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Roseanne Was Right

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Recently, one of the few network TV shows to promote a vaguely Right-of-center politics was taken off the air. The show was cut within hours of its lead actor sending out a tweet about senior Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett (“vj”). 

It’s worth asking even the most racially unaware audience exactly why comparing the appearance of blacks to gorillas draws such ire.

And it’s worth following that question up with this one: if I compared the appearance of blacks to frogs, or to iguanas, or to elephants, would there be the same hostile reaction?

The obvious answer is: Of course not. Because blacks don’t look like frogs. They don’t look like iguanas. And they don’t look like elephants.

The claim would simply be too absurd to generate offense — and the reaction would be more like “what the hell is this guy talking about?” than “HOW DARE HE!!!” We generally experience more confusion than outrage when people make jokes or attempt to insult us with comparisons that simply aren’t apt or applicable at all.

In high school, if someone had made a “your momma’s so fat” joke when my mother was a triathlon-running bodybuilder who could have easily beat the whole lot of them up, it would have had no effect besides making the kid throwing the insult look like an idiot.

On the other hand, if she actually was obese and I was insecure about this and afraid she was going to die of a heart attack, I might have gotten angry enough to punch him in the face.

Blacks do visually resemble gorillas. It couldn’t be more obvious that the comparison hits a nerve because it’s true. All the amount of outrage directed at Roseanne indicates is how insecure people are over the fact that it’s true—that their mother actually is, in fact, obese.

How true is it that blacks visually resemble gorillas?

It’s so true that when the best artificial intelligence researchers at Google — one of the most diverse companies in the entire United States, hardly some bastion of white corporate power — designed a machine learning algorithm that works by inputting hundreds and thousands of example photographs until it “learns” how to recognize different objects, it began systematically misclassifying black people as gorillas. All by itself—with no human help whatsoever.

To be clear: this has quite literally never happened with any other specific combination of human race and animal. We have never had a machine learning algorithm begin systematically misidentifying black people as panthers, or Hispanics as cockroaches, or white people as turnips. The one and only example of systematic misclassification of a specific race and a specific animal by an AI that has ever occurred in all of history is the misclassification of blacks with gorillas.

And we can easily pinpoint the specific features that blacks and gorillas tend to share on common (or more specifically, the direction in which they both deviate compared to other races of man).

For one example: wider nostrils.

We know that the width of the nostril cavity is an evolutionary adaptation to the heat and humidity of the environment. In cold and dry environments, humans evolved narrow nasal passages to increase the moisture and warmth of incoming air. In hot and humid environments, the opposite happens. Blacks and gorillas both have wider nostrils as an evolutionary adaptation to the hot and humid temperatures of jungle climates (like Africa’s).

For another, the jaw tends to protrude rather significantly past the rest of the skull. And forensic scientists routinely use this knowledge in court to determine the ethnicity of deceased subjects from the structure of their skulls alone.


Do Asian men, for example, characteristically share either of these major traits in common with apes?

Obviously not.

Of course, all this is going farther than Roseanne herself ever did, given that she never compared all black people to gorillas in the first place. She compared a specific person — who for the record is half black and half Persian — to a specific (and quite notably super-intelligent ) ape creature played by Helena Bonham Carter in a specific movie.​​

​If you don’t think there actually is similarity here, you’re just lying to yourself, and it’s that simple. There most certainly is as much resemblance here as there is between Donald Trump and a Cheeto.

The whole issue may seem trivial. After all, nothing of any direct meaningful consequence hinges on whether we can admit that the features of blacks tend to resemble those of gorillas. And white people are simply good-natured—most have little desire to keep joking about things that keep making other people upset. In the minds of most of us, the validity of that upset tends to come secondary to the fact that we just don’t want to be the kinds of people who laugh at others’ misfortune.

Furthermore, Roseanne herself has chalked the tweet up to Ambien use and asked her fans not to defend her.

Well, screw it—I’ll defend what I think is right and what I think is true whether I’m given permission to or not. Roseanne should never have apologized. What she should have done is pointed out that no living black person anywhere was harmed in the making of this tweet, and brought the subject back to its original context by asking why everyone is more concerned about this tripe than they are about the state secrets that were being discussed in the discussion where her comment was made.

