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“I’m Not a Conspiracy Theorist, but . . .”:
Jeffrey Epstein’s Death Gives New Life to “Conspiracy Theories”

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When Jeffrey Epstein died on August 10, 2019, he was one of the world’s most important prisoners because of the people he might implicate in his crimes.

Epstein was charged with multiple counts of sex trafficking and conspiracy to traffic minors for sex. But he was no ordinary pervert or pimp. Epstein enjoyed enormous wealth from obscure origins. He was described as a financier but had only one known client, Les Wexner, owner of Victoria’s Secret and other companies.

Epstein used his wealth to buy his way into the upper echelons of the American-Anglo-Jewish political and financial elite. Epstein’s black book contained contact information for such people as Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Andrew, King Salman of Saudi Arabia, Alan Dershowitz, Ehud Barak, Henry Kissinger, Michael Bloomberg, and many other oligarchs and entertainers.

Epstein apparently had a taste for underage girls. Underage girls, of course, cannot legally consent to sex, so Jeffrey Epstein was a serial rapist. He widely advertised his tastes, calling his private jet the Lolita Express. In 2006, the FBI began investigating Epstein, tracking down more than 100 women, many of them underage, who had been paid to perform sex acts for Epstein and his wealthy and influential friends.

But in 2007, Epstein cut a deal with US Attorney Alex Acosta to avoid federal prosecution and prison. According to the terms of this agreement, Epstein agreed to plead guilty to two felony prostitution charges in state court. In exchange, Epstein and his accomplices received immunity from federal sex-trafficking charges that could have landed them in prison for life. Epstein served 13 months in a private wing in a county jail. He was allowed to leave the jail 16 hours a day, six days a week. Basically, he only slept there. His alleged accomplices were never prosecuted. The Epstein deal was sealed, so that the nature and full extent of his crimes were never made public. The Epstein case was unsealed earlier this year due to the efforts of reporter Julie Brown, leading to Epstein’s arrest and eventually to his death.

Acosta ended up as Secretary of Labor in the Trump Administration. Acosta reportedly told a White House official, who then told reporter Vicky Ward, that he had signed the non-prosecution agreement because he had been told to “back off” on Epstein. “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone.” If this is true, one has to ask: Which country’s intelligence services did Epstein belong to? And who told Acosta to back off?

Philip Giraldi suggests that Israel is a likely candidate. Epstein was Jewish. So is his one known client, Les Wexner. His former girlfriend, confidante, and alleged co-conspirator in sex trafficking is Ghislaine Maxwell, the daughter of Robert Maxwell (born Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch), a wealthy Jewish businessman and swindler who, like Epstein, died in mysterious circumstances. According to Giraldi, “After his death, [Maxwell] was given a state funeral by Israel in which six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence listened while Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir eulogized: ‘He has done more for Israel than can today be said.’”

All of this raises uncomfortable questions. Was Epstein entrapping his wealthy and influential friends into committing statutory rape? Was he also collecting other more or less embarrassing dirt on them, in order to financially and perhaps politically blackmail them? That’s my working hypothesis.

I think Jeffrey Epstein was probably an Israeli intelligence agent, given the cover of a wealthy and connected financier, who pimped out underage girls to wealthy and influential perverts so he could blackmail them for money and favors in business and politics. This theory fits the known facts, has predictive power, and can be verified or refuted by further investigation. If this hypothesis is true, then quite a few powerful people had reasons to ensure that Epstein never stood trial or cut a deal with the prosecution.

Now if I knew Epstein was a likely target for assassination, so did the people who prosecuted him. So did Epstein’s jailers at New York’s Metropolitan Correctional Center. Everybody should have known that Epstein was a target as soon as he was arrested on July 6, 2019. Those who somehow initially overlooked this fact certainly had no excuse after Epstein was found injured and semiconscious in his cell on July 23, 2019. Epstein had marks around his neck consistent with either attempted suicide or attempted murder. To make matters worse, Epstein and his cellmate dummied up about what happened.

Thus when Jeffrey Epstein turned up dead with marks around his neck consistent with murder or suicide, everyone with two IQ points to rub together and a cursory knowledge of his case concluded that his death was no mere suicide.

