Fallen CastesThomas Steuben
Our circles thoroughly discuss racial issues, but something that is not discussed as much is caste. In the traditional worldview, caste is as real as race and is just as formative of the individual. As time passes and we become more estranged from our roots in the primordial Golden Age, our castes have become both weaker and intermixed.
Fallen castes can explain a lot of the dysfunction in modern American politics, with the fall of the priestly caste into an inversion of its former self being the most important one to analyze, as this inversion is at the root of most of the problems within Nicholas J. Fuentes’ America First (AF) youth movement, which has played a dominant role in post-Alt Right dissident politics. Most of the facts contained herein about AF came from The Kino Casino’s YouTube series, which has been documenting AF’s decline and fall.
Before proceeding further, it must be noted that castes are not equivalent to crass elitism. Nobles were expected to practice noblesse oblige in traditional societies in which privileges were balanced by duties, and Julius Evola considered a good peasant to be spiritually above a fallen warrior or priest. Each caste is necessary for a functional society, and class warfare is as if one’s heart, hands, and brain all turned against each other.
Evola observed that in previous centuries, men of the same caste but of different race would oftentimes have as much in common with each other as with members of their own race or nation, and sometimes even more so. We can see this phenomenon in the mutual respect that Alexander the Great and Darius had for each other, and likewise between Richard the Lionheart and Saladin. It is also evident in transnational medieval guilds and knightly orders. The four Tarot suites correspond to the traditional four castes of priests, warriors, merchants, and peasants/workers, which further suggests the importance of caste to our ancestors. Thus, to be casteless is almost as bad as being deracinated, and the two conditions frequently overlap as spiritual comorbidities.
This late in the Kali Yuga, we are almost universally in a state that is both fallen and intermixed. Even those who may seem pure of caste in spirit are rarely pure of caste in blood, and it has become common for men to be born to a biological caste which does not correspond to their spiritual caste. This invariably causes modern people to feel lost and unfulfilled, and impedes the transmission of whatever little wisdom is left in modern parents to their children. The castes have become mere shadows of their former selves, and at times pass from degradation to total dysfunction, and in some cases into a complete inversion. Today, several of the most prominent factions in politics correspond to a fallen caste expressing its dysfunction in the political arena.
First, we should begin with the peasants. Good peasants are industrious, have common sense and fairness, enjoy the simple pleasures of life, and instinctively follow warriors and priests. However, the QAnon movement and other adjacent conspiracy theories are expressions of a fallen peasant caste. All common sense has evaporated which, combined with an understandable sense of betrayal from above, leads to extreme paranoia. Peasants are by nature superstitious, and QAnon and such takes this superstition to a whole new level. Their good followership oftentimes goes awry in blindly backing the blue and falling for grifting schemes.
Next are the merchants. Good merchants can be a boon to society, such as Henry Ford. We are all too familiar with the damage that fallen merchants can inflict on a country, however. Corporate greed and Chamber of Commerce “conservatism” that conserves nothing except short-term profits is an expression of a fallen merchant caste.
Then there are the warriors. Good warriors are strong, brave, decisive, and loyal. Bad warriors, however, are stupid, uncultured, cowardly, fight for profit instead of honor, alternate between blind loyalty and insolent insubordination, and bully the other classes. “Wignats” or “wigger nationalists” are one such expression of a fallen warrior caste (it should be noted that I mean wignat in the traditional sense, which encompasses only a few people, and not the new definition of anyone disapproved of by Fuentes). For all of their raw aggression, they are stupid and uncultured and see every problem as a nail to be smashed with blunt physical force or ideological purity. There is a blind loyalty to past leaders among wignats and frequently also to contemporary leaders, juxtaposed with intermittent outbreaks of infighting amongst them.
The most important fallen caste for our analysis, though, is that of the priests. Priests can also encompass scholars, academics, and philosophers. Good priests serve as pillars of their communities (the word religion is derived from religare, which means “to bind again”), act as a bridge between the people and transcendent values (pontiff is derived from pontifex, which means “bridge builder”), search for truth, and sustain tradition. Fallen priests are hypocrites, greedy, sycophantic, dogmatic, have a slavish loyalty to leaders and doctrines, promote degenerate values, and virtue-signal while being devoid of virtue. Some examples are Marxist academics, journalists, and the corrupt clergy of the Renaissance. The dangers that fallen priests present cannot be understated, as they can misguide an entire community. They also tarnish religion through guilt by association, thus giving ammunition to anti-traditional forces such as atheism, nihilism, and materialism.
