Counter-Currents
Travis LeBlanc Against Right-Wing Cancel Culture
A Rebuttal
David M. Zsutty
Corey Comperatore, who was killed during the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, with his daughters. (Image source: Facebook)
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Former President Donald Trump was nearly assassinated on July 13 at a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. Corey Comperatore, a 50-year-old former Fire Chief and father of two who had lived his entire life in nearby Sarver, Pennsylvania was not so lucky. He was shot and killed while shielding his family from the gunfire. Two other innocent bystanders were likewise seriously injured in the shooting.
Since then, a number of liberals have brazenly announced their wish that the assassination attempt had been successful. Some have even mocked Comperatore. The Right-wing social media group Libs of TikTok has spearheaded a broad effort to have some of these people fired from their jobs, akin to what Leftists have been doing to Rightists who have expressed politically-incorrect thoughts for many years now.
Some conservatives have denounced this cooption of the Left’s “cancel culture,” mostly for bad reasons. In a refreshing change, Travis LeBlanc who is an excellent writer, has provided a well-reasoned argument for why a Right-wing cancel culture (RWCC) is a bad idea. Because his position is well-argued, I wish to offer a friendly rebuttal.
The first point I wish to address is LeBlanc’s view that the people who have been fired were “random normies,” in conjunction with a point I had seen online which contends that these people are blameless because the media had brainwashed them. “Normie” should not be used as a sweeping term to encompass everyone who is not on the dissident Right. I would rather define a normie as someone who is either apolitical or center-Left or center-Right, but not far-Left. The hallmark of the normie is a lack of agency. Whether a normie is on the Left or Right, they are passively dragged along by whatever their respective faction offers as the party line at any given moment, assuming they engage in politics at all. Although in their defense, despite their stupidity they are generally good-natured and simply want to get along with everyone. They’re a lot like hobbits.
In contrast, the far Left has a lot more agency. They actively push for their agenda, while the normies are passively pulled along. You can easily discern in campus politics who is a ringleader who revels in his power, and who is just along for the ride. The Democrat party line after Trump’s near brush with death, even if it was insincere and offered purely for optical reasons, was to decisively condemn political violence while offering their condolences to Trump and the other victims. It is obvious that the people we’re dealing with here are radical ringleaders instead of people who merely parrot whatever their media tells them from day to day.
For all their money and power, the elites need foot soldiers. The Left was eager to oblige them. They reveled in the opportunity to become rainbow commissars. There is no such thing as innocence now; only varying degrees of guilt. And we know that those who openly want Trump dead are probably a whole lot guiltier than the rest.
Furthermore, the average Leftist was in a far better position to push back against the years of rainbow terror than we were. We were silenced and disempowered. He who remains silent consents, and their silence ratified the anarcho-tyranny of their more radical cohorts. I do not know of a single Leftist who had questioned whether he had been going too far, either in terms of morality or pragmatism.
Furthermore, we may be in a culture war, but it is still a war. In the Second World War, for example, most of the random Siberians who were sent to charge the armies of Europe probably did so without being full aware of what was going on in the conflict. The Axis soldiers generally knew this about them, and even admired their insane courage. They nevertheless mowed them down when necessary, however, because the only other option was to be impaled on the end of a Cossack bayonet. Most of today’s Leftists have a much better idea of what they are doing than the Siberians who fought in the Red Amy did.
Much of the sympathy for those who have been doxed is centered on an elderly woman who lost her job at Home Depot. This is still a developing situation, but I’m willing to bet that the Home Depot lady has a social media footprint which will reveal her to be more of a vicious ringleader and less of a passive participant. She chose to be an enemy-combatant in the culture war, after all, and it is the height of arrogance and stupidity to think you won’t get hurt in a war.
LeBlanc’s next point is his strongest, which is that we will look insincere and hypocritical if we embrace RWCC after opposing the Left’s cancel culture for years. Instead of tiresome pontificating about “muh principles,” as the conservatives are offering on X/Twitter, LeBlanc tackles this from a purely strategic perspective.
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The major flaw here is: to whom will we look insincere and hypocritical, and why does it matter? We are trying to make the Right stronger, not weaker. The far-Left hates us and the center-Left isn’t easily swayed. The proof of this is that Trump’s brush with death had almost no impact on his campaign’s polling numbers.
We should not forget Independents and the apolitical, either. If they are salvageable, they will understand that we have no choice. It should also be remembered that when the Communists, far-Left, or whatever else you want to call them were originally outsiders during the first half of the twentieth century, they were initially all in favor of an “open society,” free speech, and tolerance. As they cemented their power, they became increasingly intolerant until they eventually morphed into today’s rainbow commissars. The Left has in fact wallowed in hypocrisy for decades, although you will eventually realize that they are in fact very consistent when it comes to doing whatever they need to do to increase their power. Most sensible people are realizing this now, and will understand that we too must pursue our own interests as best we can.
The moderates and the apolitical will thus simply have to learn what we are up against for themselves. If they still cannot realize this after all that has happened, then they are unsalvageable. The opportunity costs of trying to court them are simply not worth the effort.
