Counter-Currents
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Over the last few months there has been quite a bit of hubbub within the Alt Right movement over who exactly can be counted among our ranks and who can credibly be representing us to the public. This discussion has become particularly prominent in our circles since Hillary gave her lackluster speech on our movement and warned everyone about the dangers of our cartoon frog. It has also been understandably alarming to some that the media seems to be painting the gay Jew Milo Yiannopolous as one of our spokesmen.
Greg Johnson of Counter-Currents has asserted that the Alt Right is “a broad umbrella term for ideological tendencies that reject mainstream American conservatism.” He contends, however, that White Nationalists need to give it a more concrete identity by making it our movement: “the Alternative Right means White Nationalism — or it means nothing at all . . . go forth into battle and make this concept of the Alternative Right the dominant one.”
Andrew Anglin of The Daily Stormer fame agrees in his article “A Normie’s Guide to the Alt Right“: “The short story is that although the term could refer to a lot of different people saying a lot of different things, the people that it is being used to refer to by the media — Trump-supporting white racial advocates who engage in trolling and other activism on the internet — are the core of the movement, with any other groups and figures being peripheral.” As far as fulfilling Greg Johnson’s objective, Anglin argues that we are already on the verge of reaching that consensus.
Even from a non-White Nationalist corner of the Alt Right, it is agreed that the Alt Right is a broad ideological gathering but that the core is white Identity. Vox Day stated in an interview with Stefan Molyneux that “. . . what the Alt Right is at its core is we are the descendants of those who were read out of the conservative movement . . . mostly due to an unwillingness to defer to the conservative movement’s attempt to ingratiate itself with the industrial mil complex, and the neoconservatives, and the Bush administration.” He states that our ideological ancestors are “the John Birch Society, of Sam Francis, of Pat Buchanan . . . of everyone from John Derbyshire to Ann Coulter.” He leaves out some very important thinkers, but still ultimately concludes that “The Alt Right takes an Identity approach to the world . . . which 95% of the world takes. . . . White Americans are beginning to learn that they have to play the game (of identity politics) just like everybody else.” Vox is not even white, yet he understands our plight and appears to sympathize with our cause while he himself focuses on combating social justice warrior agendas.
Taking these viewpoints into consideration, my own view is this:
- The Alt Right is a movement consisting of many different viewpoints, all of which agree that the mainstream conservative doctrines of free trade, open-door immigration, multiculturalism, and interventionist wars in the Middle East are net negatives.
- The Alt Right traces its ideological origins back to the more nationalistic conservative ideologues who were purged from the mainstream conservative movement by Will Buckley, as well as to men like Kevin MacDonald, William Pierce, George Lincoln Rockwell, Jared Taylor, and other old-school White Nationalists. I would even argue that Adolf Hitler deserves to be on this list, which I’m sure will make some of the “Alt Lite” folks cringe. One also cannot discount philosophers like Julius Evola, Oswald Spengler, and Francis Parker Yockey.
- The Alt Right needs to be turned 100% into a vehicle for our message. Lawrence Murray did a good job of outlining this message in his article “The Fight for the Alt Right: The Rising Tide of Ideological Autism Against Big Tent-Supremacy.” To summarize: Human equality is a myth; our world is tribal; the white tribe is being suppressed in its own nations; men and women are different; freedom is a responsibility and not a right; democracy ought to be of limited form or replaced entirely; and the Jews exercise a negative influence on our societies, which they do out of some biological impulse. To this I would add Andrew Anglin’s “Cultural Normalization, Common-Sense Economics, and White Countries for White People.”
- While we pursue our goal of fully occupying the helm of the Alt Right, we must recognize that those who are not fully on board with all of our principles can nonetheless be considered a part of the Alt Right provided they aid us in our efforts and do not work to contradict us. Many of these types can eventually be turned into full White Nationalists anyway, as their views are only a few inches away from ours. To quote Lawrence Murray, “The big tent is worth preserving to persevere against our common enemies, for our struggle is revolutionary.”
The fourth point leads us into the main purpose of my article. To quote Anglin again: “The Alt Right is a ‘mass movement’ in the truest possible sense of the term, a type of mass-movement that could only exist on the internet, where everyone’s voice is as loud as they are able to make it. In the world of the internet, top-down hierarchy can only be based on the value, or perceived value, of someone’s ideas.”
I have taken it upon myself to delineate this hierarchy, as I have always had a predisposition toward putting things into categories since I was barely able to speak. I shall call it . . . the Caste System of Alt Righteousness. Our race has a history of creating caste-based societies, after all (though on a much grander scale).
This caste system is based on the idea that full-on White Nationalists who embrace all of Murray’s and Anglin’s principles represent the highest peak, which descends downward into castes of people who embrace less radical narratives. However, like an initiatic society, the system is meritocratic; one can ascend to the heights as they begin to embrace more principles of our worldview.
Structure
White Nationalists must occupy the helm of this pyramid, as we deal in the ultimate truths when it comes to race, politics, economics, and culture. We tackle the “meta” stuff whereas the lesser Alt Rightists go after the more immediate things. In the same light, the higher priestly castes of ancient societies tackled the meta-physical questions while the other castes dealt primarily with the physical.
The very existence of Western civilization, which most of the Alt Right purports to champion, hinges on the biologically-distinct white race that created it as a natural consequence of its unique mental and spiritual impulses. The deep, dark level of decadence the West has descended to is largely because of the influence of Jews, who have created their various movements and causes to undermine our foundations as a result of their own unique mental and spiritual characteristics. Since the Alt Right wishes to remedy the modern-day symptoms of the Jewish disease within White societies to save them, it only follows that those groups who promote White advocacy and discuss the Jewish question are fit to lead the movement.
The Top Tier
In this top-tier, Brahmin level of Alt Righteousness, I would include the following groups, websites, and individuals. Forgive me if I have left any big players out:
Counter-Currents, The Right Stuff, The Daily Stormer, David Duke (who probably uses the word “Jews” more than he uses the word “the”), Kevin MacDonald, weev, Millenial Woes, Red Ice Radio, Evalion (who focused more on naming the Jew than White Nationalism, and who is apparently part Amerindian), Murdoch Murdoch, the Occidental Observer, Uncuck the Right (now known as Walt Bismarck), and older-school websites like National Vanguard and Stormfront. All of them — whether in the form of print, videos, or even music — argue that Whites are a distinct socio-biological entity that has a right to its own exclusive set of homelands and cultures, and that Jews are a distinctly different group that works to undermine our very existence.
Second Tier
Below this rank of ultimate bro-tier, I would place all of those groups and individuals who address racial realism and promote white advocacy, but who for whatever reason choose not to cover the Jews or who adopt a soft position on them. These are the guys who you respect and love (at least I do), but to whom you say “Bro . . . c’mon . . . are you serious?” It’s like when your brother is a good-looking dude but chooses to date an ugly chick way below his league. You simply don’t understand it, and you feel disdainful towards him, but you still love and respect him because he is your brother and you’ve shared so much of your life together.
In this rank I would include the following: Jared Taylor and American Renaissance, Richard Spencer and Radix Journal, and Vdare.
Guys, c’mon now. The anti-white narrative comes from Cultural Marxism, which comes from the schools of Critical Theory and Cultural Anthropology; the latter comes from the Jewish intellectuals Marcuse, Adorno, Horkheimer, etc., and the former comes from the Jew Franz Boas. Their theories and books were disseminated by other Jews in academia, and their educational programs were funded by Jewish money. The Jewish intellectuals of Critical Theory were influenced by the coked-out pervert Jew Sigmund Freud and the out-of-touch-with-reality Jew Karl Marx. Karl Marx was largely influenced by the teachings of the Jew Moses Hess. The Jews at large have developed an evolutionary mechanism wherein they seek to undermine the cohesion of other ethnicities and societies for their own benefit, and many times they do this without even realizing what they are doing. I know that post hoc ergo proctor hoc is a logical fallacy . . . but guys . . . c’mon now. To quote a scene from Family Guy where Lois attends a skinhead meeting: “No but seriously, the Jews are bad.”
