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Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 589
Greg Johnson & Angelo Plume on Current Things
Counter-Currents Radio
Ausländer Raus!
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Many dramatic events are ongoing in the world today. Greg Johnson was joined by Angelo Plume (Telegram, YouTube) on the most recent broadcast of Counter-Currents Radio to analyze them and figure out what they mean from the perspective of pro-white identity politics, and also answered listener questions. It is now available for download and online listening.
Topics discussed include:
00:02:13 On the “Ausländer Raus!” phenomenon
00:08:49 The employer of the woman in the “Ausländer Raus!” video may have been a foreigner
00:09:56 The many definitions of “liberal”
00:11:21 Anti-white double standards
00:12:25 There’s a lot of support for the singers
00:13:14 Double standards for Jews
00:17:54 On Zionist Republicans
00:20:03 Calling out Jewish power is mainstream now
00:21:13 On Steve Sailer
00:32:16 On Jewish power
00:36:22 How Jews have influenced Sailer, Angelo, and Greg
00:41:46 Secession vs. no secession
00:47:08 On the inherent self-worth of one’s own people
00:51:22 Is human biodiversity (HBD) a trick?
00:52:42 C. G. Jung’s observations on Jewish power
00:54:53 Listener comments
00:55:35 The present conflict between Israel and Spain
01:01:44 Recognizing Gaza as an independent state
01:03:18 Greg’s response to Jared Taylor on secession
01:07:31 The conservative’s inability to imagine a post-American situation
01:09:30 “Don’t be a conservative”
01:13:59 Why did some Western countries recognize Palestine?
01:15:54 Right-wing parties suck
01:21:43 Lessons from the Holocaust
01:29:29 On Holocaust revisionism
01:35:39 On Italian electoral politics
01:39:00 A question about secession
01:42:21 What would you do with a billion dollars?
01:46:40 Comment on the Pope
01:54:01 On collective self-defense
02:02:24 Conclusion
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26 comments
On Jared Taylor’s “What Is Our Goal” video: our new homeland will have dozens of schools named after Jared Taylor, a much admired warrior for the struggle & survival of our European Race. I agree with Jared that things do not appear optimistic, however, I’m with Greg Johnson’s views that we can take back our homeland(s). It is just a matter of altering course as Greg Johnson brilliantly lays out in “Restoring White Homelands”. During the last several years, I’ve spoken to at least 800 people & 99% of them are unaware of this replacement business plus they don’t like it. Sooner or later, we will hit critical mass, a tipping point & voilà! And no, this will not be a scratch free experience. It will be our greatest experience.
If it is possible it is done.
If it is impossible it will be done.
XIV VERBA
Re: CG Jung. To investigate the results of his work, Jung set up a club, modelled on the men’s clubs of London, where patients who completed analysis could socialize. In the by-law he wrote, he restricted Jewish membership to no more than 10%.
That, alas, did not work. The current Jungian world is fully woke, completely submerged in the collective mind that the old Swiss named as the enemy of consciousness.
Re: The Pope. This wretched Peronist mirrors all the other anti-White Judas leadership in the West, Obama in a cassock. Dante’s Ninth Circle is reserving a spot for him.
Re: postUSA. I am an unusual Boomer in that I have changed my politics a lot over time, going from liberal, to libertarian, to conservative, to White nationalist. (A restless explorer or an unstable mind?). David McCollough’s 2001 John Adams led me to read all about the Founding Fathers, such an extraordinary group of White men, and I fell in love with America. Only to have the 70% White electorate put the Half-Blood Prince in the White House for a second time in 2012. That’s when I realized that what I newly loved was gone and that a White ethnostate was our only future.
I like a lot of Jewish artists and thinkers as well, particularly milius and woody Allen in film, as well as others you guys mentioned. I think it would be low minded to discriminate against figures simply because they were Jewish, although I realize this is something they do a lot, and there is a tendency to want to fight fire with fire. The thing I’ve realized about Jews is that they work within the milieu they are in. In Russia Jews were great chess players and, surprisingly, poets. These were the values of Russian society. In the west they are filmmakers and scientists. They respond and compete within the incentive structure of the civilization they are in—importantly, they are not creating that value system. They may have a few distinct areas, like jazz music, which seems to stem from a desire to have a “thing” together with blacks separate from us; but by and large the western achievements would have been similar without them. That’s my current thinking on this matter.