Let’s think this through. Jeffrey Epstein was either murdered or he committed suicide. Nobody has suggested that Epstein died of natural causes. I am surprised nobody has suggested auto-erotic asphyxiation, given what a colossal pervert he was.

Because the Metropolitan Correctional Center had ways to prevent Epstein from committing suicide, if it was suicide, then Epstein was allowed to kill himself. If he was allowed to kill himself, it was either intentional or negligent.

If Epstein was intentionally allowed to kill himself, then the probable motive is the same as murder, namely to prevent Epstein from testifying.

If Epstein was negligently allowed to kill himself, then we have to conclude that the US government, particularly in New York City, is no longer a serious institution. Instead, it is functioning on a level somewhere between a Latin American banana republic and an African failed state. In particular, we have to conclude that the people in charge of New York’s Metropolitan Correctional Center are either criminal or negligent, or perhaps a combination of the two.

Moreover, any intelligent person could have concluded all of this before we began hearing stories of mysteriously malfunctioning surveillance cameras, mysteriously discontinued suicide monitoring, and mysteriously absent guards.

Whether it is murder or suicide, Jeffrey Epstein’s death is the scandal of the decade. Whether it is murder or suicide, and whether we ever get the truth or not, the Epstein case can only further unravel the average American’s already frayed trust in the political system and mainstream media. And that’s really good for populist dissidents like me, for populism feeds on the breakdown of trust in the establishment.

When the Epstein debate is between those who think that the system was evil enough to murder him or incompetent enough to let him commit suicide, the system can’t win, and we dissidents can’t lose. No matter what happened, the truth hurts them and helps us.

But what if we never even learn the truth? Then the debate will be between people who think the system is evil enough to cover up the truth and the people who think the system is too incompetent to find it. Heads we dissidents win, tails the establishment loses.

I like those odds.

Furthermore, something else died on August 10th, 2019, something of potentially far greater import than Jeffrey Epstein: The phrase “conspiracy theory” lost its power to deter critical thinking about the consensus manufactured and imposed by the political and media establishment.

In the hands of the establishment, “conspiracy theory” is simply a term of abuse masquerading as an objective category. For the establishment, a “conspiracy theory” is just a dissenting viewpoint that threatens its power.

But there’s nothing wrong with conspiracy theories. A “theory” is simply an explanation that ties together observed phenomena in terms of an underlying set of causes, e.g., the theory of evolution or atomic theory. A “conspiracy theory” is an explanation that ties together observed phenomena in terms of underlying causes as well, in this case human planning. The Latin root of “conspiracy,” conspirare, means to “whisper together.”

A conspiracy is a kind of human planning and action that has two essential characteristics. First, a conspiracy requires at least two people. An idea hatched and carried out by a lone person may be a plot or a crime, but it is not a conspiracy. Second, a conspiracy requires secrecy, because the things that people conspire about cannot be discussed openly without endangering the plan.

Conspiracies are often criminal but need not be. Sometimes one must resort to conspiracies to do perfectly legal things because to plan and act openly would tip one’s hand to rivals and enemies. So when football players huddle, they are conspiring. When businessmen develop products, they are conspiring. When governments plan espionage and warfare, they are conspiring. When political parties and candidates plan election campaigns, they are conspiring. When dissidents plan meetings and events, they are conspiring. I conspire every day of my life, from dawn to dusk.

Much of human history springs from plans and actions that begin in secret. Thus to stigmatize conspiracy theories as such would require us to throw out a vast number of criminal prosecutions. The same goes for most journalism and historiography, which often seek to tie together multiple observed facts in terms of unified plans. Most of the best literature and film on politics, espionage, and crime would have to be discarded as well. Can you imagine a James Bond movie in which merely uttering the words “conspiracy theory” would paralyze thought and action?

Moreover, the very same people who denigrate “conspiracy theories” engage in them all the time. But they don’t present them as theories. They just pass them off as facts. Consider this howler from Julia Ebner, who begins her essay “Stop the Online Conspiracy Theories Before They Break Democracy” with the words: “Organised conspiracy theorist networks have launched an all-out information war across Europe.” Of course, an “organized network” is just a clumsy way of saying “conspiracy.”

