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To Rubicon or Not to Rubicon

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So here’s a question.

If Donald Trump were to lose the 2016 election by a wide margin, and then decide to straddle a tank and cross the Rubicon with the most of the US military and civilian militias behind him, should the Alt Right support him?

This question is both serious and unserious. It is unserious because I don’t think Trump would ever do such a thing. Further, I really hope Trump doesn’t lose the election. And if he does lose, the last thing I want him to do is fashion himself as Orange Julius Caesar. I guess at this point I’m still naive enough to revere the Founding Fathers and the US Constitution and basically the United States as a nation as it was up to 1965. I would hate to see all that die. I would hate to see our country descend into tyranny. Furthermore, I would also hate to inhale the dust and rubble of the civil strife which would certainly follow such a brazen power grab. If Trump were to do something like that — as enticing as such an action may seem — what would happen to checks and balances and separation of powers and the Bill of Rights? What would happen to America? Well, your guess is as good as mine. And that’s scary, because I got nothing. In such a scenario, the future becomes a blank slate, determined mostly by Trump and his family and the one or two dozen men in his inner circle. Is such a scenario scarier than 4-to-8 years of Hillary?

Think about that before you answer.

I say this because the above question is also quite serious. As each day passes, it becomes less of an exercise in logic and ethics and more of a fork-in-the-road-with-history-at-our-backs kind of dilemma. We’re not at that point yet, thankfully, since white American men, even with reduced political influence, can still work and save money and raise families in first world conditions. We can still afford to live in places where there aren’t too many hostile minorities. We can still envision the America of the Founding Fathers, even if that vision is getting fuzzier each day.

But the day in which we won’t be able to recognize America as it was first intended will surely come. Here is the reasoning behind such a prediction.

  1. The Founding Fathers created a liberal democracy, the Constitution of which was very much the product of the Enlightenment. They were well-studied in great political thinkers such as Locke, Montesquieu, and others. They used the English Bill of Rights as a starting point, and took great pains to balance personal liberty with a strong central government.
  2. In their first immigration act in 1790, the Founding Fathers limited immigration to “free white persons of good character.” Clearly, the racially pluralistic concoction that America has become occurred againstthe wishes of the very men who put their lives on the line to form this country and then framed our Constitution.
  3. Since the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s, which ensured political equality between blacks and whites, we have noticed how many non-whites (blacks and Hispanics, mostly) have shown little regard for Point 1 above. These people suffer from a disproportionate proclivity towards crime, which places many of them at odds with the idea of “liberty and justice for all” as stated in our Pledge of Allegiance. When they vote, it’s almost always to increase the power of the federal government in ways that would benefit them directly. In other words, liberty means less to them than largesse, so long as other people (read: whites) are forced pay for that largesse. They don’t care that such expenditures do greater economic harm than good. Further, when they actually participate in politics, they corrupt it with the kind of me-first attitude found most often in the governments of the Third World. They see politics primarily as a way to enrich themselves. Any glimpse at black-run municipalities, for example Detroit, MI, will put the lie to the idea that blacks and other non-whites share any affinity with the Founding Fathers.
  4. Since World War I at least, we have seen how large numbers of wealthy and influential American Jews have been encouraging non-white immigration into this country. Franz Boas may have given this its biggest push with his anthropological fictions of racial equality, but there were many, many others. Up until perhaps very recently, Jewish support for non-white immigration has been nearly unanimous. Kevin MacDonald dedicates an entire chapter to this topic in his Culture of Critique. In it, he quotes Nathan C. Belth in his 1979 history of the Anti-Defamation League as stating:

“In Congress, through all the years when the immigration battles were being fought, the names of Jewish legislators were in the forefront of the liberal forces; from Adolph Sabath to Samuel Dickstein and Emmanuel Celler in the House and from Herbert H. Lehman to Jacob Javits in the Senate. Each in his time was a leader of the Anti-Defamation League and of major organizations concerned with democratic development.”

Thus, it seems that American Jews have as much respect for Point 2 above and American blacks and other non-whites have for Point 1.