America First has many bewildering problems that make little sense to an outsider. When AF began its ascent during the original “Groyper Wars” of late 2019, it was composed not only of normal but above-average young men. It was understood that its policy objectives were generally pro-white and traditional, with good optics. Since then, and especially post-January 6, good optics were gradually abandoned with a descent into an obsession with being “incels” (involuntarily celibates) and lowbrow misogyny. Fuentes and other AF streamers will spend hours holding ad hoc ecumenical councils on the topic of inceldom. If the celebration of being a loser wasn’t sufficient to turn normal people away, the convoluted reasoning certainly would. These problems begin to make sense in light of the explanation that AF consists of a fallen priesthood and their misguided followers.
Fuentes, who is the root cause of AF’s dysfunction, has developed a Spencerian megalomania and narcissism that is evident in many of his grandiose statements, which have only been intensifying. It began with the occasional smug remark, such as proclaiming that he makes “many miracles” happen, and then escalated to obsessing over and comparing himself to Stalin. His recent ramblings while streaming have passed into complete delusion, however. Some highlights are “God created all of you guys to dig tunnels or something” and “I’m closer to the angels than I am to the people.”
The most sinister one, though, was “You’re a little piggy eating apple cores and banana peels in the trough and rolling around in the mud. Me, on the other hand, I’m sitting at the dinner table eating bacon.” This wasn’t even directed at his enemies, but at his followers. Why anyone would continue to follow someone who openly admits that he sees his followers as expendable pay pigs is beyond me.
Fuentes also has a holier-than-thou disdain for rural people and country living. Earlier this spring he disparaged them at length, calling them uncultured and even counter-signalled Cracker Barrell. Other traditionally Right-wing sectors he and other AF leaders have spoken ill of are “wagies,” as in white men who have to work because they were born into a decaying country without a trust fund, as well as veterans. I’m sure Fuentes, Beardson Beardley, and others shouting “f— the troops” is endearing to many Republicans who would otherwise be open to radicalization. These attitudes are what one would expect from a fallen priesthood that sees the other castes, and especially workers and warriors, as nothing other than a resource to be exploited, which is eerily similar to how many Jewish supremacists look at whites as “goyim” livestock. True priests cooperate with, care for, and guide the other castes.
Despite all of AFs virtue-signaling, there is still widespread degeneracy. Baked Alaska has a reputation for being degenerate and associating with various streamers of ill repute. He may have flip-flopped political allegiances several times, but his core personality hasn’t changed one bit. Take how he has successfully asked women to expose their breasts on camera while wearing a brown scapular, which is a religious symbol that is supposed to signify devotion to the Virgin Mary, amongst other conduct that reflects poorly on AF, such as harassing random people and pepper-spraying a bouncer.
Beardson has casually spoken about wanting a “meat and potatoes rape mod” for Skyrim, which is an otherwise wholesome and beloved fantasy PC game. Ethan Ralph, another prominent streamer on Fuente’s platform, Cozy TV, was convicted of revenge porn and also opined that most women are worthless and so are fair game to be enticed into having sex in restrooms with cocaine. This is all made even more disgusting by Ralph’s Jabba the Hutt level of obesity. At least the papacy’s infamous “Banquet of Chestnuts” was a sort of classy degeneracy, and was probably a complete fabrication (or at least heavily embellished). AF’s degeneracy is just plain trashy.
But the fallen priest I find most disheartening is Vincent James, as I previously held him in high regard and hoped that he could mentor Fuentes into becoming a better leader. That hope was dispelled when Vincent’s outlet, The Daily Veracity, published an article supposedly written by a certain Jill Schrider titled FBI Documents Reveal US May Have Funded Charlottesville Rioters Through Ukrainian Neo-Nazi Group — Documents Show Ties Between Azov Battalion, US Rioters. Its contents are as pearl-clutching as the title, and all it needed to fit in at the Huffington Post would be an ode to the martyrdom of Saint Heather Heyer. Thankfully, its contents were thoroughly refuted in a Hyphen Report article. To make a long story short, Vincent’s media outlet alleged some deep and shadowy connection between the Rise Above Movement (RAM) and Ukraine’s Azov Battalion (a legitimate part of Ukraine’s National Guard) that must have involved vague, but vast, sums of taxpayer money. But all RAM did was some mixed martial arts sparring and maybe drink tea with Azov’s political wing.