You sound confused.
How’s that?
Your are perfectly coherent so what he means is beyond me, but if your comment was just a little bit longer you should have put in some spaces for readability imo.
I think this is an interesting observation, but perhaps incomplete. In the United States, for example, Jews brag about creating and controlling the porn industry over the objections of American prudes, creating the Civil Rights movement, pushing transgenderism (“It’s in the Talmud, Jake!” – even though it’s really not) and abortion (“It’s a Jewish value and a Jewish religious requirement!”), pioneering “Critical Theory” including all those gender and race studies courses… It seems to me that they do indeed seek to change the values of the culture, even as they also adapt to the preexisting values.
Oh surely. I was only referring to the positive things, things worth having like technology and higher arts. But all you say is definitely true too, but a separate discussion.
I think the positive aspects are significant, too. They really have contributed a lot to science, for example. I wish we could come to an understanding, where we provide them a prosperous society where they can thrive, and they don’t try to open the borders or otherwise subvert it. We both stand to benefit if we can cooperate, but perhaps that’s not in the cards…
Fantastic discussion but I especially loved Lessons From The Holocaust. I sent a link to several friends highlighting that segment in particular.
Please, i can’t hear this conservative narrative any longer about “imagine if the sides were reversed”. The liberals moaned and bitched about a 1000 head strong “Kalifat Demo” were walking trough Hamburg, BUT I DO NOT CARE. I don’t need to critique the foreigners and their foreign customs, because they are foreign and need to go. I don’t need any liberal critique about “but the Kalifat is mean to gays and women”. I don’t need any complains about Hypocracy, because they all have their root in liberalism, egalitarianism, and nonsense.
Please, i can’t hear this conservative narrative any longer about “imagine if the sides were reversed”.
I remember seeing a CC podcast about when the guests realized that multiculturalism wasn’t working out. I haven’t listened to it yet, but I probably should. The description struck me as strange, because I am still waiting for that realization, and I would find it a great comfort if I could believe that. It doesn’t need to work all that well, nor last very long, to accomplish the intended purpose.
People like you and VP are so convinced that the Golden Rule is a silly White hangup that only Christians and Rawlsian post-Christian egalitarian liberals care about, that you cannot see the real threat to White survival: assimilation. You are confident that non-Whites will never assimilate and Establishment attempts to “domesticate” them are doomed to failure. Millennial Woes thinks Western culture is abhorrent to Muslim men because White men are “ruled over by their women.” I am not so sure. Watch this Arab Imam put on his Veil of Ignorance and show you how it’s done. The whole thing is worth watching, but if you’re really impatient, he really gets going at 2:50.
https://youtu.be/yAUMXDD_8qc?si=vs0R-g6DN4-6isKq
In fact, the Internet poses a very serious challenge to Islam, as the brightest of young Muslims recoil from extreme Quranic ingroup preference that now cannot be buried and ignored. Their sentiments will very likely trickle down.
If the best non-Whites cannot stomach the depravity of hyperethnocentrism, I don’t know what would make you think you’re ever going to convince Whites to disregard the interests of others. You’re going to have to convince them to care more about their own. Fortunately, the Left has shown us the way. We should celebrate diversity, not assimilate it away.
Besides, if you and VP are so unwilling to wear the VI, I’m afraid I can’t trust you, because I am a woman, and you are not. Since you are not a woman and not interested in women’s points of view, I can only assume that you will behave as you have promised, that is, in disregard of anyone who is not exactly like you. Now, you have called any hope of White cooperation and solidarity into question. Can Christian, pagan, and secular Whites trust each other? Gay and straight? Able-bodied and disabled?
Moral nihilism is not the way forward.
What are you actually advocating for? Fifty years ago Australia was effectively a White Christian ethnostate with full human rights for all, but no thoughts of relinquishing political control to anyone other than the descendants of its founding peoples and nearly everyone was quite content with this.
Most of Europe was the same and N. America not much different. Women had only just been enfranchised in Switzerland but nowhere in the West had many female parliamentarians. Political homosexuality, a branch of leftism, was in its infancy. Most people were content with “the privacy of the bedroom” argument. White babies were being born at replacement with little competition from non-Whites. Were all these countries beset by or recovering from moral nihilism?