Third Tier
Third from the top, I would place those Alt Righters who acknowledge the greatness of Western Civilization without being overtly pro-white, and who address the dangers of non-white immigration without being overtly anti-white. These are the ones who will openly condemn non-Western cultures as being backward or deficient, or who stress the impracticality of Third-World immigration into the West, but who don’t walk the next 5 inches into discussing race. Of course, they will on occasion acknowledge that whites built Western Civilization and America and that “white privilege” is a false concept. They are the civic nationalists, paleocons, and even libertarians. I feel that they aren’t totally outside the spectrum of the Alt Right because they argue against many of the Left’s most sacred cows and earn its revulsion as a result. They also serve as a possible entry point into the Alt Right. A member of my own family has stepped through the gateway of places like TakiMag only to end up at the beautiful floating city of White Nationalism. He now listens to Red Ice Radio and The Daily Shoah and reads Vdare, and mind you, this was a man who used to tell me to calm down at age 14 because my views were too “virulent.”
While it may seem counterintuitive to place the God Emperor in a spot underneath the apex caste, Donald Trump must go here. Let’s be honest guys, he’s a civic nationalist who means well, and who has been instrumental in the ascension of our movement to mainstream recognition, but he is no White Nationalist. Alongside him would be his priestess Ann Coulter, the former libertarian Stefan Molyneux, Pat Buchanan, TakiMag, Gavin McInnes, and RamzPaul.
RamzPaul has explicitly stated that he is not a White Nationalist, and he often mocks us for the amount of time we spend discussing the Jews and derides us as “1488ers.” I suspect this is just because of some chip he has on his shoulder, or some desire to set himself apart from the larger group to feel cool. I cannot be sure. What I do know however, is that his videos are incredibly pro-white and anti-multiculturalism, he loves Europe, he argues that every people has a right to a homeland, he mocks Jews on occasion (“Let’s call them Finns”), and he looks like British comedian Stephen Merchant (irrelevant, but I felt someone needed to bring it up). I love his videos, but because of his attitude, he gets the third caste.
Black Pidgeon Speaks is another excellent YouTuber who belongs in this caste, though he is borderline White Nationalist. His videos are very well-produced and accessible, covering topics such as gender differences, race, IQ, immigration, George Soros, globalism, and economics from a pro-Western perspective. I suspect that in his heart he actually belongs at the top, but for now he goes here. He has not overtly labeled himself as a White Nationalist or said anything against the Jews as a group.
Fourth Tier
Beneath this caste I would place the people who work to combat the professional and intellectual thuggery of the Social Justice Warriors and very particular Leftist narratives, but who don’t have any kind of overarching pro-White, pro-Western, or anti-Semitic ideology driving it.
Author and video-game designer Vox Day goes here. In fact, I would elect him the leader of this caste if such a thing existed. He was an outspoken supporter of Gamergate and organized the Rabid Puppies movement, which at its core sought to diminish the influence of Left-minded authors like George R. R. Martin over the science-fiction Hugo Awards. Rather than giving awards to books about transexual vampires fighting against homophobic dragons, Day and his followers felt that the science fiction community should once again seek to emulate luminaries like J. R. R. Tolkien and Frank Herbert, who were essentially pro-Western and Right-wing in their thought. His book SJWs Always Lie is a must read for every member of the Alt Right. Of course, he is only part-white and does not explicitly push a pro-white or pro-Western agenda (though he comes close.)
This caste is also home to the Manosphere crowd. While many of them are outright degenerates who encourage nihilistic bed-hopping among white men who should be focusing their energies elsewhere, they still do a good job of dismantling the feminist narrative with their discussions of female psychology and other related topics. Encouraging men to take greater control over their lives and improving their minds and bodies is also commendable. I’m sure that some among them are actual White Nationalists, but the overarching Manosphere as a whole is not. It does become a problem though when some of them promote genocidal lifestyles like miscegenation on the one hand and completely disengaging from relationships with all women on the other. They should be accepted on a case-by-case basis.
It is within this caste that I would also place the Gamergate movement, for which I happen to have a lot of respect and appreciation. In my opinion, Gamergate was to the Alt Right what the Spanish Civil War was to World War 2. It was the rehearsal for the much larger war to come. During the conflict between the Axis-backed Francoists and the Soviet-backed Republicans, the armies of Germany and the Soviet Union tested out their new arsenals and military capabilities to see how well they would fare in the coming conflict. The forces of the Right under Francisco Franco, with support from the Axis powers, managed to crush the Leftists and shield Spain from Leftist corruption for many years. Unlike the Axis Powers though, I believe Kek has ordained that we will win the coming war.
Gamergate began in 2013 when it became evident to members of the video gaming community that certain types of video games — that is, games that pushed forth some kind of social justice narrative — were being promoted by gaming journalists, largely as a result of sexual favors and other forms of nepotism between certain developers and journalists. What ensued was a mostly online struggle between the gaming community and its allies: Vox Day, Milo Yiannopolous, some YouTube personalities like Internet Aristocrat (now known as Mister Metokur) and Thunderfoot, Adam Baldwin from Firefly, some non-Leftist game developers, Christina Hoff Sommers, the porn star Mercedes Carrera, and a legion of angry Chaners; and the Leftist game journalists and their allies: the cucky white knight NFL player Chris Kluwe, Anita Sarkeesian of Feminist Frequency and her cucky boyfriend Jon McIntosh, the feminist tranny Brianna Wu, the treacherous Moot of 4Chan, and the writers of Law and Order: SVU. Thousands of tweets were unleashed by both sides, several doxings occurred, threatening phone calls were issued, a bomb threat was made against a SXSW convention, and most importantly, some of the earliest precursors of meme magic issued forth from the keyboards of righteous Gamergaters.
By the time it was all over the forces of the Left had a few black eyes. The journalists were revealed to be nepotistic, corrupt liars who put ideology and personal connections above the community they were supposed to represent. One could argue that the same thing is happening to the mainstream media right now thanks to Donald Trump and the Alt Right’s memes. In the grander scheme of things, the Left itself was revealed to be an authoritarian enemy of fun, which up until then had been the average gamer’s view of the Right.
In summation, Gamergate was not a right-wing Identitarian movement by any stretch, though many future Alt Righters probably took part in it. It was, however, a major victory of a hitherto apolitical subculture against a Left-wing attempt at subverting it. These tactics would later prove useful in the memetic war against cuckservatives, liberal and Jewish journalists, and others who work to undermine white collective interests.
I would staff this caste further with anti-SJW Youtube personalities, a shining example of which is Mister Metokur. He has made a number of hilarious podcasts and videos where he mocks the hell out of Black supremacists, Otherkin, feminists, social networking websites, and other generic SJWs. His more serious work has covered the Michelle Fields hoax, San Bernardino, and Gamergate. He is not explictly pro-White, though he has appeared on Millenial Woes and, as I see it, deserves a place under the Alt Right tent. For Alt Rightists who happen to also be into the gaming subculture, I highly recommend his video “InternetAristocrat’s #gamergate series.”