This was not an innocent mistake. While RAM’s connections to Azov are laughably frivolous, Vincent’s connections to RAM are quite extensive, as documented by Hyphen Report, and so he does not have ignorance or even recklessness as an excuse. Furthermore, the Telegram channel Activism, Athletics, Identity (a successor to RAM) remarked, “We thank Vincent James for taking this pic as we defended him so he can safely live stream and grift and make many shekels off our name. True friendship.” This is despite the fact that Vincent James claims to be a devout Catholic. Instead of following the basic commandment of “thou shalt not lie” and acting in line with perennial Indo-European notions of integrity, Vincent chose to act like a backstabbing Judas — and an incompetent one at that. There has been no retraction or correction since the article’s publication.
If I had to take a guess as to what motivated Vincent to approve publication of this article, it would be that Vincent’s child pope, Fuentes, has an irrational hatred of Ukraine because they refused to roll over to Vladimir Putin’s multi-ethnic federation, which is known to imprison, torture, and execute sincere nationalists. This is indicative of a larger problem in AF, where those who Fuentes disapproves of are excommunicated, and even de minimus associations with an excommunicated person (or here, country) warrants complete disavowal.
But some of the most shocking revelations came about in late April and earlier this month, when good people were walking away from AF like a line of falling dominos. It was as though everyone finally broke through the flimsy charade of gaslighting, endorsements, and initial impressions and realized all at once that Fuentes and his top hierophants are insincere and subversive. We now know that Fuentes is a fan of Euphoria, a show that promotes Weimar levels of Jewish degeneracy. We know that he conveniently omitted mentioning to his followers that a $500,000 crypto donation to AF which the feds had seized was actually returned roughly a year ago, but he continued to complain about it in order to garner donations. We know that many of his interns are tasked with doxing and gang-stalking rivals, which explains in part why the vaunted AF Foundation has yet to accomplish anything productive despite claiming to have numerous volunteers. We know that his piety is a performative farce and that he scarcely prays or goes to church, and even shunned joining his fans in a group prayer as if it was beneath him.
Some of his diehard fans are coping by explaining that the “Christ is King” optics was to keep Jews out, but this doesn’t make sense, as Fuentes allows a number of Jews in AF. These include Milo (who couldn’t provide information to the plaintiffs in Sines v. Kessler because he had already promised to exclusively provide it to the feds), Steve Franssen (birth name Steven Summerstone, a former “progressive parent”), and “Assistant Groyper,” who was implicated in a crypto currency solicitation scheme that caused 40 investors to lose $300,000. Assistant Groyper is not a low-level clerk or volunteer but is apparently very high on the AF totem pole, handling at least some of their finances. Even if Christian optics had successfully kept Jewish subversion out, what about the true believers who must now feel betrayed since it was revealed that AF is a blasphemous lie?
With dissident role models like these, who needs Marxist schoolteachers to corrupt the youth?
With AF’s priestly dysfunction only intensifying, it is doomed to become an insular pond of incels. At this point it is scarcely different from a cult. Do not let the endorsements that Fuentes has garnered fool you. Jim Jones likewise had a surprising number of high-profile endorsements, among them Jimmy Carter’s wife and Governor Jerry Brown, and yet his organization still ended in tragedy. I doubt that AF will have such a dramatic bang at its end, but if you are still associated with AF, I strongly recommend disassociating from it as soon as possible. There’s a reason why even Congressman Paul Gosar and Nick’s former best friend, Jaden McNeil, have lost their patience with Fuentes. Even if there is not some final dramatic calamity, sticking around is a waste of time and energy at best.
The fallen priests of AF and their followers have created a cult that manages to combine the absolute worst of the burnt-out Alt Right’s immaturity, the degeneracy of the normies, and the grifting of Conservatism Inc. AF has ceased to be something that could ever appeal to the masses or entice elite support. The fallen priest Fuentes, like the fallen merchant Trump, has turned America First into an inverted mockery of the warrior Charles Lindbergh’s original movement. Almost all of the Ddissident Right has already quietly — or not so quietly — disassociated from AF, as the broader movement has gotten better at spotting dysfunction over the years. Jaden’s report that the number of viewers of Cozy streams is artificially doubled is indicative that all but the most fanatical of Nycophants are walking away.