For the Left, Russia collusion, patriarchy, and white privilege are not conspiracy theories. They’re just facts. Which means that a “conspiracy theory” is just something that the establishment doesn’t want you to believe. A “conspiracy theory” is just a “dissenting idea,” which means that Ebner’s real title should be “Stop the Online Dissenting Ideas Before They Break Democracy.”

I’ll bet you thought that one feature of democracy is protecting dissenting ideas. That is certainly the purpose of the First Amendment in the United States. Freedom of speech needs to be a constitutional right to allow people to dissent from the opinions of the powerful, who might otherwise censor and punish disagreement.

Like “discrimination” and “generalization,” which the establishment also stigmatize as wicked, conspiracy theorizing—like theorizing in general—is simply a form of intelligence. Theorizing is what smart people do when faced with bewildering and complex phenomena. An establishment that praises credulity and stupidity is obviously up to no good.

Indeed, attacking conspiracy theories as such is an act of desperation. If truth is on your side, then it should be easy to refute contrary positions. The only reason one would want to disqualify dissent as such is the inability to refute dissenting views on their individual merits. But that’s exactly what one would expect from a system founded on lies, particularly the strange, self-contradictory lie that people are all equal and their differences are always a source of strength.

Conspiracy theorizing has been rising in recent years as trust in the establishment declines, and the establishment was pushing back. Before Epstein’s death, there was an alarming trend to weaponize the “conspiracy theory” smear to silence dissidents.

For instance, on August 6, 2018, Facebook, Apple’s iTunes, YouTube, and Spotify removed all content by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and his InfoWars site from their platforms. What’s the most plausible explanation for all four platforms dumping Jones on the same day: conspiracy or coincidence?

In January of 2019, YouTube announced that it would tweak its algorithms to recommend fewer “conspiracy theory” videos. Of course, YouTube does not define Russia collusion as a conspiracy theory, but it does brand white genocide and the great replacement as conspiracy theories.

Then on August 1, 2019, Yahoo! News reported on an FBI intelligence bulletin from the bureau’s Phoenix field office, dated May 30, 2019, which identified “conspiracy theories” like Pizzagate and QAnon to be domestic terrorist threats.

But since Epstein’s death, “conspiracy theories” are no longer marginal. They are mainstream.

Donald Trump has retweeted speculations that Bill Clinton was behind Epstein’s death. Democrats, for their part, are floating the theory that Trump was behind Epstein’s demise. Both Trump and Clinton are womanizers who knew Epstein.

Former New York Mayor and prosecutor Rudolph Giuliani pronounced the story of Epstein’s suicide “incredible” and claimed that there are “probably 50 very important people that have a motive to kill him.”

Current New York Mayor Bill De Blasio agreed, saying that Epstein’s death was “way too convenient” and could not be attributed to “traditional human error.” De Blasio basically said, “I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but . . .” But, as De Blasio put it, “sometimes you see a series of events that you cannot give a normal explanation for, and there needs to be a full investigation”—which pretty much sums up the feelings of conspiracy theorists on this matter.

Since Epstein’s death, media attempts to contain speculation with the “conspiracy theory” canard have been rather half-hearted, with the lamest attempts coming from the most authoritative sources. For instance, the BBC clucks disapprovingly that “[j]ust hours after the high-profile financier Jeffrey Epstein was found dead on Saturday, unsubstantiated theories about his death began to gain traction online.”

Epstein’s death is obviously fishy to any intelligent person. So of course people immediately began to speculate about alternative scenarios. Complaining that such theories are “unsubstantiated” is silly. Of course they are unsubstantiated. There has not been time to substantiate them. Every theory is unsubstantiated before it is tested. That’s why we need to test them. Let’s put some of the BBC’s investigative journalists to work on that, shall we? But apparently people at the BBC would like you to suspend judgment about the Epstein case and simply believe what they tell you.

After Epstein, we’re all conspiracy theorists now. The distinction between marginal “conspiracy theories” and mainstream “facts” has collapsed. The only relevant distinction now is between good conspiracy theories and bad ones, true conspiracies and false ones. I will discuss that distinction in a future article. This is a necessary labor, because I have a strong distaste for bad conspiracy theories, which often draw on false metaphysical assumptions and smack of madness.