If there is any reason Roseanne doesn’t deserve our sympathy, it’s for caving under pressure to hypocritical enemies who are more than happy to compare white people they dislike to apes all day and say “fuck you” to anyone who finds it offensive. Wanda Sykes has done it, Jimmy Kimmel has done it, The Huffington Post has done it, and on and on the list goes.

Does this comparison really look more compelling to you than the ones posted earlier in this article? If you’re capable of being even slightly honest with yourself at all, you’re going to say “No.”

And in fact, this entire debate is really about whether you are capable of being honest with yourself. We know this, as a matter of fact, thanks to scienceResearch from 2008 by the psychologist Phillip Atiba Goff has shown that every group of Americans—whether they’re white or not, whether they’re liberal or conservative, and from the most authoritarian to the most egalitarian—hold an unconscious association between black people and apes. And that’s for the very plain and simple reason that the photographs above really do highlight cranial similarities between them—they really do in fact share a few visual traits in common.

The leading counter-argument, and defense of the hypocritical double standard whereby pundit after pundit comparing white politicians they dislike to apes is just fine and dandy, will of course be that comparing black people to apes has a uniquely “dark history” (as the Huffington Post argues here). The response to this argument is threefold.

1. No black person alive has personally experienced this “dark history.” Ask any black person in the United States who found this joke offensive to actually provide concrete details of that history, and they will not be able to do it.  So they quite literally cannot even lay claim to being triggered by the comparison. No, the reason people call for blood when this comparison is made is not, as the Huffington Post argues, because there was a rape trial taking place in 1935 after the movie King Kong was released in 1933. Note, furthermore, that this is the best that the Huffington Post can do when asked to substantiate the details of that long and sordid history. After using this example, they move on and reference the fact that AIDS originated from blood to blood contact between a human and monkey in Africa. Well, all available evidence suggests that it really did—wishful conspiracy theories about AIDS being part of a government program to kill black people aside. What else have you got?

2. This is literally the “Hitler was a vegetarian” argument. Even if we grant that some bad people did notice the similarity of blacks to gorillas in the past, that doesn’t make it any less true—any more than the fact that Hitler was a vegetarian means that all vegetarians are evil Nazis today. “You can’t notice this because some bad people noticed it in the past” is an exactly identical argument to “You can’t be a vegetarian in 2018 because Hitler was a vegetarian in 1933.” And it’s ridiculous in both cases.

3. Even granting it were true that comparing blacks to apes has a long history—and if the Huffington Post article is the best the Left can do, it really is dubious—it would only raise the question: why blacks and apes in particular? Why not blacks and panthers? Why not white people and mayonnaise? Why not Hispanics and iguanas? The only conceivable answer would be that people have noticed that it actually is in fact true for a really long time.

Because it is. So the only thing that adding to the story of how long people have been noticing it does is prove how obviously true my point here really is.

There couldn’t be a more obvious demonstration of the fact that political correctness is a war on white people daring to notice what’s right in front of our faces. The one and only real difference between comparing whites and blacks to apes is that blacks actually do resemble them and whites do not (I again refer you to Bill Maher’s Trump/orangutan comparison above, and my photos selected off the front page of Google Images: which actually look more alike?).

And the real reason it’s socially acceptable to compare white people to apes and not blacks is because black emotions are treated as if they were sacrosanct, while white emotions aren’t. Nevermind that Valerie Jarrett really does literally have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.Nevermind that she really was a key player in the cover-up of the Fast and Furious scandal (when Attorney General Eric Holder lied to Congress about smuggling guns into Mexico so that they could be traced to drug cartels) Nevermind her involvement in real estate fraud. Those things don’t upset black peoples’ delicate feelings—so they aren’t the center of mass controversy and outrage. A one-off 2am tweet comparing a single individual to a single actor in a movie dominates the outrage culture of our airwaves instead.