This in turn leads to a broader issue: namely, how both the Left and the Washington regime get a pass for everything, while the Right is hammered into the dirt for even the slightest infraction. One way or another, this has to end.
Besides, I think a lot of moderates will understand that we have long since exhausted our other possibilities, not to mention our patience. I would have fully agreed with LeBlanc’s position in 2018, and would have been on the fence about it in the spring just before the 2020 Summer of Hate — despite the fact that I had been doxed in 2019. We tried to take the high road, and failed.
I would ask anyone who objects to RWCC to propose a realistic, concrete solution to the Left’s cancel culture. Will the Left abandon a winning strategy because we politely ask them to stop doing it?
Furthermore, long before the rise of what we now call cancel culture, there were decades of soft cancel culture, even if we didn’t yet call it by that name. Long before people began to be fired or harassed simply for saying “It’s okay to be white,” we were denied employment and educational opportunities just for being white as a result of affirmative action. Besides the more recent legacy of hard cancel culture, we are also owed retribution for the decades of its earlier, “softer” counterpart.
LeBlanc then asks if the Left has benefited from their cancel culture given that it is an unpopular tactic and has also radicalized the Right. He likewise points out that the Left is having an internal debate about it, and is even trying to walk it back. This is all too little too late, however. First of all, none of it is sincere. There is also a real possibility of it being a motte-and-bailey tactic whereby the Left’s extreme, indefensible instances of cancel culture will be abandoned, while its more “moderate” usages will continue to be tolerated because the masses will be satisfied at seeing any improvement in the situation. If this is how it plays out, it will only set the stage for an even more extreme wave of it the next time. If the Left were sincere, they would simply ardently disavow all cancel culture.
Furthermore, do people really respect sincerity? Or do they respect strength? Being able to dish out protection to friends or punishment to enemies means a lot more to people than sincerity. How many liberal females hate their fathers and obey the government on some level because their fathers are weak, while the government is strong? People are biologically hardwired to respect power and despise the weak. Those who don’t are an anomaly arising from the unsustainable security, wealth, and comfort of industrialized society, especially that which arose in post-war America. They are thus disproportionately older and will decrease in number as they retire to the great recreational vehicle park in the sky. The youth who will have to deal with the consequences of a decaying civilization are more open to wreaking vengeance. Yes, we can replace them.
LeBlanc also questions whether we can win a tit-for-tat cancel culture war of attrition with the Left. I think we can. A poll I conducted for the Homeland Institute about a year ago found that a charge of “woke” has about 70% of the stopping power of a charge of “racism” in regards to business boycotts. It will be interesting to see if these numbers change when we repeat the poll this year. I suspect that “wokeness” will be even more toxic.
Winning a fight is not about how hard you can hit, but about how hard you can get hit and yet keep moving forward. We have endured years of cancel culture, and it has made us tougher. The Left enjoys dishing out punishment, but is squeamish about taking it. A single punch can change a bully’s behavior, because most bullies are weak. Any objective damage we inflict on the Left will be multiplied by their fragility into significantly higher subjective damage. And in regards to our ability to inflict subjective damage, we may already be as strong or stronger than the Left, simply because they are highly neurotic. All that is needed is an organized mobilization.
A major concern is that some people are being canceled for wishing death upon Donald Trump, which is a far cry from being canceled for being anti-white. But we won’t go from zero to a hundred overnight, especially when the American Right has languished in learned helplessness for decades. We must teach them how to crawl before they can run. Giving the masses a small taste of vengeance may make them eager for more.
I will close with some insights from my friend Christian Secor, who had years of his life canceled due to January 6 — while those such as the Home Depot Lady were smugly pontificating about actions and consequences:
These libtards being canceled are the jury that would find you guilty of thought crime. You’re afraid to give them consequences while they would be happy to send you to prison for disagreeing. We saw this with Trump + every J6er who went to trial. They sent us to PRISON! No mercy
We didn’t start this culture war, but we will win it.
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I am happy with the quality of discussion on Counter-Currents and I hope other people are too.
Yes, discussion is exactly what we need.
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I have yet to discover a better site for the thinking racial nationalist, at least in the Anglophone world. The Editor and his team are to be highly commended.
Comperatore is a pertinent example of leftist hatred. He had some unsavory opinions about Gazans shared on X, which many leftists believe justifies him being killed by their assassin. If not deserving of death, they garner no sympathy. So yes, we should cancel anyone who is anti-white. While we want them to be silent, they want us dead. Time to grow up.
He also illustrates how misguided red blooded conservative Americans are about Zionism. His pro-Isreali beliefs didn’t shield him from attacks, both physical and ideological.
White people, reject Zionism and leftism.
Both right and left are working for our enemies in different ways. In different seasons, each in its turn is utilized to accomplish different purposes of theirs. Turn! Turn! Turn! And both sides are unified in hating us!
Here’s the gen on that noble Corey as regards the woes of Gazans and Japanese:
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/corey-comperatore-donald-trump-rally-shooting-victim-tweets-gaza-ukraine-controversy-2567399-2024-07-16
This is on India Today.