Conspiracy theories are organically connected with populism. Populism holds that government is legitimate only if it governs for the common good. Populists regard factions and special interests as inimical to good government. Populists believe that government deliberations should be maximally transparent to guard against subversion by special interests, which of necessity must conspire in secret against the public good.

As I argued above, Epstein’s death helps populists no matter what the outcome of the case. First and foremost, Epstein’s death has deprived “conspiracy theory” of its power to marginalize, stigmatize, and paralyze critical thinking. Second, no matter what side of the Epstein debate you take, the system loses: If Epstein was murdered or intentionally allowed to commit suicide, the system is evil. If Epstein was negligently allowed to commit suicide, then the system is incompetent. If we never learn the truth about Epstein’s death, then the debate will be between those who think the system is evil enough to cover up the truth or too incompetent to discover it.

Please note that none of these populist gains are contingent on ever discovering the truth about Epstein’s death. The system has already written off these losses and moved on, leaving us to capitalize on them. The best-case scenario for the system entails a catastrophic loss of public trust, prestige, and narrative control.

It’s almost as if Epstein’s death was engineered by people who have no investment in the long-term viability of the American system. Perhaps America isn’t their country. Or maybe they simply fear a much worse outcome.

Which makes me wonder: What would happen if the system’s worst-case scenario came true, namely that we learn the full truth about Jeffrey Epstein and his friends? Given the waning power of the conspiracy canard and the role of genuine investigative journalism in bringing Epstein’s crimes to light, there is some reason for hope. But we shouldn’t wait around for such an eventuality. Instead, we should be capitalizing on the gains the Epstein case has already handed us.

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  1. Exile
    Posted August 19, 2019 at 4:40 am | Permalink

    Agree, this was a no win situation for Big Other, best they could do is cut their losses. Cultivating a dissident mindset means seeing these situations as opportunities. The scale and pace of these legitimacy-killing events seems to be accelerating. The apparatchiks are less capable, more corrupt and have more moles to whack with every day that passes. Catabolic collapse is looking like a strong horse to bet on, and that’s a good thing for us. White pill Monday.

  2. Boudreaux
    Posted August 19, 2019 at 5:33 am | Permalink

    For some reason I’m infinitely intrigued by the Epstein case, against my better judgement. Why is the author so sure he is dead? The pattern of these people feigning death to escape punishment is notable, and manhattan is the seat of their power. That seems more likely to me than his being killed bc there would be surveillance and witnesses of assassins having entered the prison. He leaves the prison for medical reasons and then is helicoptered to a private jet is actually all legal. All the finger pointing of which politicos supposedly killed Epstein is a big orchestrated distraction-it’s conspiarcy theory, I realize.

    Much like derb, I’m constitutionally opposed to conspiracy theory but for the past five years or so, I’ve given them much more credence. The plausible ones all seem to orbit around one particular thing…

    Re Epstein and blackmail: all these symbolic messages in movies about theses people who have offended against the xx’s. I’ve hypothesized that there are other things like that, that it should be bigger than these poor souls. Remember that show Carnivale? There was one scene in episode three, I think, this crazy bishop guy wants to build a cathedral and a politician thwarts him. The bishop turns around and yells”noooo” in this disembodied voice of satan, and then it shows the politician going to this Chinese whore house and fondling a little boy in one of the back rooms. Then it shows the politician shooting himself in a car. Like the bishop revealed his sins. Could that have been a warning to one of Epstein or others clients “do what we say! We have these pictures!” Intriguing.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted August 19, 2019 at 6:18 am | Permalink

      There’s no evidence that he left for medical reasons.

      • Rob Bottom
        Posted August 19, 2019 at 6:40 am | Permalink

        I too think there’s an equally good chance that Epstein is still alive. Everyone is squabbling about how he died, perhaps because they don’t want to risk coming off as “crazy” by suggesting an even greater conspiracy. What if he was switched out in the ambulance ride between the prison and the hospital, where he was officially pronounced dead? Assuming he was an intelligence agency asset, how difficult would it be to pull that off? There are companies that deal in bodies and body parts that could supply a suitable corpse – one has recently been caught in a grotesque scandal (The Biological Resource Center of Arizona). I wager it would be relatively simple. Consider also how mobsters have been placed into witness protection programs, clearly Epstein is as important as any mobster. When you consider the possibility that he is actually still alive and will get off scot free, the fact everyone accepts he is dead seems like a win for the establishment. And of course, anyone who suggests that he is still alive can still be branded a conspiracy theorist.