As trivial as this particular case may seem, if we aren’t allowed to notice the trivial things, then we won’t be allowed to notice the important ones either—and that’s exactly what we see happening now across the entire Western world. The life-damaging punishment awaiting any white person who dares admit that they can see a visual similarity between even one black person and simian animal is part and parcel of the systematic gaslighting used to break down the white psyche, preventing us from trusting our own minds and senses. Resisting this programming requires balking against it when it’s used in a trivial case just as much as when it’s employed in more complex matters in academia. If they can get you to apologize for seeing what’s in front of you in trivial matters, they’ll be that much more ready to demand you do the same when we come to the things that actually matter. Shame on Roseanne Barr for handing our enemies that victory—but let’s not follow her cowering advice that we do the same.


  1. Franklin Ryckaert
    Posted May 30, 2018 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

    Not all Blacks look like gorillas, but some such as Robert Mugabe do :

    In political correct culture the question is not whether a statement is true or not, but whether it is “offensive” to “victim groups” or not.

  2. JB
    Posted May 30, 2018 at 10:58 pm | Permalink

    “vj” is not half Persian, so the original analogy does not stand, I am afraid to report.

  3. Rob Bottom
    Posted May 31, 2018 at 12:11 am | Permalink

    It’s entirely possible that Google’s image recognition error was due to low sample sizes of African faces and a surplus sample of gorillas. Google Dream, another one of their ai programs, seems to have a penchant for dog faces. It all comes down to what images are used to build the software’s algorithms. Face recognition in certain cameras have also resulted in controversy, with Asian faces being marked as “squinting” by the software trained on white faces.

    We certainly don’t need Google to tell us there is a resemblance. Neither do blacks seem to have any problem making similar comparisons to us, calling all white people “cavebeasts” (for our relation to Neanderthals) or comparing the smell of our wet hair to “wet dog”. I highly doubt a black comedienne would have a hugely successful show canceled over such comparisons, though.

    • Rez
      Posted May 31, 2018 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

      Excellent comment! A true gentleman you are!

    • ElDoCo
      Posted June 2, 2018 at 3:59 am | Permalink

      Decorum aside, the points of the article are completely valid. Honesty isn’t polite, it’s pure.

  4. Jud Jackson
    Posted May 31, 2018 at 3:10 am | Permalink

    Your insight is absolutely brilliant!! Can’t it be boiled down to just this? “THE TRUTH HURTS.” Your analogy between the fat mama and the super in shape mama and iguanas and gorillas is also perfect. I was close to getting that analogy myself but I never did. I thought a good bumper sticker on my car would be “Honk if you think Michele O looks like a gorilla”,

    A personal note is that when I first went away to college at a large Big 10 university in 1974, I was sexually inexperienced and also very socially naive. So I let out the fact that I was still a virgin to a couple of guys on my dorm floor. The word got around and I was humilated and made fun of and felt terrible. I felt terrible because it was true. I didn’t want to be a virgin but I was. Now, however, I have had some girlfriends and I have been happily married for a long time. If anybody came up to me and said “Jud, you a real loser; you just can’t get laid”, it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest; it is not true so I wouldn’t care in the slightest if anybody said that.

    • ster plaz
      Posted June 1, 2018 at 11:30 am | Permalink

      Jud: Although I agree wholeheartedly with the author and your own example, it is also true in some circumstances that the person needling/teasing you is doing it over something false.

      Once, in a company I worked in, there was a coworker who (I finally realized later on) turned out to have a “superiority complex” toward me, specifically in the “smarts” department. He seemed to think I was supposed to treat him as smarter and/or more educated than myself. He would constantly get his facts wrong and I would get them right, no matter what we discussed …. work or not work. After so many of these incidents, he seem to develop a “cloud in his eyes”, a less friendly visage. To put it mildly.

      He had an electrical engineering degree, I was an electronics technician, trained in the military. But we did the same exact work. It turned out that I could design electronics (self taught) like he was supposed to be able to do. His BSEE degree did not teach him how to design one single solitary circuit. He wasn’t some exception. Many with that diploma are like that.