I’m an Isolationist and intensely dislike that the USA is sending billions of dollars to Ukraine and to Israel to promote wars. It should be stopped and probably would be if it were not for an alien elite in control of our government.
That being said, I don’t understand all the Dissident Right simping for Gaza. This is not our fight. Has the White Nationalist movement gone too far Left?
We can debate how best to stop Zionism, but it looks to me like they are in control of their Middle East wars regardless. Our own countries are more important to fight for, and Gaza is a useless distraction in my opinion. Maybe it appeals to Leftist Zoomers who might want to buy subscriptions to edgy-dissent podcasts or something, I don’t know.
Also, as a historian, I don’t understand the endless WN simping for Imperial Japan getting their fingers burnt both with conventional bombing and nukes, plus a starvation blockade AFTER THEY had attacked Pearl Harbor. That is pretty much how war works.
FDR did not have clean hands, but he wasn’t going to actually start a shooting war with Japan. And they treated our PoWs poorly in spite of signing the Geneva Convention. They and their God-Emperor were treated reasonably decently after their surrender, however.
Unlike the Germans, the Japs richly wanted war with the USA and they basically treated all White people in their co-prosperity sphere like the Communists did, i.e., as both class and racial enemies. Not every White nurse or plantation agronomist in Asia was a European imperialist deserving impalement with a bamboo spear by the natives at Japanese direction.
Also, I have seen some of the recent Gaza War protestors, many of whom were arrested for illegally camping at the University in solidarity with the Palestinians because they bees Brown people. Although I have no sympathy with the Israelis, these protestors looked the same as the BLM and Antifa people from the Summer of Floyd to me. Some commissars were wearing Israeli flags and patrolling to keep the anti-Jew “Genocide” messaging down, but otherwise basically just the same dumb Commies. They even had the same demands as before ─ defunding the police, etc.
Mr. Comperatore, who was collateral damage for the Trump assassination attempt, was a White salt-of-the-Earth kind of guy who was killed merely for attending a rally ─ a rally almost exclusively of White people. Yet some White people have celebrated his fate.
I don’t care if Mr. Comperatore was a dumb Conservative or was not down with the Leftist and the Alt-Right’s fetishization of muh Brown Palestinians. I think that is despicable. Even worse when it comes from Whites.
We should rally against any calumniation against Mr. Comperatore for being White and for attending a Trump rally. You or I may or may not have different views than he does about the Gaza War, Trump, or going to church on Sunday. But Corey Comperatore and his family did nothing wrong.
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Correct, Comperatore did nothing wrong. We still must remove Zionism and people sympathetic to that ideology from out country so salt of the earth people don’t get exploited
I read a lot about the Japanese in the prison camps. They would execute people in artistic ways.(I redacted a graphic description here for decency.) Among other things. Now we have the atrocities in Gaza. There seems to be some trend that groups with high IQ (>107) display unusual cruelty, unfortunately. The unabomber said that all high IQ people have a cruel streak. Why would you guys think that is?
I doubt the intelligent have a monopoly on cruelty. There are plenty of idiots in prison who’ve committed heinous crimes.
True, random crimes, but I refer to artistic, group sanctioned activities. There’s a distinction. In terms of episodic crime, Japanese are probably the most law abiding on the planet, literally.
Eventually, the pro-White movement will have to genuinely transcend the Left/Right spectrum. But every ‘movement’ undergoes development as it processes through history and this time – our time -requires that sometimes the power we have to harm is wielded against White persons we might not harm in a different phase of the revolution. I wish working class Whites were universally ‘with’ us, but that’s obviously not the case. Hence, this situation with the working-class White woman at Home Depot puts White Nationalists in the unfortunate position of doing harm to a White person in the name of something other than racial politics. I don’t like this but I don’t see a way around it.
I think it’s good that C-C is holding a substantive dialog around tactics in this matter.
I haven’t seen any reporting regarding whether Home Depot Hater Meemaw has apologized or not. That, to me, would tell us whether our target was maximally or minimally justified. If Home Depot Hater Meemaw apologized and recanted, I’d say she was minimally-justified target and ought to be counted as ‘collateral damage’. If she does not, she’s an enemy combatant.
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After the left abandoned the working class, it’s pretty much up to us to take up their cause. Even so, there are individual members of the working class who aren’t on board with the program; that’s just sort of how it is. The leftists called it “false consciousness” when actual workers and farmers didn’t cotton to pinko bullcorn. On the other hand, when working people support globalism which harms the working class, we call these lost souls NPCs.
As for Book Depository Meemaw, she no doubt has heard endlessly from the MSM that Trump is the next Hitler. We all know that he isn’t even the next Barry Goldwater, though.
Who’s leading the charge here against regular working class Whites, under the auspices of “conservatism”? HDHM appears to have done nothing other than exercise her 1st Amendment right. Has Donald Trump now been annointed king and rendered off limits to being questioned or criticized?