While we are almost all degradations of our castes, we can still choose whether we want to embrace our fallen state, as AF has done, or do what little we can to return to tradition. It is up to us to actualize our inner castes and to encourage others to follow us in doing the same. Embracing a culture of self-improvement is the only way that we can ensure that our movement has the necessary priests, warriors, merchants, and workers to accomplish the task of founding a new nation from the wreckage of the old.
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Talk about optics. On a long enough timeline, every right wing grifter will compare himself to Hitler.
I don’t understand the obsession with e-drama (unless you secretly enjoy it). How on earth can anybody keep tabs on all of these so-called personalities, let alone goings-on?
It is uninteresting and a waste of time/energy. All of these people will eventually come and go, but whiteness and anti-whiteness will endure.
But there is clearly is something to the wignat meme because many people identify as such, and yet it has taken me years to pinpoint exactly what it means because the definition seems to adapt frequently with endless addendums and revisions.
From what I understand it hazily involves some continuity from ‘WN 1.0’ (costumed brownshirts from the early 1990s) ie ‘bad optics’ (minus the guns because wignats hate the ‘gauche’ Second Amendment).
Then there is the ethics: Pro-feminism, unrequited gallantry and anti-incel misandry…from fellow men. Basically, mirroring a Buzzfeed/Jezebel minus the anti-whiteness.
Then the gratuitous antisemitism/reflexive racial-LGBT slurs (there is such a thing)/overall profanity, anti-Christianity (as if Christ himself was a Jewish conspiracy upon Europeans)/militant atheism, eternal Holocaust revisionism (really makes you question how much these ‘revisionists’ also want you to ‘never forget’ something that most kids know nothing about regardless), the grandiose WWII LARPing (fake political parties rendezvousing in barns, costumed rallies, creating ‘Apollonian’ religions etc), and still believing in the viability of democracy (and the CDC despite 2020)…so much so they pretend their frontmen will some day participate in elections decided by those hated normies conservatives they stopped pandering to long ago in favor of SWPL leftists (still haven’t figured out how that works when the ratio is 60-40 white Republican to white Democrat).
I have listened to many podcasts that absolutely corroborate this and the question is why? Is it because so many paypigs are women that they desperately do not want to alienate and thus act as lobbyists?
-Highly unlikely because it is almost exclusively men in this school of thought. Yet these people still shamelessly embrace this label and double down on all of its details for some strange reason to ‘own the Groypers.’
Is it because the FBI or foreign governments are involved?
-Possibly because everybody has a price and a line, and to some degree all are compromised by it.
So much of the anti-incel thing seems as out of touch in the other direction by divorced Gen-Xers as it is with extremely-online Zoomers, who at least have an excuse for their arrested development, inexperience and religious affectation.
‘Gratuitous’ antisemitism? Are you sure you are in the right place? The JQ (I prefer JP as the Q has long since been answered) is everything.
I do agree with you on the inordinate fascination with e-celeb drama. I can’t watch more than 2 minutes of that slob PPP and I dont know who has time to watch his 3hr+ streams. Regardless it’s good to have a genrral awareness of events within the movement to avoid wasting time and donatios on grifters. Which it turns out is all that NF amounts to.
Hiding that 500K and then using its ‘theft’ to rake in 1000s more is unforgivable and is in itself enough IMO to bury Fuentes.
I just knew I would get this response. Yes, I do mean gratuitous. If you ever listen to TRS it is so overdone and redundant that it almost makes me sympathize with the moneychangers momentarily. It really makes me wonder if that is the intention since some of them have been as intimate with them in their personal lives as it gets. They spent all of 2020 discussing the macabre of ashes, bones, furnaces, door sealants and chimneys instead of elections and lockdowns because democracy and lockdowns/vaccines are just dandy the way they are.