        • Stronza
          Posted August 19, 2019 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

          There are companies that deal in bodies and body parts that could supply a suitable corpse

          Anyone here remember that nightmarish movie “Seconds” (Frankenheimer, 1966) starring Rock Hudson. Nothing seems to be outside the realm of possibility anymore.

      • Boudreaux
        Posted August 19, 2019 at 7:18 am | Permalink

        By medical reasons I mean (Supposed)cardiac arrest due to strangulation. I know it ’s out on a limb, but everything is. Badges are flashed, “he’s intelligence, stand aside.” Lol.

  3. brabantian
    Posted August 19, 2019 at 5:35 am | Permalink

    Key data points support a 3rd possibility, that Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged ‘death’ covered a Mossad jailbreak and Epstein is now in Israel, the payoff for his decades of work for them

    Les Wexner who gave Epstein tens of millions plus bought the NYC mansion he later transferred to Epstein – Wexner along with the Bronfmans led the Mega Group of about 20 Jewish billionaires who met regularly to sponsor pro-Israel, ultra-Zionist projects … Epstein maybe chosen to replace Roy Cohn as major, biggest-ever political blackmailer

    US Attorney General William Barr was a CIA officer 1973-77, Barr’s later law firm Kirkland Ellis represented Epstein … Barr’s Jewish-born father Donald Barr, OSS in WW2, headmaster of the Dalton school hiring Epstein for his 1st job, teaching teens, Don Barr in the 70s also publishing a ‘fantasy novel’ about sexual slavery with scenes of rape of young teens, ‘Space Relations’ … AG Bill Barr now asks Jewish DOJ IG Horowitz to ‘investigate’ … ‘former’ CIA half-Jewish AG Barr would help Mossad maybe?

    The whole Epstein arrest saga seems staged, an intel op … 9 months of msm lead-in, Miami Herald in centre of Jewish community re-launching story out of the blue … Epstein’s own lawyer ultra-Zionist Dershowitz suing & winning to release Epstein files … given media ballyhoo, smart Epstein flew in to USA likely knowing he would be ‘arrested’ … police ‘break-in’ to Epsteins 27000 sqft mansion seemed fake, the place had 24-7 live in servants, butler who would let police in … super-long DOJ delay to raid Epstein island?

    A few hours after Epstein’s ‘body was discovered’ a 4chan post appeared, allegedly by jail staffer, saying that a few hours earlier, Epstein was put in a wheelchair, seems to have been driven out of the prison in a van escorted by a guy in a green military uniform

    Jewish lawyers for Epstein hired Jewish forensic expert Michael Baden, now age 85, who led 1970s enquiry JFK assassination cover-up, to ‘review’ Epstein’s autopsy

    Likely goals of operation Epstein: Show key figures that USA gov has files and tapes on Epstein’s hundreds of high-level visitors, intensifying blackmail opportunities … wind down the Epstein saga with a fake ‘death’ retirement … and show other Mossad agents, they will be extracted out of harm

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted August 19, 2019 at 6:54 am | Permalink

      None of these “data points” indicate that Epstein is alive.

      I am going with Occam’s razor on this one. The simplest scenario is they killed him or let him commit suicide. Your scenario requires a dead body that looks like Epstein’s but isn’t, and the cooperation of more people, e.g., medical examiners.

      Beyond that, a live Epstein remains a security liability.

      I think it is charming to believe that Jews, who promote policies knowing that they will lead to Jewish deaths as collateral damage, would so value someone like Epstein that they would go to the trouble of faking his death.

      • Otto Magdeburg
        Posted August 20, 2019 at 9:55 am | Permalink

        @ Greg Johnson

        You simply cannot use the Ockham’s razor in intelligence matters. You are dealing with devious people who might take the inclination of their intended victims into account to use this principle of theoretical economy. And that jews can stage quite complicated deceptions should be common knowledge at this point.

        I think @brabantian makes valid points but he doesn’t offer a mathematical proof, of course. At this stage various theories are possible and probably will be forever. If you are not in the inner circle of power you cannot know a lot of things.

