A new Pew Forum survey shows that fewer Americans call themselves Christian than ever before. Only sixty-five percent of Americans now say they’re Christian, a thirteen percent decline since 2007. Twenty-six percent of Americans say they’re religiously unaffiliated, a ten percent increase since 2007.
The majority of America is no longer Protestant, with forty-three percent claiming Protestant affiliation. In 2007, it was fifty-one percent. These people are not becoming Catholics, as the number of Americans who submit to Rome has declined to twenty from twenty-four percent in 2007. The majority of America also doesn’t regularly attend church anymore; just forty-five percent of respondents say they attend at least once a month.
This secularization trend is most pronounced among the young. A thin majority of millennials do not identify as Christian, and only thirty-five percent of them attend church at least once a month. One can easily imagine Christianity’s further decline among Generation Z.
These poll numbers shouldn’t surprise observant readers. For years, fewer people across the West have stopped attending church and stopped identifying as Christian. America was once seen as the exception to this development, but that’s no longer the case.
The Dissident Right should take note of this study and remind ourselves that we must keep our message secular. We limit ourselves if we insist on explicitly tying our movement to Christianity. That’s not to say that Christianity’s decline is a good thing. It’s just a fact that we have to recognize. Like Nietzsche saying “God is dead,” this is not cause for celebration, but a demand to move on and create something new.
Some within our ranks argue that we have to return the West to God and Christianity, and that this is inseparable from our cause. This argument requires identitarians to become zealous Christians – particularly Catholic – and expel all the pagans, atheists, and heretics from our ranks. Christian imagery and messages must inform our rhetoric and we must fight for causes that are not related to preserving our identity, such as abortion.
I have previously argued that this is a misguided idea because every Christian institution is hostile toward identitarians and would sooner become a mosque than ally with us. Most Christian institutions actively promote open borders, Third World overpopulation, and anti-nationalism. They are not our friends and they will only come to an understanding with us when we grow in power and influence. Identitarians are not there yet.
But even if there were some Christian institutions that weren’t hostile to us, we would still alienate many potential followers. The devoutly religious are older; those who are not are younger. We want to reach the young, and the average Zoomer is not going to be won over by heavy-handed religious lectures. They’ve already lost interest in the faith, or were never even raised in one. “Racists” telling them that they’re damned to hell if they have sex before marriage isn’t a winning pitch.
The Christian faiths that most appeal to the Dissident Right are usually outside the mainstream. There’s nothing wrong with that, but it would add to our “kookiness.” The Dissident Right’s racial views already put it outside of the mainstream; adding quasi-sedevacantism or Orthodox fundamentalism only further ghettoizes it.
Of course, our personal choice of faith should not be based on optics or what appeals to the masses. You should choose the faith to which you feel attached, whether by tradition or personal choice. But, as a movement, we have to understand that traditional Catholicism and Orthodoxy are alien to most white Americans. They’re also communities that will not accept association with our racial views and will easily condemn us if we became too tied to their faith.
If we wanted to appeal to a wide constituency, it would be smarter to adopt evangelical Christianity than traditional Catholicism. White evangelicals are the most likely to support immigration restrictions and tough enforcement of immigration laws. Eighty percent of them voted for Trump. A majority of them say mass immigration threatens the historic American nation and that a majority-minority America is a negative development. White Catholics are less likely to hold these views.
But few on the Dissident Right find Evangelicalism appealing due to the Christian Zionism, tacky aesthetics, and silly denials of science. Younger and less religiously-inclined whites find Evangelicalism the most unappealing form of Christianity as well. We would appeal to a certain demographic, but few identitarians are Evangelical, and we would turn off the demographic most open to our cause. We want young, smart, and “hip” whites. Identitarian Evangelicalism would not accomplish that task. Additionally, the Evangelical institutions would rush to disavow us just as quickly as the Catholic Church and Orthodox bishops have.
This new survey should also disabuse integralist conservatives of their fantasies. Integralists are “post-liberal” conservatives who want the Catholic Church to have a greater role in state affairs. They believe the time for liberal conservatism is over and the Right’s future depends on submission to Rome. The integralists, like New York Post opinion editor Sohrab Ahmari and the staff of First Things, make good points about Conservative Inc. and the need for something new. Nevertheless, they are firmly cucked and melt down over sensible racial views. Some of them even want open borders in order to flood America with “good Catholics” from the Third World. However, the numbers show that mass immigration won’t create the Catholic imperium. A majority of Hispanics are no longer Catholic, and only a slim majority (fifty-one percent) attend church monthly. That’s not quite the devout masses the integralists promised who will replace the WASP heretics.