      It also turned out that he had take seven classes of German language but when he came out of college could not speak more than two sentences before grinding to a halt. I had been stationed in the military in Germany and taught myself German and could communicate pretty good with anyone there. It had to have occurred to him that his college diploma and experience did not result in him being able to do much of anything even in the things he sat in a classroom for. While I actually did learn those, on my own.

      Anyway, he began to constantly make derogatory comments about how I had no college diploma. I took a lot of college classes, yeah, but didn’t bother to take all the filler material to get the diploma due to the industry going down the drain so to speak. He would work it into every situation he found himself near me. When I finally got tired of it and responded, he of course had the “what are you being sensitive about” question all lined up and ready to whip out.

      You see, what he said was true. But the underlying idea behind why he was doing it was a fiction; basically that he is smarter than me because he sat in a classroom and got a piece of paper and I didn’t. He wouldn’t dare say that out loud because I could do those two things (electronic design, speak German) without his precious diploma. Plus, he couldn’t use getting one’s facts right because he utterly lost on that account. So, the college diploma, aka credentialism, was his only weapon to use on me.

      I’ve learned in this life to be on guard when someone is teasing/belittling me; I know there is some other thought/idea going on in their head behind the words they speak. It’s deeper than they let on, that they are jealous of something. Plus, I just know the “what’re you being so sensitive about?” is right around the corner to be used when I get irked by them.

  5. Peter
    Posted May 31, 2018 at 3:18 am | Permalink

    Great article, great argumentations!

    LOOKS as an argument is totally underrated.
    Here the argument: how does a rapist know who to rape, to attack? It´s the LOOKS of the person that identifies her as a woman.
    How does a man know which woman to desire: it´s her LOOKS

    -> so how do we know who we belong to -> it´s the LOOKS !

    My ethnostate will be based on LOOKS! Who belongs? LOOK-test ! A committee decides who is White and who is non White.

    I would speculate that this lack of awareness for looks is part of the rationalism-problem, to think instead of feel -> so… it´s not enough to say: I feel that person doesn´t belong… no, you gotta give a REASON… and with the reason comes the jew with rabulistics and proves to you that the person very well belongs. Yeah sure…; the argumentation has not to be, erm, Mr. Jew, well, but in my opinion blah blah… but the argumentation has to be: I FEEL IT THAT WAY and that´s why I decide that way. This person doesn´t belong.

    And as I have said often: IMO, races are platonic ideals, preestablished forms. We can always say if something is a chair or not, and we can always say if someone is a White or not. I don´t need no rabulistics to make that decision.

    So much to the deconstructionists, there is no White people… yeah… as we all know, the White-hating jewterrorleft is very well able to identify a White person: when it´s about to assign guilt. Nobody has a problem to identify the race of a person, they just don´t like to be identifeid as non-White and then be thrown out of the land of milk and honey where they live off the Whites´ resources.

    • Dazz
      Posted May 31, 2018 at 5:25 am | Permalink

      Looks are not enough to decide who is European, a persons skin may be white, but their genetics say they aren’t “White” i.e. European descent.

      • Peter
        Posted May 31, 2018 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

        Yeah and guess what, it doesn´t even end there! There is even psychological / behavioral / intelligence mimikry within ethnic groups. Take a perfectly White looking person and that person behaves perfectly White and he is STILL actually non-White! That is: you live in a White country with White culture, White scientific and technological prowess, White high-trust, low crime… and what you really have done, you have actually your whole life been living among actual Africans! It is nothing short of astounding what mimikry can achieve !

        Ok and irony aside… as already Greg Johnson said, ethnicity is a process, not a state… or something to that effect… that is, YOU START SOMEWHERE…. and from there on, you optimize the population. If a fake White´s children turn out to be negroes: so tell me, WHO in the White Ethnostate is going to procreate with these negroes? They are encouraged to not procreate, and to possibly move to the mixed-race territories. Same for behavioral aspects (behavioral… I mean do you think if there´s a White and he tells me, I am going to cheat on you, I am going to work actively against your interests, and I form a group specifically for that purpose… that I am accepting that person to my ingroup just because he looks White?? Less autism please !)