  1. After over a century of two very influential subsets of the American population working against the wishes of the Founding Fathers, we have come to the world we are in now. Government is more corrupt, more powerful, and more intrusive than ever before. Non-white Immigration is out of control. Violent crime is on the upswing. Islamic terror is on the upswing. And drawing any kind of racial connections here may get you labeled an extremist by one of the several Jewish-run civil rights organizations. There is clearly an unprecedented tide of racism rising against white people. Blacks and Hispanics have rioted to stop Trump rallies. Trump supporters have been beaten in the streets. It’s gotten so bad that Black terrorist organizations such as Black Lives Matter, which has received sanction from the White House, have offered allegiance to our nation’s external enemies, such as ISIS. This is the world that Hillary Clinton wishes to preserve, and this is the world Donald Trump wishes to save us from.

It doesn’t take a Nostradamus to figure out the direction in which this is all headed. In our near future, as our nation’s racial makeup continues to diversify, we are going to witness a complete break from the intent of the Founding Fathers. I do not trust the inheritors of Hillary Clinton to respect the freedom of speech of race-realist right wingers such as myself. I do not trust the inheritors of Barack Obama to respect the rights of whites in general to equal protection under the law. I do not trust the inheritors of the Jewish media and scholarly elites to respect the integrity of our borders and the ethnic and racial ties whites would like to share with one another. And I certainly do not trust the growing Muslim-American minority to not commit acts of terror and to not infringe upon our religious, intellectual, and social freedoms.

So let me ask again, in light of where we are headed, would Donald Trump’s crossing the Rubicon now be such a bad thing? Such an act would run counter to the desires of the Founding Fathers, true. But, as we have seen, so has the actions of so many of our minorities for over a century now. We seem to be heading away from our civic origins no matter what we do. Furthermore, the Founding Fathers crossed a Rubicon of their own, did they not?

I don’t think Donald Trump will lose the election, in which case this dilemma can be put off for some time. Between the Wall, deportations, and the so-called Muslim ban, the America of the Founding Fathers will continue to eke out its existence—at least until the next presidential election. On the other hand, if Trump does lose, I certainly hope he take his lumps like a man and walk back from that Rubicon (if he’s tempted to go there at all, which I doubt). Life is still too good to warrant revolution. But if history has taught us anything, it’s that life never stays good for long.


We are headed towards a Morton’s Fork in the road. Some of us can see it in the distance now and some of us can’t. But it’s there, and it is coming up a lot more quickly than we would like. When we reach it, we will have a decision to make, and it will entail answering the serious/non-serious question above. To Rubicon or not to Rubicon? That is the question.

As much as I would like to see that question answered, I am still unspeakably grateful that we don’t have to answer it now.



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  1. Laguna Beach Fogey
    Posted October 17, 2016 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    I’m inclined towards the Rubicon route. Waiting for the inevitable conflict simply gives them time to import more Orcs and consolidate their power over us. Better to die on your feet like a man than live on your knees as a slave.

  2. Demosthenes
    Posted October 17, 2016 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Temporary dictatorship, of the kind provided for in the Roman Republic, is necessary to reconstitute the American Republic.

  3. Dov
    Posted October 17, 2016 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    I’ll bite.

    It would be nice if the U.S. could be pulled back into explicitly pro-White sanity, but it’s never going to happen. Not in the “American” sociopolitical construct. The essence of America has turned into pro-multiculturalism, and patriotic energy – even that of rural Whites – will be pulled toward this force for as long as the country endures. I’m sure that many WNs once walked in the same shoes I did – that is, having reached the point of unease with the state of racial relations, but grasping at any chance to blame eternal forces like “liberalism”, Democrats, “big government”, and so on. Of course, we’ve moved past that point to the recognition of the statistical realities and conscious manipulation of racial differences. But for as long as the U.S. exists, any drifting of decent Whites toward White Nationalism will “overcorrect” every several weeks or months with the latest viral video of some Black on YouTube shouting that “the Democrats are the real racists!” or that the Second Amendment is just dandy because it protects Blacks from other Blacks.

    If and when a new polity is formed, all the more power to it if it pays homage to the White America that once was. Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt (Theodore Jr., that is)… great American men. But it must be emphasized: great *White* American men.

    • Dov
      Posted October 17, 2016 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

      *external forces

  4. Kudzu Bob
    Posted October 17, 2016 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Any discussion of what level of resistance is justified should Hillary be declared the winner needs to take into account the growing likelihood that she will trigger a nuclear war with Russia.