Many integralists claim that the young are returning to traditional religion, when in reality they are turning away from religion altogether. Their aversion to race means they won’t address the real issues, and they’ll try to redirect the Right’s energy away into frivolous matters. It won’t appeal to Middle America – but on the plus side, it won’t cost its advocates their jobs either. It will be the respectable – yet harmless – alternative to the Dissident Right.
That’s why it’s best to maintain a secular position. We’re not anti-Christian, militant pagans, or anything like that. We simply emphasize what unites right-thinking whites over what divides us. Not everyone has the same faith or religious views, and most younger whites are now areligious. The lack of religion and anomie in modern America will lead them to consider identitarianism. Our message should be tailored for these young souls, not hitting them over the head with diatribes about the satanic nature of Vatican II.
All whites who believes that we should assert our ethnic interests and take back our birthright should be welcome in our movement, regardless of creed. Our fight is a secular struggle, not a religious war. We should appeal to as many whites as possible. Christian zealotry won’t do that.
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We should keep in our lane. Render what is Caesar’s unto Caesar and what is God’s unto God.
But some of us have trouble making the distinction as to what belongs to whom.
Religion is good for generating asabiyyah between men, generating prudence among women, quelling inner turmoil and serving as a moral reserve. Everything else is Caesar’s.
Mr. Hampton,
Nice article.
You said only a slim majority of Hispanics attend church monthly. Is that a typo on your part? Did you mean “weekly” as that is a requirement for Catholics; at least it was when I was a little boy in the 1960s. Missing Mass on Sunday was a mortal sin.
“Our message should be tailored for these young souls, not hitting them over the head with diatribes about the satanic nature of Vatican II.”
It might just be my lack of knowledge on the subject, but can somebody redpill me on why it would be such a great thing to return to a Latin Mass? Virtually nobody would be able to understand it, which would lead to even more people leaving the church. I cannot understand how doing masses in English or other localized languages makes the church somehow more “degenerate” or whatever (it’s degenerate for many other reasons, of course.) NB4 anyone says “So learn Latin then!” the reality is that few people have the time or patience for that in their 20s, 30s, or older. That would require a revamping of the education system to make young children study Latin, which isn’t going to happen.
Voryn, it’s all about the aesthetics, the pomp & ceremony & air of “mystery”. In simple terms, it’s just “cooler” & gives people the feels, makes it all seem so much grander, more profound & less mundane than if it was in a common language that most could understand. In fact, some contend that the whole point of it being in Latin was to keep the untutored congregants sitting in the pews baffled & non-questioning.
That is not correct. When the Latin Tridentine mass was used, it is true that people didn’t understand the words but they knew certainly knew what the mass was all about. Their priests also explained the mass to them.
Unlike today, where the priest talks about the current news events instead of the gospels, and hence people no longer understand the church, and also why many don’t go anymore.
People want to know what spiritual life lessons their presider has to offer. If they can’t understand him, they aren’t going to walk away with much. They’ll prefer to listen to Joel Osteen. At least that’s my opinion
The only life lessons a Christian needs are the 10 commandments.
Latin is preferred because the sacraments comprise the following items:
Form = words (Latin preferred)
Matter = i.e., bread/wine/olive oil
Sacraments were established in the Church with the Form said in Latin. After Vatican II, Paul VI okayed vernacular, but this was not officially promulgated, anyway, hence the confusion in the church. Many Trad Cat. priests maintain that only when the form is in Latin, that the sacrament actually takes place.
Search Fr. Gregory Hesse (RIP) on youtube. He was super based and redpilled if you want more info. on Trad Catholics.
This video is where he talks specifically about the validity of the sacraments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKtO1Vq9lFA
Naturalism, Paganism, Christianity: all three stem from a common ancient Aryan fountain head: in the various tongues: Arta, Asha, Arete, Order, Ordo, Right, Rta, Wyrd, Urd, etc.
Arta -> Zoroastrianism -> Judaism* -> Christianity**. When personified, Arta is roughly the God of the stoics and theologians.
Rta, Wyrd -> Paganism, in Vedic literature Rta was held to be above even the gods.
Arete, Art, Order -> Naturalism. Heraclitus concept of Logos, which is the tandem concept to arta, as we say “law and order”.
Why were we fighting again? Oh yes, the Enemy keeps our history hidden from us
because a people without a past is a people without a future.
* Yes, Judaism is an Achaemenid hoax that was enshrined as holy writ by the Maccabees.
** In a similar manner Christianity was a hoax fostered by the Flavians, especially Josephus, later enshrined in the time of Constantine as holy writ.
You could do a series of PhD theses on this, I’m just giving you the broad brush strokes.
A good article with much sensible advice. Our battle is primarily secular in nature, although many in our ranks are also motivated by ‘natural justice’ and ‘morality’, particularly as these concepts relate to the proper treatment of an established nation and historical people.