Libs of tiktok was founded by Chaya Raichik, an Orthodox Jew. Meanwhile, Mark Zuckerberg is suddenly revealed to be a lot more “conservative” than anyone thought. It reminds me of another “conservative”, James Howard Kuntsler, who, while always complaining about liberals, also never fails to throw in a blood libel against the danger White people pose to someday … for no reason at all … become “Corn-pone Nazis”.
My thinking is that our system of governance by media is lining up behind Trump for a reason. They have big plans. Because it has been popping up here and there lately, one place I think we may be being shepherded by this kosher brand of “conservatism” is gun control.
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/day-has-finally-come-instagram-censors-team-usa-rifle-shooter-ahead-paris-paralympics
It seems those who balk at “cancel culture” being turned against the left are missing two points.
First, any mention or discussion, even in just, of an *ss*ssin*ting a President or presidential candidate was, until Donald Trump, something any sane person did not do unless he wanted a visit from secret service of other feds, as well as get placed on certain lists. Whether such rhetoric crosses the line of Brandenburg v Ohio into illegality depends on the particulars, but it is incredibly stupid just in terms of pragmatics. That changed with Trump, as seen with Depp, Madonna, Griffen, and many thousands of others. Since past Saturday, this looking the other way can no longer be ignored, and I see no why that should be taken advantage and used to our advantage. Beyond that, the utterances in question are a fundamentally different kind than the sort of cancel culture the left has luxuriated in, with for example the Amy Cooper fiasco in Central Park.
The other thing people are overlooking is that most Americans REALLY do not like this. Given that this country was founded on violent revolution, I am not sure I share such moral outrage categorically. If, should demographics gets worse, there is at some point in the future a popular black candidate who engaged in the sort of rhetoric advocating white genocide we see in South Africa, I will not entertain the lie that democracy needs to be respected no matter what. Be that as it may, most Americans really do not like what happened on the 13th, and what I mean by that statement is they do not like that the attempt was made, and they do not like those who express sentiments of wishful thinking or admiration. There is no reason in the world why those against the left should not capitalize on that moral outrage. Know that the left would do so, but with much more passion and intensity than our observant Jewish friend libsoftiktok and her adherents are doing.
You make an excellent point that threatening the President is effectively against the law but has been forgotten somehow with attacks against Trump.
We need to hold them to that standard somehow.
A Fire Chief may or may not be choosing our battles wisely. I doubt that the Libtard lady at Home Depot is the best battle, however. And no, even if she is White, I have zero sympathy for her unless she were to make a convincing apology. I would not extend that concession to a Darkie.
I think the Bidenistas were very clever to try to distance themselves from the Assassination attempt in general terms, even though their base is probably thrilled about the attempt if not the outcome.
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“I doubt that the Libtard lady at Home Depot is the best battle, however.”
We don’t know what the exact details are with this particular individual. It may be tempting to make suppositions regarding her situation and take a softer perspective – an ordinary woman doing a very ordinary job, trying to pay her way in life; somebody’s mum who’s perhaps going along with the prevailing perspective of family, friends and neighbours because she likes to be liked and somewhat foolishly made a social media posting either calling for, or endorsing the assassination of Donald Trump; the woman in question an unfortunate easy target and low-hanging fruit.
On the other hand she may well be some kind of hard-left wannabe social commentator and try-hard influencer who won’t shut up regardless of the social situations she finds herself in; boring her co-workers to death by constantly inflicting her viewpoints upon them to the point where they are just waiting for the slightest opportunity to get rid of her even though her job is not one of social-influencing significance where certain levels of personal and social conduct are required. For example professions of social care and public safety: Medicine and health; child care; education; law enforcement and other first responders such as firefighters and ambulance crews, etc. Other social influencing professions where a certain level of social discretion and the ability to “read” people is required: The military; the legal profession; ostensibly the media and entertainments industry, along with higher-level sales, marketing and advertising.
That she was sacked from the type of relatively minimal social risk job she was doing seems to back up the latter suggestion and if so, the moral of the story is you go to work to earn a living so that you can pay your way and your reliance on other people is minimised. Most people just want an easy life. They don’t want to be “hot gospeled” to by some aspirant work canteen preacher even if they happen to understand and perhaps share at least some of the expressed sentiments.
Another question worthy of consideration is what was her employment history like? Did she deliberately choose to work at an establishment like Home Depot in the capacity that she did because she thought she could get away with saying and perhaps also doing things that would get her sacked from a great many other jobs?
I don’t think there is any job among ‘mixed company’ that doesn’t involve risk.
Don’t take your politics to work.
I agree with this well stated position. I would like to underscore the importance of being willing to stand and fight. I think many of our women loathe us because we show weakness. I think our enemies are emboldened because they push against air onto ground abandoned by fleeing.
Now some of that is due to being unprotected by the government. Nonetheless, we took this as a majority and it is time to stop.
I would support the argument by saying that we must also cancel because of the nature of the followers. How many people are anti-White diversity supporters because it is the path of least resistence. “My school teacher wife is anti-White and my company is too so I am going to argue for stopping using the word master in our profession.” That is not an example. That is a real guy I know. He needs us to impose consequences for being a wimp. His wife needs to feel turned on by having him tell her no or divorce her for being a race traitor. “Honey. I am white man. I can’t get promoted anymore. I think it is time to drop this anti-White B.S. You are working against me and thus working against your interests too. If you can’t change, I can serve you papers and you can support yourself on a teacher’s salary while you act against my interest.”