To be sure, there are other similar YouTube figures that I’ve probably left out . . . and no, I’m not including the “classic liberal” partial-Negro Sargon of Akkad, who feels entirely too cool to accept any ideology that espouses racial collectivism. To his credit though, he has given White Nationalists platforms on which to speak and has also appeared on Millenial Woes a few times.
Alex Jones’s associate Paul Joseph Watson also belongs in this caste. I strongly abhor him for arguing that Jews have nothing to do with the decline of the West, and that people who argue such never provide any evidence to support their claims. This was an outright lie, and he had to know it was. However, his other YouTube videos are explicitly pro-Western, anti-SJW, anti-Left, anti-BLM, and anti-Hillary Clinton, among other good things. Apart from being informative, his videos are often funny as well.
This is probably a good place to stick the Historical Revisionists. They are not openly White Nationalist or pro-Western per se, but the information they disseminate helps to debunk the narrative about the Jews and their perpetual victimhood. Some individual revisionists are, of course, White Nationalists.
Million Dollar Extreme (MDE) belongs here as well. Much of their comedy is absurd and surreal, but a lot of it also mocks the main pillars of the establishment. On their Cartoon Network show World Peace and in some of Sam Hyde’s stand-up routines, ridicule and mockery are heaped upon the idea of white privilege, the myth of systemic racism, anti-bullying programs, the Jews, and race-mixing, among various other tropes. Unless I am totally missing the mark, I’d say MDE even gives some nods to the Alt Right movement on their show:
Sam Hyde: “Your new nickname is Moonman . . . Your secret name, which neither myself nor Nitrodubs will call you, will be. . . David Duke. (Sam then smirks at the screen.)
The whiny Jew Joe Bernstein of Buzzfeed sure seems to think that Sam is guilty of wrong-think.
To summarize:
1) The Helm — Anti-Semitic White Nationalists
2) Non-anti-Semitic White Nationalists
3) Western Chauvinists and Civic Nationalists
4) Anti-SJWs and opponents of the Leftist narrative
Some may argue that I spend entirely too much time discussing lower-caste phenomena. This is because I feel that most of my readers already know what they need to about the players in the upper castes.
Tributaries
There are some who vocally oppose White Nationalism and anti-Semitism and support liberal democracy, but who nonetheless manage to do some good works that inadvertently red-pill people into our Cause. They cannot be considered part of the Alt Right because their efforts would likely cause us harm in the long run. However, their roles as entry-points into more radical ways of thinking makes them worthy of note. Among them are Alex Jones, Steven Crowder, and Sargon of Akkad.
How could I leave out the man whom the media alleges to be our leader?
Milo Yiannopolous is an open race-mixing homosexual and self-avowed Jew. He has tried to argue that our movement is not serious in its racialism or anti-Semitism, and that all we seek to do is troll people for the LoLz. He may have stolen money from a college fund he organized to help young White males. He is also pro-Israel. On the other hand, he has done quite a bit of good. His appearances on college campuses and televised interviews are legendary, often leaving his SJW opponents apoplectic with rage and incoherence; in one instance he even said that white people “invented all the good shit.” During the Gamergate controversy he supplied the pro-gamers with evidence that the Leftist gaming journalists were conspiring as a whole to promote a certain narrative. The troll barrage that he incited against the allegedly-funny Leslie Jones will not be forgotten. On the Dave Rubin Show he unflinchingly admitted that Jews control Hollywood and the media. Many red pills have likely been issued upon white youth from Milo’s hands. However, his personal identity, his attempt to distort what the Alt Right is about, and his overall aura of untrustworthiness relegate him to the outside of our movement. It honestly stings me a little to do this, as I find him immensely entertaining and appreciate the good things he has done. But I must consider the greater good, and he is entirely too risky of a figure to be representing us.
Radical Traditionalism as a school of thought needs to be addressed. One cannot delve into a hierarchy of right-wing thinking without giving some coverage to this philosophy. To summarize, Radical Traditionalism holds the following views:
- History is cyclical, and civilizations progress from a Golden Age of development and prosperity into a Dark Age of decadence and collapse.
- Western Civilization is currently nearing the end of the Dark Age.
- There is an ultimate metaphysical Reality which supersedes and makes possible the physical universe.
- All major world religions offer a path to experiencing the ultimate Reality.
- Ancient civilizations centered their cultures around metaphysical Truths and principles. As they strayed from their original doctrines, they began to slowly decay until finally collapsing.
- Race is a tripartite concept: it is physical, mental, and spiritual.
- Different kinds of races create different kinds of civilizations. If a civilization has a multiplicity of physical, mental, and spiritual types, it suffers an inner tension until one type prevails, or the collapse is hastened.
- Individual races and civilizations are internally hierarchical: some individuals are meant to be priests and thinkers, others to be leaders and warriors, others to be merchants and tradesmen, and others to be laborers. This is organized via caste systems.
- Men and women are physical manifestations of different cosmic principles that complement one another.
The philosophy is anti-democratic and anti-egalitarian, it argues that racial pluralism causes internal strife, and it holds that Indo-European religions offer an excellent pathway to higher enlightenment and overall balance in life. But the philosophy is not exclusively pro-white, pro-Western, or anti-Semitic, because people from every race can essentially follow it. You can be a Radical Traditionalist if you are a Germanic neo-pagan, an Italian Catholic monk, an Arab Sufi Muslim, a Lebanese Druze, a Tibetan Buddhist, an Indian Hindu, or even a Jew who studies Kabbalah.
As such, I opted not to include Radical Traditionalism in the Caste System of Alt Righteousness, even though I would say that I myself essentially subscribe to it as do many White Nationalists. It functions more like a world-historical outlook that can be complementary to the Alt Right while at the same time syncing up with the agendas of entirely different movements. There can be Radical Traditionalists who are ardent White Nationalists, just as there can be Muslim Radical Traditionalists who seek to destroy Western Civilization for the supremacy of their civilization. A member of the Sons of Odin who practices Asatru rituals and is willing to charge into a fray of Muslim rapists is a Radical Traditionalist, as is a devout member of Hezbollah who is willing to blow himself up to force Israeli soldiers into a retreat.
I would encourage Alt Rightists to read Revolt Against the Modern World by Julius Evola. Some notable Radical Traditionalist figures with a pro-white and pro-Western bent are Varg Vikernes and Troy Southgate; an excellent source of Radical Traditionalist literature is Arktos Media.
Final Words
My caste system is mostly intended as food for thought. I leave it to you to decide upon its usefulness. My main argument can be summarized thusly: The Alt Right should be made into a vehicle for White Nationalism, but should include those Right-wing and anti-Left thinkers and agitators who help us in combating our enemies and spreading the core concepts of our worldview, provided they do not work to undermine us. The caste system illustrates who is closest to fully promoting this worldview. When and if we all reach a consensus, there will no longer be a need for this system.
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37 comments
James Edwards and the Political Cesspool deserve to be included in the top tier as well.
I like it. Good work.
If you really want to categorize the movement in its current form, I think you would have a fairly complicated diagram with a lot more subcategories. Right now it seems inexact, like putting Evalion in the same category as Occidental Quarterly, or putting Stormfront (old school WN) in with therightstuff.biz (new school, youngish intellectuals & trolls). I am pretty sure that Andrew Anglin categorized the Alt right recently and had a different organizational structure that you might want to look at. As a visual person who also appreciates organization, it would be interesting to see your diagram if/when you create it.
Clearly I’ve read Anglin’s article you mention, as I directly quote it above. My paradigm lines up pretty well with his, I think.
What, no Rense?
Mr. Bell, did you write these nine points of Radical Traditionalism yourself, or take them from elsewhere? The reason I ask is that there is a different set of Radical Traditionalist principles that the Tyr journal outlined some years ago, which are also quite good.