I don’t need to hear a slur every few minutes, just like I don’t need to hear profanity. It isn’t a ‘working class’ dialect. It sounds as inarticulate and lazy as Ebonics. If even a non-normie (me) gets annoyed by it, then you will never get normies to go along with any of it. That’s part of the wignat dilemma. They simply aren’t presentable…and I’m not even a groyper because they are only slightly more presentable.
You have to learn to speak the patois of normies. They have met us more than halfway in the last few months on so many issues because 2020-21 was the lynchpin to do many dominoes falling from 9/11 to legal immigration in the Cuckservative sphere. The only thing they won’t touch for now is the Holocaust, which is ok because everything else can be consolidated. Yet the spergs can’t comprehend how this works.
As for the rest of the aforementioned drama you mentioned…I literally don’t care.
Who is this PPP guy anyway? It’s sort of weird how this “Kino Casino” is just a few months old but has like over 100k views on some of their videos. Like you mentioned in your earlier post, there are so many of these streamers and e-celebs. I have my select few podcasts that I invest time to listen to, namely the stuff on Amren.
In a way, youtube and the internet sort of in a way altered the celebrity caste. It used to be that you had to know the right people to get in that caste. Now, youtube and streaming makes this caste more available to more people.
The natural aristocracy Thomas Jefferson spoke of seems to be quickly eroding away with all of the equity stuff going on. Perhaps the biggest embodiment of American aristocracy is the Supreme Court. We now have someone nominated based on her gender and race and cannot even define what a woman is. The leak of the abortion case draft is evident that even SCOTUS is rotting inside.
The purpose of TRS, as I understand it, is to sell subscriptions for entertainment purposes and for WN information and recruitment. This is essentially how the NSDAP funded itself.
I have listened to nearly all of the major TRS podcasts for many years now, and I am not one to be shy with criticism if I think they are running too hard with a grug take.
I also tend to be a hard realist and eschew conspiracy-theory and “speculative” or tabloid journalism. This is a little more important than who shot JFK. (My Answer: It was a very disturbed ex-Marine who after one miss, twice made a shot that any Army recruit who did not “Bolo” at the rifle range should have been able to make.)
I have been studying what I call the Big-H for over forty years, since Willis Carto published a provocative special issue on this subject in the December 1979 issue of Spotlight, his “Liberty Lobby” tabloid newspaper.
Since that time I have actually trained in historiography and librarianship and been interested in discussing and debating the Truth. Unlike Fred Leuchter, I actually have technologist qualifications and some (modest) military experience having been an NCO in the U.S. Army Signal Corps in the 1980s.
In any case, I strongly disagree that TRS has mishandled the Holocaust discussion. They have only hit some of the high points, about right for introducing neophytes to the importance of this discussion and debate, plus the importance of historical Revision and skeptical historiography in general.
The TRS commentators have drawn on the increasingly impressive body of high-quality reference scholarship published by Revisionists entirely outside of establishment blessing over recent decades, and sometimes at their own peril considering that honestly examining the subject itself is now a criminal offense in most European countries and Canada.
Discussing and debating the Holocaust may be uninteresting for some, but it is vital if the Truth ─ and how we know it ─ has any meaning at all.
The Holocaust is NOT a monolith any more than any other complex historical event like World War II itself. There are many viewpoints and versions of the American Civil War as well, for example. All of these things are worthy and proper of discussion and debate. Any Scientific Method is a necessary process of revision, and not canon.
If White Nationalists or anyone else concedes the premise that the “Jewish Question” is important or crucial to at least discuss, then it is impossible to ignore the Holocaust either ─ its role in contemporary history and ideology, and the mythology itself of the Good War.
How does one even define the Holocaust?
I don’t think the ADL, the SPLC, the Communists, Zionists, Leftists, NGOs, “woke” governments, Deborah Lipstadt, or anyone else ─ fair or foul ─ should be defining the parameters of what is “legitimate” investigation.
White Nationalists can ignore the Holocaust and its profound implications if they want ─ but it will never go away.
The Big-H is a litmus test for anyone considering serious White Nationalism or racial realism.
And this stands to reason, considering how hard and at what expense the indefatigable enemy has to work to maintain and fund the H-mythology, with memorials everywhere, and incessant and hateful propaganda chastising the very idea of Western Civilization and the very existence of Whiteness itself ─ unless it means obsequiously embracing the proverbial Nïgger in the woodpile, of course.
Oh, did I say something too strong for Normies?
