Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 363
Should We “Trust the Science”?

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1. DarkPlato says:

   August 18, 2021 at 5:27 am

   I think Woes is right—there’s simply a fanaticism on the left that the right can’t seem to match.  The right will never burn down cities, let murders go unprosecuted, lie incessantly, in order to achieve their ends.  The right ultimately is committed to fair play and Right in its other sense.  In this way the left is like some fanatic religious cult.
2. E Whitney says:

   September 22, 2021 at 7:04 am

   The group is sounding like conspiracy theorists when it comes to covid and vaccines – rhombencephalon trust this week?   Yes, “This is science, trust it” gets abused, but especially so from the media or science writers who dress up the findings for their narrative.  But vaccines and immunity to viruses is far more settled science than say, racial genetics.  Someone quoted the virus as only 1% lethal.  Well that depends on your age group, sonny.  And even if you are a 1 percenter, would you cross the street if it was 1% chance of becoming paralyzed in an auto accident? Would you eat that brand hamburger if there was a 1% change of permanent impotence?  Do you know if you have the genetic Toll receptor variant that predisposes to severe infection even if a robust young man?

    

   We have been giving hepatitis B and measles vaccines for decades and yet these are far less lethal viruses.  We generally require the far less effective influenza vaccine every year for health care workers and older folks.  Yet no major anti-vax protests except from ex-porn stars still believing they cause autism.  If the vaccines are so bad, shouldn’t the left wing media now have been decimated by them?  It’s true that some of the stats, such as “excess mortality” in a year are too glibly explained as solely due to COVID.  However the stats on mortality with proven COVID are not easy to dismiss.

    

   Greg did a nice retelling of the germ theory contribution of Semmelweis.  But if Semmelweis were alive today would’nt you imagine he would be against germs and viruses?  Greg explained Semmelweis’s mental deterioration as trauma for his ideas not being accepted.  This is debatable and there have also been credible theories he had neurosyphilis (he hung with prostitutes, excuse me, ‘sex workers’) or Alzheimer’s Disease (indeed the first famous case presented as ‘psychiatric’ and Alzheimer was an alienist/psychiatrist).  The ideas circulating about this website are broadly rejected by the mainstream and I suspect most writers are not suffering breakdowns and blogging from asylums.

    

    

   While it is true that there are rare brilliant discoveries initially dismissed as crackpot ideas, most crackpot ideas are indeed crap and we selectively remember and celebrate the exceptions while forgetting the dustbin of “had it wrong” ideas.  It also shows that science and medicine are more conservative than you often think.  But it runs both ways and science can be “trendy”, such as some thinking that the microbiome explains everything.

    

   I’ve heard some of the speakers say that a vulnerability of any movement is too much fracturing and aspiring to too much purity on sameness for every idea.  It is bewildering then that they want to add another uphill battle on issues like vaccines, which left and right wingers have both been solidly behind for decade.  The hysteria and scolding of the left have put a bad tase in the mouth of many on the right, who have lost their cool.  I suggest emulating Asia a bit before they stomp all over they west:  they mask up for colds and keep on with their work instead of getting hooked on opioids and looking for disability checks.  Get your vaccine and stay strong.

    

   1. HungarianFashionista says:

      October 30, 2021 at 7:38 am

      “he hung with prostitutes”

      Evidence?

      He probably contracted the disease from his patients, like most doctors at the time.

       

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