I should’ve mentioned Tyr. But yes, I summarized the philosophy based on my own understanding of it.
Excellent article. Especially liked the GG-Alt-Right, Spanish Civil War-WWII analogy.
As I find these categorization exercises useful, I think those who don’t talk about Jews should further be categorized into three tiers.
Those who don’t talk about Jews for:
1.) Personal reasons – they don’t fully understand the issue (difficult to believe, but it is possible, especially among people who have Jewish friends and family members) or are made uncomfortable by it for some reason.
2.) Financial reasons – they are not willing to deal with the financial costs of speaking on the issue, due to getting their PayPal donations being cut, losing their YouTube channel, losing sponsors
3.) Subversive reasons – they seek to draw away attention from the Jews for subversive Jewish reasons
(they aren’t mutually exclusive)
I won’t go through and categorize all of these people, because I’m not a drama queen. This is more of a thought exercise than something anyone needs to write an essay about just yet.
But for example, I think Jared Taylor is mainly doing it for personal reasons. For one, he is obsessed with IQ, so has an Ashkenazim fetish. He also has Jewish friends. And probably most relevantly, he’s old and has never said it before, so there’s pride there.
Alex Jones mainly skips it for financial reasons, but his children are part Jewish so there are personal reasons. Then he also has a Jewish producer, so there is a subversive element there.
Someone like McInnes is doing it for financial reasons, while working for the Jew Ezra Levant who is doing it for subversive Jewish reasons.
inb4 “strategic reasons,” I don’t really think that is valid at this point, especially in the Age of Trump when most of the other stuff is on the verge of just being openly discussed on Fox News. And so any claim of “strategic reasons” would have to be categorized as either “personal reasons” – that is, you have a personal problem with formulating reasonable strategies – or “subversive reasons” – that you’re giving off the impression you’re avoiding the issue for strategic reasons while actually just trying to shield Jews.
It’s clear that people who don’t talk about the issue for personal reasons are not a threat. People who don’t talk about it for financial reasons are probably not a threat. But if someone is being subversive, we have to be very careful with the assumption that we can “use them before they use us.”
I had a disagreement with Greg and some others about back when Milo first started posing. Maybe the disagreement was on whether or not he was a genuine subversive or whether he was just using the movement for the purposes of his career – I don’t recall the details.
At his Houston talk however, there were shots fired. I was named and he openly said that racists are “2-5% of the movement,” saying that we are the only ones who call ourselves “Alt-Right,” and he is using the term for a different purpose. He is now openly attempting to purge the movement from itself. And I don’t think that claiming “oh well, we’re smarter than he is” is a very good strategy. Even if we are smarter than he is, his audience is orders of magnitude larger than ours.
I believe that he has objectively outworn any usefulness he may have had, and everyone should be openly attacking him at this point. He has helped popularize the term, so if we can throw him off now, it will have been a net positive. But if we allow him to continue to define the movement, claiming credit for our work (mine in particular, I say with utmost modesty, but he is claiming my troll army) while saying we are all just joking, we are going to begin losing ground. We are at that point: refusing to address this any longer – allowing him to define us as cultural libertarians who just think it is funny to make fun of Jews because they are overly sensitive people – can only lead to harm to our agenda.
I think there’s a legitimate strategy in red-pilling normies on one subject at a time. People go to AmRen and learn not only about Race, crime & IQ and that sort of stuff, but also that you can be pro-White without looking like some driveling, uneducated crank. Then, pretty soon you move on, via shared writers like Greg Hood, to other sites, like CC and Occidental Observer, and learn about the rest of it. That’s pretty much how it was for me.
Agree about Milo though, it’s time we threw that media-whore out.
It is important to differentiate between, on the one hand, Vox Day’s personal identity as well as some of his preferred causes (e.g. GamerGate) from, on the other, his role as a thinker and analyst of the Alt Right movement as a whole. His role as the latter is, in my view, incomparably more important than the way you describe him. The views he laid out in Cuckservative, as well as his recent posts “What the Alt Right Is” and “Of Alt-West and Alt-White”, among others, make it clear that Vox is certainly “tier 2” in terms of his understanding of the movement. Perhaps because of a combination of his identity and the fact that he writes more as a “describer of reality” than purely as an _advocate_ for a particular position, it is difficult to fit him within your caste system. But to ignore his larger role in philosophically outlining the key tenets and contours of the movement, and just to relegate him to a kind of anti-SJW, GG leader is to misrepresent his contribution and importance. His understanding of, and willingness to describe, the Jewish role in undermining Western society differs little from Greg’s or Kevin MacDonald’s fundamentally.
In my view, the most important thinkers and theorists of the Alt Right are Greg Johnson and Vox Day. Greg has been more of a theorist and formulator of the ideology and an advocate for certain positions, whereas Vox tends to be more of an expositor of reality as well as a highly acute anticipator of where things are going. But no one else comes close to them in terms of providing a sophisticated and comprehensive analysis and description of Alt Right, identity-based politics today. In Europe, Faye is probably the most important.
I realize that the above caste system was not meant to rate the importance of thinkers, so perhaps my view above is an entirely different topic. But I raise it because viewed in a vacuum, I find the castes simply an analysis of who is more “hardcore” in his thinking.
Some people are criticizing Vox’s post on Alt-West and Alt-White as “punching right”. But I don’t believe that is what he has doing. Vox has actually been among the most vocal critics against those who attack allies. His view is that we should be firing on the enemy, and work out differences later. That is why he doesn’t attack either Milo (someone much further Left than Vox) or Andrew Anglin (someone far more Right, or at least hardcore than Vox). Vox’s critics are, as is often the case, mistaking his description of reality for an advocacy of a particular reality. In his Alt-West / Alt-White post, he was not saying the Alt White is wrong; rather he is pointing out where the likely trend is: that Alt West is proving to be more palatable and is gaining greater acceptance. Therefore, we need to distinguish Alt White so that it is not subsumed by Alt West. He is actually trying to protect and ensure there is a space for Alt White. One can dispute that view, but I don’t think one can say he is criticizing or trying to “read out” the Alt White from the overall movement.
It would be very interesting to have Greg address Vox’s post on Alt-West / Alt-White, because obviously — whether consciously or not — Vox is taking issue with Greg’s idea that “the Alt Right is White Nationalism … or it is nothing”. A podcast between Vox and Greg on this issue would, in my view, be very enlightening.
Richard Spencer should be tier 1. His views on the JQ would put him there with the others.
Tfw you’re a thought leader. Good article by the way.
Thought contributor, my friend,
Morrakiu is absolutely top-tier; he came over from libertarianism, he’s young, he does hilarious parodies, and he understands memes. I simply cannot fathom how the msm keeps sleeping on him. Seriously, watch his shit.
Great article, it sums up the formation rather well. Overall, you could today say that “everything’s coming up right-wing” or somesuch. The cultur war isn’t over but it does indeed go forward.
In the article it says the following of the culture war in the science fiction sector: “Rather than giving awards to books about transexual vampires fighting against homophobic dragons, Day and his followers felt that the science fiction community should once again seek to emulate luminaries like J. R. R. Tolkien and Frank Herbert, who were essentially pro-Western and Right-wing in their thought.” — Indeed, that’s the game, and while I’m not affiliated to Vox Day I agree that we have to take back sf from the left-leaning bunch. And in my study Science Fiction Seen from the Right (Manticore Books, 2016) I do just that, looking at authors like Heinlein, Herbert, Tolkien, Lovecraft etc. etc. on their own terms, as promotors of eternal values in this or the other respect.
