you have a population of san bushmen with you) immediately functioned according to race and would not let others board their lifeboats.

      Fact is race matters. White lower class people and those of lower intelligence do not need to be culled they need guidance and a strong culture. I much favour Counter Currents solution (changing the culture and bringing back a healthier more functional culture) over those of the cold unsýmpathetic neo-eugenicists.

    • jon slavik
      Posted September 5, 2018 at 6:49 am | Permalink

      I think that you’re giving too much importance to emotional element in his judgement. I don’t think that he’s that sort of person, at all. I think that he got where he got rationally, same as before. He clearly spent a lot of time thinking about this before he went forward. Of course, as with all such rational systems, garbage in means garbage out.
      In any case, whether I agree with him or not, he seems to be honest seeker on his intellectual journey, rather than being yet another ideological partisan. I have no idea where he’ll end, but at least I can respect someone like that.

  7. Richard Denton
    Posted September 5, 2018 at 5:57 am | Permalink

    ‘But it’s not just the fact that Faulk disavowed White Nationalism that has ruffled feathers. It’s also the nonchalant way he did so, like someone walking into work and casually announcing that they left their spouse of many years the night before in they same manner that they talk about the weather. You expect them to be a little more . . . I dunno. Something.’

    Provided he was genuine in the first place of course. You will often see this in this movement. People who ostensibly agree that civic nationalism is insufficient and yeat dont really like White lower class people. Even working class neighbourhoods can be quite functional absent minorities and with a strong supportive culture. Unfortunately there are far too many people around who only like middle class Whitopas and have no connection or sympathy for all Whites (after all gentrified White neighbourhoods, lower middle class White suburbia and other Whiteopias could not exist without a balanced economic profile i.e a large White working class). Why has Ryan Faulk always been iffy about White nationalism? Because in a sense White nationalism has always been about both White collectivism and White self determination. This in my opinion is the litmus test for genuine good guys. If you are not sure about either of these then you are compromised, either racially, ideologically or sexually. Ryan Faulk himself is a homosexual.

    I am reminded of Greg Johnson’s piece about alt hype where he dismissed alt hype’s version of history which broadly stated that before Europeans underwent the outbreeding program within the Hajnal line they were essentially n***ers with blonde hair. Of course this is a laughably insufficient explanation. As Johnson said: ‘What about the Roman empire?”.

    Im rather sick of these fair weather friends. Where are the people who say my race right or wrong?

  8. Posted September 5, 2018 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Prison proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that whites will choose racial solidarity if it can be demonstrated to them that the alternative is anal rape.

    I once used this argument years ago. I thought it was pretty good, especially since it encourages Euro-American solidarity. Slavs, Anglo-Saxons, Mediterraneans, etc all join the same racialist prison gangs to protect themselves from non-white violence. They don’t fret about trivial differences among the various white ethnicities, since all of them have common racial enemies.

    Unfortunately, as Jared Taylor points out, most white inmates refuse to join white prison gangs. And they get beaten and raped for their racelessness.

    The racial dynamic in prisons puts whites at a tremendous disadvantage. First, whites are often outnumbered by both blacks and Hispanics. But far more important, just as they show no racial solidarity in “the free world,” whites in prison do not band together to protect each other from predators. As No Escape reports, Hispanics sometimes rape Hispanics, and blacks sometimes rape blacks, but neither group permits anyone of another race to rape its own people. If a black tried to “turn out” [i.e. rape] a Mexican, the Mexicans would riot and try to kill him. Blacks also defend each other from white or Hispanic rapists. It is only whites — unless they are known members of white racialist gangs who do stick together — who are on their own and can be raped with impunity. It would be hard to think of a more cruel consequence of stripping whites of racial consciousness.

  9. Nyrmyr
    Posted September 5, 2018 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    As a non-, or even anti-, white nationalist I have to agree with the point about the Youtube crowd. These people might not be white nationalists in the current climate but I also don’t see them particularly protesting if a white nationalist order came to pass since they just don’t care much either way and essentially go with the flow. Now if something burdened them in particular, they might care like if e.g. the white nationalist order wanted to censor the “degenerate video games” these geeks love.