The phrase “submission to Rome” sounds a bit corny, even 19th century. Many Catholics while wishing to remain faithful to the ‘old religion’ are distancing themselves from Rome. This trend is evident within the Catholic Eastern Rite Churches. Recently the Catholic Byzantine Bishop of Prague condemned the latest media events occurring in the Vatican.
The author raised some excellent political points but he was obviously inspired by the pope who is looking to the heathen indians up the Amazon for inspiration. (Google Amazon Synod). Funny how we are moving in lockstep with the church! Perhaps Robert could do a follow up?
We want young, smart, and “hip” whites
A few of us are 0 for 3. Can you recommend a cliff to jump off?
I’ve read your comments, Stronza. You’re smart. So that’s 1 out of 3 at least.
@nineofclubs & Harold. Thanks, kids!
I am surprised that “good looking” wasn’t included in that list of necessary qualities.
This was a thoughtful essay, but I digress that that we should be so quick to abandon our religious institutions. White Nationalism is only a fraction of the Dissident Right and another one of those fractions include Christian Nationalists. Not all of the religious institutions in the West are cucked in favor of J-worship or the pro-cultural Marxist drivel coming out of the Vatican. The Eastern Orthodox Church doesn’t recognize or answer to the Pope.
There are more similarities than differences between our movement and authentic Christianity as we’re both trying to preserve our culture. In essence, we’re both embattled in a cultural war and fighting the same enemy. Orthodox Christianity, which advocates Traditionalism and European-Russian culture, has come under assault in the United States by Marxist laws that are a blatant effort to destroy traditionalist institutions, such as the recent law forcing the ROC in New York State to accept LGBT – despite going against century-old Scripture and the word of God. The passing of HR 9, in addition to the proposed legislation by Beto O’Rourke calling for the removal of tax-exempt status from religious institutions that oppose LGBT and same-sex marriages is a clear indication that the left wants to completely eradicate Traditionalism from the West. Traditionalism and Nationalism go hand-to-hand. What we’re facing is the infancy of another Bolshevik Revolution – but this one will be in our backyard. Publicly advocating for authentic Christian values in Canada can land someone in jail for a couple of years – and it has. The re-election of Justin Trudeau isn’t going to improve this situation. The circus in Toronto is moving south and soon we’ll be forced to watch it in our backyards.
Orthodox Christianity not only preserves Traditionalism – but it also preserves our Ethnic-European Culture.
While our religious faiths and views divide us, our religious heritage and traditions unite us.
Major nationalist movements should therefore emphasize our common religious heritage rather than our personal views. In white countries this heritage is a combination of Paganism and Christianity in various forms and proportions.
Even if most young whites are non-religious today, Pagan/Christian traditions like Yule/Christmas still play an important role for the social cohesion and connect us to our common ancestors. And as a bonus they also separate us from our Muslim invaders.
I agree with this. White Nationalists should promote Christian cultural elements such as Easter and Christmas and frame them as White traditions and symbols of White togetherness – without promoting Christianity itself. Leave Christianity to the Church – we are not the Church, nor should we try to be.
Your ideology and true Christianity do not and never will go together.
The only solution is creation of another religion that has nothing to do with Christ.
It makes no sense whatsoever to think of others as “third world” and more animals than humans and love the neighbor, only if said neighbor is white.
The following is found in the bible. I have comments in parenthesis for context:
31When the Son of Man comes in His glory, He will sit on His glorious throne. 32All the nations will be gathered before Him (see here? ALL the nations? Yet, you want to be separatist now only to live with all the nations in the kingdom of God…what kingdom would allow a separatist in?)
…and He will separate the people one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will place the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. (Who do you think is going to be separated here? Wouldn’t it obviously be those who are anti-Christianity? Such as White Nationalism?)
34Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and you took Me in, 36I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you looked after Me, I was in prison and you visited Me.’ (White Nationalist call these people, animals, illegal immigrants, third world people, low I.Q people. I challenge anyone to eloquently explain how WN and Christianity go together?)
37Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You something to drink? 38When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39When did we see You sick or in prison and visit You?’ (When did WN did all that? Isn’t the movement the opposite of that or at least only aimed toward people who look white?)
40And the King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of Mine, you did for Me.’(Again, when did WN clothed, helped, housed, forgave, lifted up the stranger?)
41Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave Me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, I was naked and you did not clothe Me, I was sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’ (Still thinking you are part of the good guys?)
44And they too will reply, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’
45Then the King will answer, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for Me.’ (Clearly you are NOT the good guy)
46And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”(If at this point you still think WN and Christianity are reconcilable, I suggest you either learn how to read and interpret or look for a psychiatrist, seriously.)
Here is a response to your obviously FLAWED interpretation of the bible:
https://www.radioaryan.com/2018/03/the-orthodox-nationalist-statement.html
Listen to REAL priest say it like it is.