1) I don’t know whether to be thrilled or hurt by not being included in this list. 🙂 I think… I think maybe … that I like it. 🙂
2) I wrote a similar list a few weeks ago. The New “Right” Class Structures But I organized it by argumentative structure. Given our differences in abilities, we tend to argue differently at about every 10 points of IQ (with significant overlap). This division corresponds to both social and occupational classes as well as IQ. And I placed people in the alt-right given their method of argument. Which of course some people found insulting. But just as the English language contains three sets of terms: german for the lower class, french for the ruling class, and latin for the intellectual class, all political movements use a different language and argumentative method for every caste or class. (expressive, ridicule, moral justification, rational/historical justification, ratio-empirical-correspondence, and institutional. (And I consider myself in the NEW RIGHT rather than ALT RIGHT – for this reason: class argument method.) So view the world as the outgoing ‘hopeful’ old right(political). The resigned alt right(cultural). The traditional right in transition(religio-familial). The New Right (scientific-institutional).
3) And, I do understand why I am not included in this post’s list:
(a) I view the world as abandoning the 20th century battle between feminine universalism(socialism) and its paternal opponent masculine particularism(fascism), and that worldwide all groups are returning to Nationalism and Tribalism – in recognition of the failure of the anglo-contractual-commercial-universalism, and Jewish socialism-libertarian-neo-conservatism (ie: puritans and jews). And that we are just like everyone else – trying to reassert our traditional history now that the ‘market’ has been maximized by the universal adoption of consumer credit capitalism worldwide.
(b) I blame us (whites) for not manning the fortress Europa , not those who have succeeded in breaching our walls – it is after all, the purpose of competition, and we are losing because we are lazy and unwilling to fight.
(c) I spend my time worrying about institutional solutions, not trying to appease my bruised ego by ridiculing the wildlife for merely being wildlife. The scorpion DOES kill the frog before they get to the other side of the stream. Only a fool trusts the scorpion to act against its nature.
So:
i) Nationalism is for everyone, not just us. And anyone that it’s not for, is someone to be exterminated as a threat to the rest, not just us – to mankind.
ii) We must fight, and stop talking as if we will win a democratic election. Hillary is just the Left’s Dole: the next anointed apparatchik available in a weak field of options.
iii) We need a solution to fight for that restores our walls, and a process of transition, and a process of disrupting the economy and government such that surrender is obtained rather than ongoing hardship.
CLOSING
The alt-right is still a working-class and lower middle-class movement. because that’s where all the disenfranchised males are. And disenfranchised males are the only people who matter in creating a revolution. Unfortunately, the alt right has no answers to offer and is just a resistance movement.
But Resistance is insufficient for revolution. Rebellion is insufficient for Rule. Criticism is insufficient for proposing a solution. And a solution is necessary to coordinate action. Instead we must have a solution to demand, a plan of transition, and a plan by which to demand our solution.
The alt right is succeeding by adopting the methods of the Marxist/Socialist/Feminist/cultural-Marxists: poison the virtue signals of the opponents and make their status signals a worthless commodity. It’s working. And all we had to do was give up our ‘honor’ to do it. But once that’s done – “What’ch ya’ got there sonny?” Nothin’.
Necessary does not mean sufficient. The Alt right is necessary but insufficient. That’s where others come in. And that combination of ALT-RIGHT(Culture/aesthetics), TRAD-RIGHT(Ethics and Family), and NEW-RIGHT(institutions), will be what provides the full compliment of classes necessary to change the power structures.
But, in the end. “We gotta’ fight.”
Curt Doolittle
The Propertarian Institute
L’viv Ukraine
Guilty al. right pleasures…Jim Giles, Tom Metzger, Martin Lindstedt, Harold Covington, Pastor James Manning and Brother Nathaniel Kapner.
The State of the Alt-Right Bowel Movement shown in a picture:
Thank you Charles. I appreciate you mentioning me as a “guilty pleasure” of the Alt-Right, and especially for putting in Harold Covington’s name as a “buffer” between the negro pastor and the jew priest. However, I prefer to call myself a “White Supremacist” as opposed to a “White Nationalist” because I think jews are the Spawn of Satan and that the non-whites are the 6th Day Beasts of the Field, i.e. animals without souls or literally in the case of jews and mongrel abominations to be born evil and thus impossible to be trained or tamed to be something other than what they are. As someone born and raised in Central South Dakota, if you let any of them live they are to be put on reservations where they can live in their own ethnostate as they did before the White Man found and defeated them. Likewise, having gotten in the Bowel Movement as a militia leader advocating revolution against ZOG/Babylon the Third and Final just after Waco, I’m not really a member of the “Alt-Right,” cf this poster for my podcast — “The Movement Turd”.
https://anaannblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/cover.jpg?w=842
I think that the biggest problem we have is not so much the negroes, gooks, beaners or even the jews, but stupid ZOGling whigger ass-clowns who allow such alien vermin to run wild amongst us. This is my first parody song — Whigger Problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KuQ4Pls_yQ
I think that David Duck’s sole interest in running for US Senate is for fools to give the Duck $250,000 in campaign funds. I have run for US Senate three times and for governor twice on minor and major party primary ballots and lost with less than $500 spent of my own money. My current write-in candidacy for governor is to demonstrate that there are no such thang as open free fair honest [s]elections — not when “White Supremacists” can be barred from the ballot. Therefore, anyone voting write-in for me or not voting at all has no moral or legal obligation to obey federal, Missouri state and local law or pay taxes to these regimes because they have refused to keep and maintain a “republican” i.e. representational democratic form of government, and that maybe they have the right — duty even — to overthrow this false repub[l]ic and to set up a military racial religious military dictatorship — or ten thousand of them as racial ethnostates. The battle cry of Revolution in 1776 of “No taxation without Representation” holds triply true 240 years later in 2016 when this Mighty Evil Empire of one-third of a billion ZOGlings is less than 100 million pure whigger. Let the Civil War II commence.
http://whitenationalist.org/useful/audio/TMT/LP/Florian_Geyer.mp3
To explain the picture further Bryan Reo / “SwordBrethren” in coonjunction with Baal Finck, Eli[ar] James, and other baalist See-Eye Dentists took down a dozen Church web pages, sued me in federal kort for $10.75 million and when that bogus case was dismissed, has filed three Lake County Court lawsuits against myself, Roxie, and my Church and got a bogus stalking restraining order against myself as well. Bryan Reo is the current “law clerk” for Kyle Barstow, and has filed 45 lawsuits in Lake County and twenty in federal court in the past three years in which Reo and Barstow abuse legal process against the NRA, AC Nielsen, Starkist Tuna, Progressive Soup and small white family businesses. And you expect me to be all buddies with the Mattoids, be they Chaimbach and Parrott going ass-to-mouth with Attorney Barstow? The only thing I regret about telling the truth about Bryan Reo and others is that Bryan Reo got fired from its job at the North Perry Nuclear Power Plant as a “white” supremacist and thus Cleveland doesn’t glow in the dark.
http://bryanreo-lawsuits.xyz/ReovLindstedt_15CR001590/2016/Sept16/14Sept16/14Sept16_Pre-Trial_ML.pdf
ZOG/Babylon the Third and Final is doomed. But the Bowel Movement doesn’t provide “leadership” but only a platform. Now that we have an “Alt-Right” Internet media, what then to do with it? Fill it with frog pictures just as Hillary’s senile old whiggress cat ladies do with cat pictures? What good is having a platform if it is nothing other than jew and mamzer crap?
This is why I advocate my Ten Thousand Warlords Program because civil war and breakup of the Mighty Evil Empire is inevitable and having these local survivalist leaders having no scruples about ethnic cleansing under color of White Christian religion and nationalism is desirable and necessary.