        My looks-criterion stands.

  6. E
    Posted May 31, 2018 at 4:20 am | Permalink

    “genetic material found in Sub-Saharan African populations was inserted into the human genome approximately 35,000 years ago from archaic hominins that broke away from the modern human lineage around 700,000 years ago.” (Wikipedia)

    In other words, they’re a different subspecies.

    A useful exercise for white women to test our mental boundaries: would you breastfeed a white baby who is not your own? How about an East Asian baby? A brown or Middle Eastern baby? A black baby?

    And the answer should have consequences on sexual behavior. If the thought of putting a Middle Eastern baby on your breast and feeding him from your own body is causing even mild discomfort, you probably shouldn’t have sex with Roosh.

    • Matthias
      Posted June 3, 2018 at 6:04 am | Permalink

      Hate on Roosh is unwarranted, he’s one of the bravest and most outspoken countersemites and antidegenerates out there. He isn’t white, but he certainly has bigger balls than most WNs, me included.

      • Greg Johnson
        Posted June 3, 2018 at 8:29 am | Permalink

        He’s either a rapist, or he is a liar, selling cuckhold porn to white racists. I can’t think of a more grotesque hero for WNs.

        Not even Yaxley-Lennon compares to that.

      • E
        Posted June 3, 2018 at 9:16 am | Permalink

        I don’t hate Roosh, though I probably should, considering his miscegenation propaganda. My point was that he isn’t white. And I chose him to illustrate my point because I’m Eastern European, and he wrote a series of books about his adventures with white women in my neck of the woods.

  7. Dave
    Posted May 31, 2018 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    “Overcoming bias in AI” is a serious topic in Silicon Valley these days. In other words, how to we prevent AI from running circles around human decision-makers by noticing politically-incorrect truths that must be ignored? AIs program themselves in ways far too complex for humans to understand, so you can’t just open up the source code and tinker with it. Microsoft solved this problem by unplugging their AI when it turned 1488, and Google solved it by removing the “gorilla” tag, so that now its AI can’t identify real gorillas.

  8. Lure/tats/horse Boy
    Posted May 31, 2018 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Regarding the idea that no living blacks have experienced historical wrongs, the other day I was thinking about the comparison of blacks’ history of slavery with that of the Russian serfs. Serfdom in Russia was abolished at about the same time as slavery in America. That status of serfs was a little above that of slaves, but frankly I don’t have the data to fully analyze that question. But there were many horror stories a la uncle toms cabin detailed in the great Russian novels; for example brothers ksmarazov where the lord has the dogs devour the little boy. So there were believed to have been injustices.

    And, the point being, no one is still talking about serfdom in Russia! There is no underclass whining about having been serfs and not being able to compete or live by accepted standards. Gogol, the great father of Russian novel, was in fact the son of emancipated serfs. No one is probably sure who was a serf or not, the blood lines have become mixed.

    • ster plaz
      Posted June 1, 2018 at 10:42 am | Permalink

      Plus, the 1860 US Census shows that only about 4% of the White people of the USA held negroes as slaves; a little under two percent lived in the South and a little over 2% lived in the North (or states that sent regiments to the Union Army). There were more slave owners in the Union than in the Confederacy. It was just that the smaller absolute number of southerners were a larger percentage of the South’s population than so for the North.

      And yet, a little under 30% of free blacks in 1860 were owners of other negroes as slaves. It was about 27%/28%, something like that. Point being, much higher than Whites.

      Plus, the very first person to own a negro slave, was another negro. A freeman named Johnson (if I recall). Plus, many Whites were held in slavery via the indentured servant system. The first Naturalization Act of 1790 specified that only FREE Whites could be US citizens, a clear reference that Whites were held in slavery to some extent at that time. Otherwise it would have never mentioned “free”.

      Every White in America today, many of whom had no ancestor here in the 1860s, are held corporately responsible for some negroes being slaves in the 1860s and earlier. While today’s negro population is not held responsible for all the violent crime (and incarceration money needed) that some negroes commit. Negroes after all, actually created physically the violent negroes among them and taught them to act that way via their violence and other social pathos glorifying culture. Stupendous hypocrisy.