    The woman-man split is also a very good point. On average, women aren’t male-like in their political and social views and the personality characteristics (e.g. nurturing, niceness) that lead to those is part of why most men like them in their own personal lives. Do most men, at least outside those internet fringes, really want to marry some extremely disagreeable libertarian chick?

    It was clear to this outsider before this turn of events that this Faulk guy was someone with no coherent, crystalized views. It’s also clear that so-called white nationalists also come from all sorts of different perspectives and barely have a common ideology despite being such a small minority in the first place (what was it, 6% for overt ones?). Combine those two and, yes, this whole project isn’t going anywhere so fantasizing about ethnostates in the USA seems a bit laughable. Europe on the other hand is still not over in those terms.

    Richard Denton, in your final point you come across as more sympathetic than 99% of libertarians of any race and let’s say 50% of white nationalists.

  10. Travis LeBlanc
    Posted September 7, 2018 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    If this is all a lost cause, I would rather go down in a blaze of glory. History will record that some of the white race died as men.

  11. Posted September 12, 2018 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Faulk has spent all his efforts trying to educate. But you can’t educate brainwashed demoralized people which is what most white people still are. Demoralization: “What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interests of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.” ~Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov. Demoralized people are impervious to facts. After they’ve been deprogrammed through repetition of counter-propaganda, then you can educate. Some pro-whites say when things get bad enough, white attitudes will change. Rob Tibbetts’s daughter was murdered and he didn’t change. If having your daughter murdered won’t change your mind, what environmental conditions do you think will? If you scoff at the idea of demoralization, how do you explain people like Rob Tibbetts and Amy Biehl’s parents who hired their daughter’s murderers? How do you explain the Stockholm-Syndrome-like state of whites in Sweden, Great Britain and Germany?

    Many pro-whites love to quote crime stats. But for a demoralized white person, a little crime is a small price to pay to virtue signal their solidarity with the holy cause of diversity. To a follower of the suicide cult of Political Correctness, quoting crime stats has the opposite effect of what you think it would. Worse is better? Well, yeah, to a religious zealot eager to prove his faith, worse is better.

    Pro-whites also love to talk about IQ. Whites have a right to exist regardless of IQ. And Asians have a higher IQ anyway, so what point do you think you are making? The moment an anti-white says “Whites stole America,” he is admitting he knows that race exists, he knows what a white person is, and he is saying races can collectively own land. I accept your definition of race and of white and I agree that races can collectively own land. Anti-whites love to argue endlessly about facts and definitions and ethics. They hate being told how anti-white THEY are. Why spend all that time trying to prove what EVERYBODY KNOWS AND ADMITS TO KNOWING? Use anti-white contradictions (race doesn’t exist but whites are uniquely evil) to discredit THEM.

    What all that explaining and educating boils down to is trying to justify why white people should exist. But is any other race asked to justify their right to exist? The moment you start trying to justify your right to exist and to have homelands and self-determination, you unnecessarily put yourself on the defensive. Whites have a right to exist. Whites have as much right to homelands and self-determination as every other race. Whites have a right to be free of the genocidal conditions of mass non-white immigration and forced assimilation currently being imposed on them. I am not going to expend any effort trying to justify rights unquestioned in any other race. The task before us right now is to discredit anti-whitism and deprogram brainwashed white people. We have to win the propaganda war and take power. Power comes from controlling public opinion.

    Ryan Faulk’s whole approach has been wrong from the start, and he’s a great example of how if you don’t get the basics of power and propaganda right, you’re not going to get anything else right. He’s frustrated that millions and millions of white people haven’t been persuaded by his brilliant arguments. Rather than admitting he’s wrong and trying to find out what DOES work, he’s just giving up. Faulk is not much of a loss.

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