There are some bowel Movement leaders I can work with like Greg Johnson and Harold Covington who I made peace with in March 2009. And I can make a promise to Andrew Anglin to not ridicule him until the election is over on Daily Stormer if Anglin allows me to campaign for Governor of Missouri on his forum. But most of the bowel Movement are nothing other than mongrels, jews, ZOGbots, criminals, perverts and idiots without anything good to say about them whatsoever and to whom I have a duty to expose on my Church web pages. I seen better while falsely imprisoned in the NutHouse.
Hail Victory!!!
Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
(Disqualified LibberToon) Write-In Candidate for Governor of Missouri
http://whitenationalist.org/forum
“Vox is not even white”
Isn’t he? I thought he was just one of those “American Indians” whose last non-White ancestor was twenty generations ago. Does that still make him non-White?
I understand the reasoning behind your caste system, but seriously, placing Stormfront above Jared Taylor and Peter Brimelow? C’mon now. Shouldn’t intellectual quality count for something? The fact is, some people are anti-Semitic or White nationalist because they’re just cranks. Not because they’ve done the research like Kevin MacDonald or Andrew Joyce.
As for RAMZPAUL, I think he belongs in the top rank. Yes he’s stated that he’s not a White Nationalist, but his objection is just to the term, not to the idea it represents. Ramz calls himself just a ‘nationalist’ because he thinks it’s more appropriate, but he believes in White nations, so that makes him a ‘White nationalist’ by default.
Also, I’d like to propose a few more names for the top caste: Irmin Vinson, F. Roger Devlin, Kerry Bolton, and Tomislav Sunic.
For the second caste, we have some good ones in Canada: Ricardo Duchesne (of the Council of European Canadians) and Dan Murray (Immigration Watch Canada).
Also, I think many were expecting to see Stefan Molyneux in the third caste.
Overall, a good article, though.
Here is my take on the JQ:
Most children of single mothers do not wind up in prison. But most inmates are the children of single mothers. Make sense? Just think about it for a minute.
Most Jews are quite normal; they do not seek to undermine white society. Yet out of all those who do try to subvert white society, most are Jews.
And this is why the JQ is so slippery. I hope this clarifies things.
This is essentially how I see the matter.
I don’t know how Hitler can be considered anything related to the Alt-Right, given that he was to the left of FDR on pretty much every single position.
For some interesting information on the left/right paradigm look up “Jacob Schiff” and “Schiff, Kuhn and Loeb” and their contribution (along with other investment banking houses) of financial support to bolshevism.
Do you also believe that private gun ownership was illegal in NS Germany?
Deplorable Gaiseric,
Are you a product of the American post WW2 Hollywood based understanding of reality?
Regarding your comment Hitler “was to the left of FDR on pretty much every single position”, pleased define what you believe “to the left” means. Does this mean he loved the German people more than he loved shekels … or are you simply a Fox News or Glenn Beck devotee, easily triggered by the word “Socialism”?
Would it be easier for you if the NSDAP was a “Social Nationalist” party, instead of a “National Socialist” party?
Yes, of course. I am a product of the Jewish/Leftist indoctrination, which is why I believe that National SOCIALISTS are on the Left, instead of the Right.
That makes a ton of sense.
Good Lord.
Where is some Neoreaction?
I mean does not your meta level lack Social Metter?
A few commenters have referenced Vox day’s”alt west and alt white” post, which was quite off the mark.
After he refused to update it after being corrected on several points, it was clear that the post was an outpouring of butthurt at being trolled by several Twitterers with nazi anime girl avatars. So I wouldn’t hold it against him unless he tries to point to it in the future as being worth anything.
His alt right tenets are quite good, however
Please forgive the TL;DR comment. But, in my opinion, this article highlights the greatest danger to our movement, so far.
This is a very good article breaking-down the various divisions of allies that the Alt-Right could use to further the movement.
However, dividing the “Alt-Right” itself into “castes” and expanding the brand will unquestionably, and rapidly, destroy the Alt-Right as a White Nationalist movement.
This is not about whether or not the Alt-Right is open to making allies and alliances with different groups — this is about strategic branding. This is about the “Alt-Right” name and banner, itself.
As of right now, the Alt-Right is an explicitly White Nationalist movement. It has come to be understood as “White Nationalist” by Alt-Righters and our enemies alike. This is the overwhelming consensus. Greg Johnson’s declaration that “The Alt-Right means White Nationalism — or it means nothing at all” has now become internalized by practically every member of the Alt-Right.
You said: “The Alt Right needs to be turned 100% into a vehicle for our message.”
It already has. The welcoming of others to share the “Alt-Right” banner destroys that.
You said: “While we pursue our goal of fully occupying the helm of the Alt Right, we must recognize that those who are not fully on board with all of our principles can nonetheless be considered a part of the Alt Right”
We already occupy the helm of the Alt Right. Welcoming others who don’t share our principles, and in many cases are diametrically opposed to our principles, means we will be sharing the helm of the Alt-Right with countless other ideologies. And they’ll vastly outnumber us.
The Alt-Right is defined by White Nationalism. Right now. Everyone knows it.
Which is why this definition is currently, and intentionally, under attack by several, high-profile, subversive players. Don’t help them.
Those who don’t see the redefining of the term “Alt-Right” as an important issue simply have no concept of the importance of branding. Our enemy understands its importance very well. And there are several, high-profile, self-promoters who have a very clear understanding of the importance of branding. Which is why they’re moving heaven and earth to take the banner of “Alt-Right” and co-opt it for their own various movements.
Interestingly, the “intellectual” segment of the Alt-Right has proven to be much less tactically astute on this issue than the front-line fighters and Nazi Shitlords™. This is most likely because the intellectuals are much more focused on ideology and the esoteric nuances of the movement as opposed to the online Nazi Shitlords™ who directly engage the enemy on social media twenty-four hours a day.
Many of our “intellectuals” seem to take the position that it’s not that important if the name “Alt-Right” is stolen or co-opted by enemies or entryists, as long as we maintain our principles under some new banner.
That position is strategically absurd. It would be like Coca-Cola allowing a competing soft-drink company steal the name “Coca-Cola”, which has become an international, household name, and say: “Well, it’s OK that they stole our brand. We’ll just call it ‘Happy-Pop’ instead. It doesn’t matter as long as our soda maintains the same taste.”
“Alt-Right” has become an internationally-recognized brand that only fools would carelessly dilute or abandon.
Nazi Shitlords™ know the importance of branding, terminology, and propaganda. They use these weapons every day. And the term “Alt-Right” has become their most powerful weapon in attacking the enemy, and recruiting the masses into White Nationalism at an exponential rate.
Nazi Shitlords™ have worked tirelessly to build the name “Alt-Right” into a powerful, universally-recognized brand of “White Nationalism”. The Alt-Right has been launched into the national spotlight, not because some Alt-Right intellectual finally wrote that one, magical article on Evola, but because an army of Alt-Right Nazi Shitlords™, guided by The Daily Stormer, TRS, InfoStormer, Radio Aryan, and /pol/, have been mercilessly attacking our enemies on Twitter and social media.
Without The Daily Stormer and TRS there would have been no “Alt-Right” speech by Hillary. It’s that simple.
The name “Alt-Right” has become the most powerful brand of White Nationalism in over 70 years. And it happened almost by accident. The stars aligned. It may never happen again.
By welcoming so-called, potential allies, most of whom are vehemently opposed to our core tenets of White Nationalism and the JQ, to share the banner of “Alt-Right”, we’re not only destroying our most powerful weapon and brand, we’re literally handing it over to possible enemies to wield against us.