Oh wow totally edgy Boomer found who just can’t get beyond LARPing Neo-Nazism. The mass Jewish suicide in Masada is forgotten yet Jewish hegemony still reigns. This is macabre obsession with gas chambers is why Gen-X/Baby Boomers can never be allowed to lead this movement. It’s always you guys focused on the most inane nonsense that literally nobody else cares about but Jews. You are deliberately playing their game, or perhaps you really are that clueless that you don’t even realize it.
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<< Oh wow totally edgy Boomer found who just can’t get beyond LARPing Neo-Nazism. The mass Jewish suicide in Masada is forgotten yet Jewish hegemony still reigns. This is macabre obsession with gas chambers is why Gen-X/Baby Boomers can never be allowed to lead this movement. It’s always you guys focused on the most inane nonsense that literally nobody else cares about but Jews. You are deliberately playing their game, or perhaps you really are that clueless that you don’t even realize it. >>
Easy, Sonny. Who’s obsessed with the Joos? Either there is a “Jewish Question” or there isn’t. If not, how does one play “their” game? You contradict yourself.
All I am asking is that people at least be willing to talk about the JQ and the Holocaust. If you and fellow-travelers persist in wanting to criminalize such discussions, it will eventually backfire badly on you.
The thing is that Jews comprise only about 2 percent of the U.S. population and yet overwhelmingly hold the elite ranks; they either own or control outright over 99 percent of the mass-media. This begs a “Jewish Question” from the start. It is hard not to “notice.”
What would you say if the 2 percent Mormons (LDS) were the ones, instead, that controlled the mass-media? Would we need to be able to rationally talk about it then?
Jews who hold the Holocaust theologian, Prof. Deborah Lipstadt’s worldview that the Holocaust is beyond reasonable historical skepticism ─ aped by their Gentile sycophants in modern countries like Germany and Canada ─ are the ones who have set Jews up as being far beyond ANY pale of criticism.
A faith-based system ranks people as either Believers or Deniers. You literally cannot criticize a Jew or Jews without being an “anti-Semite” or a Nazi by definition, i.e., someone that Jews don’t like. But this is not History at all ─ it is Theology.
The anti-anti-Semites have made it so that Jews are beyond the proverbial “pale of humanity” itself ─ in fact ─ because they cannot now be criticized or their conduct publicly evaluated in any way, fair or foul. To do so is to “gas” them all over again. Apparently, they have made themselves into our Deity. We need to at least talk about it.
So to use a cliché, “you might not care about the Holocaust but the Holocaust cares about you.” And the homicidal gaschambers are at the core of that.
“Nazi Gassings Never Happened !” as my late friend, the Columbia-educated Engineer and Holocaust Revisionist, Friedrich Paul Berg put it.
Either Fritz was right and the Nazi homicidal gassings are a “Hoax,” or he was wrong and this is the God’s own Truth. People have been put to the stake for doubting less.
If you dispute that this homicidal gaschamber claim is a lie, we are willing to talk. Unlike some Über-Jews like the late Nobel Peace Laureate Elie Wiesel, or Dr. Lipstadt, the Hate envoy of the Brandon Administration, I do not have the Truth with a capital T at my beck and call.
If you don’t care about this subject, that is fine too. Not everyone has critical-thinking chops.
But otherwise, reasonable human beings do debate and discuss things ─ and we can at least agree to disagree when the sides are far apart. Agreement forms the basis of peace and understanding. Civilization would be impossible without this process in good faith. I certainly do not have all the answers ─ and I have never claimed differently.
I started the RODOH discussion forum in 2003 at maybe 0.003 of the budget of CODOH, which is a good forum but more heavily-handed with moderation than I favor.
I think my detractors from both sides would agree that I have been fair to Jews, and quite of slew of PhDs who have disagreed with us freethinkers, including Revisionists and Nazis. A few have at least been willing to debate and discuss issues with the other side. Usually people just talk past each other, but this is far better than refusing to parlay with critics at all. I can’t imagine that any issue would be more important for both Jews and Gentiles than to honestly engage with the Big-H in our day and age.
This does beg the question as to what one expects and needs from a “Movement.”
No, “Real History” is not a “Movement,” per se, but it is rather like oxygen and is indispensable to living thought, and maybe for the meaning of modern life itself.