      • ster plaz
        Posted June 1, 2018 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

        I understand you. I was mentioning the gross hypocrisy of blacks complaining of previous slavery of blacks while totally silent to the slavery practived by blacks on other blacks, not just in africa but here in America during colonial and pre-Civil War period. I think that when blacks leave that out it enables them to continue their whine fest to this day.

  9. Jeremiah Barleycorn
    Posted May 31, 2018 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    Oddly enough, black people themselves often call the more brutish members of their tribe “gorillas”. Some time ago, i was talking to a “person of the darker persuasion” in reference to a mutual friend’s house rental business – he rents beaters on the other side of the tracks, as it were. When referencing how “Fred” collects the rent each month, p.o.t.d.p. said, “Man….”Fred” got some fo’real gorillas. Fo’real’dough”. Sometime later i saw “Fred” and a gentleman that collects the rent for him, and the said “gentleman” did indeed resemble a gorilla.

  10. Dr ExCathedra
    Posted May 31, 2018 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    The fundamental issue can be found in this paraphrase of the sentiment often attributed to Voltaire:

    “If you wish to know who truly rules you, find out whom you may not mock.”

    Paul Kersey is right, we are living in BRA, Black-Run America.

    • Martin Donohoe
      Posted May 31, 2018 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

      No. You are living in ZOG run America.

    • Tristan
      Posted June 1, 2018 at 6:00 am | Permalink

      Great quote but Voltaire never said anything like that. The phrase was actually coined by Kevin Strom, the White nationalist who went to prison. There may have been a similar phrase spoken by Huey Long. At any rate, not Voltaire.

  11. ster plaz
    Posted June 1, 2018 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    In addition to the prognathism and nose shapes, I have noticed behavior that negroes perform (a lot of them do) that seem eerily similar to apes, chimps to be exact. When agitated or excited, happy or unhappy, they open their eyes as far as possible and roll them. And make exaggerated lip/mouth expressions. That’s the best I can describe it. And when laughing seem to make a lot of “guffawing”, snorting and other intelligible noises. Doesn’t that seem just like chimps act? Does to me.

    Oh, and of course the street riots resembling a chimp out is not an entirely unjustified comparison.

  12. Julian
    Posted June 2, 2018 at 6:13 am | Permalink

    Funny. I once worked for a few weeks as an intern graphic designer for a small print shop run by a black man. There was also another black guy there who worked as the sales and marketing side.

    Needless to say, the boss really did look like a gorilla. So much so that, when he put down his fist on the desk as he gave my instructions for the day, it was precisely as a gorilla would do when grandstanding to the rest of the gorillas. He lifted weights a lot , was a bit old and grizzled (had lots of grey hairs !) and had a rugby forward’s build. So I pointed out that he looked like one, and he acted fine about it, but it was the other one (who was overweight, may I say more of the Orangutan type) who took offense to this when the boss asked him about it later.

    To my shame, I think I did apologise spontaneously later on – I was young.

    I have other stories on this subject, they know they do, and yes they become insecure when it’s mentioned, but they often bring it up themselves.

  13. Posted June 2, 2018 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    Once I watched a documentary about the Pygmees. They went on a hunting excursion, and as they emerged from the forest where the prey was (antelopes?), one of the producers said something to the effect that maybe they should stay where they can’t be seen. One of the Pygmees replied that it didn’t matter, because the antelopes never ran away because they thought the Pygmees were chimps.

  14. Big Al
    Posted June 2, 2018 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Ya, that’s why most of the country is appalled. I suppose you’re fine with the Washington Redskins as well? Are you guys progressives here? (I was referred here by someone at a progressive blog).
    I’m sure I’ll get attacked, or ignored, but the term is a derogatory used against blacks that goes directly to their supposedly “inferior” intelligence. If I was black, I sure wouldn’t want any white crackers telling me I looked like a gorilla. Maybe you all could go to Shaq’s house and call him a gorilla?

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