I digress. The point is, the people in the middle are not Normies. We on the Right are normal. We are on the Right because we are intellectually and spiritually healthy and normal. I think we should call them the mildly ill, the critically ill and the terminally ill. There is nothing normal about hating yourself, hating your own kind and aiding and abetting the genocide of your own people.
We need to push forward on the front into a situation where we set the terms and the mildly to critically ill at least go neutral and eventually follow because we are willing and able to wield power. Fire up the cancel cannons. This is war and you can’t win if you don’t utilize the rules, (or lack thereof), of engagement.
Today it is cancellation because you cheer for a person to die. Tomorrow it is cancellation and eventually removal because you want to subjugate and eliminate us and our people.
Mars Exulti!
Serve her papers and she will likely get the house, the kids, and crippling child support payments. She may then accuse him of threatening her and get a court order keeping him away from his children. He could wind up living in a studio apartment on ramen noodles.
These things aren’t so easy anymore.
Even the leftists being “cancelled” won’t face any real longterm problems, they’ll get a new job straight away. When a “racist” gets cancelled it’s very different, they legitimately risk having their entire life destroyed by one accusation. Just look at Andrew Anglin making a joke about Heather Hayer and he was banned off of most the Internet.
My husband says that you don’t change anything by waiting. It’s best to do something and then correct course as you find out more information.
I haven’t heard a lot of concrete proposals for action yet, although I am listening.
Some argue that the J6 protestors were unfairly prosecuted, and I would agree. But they willingly broke into the Capitol building and offered themselves up for prosecution.
That is exactly how you do NOT protest, especially in a country where freedom-of-speech is the black-letter law, and so is freedom of assembly to “redress grievances” ─ which is what happened at J6 until some idiots broke into and then entered the building.
Crossing such legal lines only accords the enemy an excuse to throw the book at you with hyperbolic prosecution, which is exactly what happened. Of course it is vile and not fair, but what can realistically be done about that until we are in power?
Hey, I’d like (in Minecraft and with full due-process) to toss a Molotov cocktail into the barn of every race-mixer and Commie firm in the neighborhood ─ but I know that this ain’t gonna work for some reason. That doesn’t mean that we should let the Left get away with it either, of course.
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Hi Scott 🙂
Neither I nor my husband are advocating for violence or anything illegal. But it is important to do something within the bounds of the law, for, as David Zsutty writes, people respect strength more than sincerity. Arminius Maximus makes a good point as well, that women in particular loathe weakness. Decrying RWCC is a statist position. Maybe it is the correct long-term strategic option; I don’t know, but that is doubtful since doing nothing hasn’t gotten us very far in the past.
I don’t really have a dog in the fight, to be honest. Maybe because I am female, I would prefer us not to vocally defend the rights of our enemies. It screams weakness.
I say we might be overthinking all this.
At the present, Libs of TikTok is sticking it to people for approving political violence. This includes Book Depository Meemaw and other targets more deserving than her. Will the efforts be worthwhile? Maybe, maybe not. If it proves to be a golden opportunity, then others can follow their work.
Meanwhile, we don’t have to do the same things. We can be off doing other things, like our usual specialties. We’re not bound to any one strategy – this is a good thing, since putting all our eggs into one basket would be far too risky. Whatever works, let’s do it.
Hamburger Today: July 19, 2024 Eventually, the pro-White movement will have to genuinely transcend the Left/Right spectrum.
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I must sound like a broken record to some here at C-C, constantly promoting the teachings of Dr. William Pierce, but it is those sound teachings that our people most desperately need.
In his classic 1976 speech “Our Cause” at nationalvanguard.org he explained that the pro-White movement that he had founded was neither right-wing nor left-wing but racial and separatist — something neither of those so-called wings are. In fact, both the right and the left oppose the pro-White separatist movement, embodied in the National Alliance organization that Dr. Pierce founded 50 years ago.
Pierce transcended the Left/Right spectrum by taking a little from each that benefits our race and rejecting the rest from that phony fight.
I suppose I can be called a “white nationalist” because I place halting white genocide and taking the white side (which these days, especially, is also always the right – and Right – side) above other considerations. But white preservationist and white racial justice issues are not the only issues, or even the most common ones, being taken up by legislatures. On issues where race doesn’t come into it, I’m generally conservative (as are most, though far from all, white nationalists).
Moreover, the Left today is increasingly defined by its foundational commitments to cultural antiwhiteness and government-engineered white race replacement. Class envy has radically declined in emphasis. The (non-racial) “Right” can be lousy on prowhite issues, too, but they are never as bad as the Left, nor is antiwhiteness foundational to today’s Right. I therefore think it’s false to imply that prowhites are “neither Left nor Right”. Granted that terms like “Left” and “Right” are relative and evolving, within today’s definitional parameters, we are on the Right (and undeniably, that is where the self-identified Left places us).