  5. Anonymous
    Posted October 18, 2016 at 2:06 am | Permalink

    Rubicon. Then invade and annex Australia.

  6. Lovekraft
    Posted October 18, 2016 at 4:59 am | Permalink

    China is patiently waiting to reap the spoils, of that I have no doubt. Their tentacles are deeply embedded in the west. Hundreds of thousands of pro-China Chinese living in the west whose allegiance is highly debatable.

    If not China, then another outside force would eventually come in. So it’s not a matter of simple destroying the local traitors. A defense against the outside hordes is also necessary.

  7. Posted October 18, 2016 at 5:35 am | Permalink

    I think, realistically, a big motivation for Trump to cross the Rubicon is the possibility that he may otherwise lose the empire that he has built up, because liberals will likely not leave him alone after the elections. When Trump has to choose between either losing his empire or building the Empire of America, I think he will logically choose the latter. The risks involved for Trump are huge. His family and fortune may be seriously endangered after the elections, if he loses that is. I think the component of self-interest combined with public support might just be the right mix for the final transformation of the United States of America into the Empire of America. While Trump may not originally have intended to establish himself as monarch, he may be pushed in this direction by the liberals. I believe that Trump would run the American Empire well, given that he has so much experience running a corporate empire. Autocratic leadership is, in my estimation, inevitable for America. Either the liberal establishment will form its own openly autocratic government or an authentic opposition force will form its own autocratic government. I feel that America is caught in a political spiral towards autocracy. Trump may make the Empire of America a sort of family business, possibly resulting in hereditary succession. An imperial victory for Trump may cause a domino effect in the West. I believe that the order of Western democracies is held together by a thin thread of American hegemony, and that Europe may easily return to being the continent of various autocratic governments. The American example, if it does come to the scenario where Trump is forced to cross the Rubicon to save himself and his family and White America, may entail the return of absolute monarchy as a serious ethnocentric alternative to the current anti-White model of liberal-democratic government. According to Chinese imperial philosophy, the American government has lost the Mandate of Heaven because it has decided to work actively against the people’s interests and therefore it is time for regime change. A Trump dynasty will hold the Mandate of Heaven for as long as it serves the people’s interests, not anti-White interests. Trump’s family can rule as long as they distance themselves from Jewish anti-White elements in American society. If they do not break with the organised Jewish community sooner or later, their own future will be jeopardised and so will their possible imperial victory on the American continent. The Trump family has everything to lose unless they manage to totally end their association with Jews and liberals. When there is a real political push for this, I believe they definitely will. After all, their own survival is at stake and who would not be willing to do anything for their own survival? In conclusion, regime survival in the context of Trump’s Empire of America would depend on the Trump family’s ability to adapt to a political environment that is more favourable to pro-White interests.

  8. BroncoColorado
    Posted October 18, 2016 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Life is full of Rubicon decisions, and usually the failure to act promptly and cross the river is the negligent course that leads to future problems. Many of us are still hoping for the best or fighting mental inertia, but in our hearts we know the Rubicon must be crossed, the only important decisions are when and how. The passage of time will answer those two questions.

  9. R_Moreland
    Posted October 18, 2016 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    Let’s start with a quote from Thomas Jefferson: I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.

    It just may be that the US – as well as the larger White world – is at a stage where politics-as-usual can not resolve the things that really matter. The hidebound System of our day, whose members rally behind Clinton, is akin to the Roman Optimates. Meanwhile Trump, like Caesar, is leading the Populares.

    It just may be that a Trump could mobilize “legions” from disgruntled veterans, gun rights militia, fed-up flyovers and nationalist infowar cadres. This may sound extreme, but look at how the System has mobilized Black Lives Matter as its own revolutionary vanguard. BLM has employed a considerable amount of violence and criminality in the streets and on campus, all without much in the way of condemnation by media, academia, government or the self-appointed guardians of civil liberties. Even with the assassination of police officers, BLM representatives are invited on stage with the Democratic presidential candidate.

    Given this situation, by what right would the System have to criticize a militant movement arising from among nationalists? (I mean, how many people has Pepe killed over the last year?)