“Oy vey! How dare those virulently anti-Semitic, White Nationalist Alt-Righters criticize Jews! We Jews are the most important leaders, thinkers, and funders of the Alt-Right! We demand that they be expelled from the movement! We vastly outnumber them anyway — isn’t that right, my civic-Nationalist, libertarian, goyim friends?!”
Don’t think that will happen? Look to American Renaissance as a cautionary tale.
The number one, unspoken, and spoken, rule of the Alt-Right has been: No Jews allowed in the Alt-Right. — Rule #1 must stand.
The “No Jews” rule is our only protection against the inevitable attempts at Jewish entryism. We’ve watched every powerful movement in recent history fall under the control of the (((enemy))), and we don’t intend to allow it to happen this time.
“Rule Number One” has been made unquestionably clear to every Jew who has attempted to declare himself “Alt-Right” so far.
When (((Josua Seidel))) wrote an article in the Jewish Daily Forward entitled “I’m a Jew, and I’m a Member of the Alt-Right”, he was universally and mercilessly attacked by the Alt-Right until the comments had to be completely removed from the article.
The Daily Kos wrote about this incident in an article entitled “Jewish guy declares himself Alt-Right. Alt-right promptly informs him they’d prefer him dead.”
This exact same process has been repeated by the Alt-Right Nazi Shitlords™ against every Jew who has attempted to “greatest ally” his way into the movement. I can’t help but smile just thinking about it.
The most prominent Jews who were handed their hats include Milo and Loren Feldman. Milo now openly admits that he’s not allowed in the Alt-Right, though he’s still attempting to co-opt the name through further chicanery.
After Loren Feldman got the Alt-Right door slammed in his face, he immediately began an ongoing, Twitter melt-down revealing his true feelings about the goyim. He now constantly attacks Alt-Righters as low-IQ, goyim pawns of the Jews, and much worse. And he constantly brags about Jewish supremacy and fact that Jews control the world.
But, under the big-tent, multi-tier strategy, the Loren Feldmans are immediately designated as members of the Alt-Right, despite the fact that they would love to throw all of us into gulags.
Now entryists no longer have to work at infiltrating the Alt-Right — they’ve been invited in!
Opening the brand guarantees that the Alt-Right will be swamped by everyone, from (((neo-cons))) to AnCaps, declaring themselves “Alt-Right” with no push-back, because “Muh big tent”. And it will lead to a rapid purge of those “undesirable, White Nationalist, anti-Semite racists” from the tent.
Ask the John Birch Society and Joe Sobran how this works. Oh, you can’t. They’re both dead.
If this article had simply delineated our potential allies into separate, uniquely-named movements instead of “Alt-Right tiers”, this article would have become a “must-share” across the Alt-Right and beyond. But, as it stands, any attempt to unfurl a “big tent” to engulf every potential ally, and even enemy, under the “Alt-Right” brand, must be mercilessly attacked.
NB4 “Purity spiraling”.
(Note: “Purity spiraling” is a term used by individuals who are upset that their particular degeneracy, weakness, race, etc. is being excluded from the Alt-Right. As in: “What do you mean I can’t be a member of the Alt-Right as a libertarian, gay Jew who has sex with Blacks?! Stop purity-spiraling!”)
Not allowing ideologically divergent movements and individuals to call themselves “Alt-Right” has absolutely nothing to do with refusing to form friendly coalitions with allies. It’s simply an insistence that those other movements use their own names instead of “Alt-Right”.
For example: Milo, Lauren Southern, Gavin McInnes, Sargon of Akkad, Christina Hoff Sommers, Paul Joseph Watson, etc. already have their own movement with its own name. They’re called “Cultural-Libertarians”. Milo and his partner, Allum Bokhari, have written, extensively, about it in Breitbart.
“Rise of the Cultural Libertarians”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/24/rise-of-the-cultural-libertarians/
But, the Alt-Right and Cultural-Libertarians are diametrically opposed on almost every core issue — with only occasional, ideological overlap on the fringes.
Cultural-Libertarians are just a bunch of libertine progressives who feel that SJWs and Muslims are infringing on their desire to be as uninhibited and hedonistic as they want to be.
Cultural-Libertarians even include Bill Maher in their ranks. BILL FREAKING MAHER!
Cultural-Libertarians:
– Civic Nationalist
– Anti-Racist
– Pro-Degeneracy
– Pro-Israel (Muh Greatest Ally)
– Pro-Jew
– Pro-Feminist (Muh 19th Amendment)
– Libertine
– “America is a Proposition Nation”
Alt-Right:
– White Nationalist
– Race Realists
– Anti-Degeneracy
– Anti-Israel (Our Greatest Parasite)
– Jew-Wise
– Patriarchy
– Traditionalists
– Defenders of Christendom (White Western Civilization)
Milo has been attempting to co-opt the Alt-Right name, and divert our momentum into his own movement, for some time now.
Listen to Milo’s description of the Alt-Right every time he’s interviewed or gives a speech. He’s not describing the Alt-Right. He’s describing his Cultural-Libertarian movement.
If Milo was being honest, he would say: “Hey. We want our Cultural-Libertarian movement to be allies with your Alt-Right movement because we believe a few of the same things.”
But instead, Milo gives speech after speech in which he describes his Cultural-Libertarian movement and calls it the “Alt-Right”.
Milo is attempting to co-opt the momentum and banner of the Alt-Right and turn it into his floundering, Cultural-Libertarian movement.
Vox Day is currently attempting his own subversive version of redefining the Alt-Right to include himself, and to purge the Alt-Right’s staunchly White Nationalist core.
These hostile attempts to redefine the term “Alt-Right” must be fought mercilessly — not invited.
So far, the Alt-Right’s success as a White Nationalist movement has not been due to the idea that it’s a “big tent” that unfurls to engulf the masses. It’s due to the fact that the Alt-Right has been a powerful, unchangeable, resolute, stone fortress that attracts the masses through incessant, high-profile attacks on our ideological enemies.
People are naturally attracted to strength, permanence, and unapologetic, aggressive force.
People want to belong to exclusive clubs with firm, unique rules that every member follows. It’s tribal. People will change their behavior and their entire ideology to become a member of the club if the “social-proof” indicates that everyone else wants to join too. It’s the reason that so many excluded individuals are trying to redefine the rules to be included in the club.
If you go around telling every Tom, Dick, and Milo that they’re already members of the club, what motivation to they have to change their behavior and worldview?
The Alt-Right must remain immovable on its raison d’etre of White Nationalism. And remain unapologetic about its immediate focus on throwing off the yoke of Jewish control from White Nations.
Categorizing our allies, under their own unique names, by degree of ideological overlap with the Alt-Right, is a worthwhile pursuit. But inviting them to share the Alt-Right banner, that we’ve spent millions of man-hours to build and define, is no less than suicide for our movement.
The big tent is where political movements go to die in the shade.
This is so good I am promoting it to the front page. Congratulations. You are in the Trainspotter club.
Thank you, Greg.
I’m truly honored to have an article published in the prestigious and indispensable Counter Currents.
Counter Currents is the site that many Alt-Righters invariably link to when asked by potential converts for information that expounds on the philosophical and ideological underpinnings of our movement.
Once again, thank you Greg. — And thank you for your tireless work on behalf of our people.
It is a great comment. Counter Currents is essentially a White Nationalist think tank, which is one of its greatest characteristics. The purpose of my article was to be a thought experiment. I proposed an idea, some liked it, some reviled it. Fash here thought that some of the ideas I suggested could potentially be harmful, and I’m glad he highlighted them and explained why he felt as he did. If his comment–which is now an article–ultimately precipitates strategies that ENSURE the Alt Right becomes and remains all about OUR message….then all I can say is y’all are welcome for me being Fash’s catalyst.