Danny buddy think that I near Franco’s firing squads lost any sleep after the leftist spent the better part of two years terrifying everyone murdering nuns sexually assaulting members of the clergy disrespecting churches burning down churches no it’s like the man who shot Chelsea esque I feel no regrets
Mr. Zsutty wrote:
“I would ask anyone who objects to RWCC to propose a realistic, concrete solution to the Left’s cancel culture. Will the Left abandon a winning strategy because we politely ask them to stop doing it?”
I think that is a bit of a straw man. I don’t object to RWCC for any kind of muh principles ─ although the man with the Truth on his side need not resort to falsehoods and dirty tricks for any lack of arguments.
Executing a RWCC strategy, however, would actually need to be doable somehow ─ and I am not seeing much concrete foundations for that idea.
I too am outraged that White people are being killed by Leftists at Trump rallies, but I am not sure how much can be done with this as it will peter out soon as the establishment walks it back. The Left will surely overplay their hand again, however.
But if we were really at war, we would actually be shooting. We would be digging foxholes. We would have angry elites and angry frontiersmen ─ led by generals like Washington, or maybe forcibly-retired John Birchers or racists ─ and the mustering of the host would come naturally. All or nothing. Do or die.
We don’t have anything close.
Yes, we are in a struggle for our racial existence ─ but it does not require much brains to predict what would happen immediately if we formed a militia to go set some Leftists straight.
Some of our younger people have never fired a gun, and certainly have never dug a slit-trench in the dark. Could they be trusted to guard a Post Office in the night?
I am all ears to serious proposals about how White Nationalists can manly-man fight the enemy.
But so far our side cannot even organize a public rally without it turning into a disaster.
This question may be unfair to the more intelligent White Nationalists, but how was the 1984 “cancellation” of a (very) obnoxious Jewish radio host not an expression of RWCC?
Explain why or why not.
I concluded then, that maybe some of the more activist elements of our fellow-travellers were not in fact the smartest tools in the shed. Whether they were decent Whites or not, is another matter.
We need to have some serious dialog about where Rockwell left off with his unfinished “Legal, Psychological and Political Warfare.” This is exactly the dilemma that we face ─ and it was written almost sixty years ago.
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Once you can cancel, you are already in power. It’s like saying we should ban leftist books from libraries. No politician wants to normalize political assassination, so of course, they are all on the same page on this issue, for obvious reasons.
I fundamentally disagree with this strategy. The internet needs to be a place to express oneself. The concept of cancel is a completely top-down faake paradigm. No one in the real world cares about rude comments on the internet. Powerful people at ADL type organizations pressure HR dpts. and social media companies to cancel people. Unless the Right or the real Left get such organizations, cancel culture will only go one way. Back in the 1960s when we lived in a normal country, the Left embraced free speech as a way to make its voice heard. This was a successful strategy.
Though the Anglo society that created free speech is faltering, save an NGO empire, that’s all we have.
Excellent points. 🙂
This was as close to perfect as it gets, absolutely elegant. I love the way you write and think, David.
I have no idea why the minute we show the slightest iota of power some people are so excited to rebuke it. As referenced above, that sort of weakness repulses me. I am sick to death of being on the pointy end of the stick.
I go everyday with the idea:
Go with what works given your:
Age
Health
Where you live, hang out, work (don’t needlessly mess up your employment $)
As in pretty much all things that matter, American Conservatives don’t do things that work.
GL Rockwell wrote about this 100% accurately in ~ 1966 “50 Years of failure”. It’s now been over 100 years of failure.
American sand box conservatism, trying to sell economic conservatism, John Burch “The Constitution, less government, more personal responsibility”, “We’re not racists”, Democrats were the real bad guy White racists, that doesn’t work.
Who remotely on our side in the world is winning or at least being competitive?
Not Libertarian, race denying, Constitutionalists, anything goes corporate capitalism. Not specific Christian church parties, but one has to recognize historic church affiliations like Orthodox Christianity in Greece and Russia.
Vitor Orban Hungary
Poland Law and Justice
Swiss People’s Party
Also, American Whites seem to go for celebrity ex actors, rock musicians (kid rock), fake wrestlers Jessie Ventura ( I hear there is one in or around Knoxville TN) or course ex actors Ronald Reagan, Clint Eastwood, Arnold and Donald Trump “You’re Fired”.
American voters never ever go for old and out of it policy wonks.
Bitching and moaning about impersonal institutions like “The Liberal media”, “The bankers”, “The globalists” or even the Jooooooooooooz. That doesn’t work, it’s give us now over 100 years of failure.
I highly recommend people here read, study Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”. We are radicals. RFR tactics works.
In contrast American Right wing Conservative tactics (stockpiling guns that are never used), running 3rd party Presidential candidates that lose ~ 99.7 % (Ron and Rand Paul), Christian Religious Right Pro Life 100% candidates. Those tactics don’t work.
Let’s take these months in what might be the final Presidential election that is contested to discuss tactics and more importantly propaganda for the separation movements that have to come next.
Everyone with a brain from Jared Taylor to H Covington has admitted that we can’t save all of the USA or North America or not so merry old England.