1 – The bible does not dispute interracial marriage so I won’t add or remove opinions to it like the “priest” does – Revelation 22:18 says: “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book”
2 – You seriously need someone to interpret something as simple as the following?
37Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You something to drink?
38When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You?
39When did we see You sick or in prison and visit You?’
40And the King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the LEAST of these brothers of Mine, you did for Me.
(When did WN did all that? Isn’t the movement the opposite of that or at least only aimed toward people who look white? Again, when did WN clothed, helped, housed, forgave, lifted up the stranger or the LEAST of humans?)
If the text above needs deep interpretation from some “religious authority” then I seriously question your intellectual caliber.
3 – There is a difference between religion and Christianity. What you shared is the former. Christy superseded all that.
You shall see who is right at the end of times. Christ or your “priest”.
God bless you.
Another article on the proper understanding of race:
https://www.rusjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Interrace.pdf
This was a brilliant essay and analysis. Thanks for sharing.
You don’t seem to understand “the body of Christ” that being the church or people practicing the Christian Faith. Every tribe is different because different parts of the body serve a different purpose. We were not all meant to be together. Coming together is a form of ancient Babylonian worship.
I had always envisioned the future of the dissident right in America as not unlike the broader Falangist movement in Spain… Something that always was made up of diverse forces of conservatives, ranging from monarchists to Catholiconationalists to outright Fascists to scurrilous uncles who only got political when they saw how terrible the commies are and want nothing to do with them.
I think you are right in the sense that we should definitely cooperate across our very many divides… but I would simply emphasize that yes, you all should go carve out your niche demographic and attract people to your particular brand, it’s just that we all have to be united together at the end of the day.
Great article & very thorough in spite of the relatively few words!
When you leave out the Christian Faith you end up with Nietzsche in the end. Not the world I want. That is the world we currently see coming.
Just remember this. The small community churches are still some of the most segregated places of gathering within America. I have only heard larger churches preach against these, and that was the last time I entered their doors.
Christians can be won over by explaining simply love of ones family does not imply hatred of the other family. Taking care of your family first is a biblical mandate.
You are on the beach with your child and a friend’s child swimming in the river. They get swept away. You have an equal chance of saving both. You can only save one. You save your child. Who is going to fault you?
I love my family. I provide for them first. My tribe is an extension of my family. I secure their future first. If I can’t secure the future of my people, then the charity I extend to others will end.
Good article, here.
The world-denying dogma of Christianity and Islam are incompatible with racialism, entirely. It is a philosophical thing. These religions teach that the “real” person is not the body, but the immaterial soul, which inhabits and invigorates the body. The body is just a shell.
They teach that when you die, you go to “Heaven” or “Hell,” and exist eternally.
In right-wing thought, we view race as inherent to our identity because race is a physical feature of our bodies, and we believe that we are our bodies.
We believe that the best way to immortalize yourself is through contributions to an immortal, biologically-based culture. In such a culture, people respect their ancestors, and see themselves as members of a Great Chain of Being. You are a link in that great, immortal, chain. This is what makes your life, which is itself just meaningless dust in the wind, have eternal meaning.
You do not need this if you believe in eternal life. In that case, you are an eternal being. You do not need your life to gain meaning.
You are wrong philosophically and theologically (a Christian MUST be a race realist, and CAN be a race patriot, provided his expressions of the latter do not violate basic ethical prohibitions on aggressive violence or persecution), and tying the sacred cause of White preservation to atheism is a surefire way NOT to save the White race. Given my background, the professional and social circles I inhabit, I have known many atheists. Every one but one has been a race liberal (some were progressives, others libertarians; the one who was not a race liberal was a Jew). I don’t exactly understand the social-psychological connection between atheism and race liberalism, but all empirical electoral evidence backs me up.
What pro-Whites must do is create and evangelize a new (and I strongly believe, correct) Christian theology of race realism, and derive from this the moral basis for racial separatism. Most pro-Whites (though not necessarily most White Nationalists) are, in fact, Christian, and see no contradiction between race and religion. But needlessly force them to choose between race and religion, and they will choose religion.
Isn’t that what Christian Identity tried to be? That didn’t work out too well. Also, you haven’t addressed the problem that the article itself points out, namely that religion in general has lost its appeal to most people across the Western world, most especially politically. Trying to establish a completely new church and then convert millions of people in the amount of time we have left, which is short, seems like a pipe dream.
Thank you for this.
Now please tell this to Nick Fuentes and the rest of the teenaged Traditional Catholics who’ve spent the last two years shitting on white identitarians. With friends like that, we don’t need Antifa.
One thing I like about modernity if not much else is that polytheism is back in a big way and likely to stick around, at least until the next super-volcano goes off anyway. Christianity has a couple of excellent things going for it deserving mention, children and the discouragement of sluttish behavior.
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