      • Captain John Charity Spring MA
        Posted August 21, 2019 at 9:40 am | Permalink

        The Tragedy of the Rich Jew of Malta by Marlowe features an infamous hoaxed death of the principle character Barabas.

        It’s also a feature of the resurrection story. Two Roman guards sleep during the resurrection of the body from the tomb.

        The people working on these deception plans are often theater designers and magicians as many documentaries about ww2 suggest.

        • Otto Magdeburg
          Posted August 21, 2019 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

          Interesting. Could you become a bit more explicit about those “documentaries about ww2”, please?

    • Rhodok
      Posted August 19, 2019 at 8:28 am | Permalink

      He was probably an agent, but even for secret services, it’s a much easier solution if he is dead. The only reason to keep him alive is as an example for other agents. I.e. to instil trust in them that they will be rescued as well. But the risk of the US govt finding out that he is alive would be way too high.

    • Matt Jackson
      Posted August 20, 2019 at 9:12 am | Permalink

      I don’t believe he’s alive. But even if he is, it’s still a conspiracy. Either way, the government’s legitimacy is still called into question. At this point, natpops are the only ones who stand to benefit from either of these explanations.

      But if we were forced to choose from all of the theories being floated, we would want to choose the most reasonable one. Otherwise, it’s our credibility, and legitimacy, that’s called into question.

  4. Boudreaux
    Posted August 19, 2019 at 5:56 am | Permalink

    Conspiracy theory, as used by the detractors, is that official organs and institutions(ie academy, government, media) are withholding or falsifying the truth for nefarious ends. That’s the difference. It has to do with disagreement with official organs.

  5. Notmyname
    Posted August 19, 2019 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    Epstein was a pawn working with Mega Group for Mossad. Check out the in-depth report on Mint Press News.

  6. Tall grasshoppa
    Posted August 19, 2019 at 7:14 am | Permalink

    ‘In particular, we have to conclude that the people in charge of New York’s Metropolitan Correctional Center are either criminal or negligent, or perhaps a combination of the two.’.

    It is run by an affirmative action female who has a history of making freemasonic signs.

  7. Antidote
    Posted August 19, 2019 at 7:20 am | Permalink

    Superpimp lived like an emperor; he lived like a Master of the Universe. He had access to any female he wanted. Then he was in a cell with an eight foot ceiling with Bubba for the rest of his life.
    I was intrigued by the ‘Devil in a Blue Dress’ painting found in the inner sanctum. WTF? Then I remembered the Israeli press saying of the Lewinsky affair. “She is a modern day Queen Esther saving her people”.

  8. Godwin
    Posted August 19, 2019 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    I will discuss that distinction in a future article. This is a necessary labor, because I have a strong distaste for bad conspiracy theories, which often draw on false metaphysical assumptions and smack of madness.

    That’s the downside of this phenomenon. The enemy has limitless resources to twist and invent a myriad of theories that lead people away from us, and they will thrive in such an environment and not us because we are censored and unable to call them out, while they can put up 50 ‘dissenting’ theories (even some antithetical to each other) and still be okay.

  9. Vehmgericht
    Posted August 19, 2019 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    It might seem strange indeed that linguist, polymath and great scourge of unreason Steven Pinker should have assisted Epstein’s legal defence in 2007.

    Of course it would be shameful to impugn any impropriety on the part of the eminent professor whose Panglossian social commentary has always been tempered with a deep awareness and moving reverence for his Jewish background.

    One can only imagine that he felt ethically obliged to act in a strictly neutral professional fashion on that occasion so as to avert a prejudicial outcome for the beleaguered financier.

    Perhaps the true lesson of this tragic affair is that we all of us need to take a step back from unwarranted assumptions and cognitive biases that bedevil the ‘information age’, leaving such tangled and thorny matters to the sage countenances and safe hands of the experts.

    • Lord Shang
      Posted August 20, 2019 at 8:54 am | Permalink

      Pinkers are ethnically not ethically obliged …

  10. Lord Shang
    Posted August 20, 2019 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    Best article I’ve seen about this sordid case.

  11. atakent c1 24
    Posted January 10, 2020 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    just check the publication dates of these two videos on the link above and remember epstein scandal! you should keep in mind that tayip erdogan is a well known pedophile!

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