I agree with you, but ‘RFR tactics’ were always a lie. What’s not obvious from Alinsky’s ‘rules’ is the massive institutional support Alinsky and his fellow jewish (and negro) radicals had from the rest of the ‘jewish community’ (however obscured).
Left-wing street theater (including mass protests) were never effective. They were just ‘cover’ for institutional actors who operated less openly. The evidence for this is the totally ignored mass protests against nuclear power and nuclear weapons in the 1980s. The same with the continuing protests against paramilitary interventions in San Salvador and Nicaragua.
Find what your enemies fear and investigate whether implementing it would distract them from implementing something more substantive, something they cannot even understand.
I believe the way forward for Whites is the subtle separatism of nullification and currency independence by individual states (leading to independent economies based on local currencies and regionalized interstate trade).
The politically distracted ‘left’ and ‘right’ are simply hand-puppets for institutional actors (largely jewish at this point) for whom North American Whites are an expendable asset.
Even Lenin had bankers.
Agree. Creating the impression that the institutional actors are “responding to the will of the people.”
A lot of rfr tactics rely on a sympathetic system. A good demonstration in recent memory might be the permissiveness of the system to the blm rioters contrasted with the draconian force applied against the university Gaza protests.
”Power is power.”
Cerce Lannister
There is a real psychological moment opening up akin to that which ensued following 9/11 which the Dissident Right can exploit if things are thought through.
A major complaint from normies is that mainstream conservatives, while continually drumming on about the threat from the Left, never provide any kind of plan of action other than to attend book signing soirees or paying big bucks to go on carnival cruises. What Right-wing cancel culture (RWCC) can do is provide a tactic which can turn this situation around.
The first advantage to RWCC is that it gives the Dissident Right the initiative (vital for info ops) while throwing the Left on the defensive. (Observation: the Left can dish it out but cannot take it. Look at the hysterics over the relatively innocuous “It’s OK To Be White” campaign.)
The second advantage – and this is critical – is that RWCC is a way to mobilize the normies who want to do something. And there are millions of Americans who want to get active, especially in the wake of the recent attempt on Donald Trump at one of his campaign rallies. (One sign of this: the numerous Trump banner drops across the USA.)
The Dissident Right can become the cadre for a RWCC campaign (call it, what, CancelGate?). The internet and social media can be utilized to provide a form of dispersed leadership, and for the dissemination of campaign memes. Lessons can be learned and applied from GamerGate. Make it fun!
The Left terminates the employment of someone on the Right? RWCC gets a blue haired HR commissar fired. The Left gets a bank to close the financial account of a rightwing activist? RWCC pressures social media companies to terminate the accounts of two globalist NGO minions. The Left removes a statue of a great American? RWCC pressures local governments to take down murals of three career criminals or convicted terrorists beatified by the left.
Here is the critical thing: RWCC can provide an end to the info war on terms favorable to the Dissident Right.
The Dissident Right declares that it will halt RWCC if (and only if!) the Left terminates its own cancel actions. Call it a truce in the info war. And once the Dissident Right can operate freely and in the open, it will be on a path to victory given the correctness of its ideas. What will make this work is those millions of normies out there who are fed up with leftwing cancel culture and who are to be potentially won over to the Dissident Right.
Lesson from Burnham’s The Machiavellians: power is only countered by opposing power.
No. There’s no point in a ‘truce’. We don’t have a ‘society’ with our enemies, we have a battleground. If they’re really not an ‘enemy’ then it wouldn’t be necessary to engage in world-view warfare with them. But we do. So that should tell you all you need to know about anything like a ‘truce’.
A “truce” is a tactic to open the way to the second phase of the campaign, which is pushing Dissident Right ideas across the virtual front and into the realworld. Of course, once the Dissident Right has gained the upper hand online, might as well continue RWCC until full victory – as noted.
The main shortfall for the Dissident Right is in the lack of Big IT. The other side currently controls most of the information infrastructure. This is changing as alternative social media comes into play, and with the support of Elon Musk for a more-or-less open “X”. But at this particular historical point, the Left still has the upper hand. So the Dissident Right has to play the role of the upstart information insurgent and adjust tactics accordingly.
(Incidentally, if the Dissident Right is going to commence such a campaign, it needs an operational name. CancelGate? CounterCancel? CultureGate? BlueHairStop? SchmittGate?)
I’d go further and say that the very notion of a truce is overthinking things. These are agreements between two organized parties with top-down command structures, capable of commanding their subordinates to stand down. The situation obviously doesn’t apply to the culture war, in which no single individual is calling the shots on either side. The most we can do is tell our readership why something is or isn’t a good tactic.
To quote Sam Hyde, “When we win, do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it’s funny.”
James Kirkpatrick wrote on Xitter:
There’s no scenario where someone takes a shot at Obama, kills a bystander, and progressives defend those who mock the victims and wish the shooter didn’t miss on the grounds of “principle”.
That is all there is to say, and Travis is wrong about this one.