With some notable exceptions, Millennials and Zoomers seem to have a lot more to learn than they realize before they can meaningfully take over the reins of anything themselves. This “broken Caste” article is spot on. Sorry.
I think there is a difference between “e-drama” and exposing dangerous bad actors within the movement. This “drama” is not confined to the Internet at this point. It has long since crossed over into real life money, real life politics, and real people’s lives.
Generally, conflicts between high profile figures should be worked out in private, if possible. However, Fuentes has proven to be unwilling to listen to any criticism (in public or in private) from anyone, including people in his own inner circle, even if such criticism is entirely warranted and necessary.
At this point, there is not much choice but to take this more public route in order to hopefully encourage more people to stay away from/get off of his sinking ship before things get any worse.
The people who promote the idea that “infighting” and “drama” and “punching right” are absolutely wrong generally hope to benefit from such prohibitions. They’ve got problems they do not wish to be noticed or discussed.
This article was sickening.Full of gossip,personal attacks and sectarianism.Our movement is above garbage like this.CC can do better.We could find some who would be happy to write such an inane critique on almost anyone in the movement–including Greg Johnson.While I view Fuentes with mixed feelings,he was able to organize the largest nationalist conference(AF)in the last few years.I believe the attendance was over one thousand people.The next closest event was the AmRen conference with about 200 people.
The worst things in the article were things that Fuentes, et al. actually said.
Fuentes built his movement on gossip, personal attacks, sectarianism, and being a jerk. Yet people praise him for the “results.”
Well, these are “results” too. The people you step on on your way up will be there to kick you on your way down.
How? I am just not seeing it. If you are dumb enough to actually donate to any of these NEETS then you need to get your priorities in order. People who invest in this want all of this to be more important than it actually is. This should not be a personality-driven movement. You should get behind the slipstream of whoever is the lead dog in the moment and then abandon him as soon as he falls off his axis in favor of whoever is next. That’s what it was like with Spencer. Fuentes has pushed the envelope in his own strange way. He made youth leader Charlie Kirk change his tune entirely and even got Matt Walsh to describe himself in his handle as a ‘theocratic fascist’ while working for Ben Shapiro. He went on all of these Cuckservative shows and now these hosts are using his talking points I guess because he knows how to be presentable to normies even while delivering unfashionable positions like the incel stuff, which *is* recruiting young white men faster than black crime because one of those is inescapable and the other isn’t. Nobody has done this but Fuentes.
So many of these e-Celebs have disastrous personal lives that I do not care about and neither should you. None of it affects us. I have no idea why Fuentes garners this much attention from actual politicians, media figures or accumulated this much money because he isn’t as talented, intelligent or interesting as you all make him out to be, but he is still actually changing things somehow almost singlehandedly. Anybody who is against that is just a clucking hen more interested in gossip than commandeering rightism for WN.
As an older White woman, Counter Currents and Greg Johnson early on garnered my attention (and continuing allegiance) with the lovely title of a book, “Truth, Justice and a Nice White Country”. This is pretty much what women want, so keep this in mind when you are scrabbling all over the web looking for something more esoteric. The high tone of scholarship and the level of the scholarly writing and topics is another top draw. I’ve never heard of Nick Fuentes, though I will now at least ‘look him up’, but as described above by one of our finer writers, I think I’ll just stick around on the ranch here.
Oh, I got the title wrong — it’s “Truth, Justice and a Nice White Country”.
You guys should listen to what Alt Hype (Ryan Faulk) has to say before you write Nick off:
Ryan starts talking about Fuentes around 19:00.
I listened to it. Faulk streams on Cozy.tv. If he wants to dismiss Jaden and Simon as bitter ex-employees, I will dismiss him as buttering up his boss.
Fuentes, who is the root cause of AF’s dysfunction, has developed a Spencerian megalomania and narcissism
Fuentes also has a holier-than-thou disdain for rural people and country living. Earlier this spring he disparaged them at length, calling them uncultured and even counter-signalled Cracker Barrell. Other traditionally Right-wing sectors he and other AF leaders have spoken ill of are “wagies,” as in white men who have to work because they were born into a decaying country without a trust fund,
Nick Fuentes. Not even 25. A new star that initially burned twice as bright but half as long and degenerated just as quickly.
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