Judging the Fattest Hogs & Filling the Slop Trough of the Alt-Right
I took me a World Religions class. They said that the Aryans loaded up the ox-carts sometime between 2000 to 1500 BC like the Goths and Amurrikwans and set out to conquer the continent. Their Sky-god Brahmin becum a Hindu god and they set up a caste (varna-color) system to prevent Peter Dunkin from running wild — and failed. Because, as Dr. Robert Frenz noted, “You can’t stop Peter Dunkin.”
So I’ve never paid much attention to the vaporings of whiggers in the bowel Movement who think they are smart and shit, given that they are attributing good sense to dotheaded mamzers who passed all manner of laws to prevent their own unruly peckers from “pecking”. I think that a better case can be made of who is who in the Bowel Movement and what is theys’ rank by what I observed as a small boy out on our East-River Ranch in Hughes County South Dakota when my father fed six pigs when my mother was squeezing out my brother.
The Lindstedts cum from the Helsingborg District in SW Sweden as did the Svensons/Samuelsons who were West River. The cornbelt ended 100 miles east around Mitchell, but these Anglo-Danes named Hapney who lived as neighbors a mile south of us had four to six sows and us Lindstedts got the six runts which we would feed and give back the Hapneys the two smallest hogs and keep four for butchering in November. It was truly a land of beef and milk and butter and lard and bacon.
When my mother was slopping the pigs. they had no discipline and would maul all over her while she pleaded, “down pigs.” Half the slop was spilled on the ground and didn’t make it to the trough. But when my father has to slop the pigs, these smart, undisciplined animals rushed him with the pail. My father was made of sterner stuff. Being crippled, he would swing his heavy hickory cane like a polo club upon the tender snout of the biggest pig and stopped them all dead in their tracks. Then he poured the slop into the trough and didn’t have to lay into any of them after the first morning feeding. The pigs behaved as good as pigs can behave until a week later when my mother resumed her chores of milking two cows and slopping the pigs twice a day, and they got back to acting as usual.
Now you would think that the smaller pigs would get nothing, but such was not the case. They all got each according to their undisciplined appetite. Sorta like a mixed-economy of capitalism and marxism.
So rather than cumpare the Bowel Movement hierarchy to some dothead mamzers’ notions, I think we should cumpare it to warlords and hungry hogs. Why the biggest pig is Andre Anglin, who got the most heft/herd of tard. The runt of runts is Colin Twinker-Liddell, who is all jealous. Sometimes the smaller pigs would bite the crap-encrusted tails of the bigger pigs out of sheer frustration. Then there would be much squealing, but never any real murderous assault as pigs are lazy and they get even lazier as they grow into hogs.
Now Colin censored my comment about William Pierce getting $400,000 in Order Loot and Pierce being more of a merchant and ZOGbot running an Elohim City for CreaTards than a Revolutionary. Also Larry Murray has been displaced in the affections of Colin in favor of “Kikester Rapist,” but then again $permFart is now the Happy Yapping Ground of CornCobb, Buffalo WhiggerSwill, Kevin Alfred Strom and Hadding the Loveless KAS-Fluffing Meercat. I’m still banned for life on $permFart even though Meerkat Mark & Klunt Downey were kicked off by Don Black and migrated to Baal Finck’s “Papist-Preterist No Devil” Finckelsheeniea and Billy Roper is on Eliar jewseph Stalin Kutz-Putz-November James’ Separdick [j]Eurofart Nutwerk. I’ve been banned from Linder’s Greater Free-Range Colostomy Bag & Tard Corral since the Christmas Coup of 2004, and that ain’t gonna change even though TraitorGlenn Miller is on death row in Kansas, where the formerly drunken Lumbee Melungeon’s lungs and liver have gotten an indefinite reprieve. At least there isn’t with you “intellectual” ass-clowns a dismissed federal lawsuit and three current Lake County Ohio lawsuits ad counter-suits over me exposing Bryan Reo / SoredMamzer and Baal Finck and Eliar James and Kyle Barstow as mamzers and jews and ZOGbots.
Rather than cumpare who is who in our bowel Movement by the notions of dead reincarnated-or-not whiggers who let Peter Dunkin undo theysselfs into dothead muddumb, we should judge by the objective Swedish farmer matter of which hog is the biggest and fattest and gets the most slop and who has the most wealth of herds of Tard/Troll.
Disclosure: I’m trying to pull in my horns and cut a deal with Andrew Anglin so he will let me plug my write-in candidacy for Governor of Missouri since as a “White Supremacist” — after all the ass-clownery of “White Nationalists” I much prefer to look like an overt racist — because thanks to TraitorGlenn Miller and Linder and the Republican, Democrat, LibberToon and CONstipation Party no “White Supremacist” can run on a Missouri primary ballot at the federal, state or local level since 2006. Which is fine by me as I don’t believe in open free fair honest [s]elections either and want to help bring about 10,000 military dictatorships over 20 million ex-whiggers by Ten Thousand Warlords. Our Bowel Movement couldn’t cobble together a virtual outhouse of a political party, but we do know how to mess things up and troll.
I want to use the Stormer to plug my writings and campaign litterature and videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccVqCbD9mDI
In return I pledge to not ridicule or insult Andrew Anglin or even David the Duck or anyone else in the Bowel Movement other than Colin Twinker-Bell Liddell and Kikester Rapist and only if you let me do so.
Hail Victory!!!
Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
(Disqualified LibberToon) Write-In Candidate for Governor of Missouri
http://whitenationalist.org/forum
Chateau Heartiste deserves a mention. And don’t tell me he is a misogynist. He has respect for any woman who meets the traditional definition of a lady. As for the trashy women, his philosophy is, if you are going to act like a slut, I’m gonna treat you like one.
This is a good general categorization. I hold white nationalist and antisemitic (really the two are the same since typically Jews are not biologically or spiritually “white”) as the two bare minimum stances to be “one of us.” The others contribite in their own way, but we must remember to criticize those things we find lacking in them. This is what drives the radicalization process forward.
I think it needs to be added: Neoreaction / NRx. Social matter is an excellent resource.
Neoreactionaries are of 3 types (they call this the ” trichotomy “):
1) Techno-Commercialists, includes Neocameralists. These people are not alt-right. Their view is that the solution for the world is Singapore writ large. These people are also a minority, perhaps 20% of Neoreaction.
2) Ethnonationalists. Self-explanatory. These people are White Ethnonationalists.
3) Theonomists / Religious Traditionalists / Radical Traditionalists / Throne-and-Altar Reactionaries.
Groups 2) and 3) usually mix together and collaborate. There is huge overlap. In regards to the JQ, NRx would fall either in Second Tier or First Tier, depending from person to person (a lot of them Second Tier though).
I am not NRx. I am more or less a traditional old rightist (of the Romanian Legionnaire kind) but I find I have quite a lot in common with Reactionaries and Identitarian type New Rightists, rather than only with 1488ers.
In regards to JQ I agree with everything written here but I say you guys don’t go far enough on focusing ONLY on Jews. Yes, what you’ve said is all true but Europe (and other hite places) minus foreigners and Jewish-inspired ideologies still doesn’t solve everything. A lot, and I mean a WHOLE lot of the Enlightenment intellectual edifice must me questioned and deconstructed, not just the Jewish-inspired bits. In other words, I feel your brand of *fashism is not right-wing enough.
I meant “other *White places”. Sorry for the typo.
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