    The question is how to create a major political movement. Nationalists could organize around popular issues such as opposition to censorship, especially in the face of growing hatespeech laws. And a Clinton presidency might force gunowners to finally make a stand about the Second Amendment. Up until now, gunowners have largely confined their activism to sending in monetary contributions to lobbying organizations. But what if Second Amendment supporters were to get out into the streets in mass acts of civil disobedience against federal gun control? Or students openly defy speechcodes on campus? Take the Left’s tactics of the 1960s and turn them around.

    So you’d have the first couple of Amendments covered, making a nationalist movement the standard bearers in a fight for freedom (which might bring in the libertarians). Millions are outraged over the abuses of federal agencies such as the TSA, and the wrecking of their living spaces by HUD relocation of inner city denizens into the suburbs. And even millions more are fed up with the growing in(s)anity of political correctness.

    There’s also that economic nationalism. Much of Caesar’s constituency was from veterans and small farmers dispossessed by oligarchs who exploited cheap labor to take over Italian agricultural lands and turn them into latifundia. Just as today more Americans are being dispossessed by outsourcing of jobs and insourcing of the third world, not to mention affirmative action. Think of organizing all those American programmers who’ve lost their jobs to foreign visa holders – and think of how they could seize control of the means of information technology.

    Then there is the question of law enforcement. I suspect a lot of cops are fed up with the System supporting BLM, even as the latter’s militants engage in open assassinations of officers. And yes, relations between law enforcement and the ultra-Right have been contentious in the past, but perhaps it is time for a realignment.

    Of course, these issues do not deal with White Nationalism per se. But we are dealing with the agitation side of the agitprop equation. It’s the use of popular issues to mobilize a militant front. (See how BLM exploits police shootings of the famous unarmed teens to radicalize various sectors of the populace.) Leftist frequently claim that Free Speech, gun rights, low taxes, law & order, civilized suburbs, etc., are White issues to maintain White supremacy. The critics are right, given that these are all bound up with White culture. The propaganda end comes with getting the mass mobilization to realize the relationship between these issues and White nationalism.

    Another thing to consider is how a confrontation would go down. The Left is very good at mobbing peaceful political rallies, sucker punching old people, burning flags and assaulting motorists trapped on blocked highways. How long would Leftists last against people who could fight back? The interesting thing is not how strong the Left is, but how weak. The Left will go into mass hysteria over the most trivial of “triggering” incidents. It has been one of the strengths of the Trump campaign that he has not backed down in the face of such hysteria. A concerted infowar campaign targeting the Left via triggering points could drive the foe bonkers. And once you win the infowar, pretty much all else follows.

    To talk about a civil war in America as a future event misses something critical: this war has been going on since at least the 1960s. The dilemma is that only one side has been fighting, and that has been the Left. White people have to wake up to the reality that the country has already crossed that Rubicon.

    Jefferson would understand. Then again, he was a White guy.

  10. Steve Johnson
    Posted October 24, 2016 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    There are two questions here and you’re conflating them:

    1) Should Trump in particular cross the Rubicon now?
    2) Should we support him if he does?

    Leaving aside question 1 for a moment I don’t see how there’s any debate at all on question 2. What’s the trend? The abuses keep getting worse and worse. Someone upthread mentioned the TSA – now the surly negros at the TSA cost the United States an alliance with the Phillipines ( A group gets paid off with opportunities for sadism to slake their manufactured resentment. Has there been any signs of reversal? Nope, just more and more payoffs and more and more manufactured resentments and the payoffs never satisfy because the manufactured resentments have nothing to do with the real causes of the resentment.

    The biggest problem with ending this is that it’s a sudden shock on one side vs a continual erosion on the other side. No particular erosion is worth taking the short term pain route. The other side knows this as well so they push a little at a time. With each push a few people believe this crosses their line and would be worth resorting to violence to stop. Who knows how many are over that line? Who knows how many would discover that they are over that line if someone started the process? The only sure thing is that if someone crossed the Rubicon and lost that lots of men would get purged – disproportionately the men who find the current regime unacceptable and those who resemble them (just to be sure).

    Someone reasonable actually crossing the Rubicon solves the coordination problem of everyone reaching a breaking point at different times and should be supported even if you’re not over your particular breaking point (because – looking at the trend – eventually USG will cross that line).

  11. Rubicon
    Posted October 25, 2020 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Bump, for the new election!

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