Right, but the Home Depot bag lady has done nothing wrong other than bad taste and being reflexively anti-White. She seems to have stayed in line with her First Amendment rights, which would be wrong to imperil because free-speech is never about what you or I like. Instead it protects what we don’t like because we have strident but better arguments and even the Truth on our side.
Home Depot Human Resources is an example of “corporate woke” that will flip the script on us faster than you can say Jackie Robinson.
I agree that the Left does not play fair. Hitler explained how they were the masters of the Big Lie a century ago. I agree also that we should not let them get away with it. This is not advocacy for doing nothing.
Now, the case of the anti-White Fire Chief may be entirely different. I would support a rally against anti-Whiteness displayed by public officials. But we have to face the facts that we do not have the power to “cancel” anybody. If we did, the dilemma would not be taking place at all.
At the present time, if we organized a rally against some Commie Fire Chief, we would be lucky ourselves not only to keep our bourgeois jobs but even to stay out of jail. We don’t at this time even have the ability to organize a clown show. Don’t blame me for stating the obvious.
No disrepect to Jason Kessler who bravely honored the statue of the venerable General Robert E. Lee at Chalottesville, but this was pretty obvious there, and even more so at J6.
I am not advocating for “doing nothing” nor for following a shop-worn century of Conservative failure. Please don’t straw-man me.
But I would argue that impotently attempting to ─ as somebody else put it, ban the books at the Library that we don’t like ─ is exactly the anti-personnel mine lain by the enemy that we do NOT want to step upon.
We can argue against Drag Queen Story Hour because it is inappropriate and immodest, and because the guy in a dress wanting to read stuff to your kids is a registered pervert that should not have access to minors ─ but we need to be very cautious of making it an argument against freedom-of-speech.
That follows the enemy lure into the battleground where they have all the advantages. It is not fair, but we have to find a smarter way to fight the insurgency.
What I see about this call for RWCC is a huge reg flag where people like George Lincoln Rockwell long ago marked out the mine field for our benefit.
Hamburger Today makes the excellent point that Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals” is bullshït.
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Scott: July 22, 2024 at 1:21 am [T]he Home Depot bag lady has done nothing wrong other than bad taste and being reflexively anti-White… Home Depot Human Resources is an example of “corporate woke” that will flip the script on us…
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I’m not familiar with the bag lady story, but on principle I’ve never even once darkened the doorway of a Home Depot for no other reason than it was founded by Zionist Jews and is the largest seller of Israeli products in the U.S. That’s where I draw the line when I need building material.
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Lord Shang: July 22, 2024 I suppose I can be called a “white [sic] nationalist” because I place halting white [sic] genocide and taking the white [sic] side (which these days, especially, is also always the right – and Right – side)
But white [sic] preservationist and white [sic] racial justice issues are not the only issues, or even the most common ones, being taken up by legislatures…
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Call yourself whatever you want, Lord, but forget legislatures. What have any of them done for Whites lately?
Can you name even one legislator, state or national, who agrees with serious White preservationists that we must withdraw our consent to be governed by multiracial, Jew-controlled legislatures and separate ourselves from the failed multiracial experiment? Surely you must be able to name just one earnest right-wing white nationalist legislator with a backbone, with the moral courage to stand and represent White preservation.
You who characterize yourselves as right-wingers or in the big tent of “White nationalism (that includes idiots like non-White Fuentes who will exterminate non-Christians when his crew of dipshits takes power),” exemplified by your highlighted statement above, do not believe in the absolute primacy of preservation of the White race. You as much as admit that.
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The (non-racial) “Right” can be lousy on prowhite issues…
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Like I said.
Taking the high hasn’t been working. It also does not inspire normies.
Following the rules while the other side doesn’t, gives them the advantages. Action inspires. We need to go on the attack. I see nothing wrong with making sweeping accusations as they do even if untrue.
I can’t speak for Travis, but I don’t think this is about “taking the high ground” or otherwise.
War is usually about WINNING first and then later calling it the High Ground in the sagas.
All I am saying is that we should not step on mines lain by the enemy, and that we should not be throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
I appreciate this discussion of tactics. That is exactly what we have needed for far too long.
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Thanks to both writers for tacking this important topic. I’ve sat on both sides at one time or the other. Nowadays I don’t think there should be an all out embracing of cancel culture, however I do think it ought be used strategically. In every culture war there are constantly new fronts and new tactics. When cyberterrorism and cyberwar became viable attacks, every sensible government around the world invested in preparing for it. Like it or not, cancel culture has been a deadly weapon used by the left and there is no pretending they are going to stop. Thus there ought be some “reminders” that the street runs both ways. Similarly, awareness that the prestige media is dominated by the left has led to growth of the intellectual Right (I’ll leave out the ‘dark’ some like to include, I’d like to think I’m one of the good guys).
At the same time, some reject cancel culture because they want the freedom to be callously obnoxious and hostile all the time (though Mr. LeBl. did not traffic in those waters). I think simple messages get the most traction. White identity. No shame. No WW2 salutes either. Stop kvetching about the jews, homos, dykes, normies. If there’s a broad acceptance of white identity and you’re still pissed about all the other groups, we’ll revisit.
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