Say would you guys happen to know what is going on with Paul kersey?
Why? Cause he has missed a couple of AR podcasts?
Just what Uncle Jared has said about him being “detained” but he didn’t elaborate. He said last week he should be back for this weeks Radio Renaissance, but I am sure you already know that.
I was worried antifa had him.
“The comments on it [Amren comments on ‘Is America Doomed?’] are appalling. It just reminds me of why I never read the comment threads over at Amren.” — Greg at 1:04:39
I like American Renaissance very much. Jared Taylor saved my sanity years ago when I discovered AR back in 1996. He was a courageous trailblazer saying what needed to be said. I hold him in very high regard. Having said all that, I have to agree with you about the comments section on AR. It is too freewheeling and open to almost everyone imaginable. As a result it grates on my nerves. I prefer the comment threads here at CC. The comments here are curated for quality.
Yes, it is as if there are shifts of Jewish ankle-biters and cognitive elitist race-mixers assuring that every thread is poisoned with their talking points.
Some 12 hours ago I posted a good comment (imo) on the realistic prospects of a white ethnostate/secession on US territory, I think the issues I presented would be relevant for the discussion mentioned at around 40 minutes here…but it seem to have been rejected.
Was it too «defaitist»?
There is no record of that comment.
Thank you, this was the essence:
The main issue I have with the possibility of a seceding white ethnostate is the one of power: Would it control the whole or large parts of the present US military? If so: How would the rest of the world react to that?
If not: A secession without any nuclear deterrent would be a type of white reservation at the mercy of the neighbours, I can easily imagine said neighbours working themselves into a frenzy and then go on to nuke the «nazis».
Taking over the USA as such seems quite impossible but at least then you would have an empire to contract and eventually dissolve much like the end of the Soviet Union.
Considering how much TPTB hates us I see little hope of an ethnostate forming without a cruel and total war from day one, the only realistic scenario here imo is to first somehow conquer the «centre» and then make deals with the other groups.
Btw: I did post the comment but don’t remember if it appeared with the red text «waiting for moderation» or if it just disappeared, it could have been the latter.
That text is not red but black, strange how memory can make fun of us as we get older.
I have up through the years paid much more attention to immigration in general and Islam in particular than race as such and the main reason this is changing is because it is more or less forced upon me, I take for granted that regulars here will understand what I mean by that.
Also: «I tought Sharia was uniquely bad until I read about the Talmud» fits me perfectly.
Doxing would hurt me but not in a fundamental way so I might as well give away a little secret: I comment at Unz under this same nick…and also at some other sites but not very often.
I’d be kidding myself to think that Palestinians were the indigenous people of that land, but I find myself without any room for sympathy to Jewish elites for some reason.
Well, Mr. Plume, you managed to piss me off minutes into this show. Given that you are one of the few WN still publicly using the term “thot,” that should come as no surprise.
Anyway, I notice that you assume that, because this girl works for a passport German, she is in favor of multiculturalism. By that reasoning, we should assume that every White male who works in law enforcement or the military (where they are far more dangerous than this girl) is anti-white and loves multiculturalism. Here in the real world, lots of people absolutely detest their bosses, and indeed resent working for foreigners. For all you know, she was looking for a new job even before this controversy.
Yet, despite the fact that everyone in the world knows that alcohol is a truth serum, you assume she is being ironic, (i.e. untruthful) while under the influence, and what she does to pay the rent reflects her true feelings. This is par for the course: the despite/ because of rule in action. Meanwhile, your divisive misogyny is more damaging to the White cause than anything this girl is doing.
Shame on you! You advise SS to be honest. How about you take that plank out of your eye so you can see better?
Are you tired after building that strawman? I said perhaps, perhaps the girl and others singing the song are just having a bit fun being irreverent. I said perhaps the girl has no problem with foreigners given that she was working for someone of dubiously German origin. I made these statements in defence of the girl, who is being attacked by a malicious state and media which does not take this potentials into account.
What I did not say are any of the things you have written in your tiresomely melodramatic comment. ‘Divisive misogyny’? Stop trying to make this about you, Lexi.
And how would you know if I’m wrong, anyway? How do you know that the girl wasn’t just a bit tipsy and having fun singing a meme song? Neither you nor I know the girl or her circumstances.
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