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Payton Gendron
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On Saturday, May 14th, 2022, Payton Gendron, an 18-year-old white man concerned with “the Great Replacement” of whites by non-whites, went to a place frequented by non-whites and started shooting. At this time, ten people are dead, most of them black. You can read his Manifesto here.
Before I go into my standard boilerplate article on such shooting sprees, I need to note several things.
The last such spree on which I commented took place on October 9, 2019, in Germany, i.e., more than 2-and-a-half years ago. This is a positive sign. The vast majority of mass shootings that have taken place in the United States during that period have been committed by non-whites, and white mass shooters have not been motivated by fear of ethnic replacement.
I have read Gendron’s manifesto, and nothing about it seems obviously fake. I am convinced that he is exactly what he claims to be: a race-conscious white man who thought that he could stop the Great Replacement by killing mostly elderly black women at a supermarket. The people who immediately started claiming that this operation is somehow a “false flag” or that Gendron is a “glowie” need to present evidence.
The person responsible for this attack is Payton Gendron. Not white people. Not White Nationalists. Not his gun. Not /pol/. Not memes. Not the ideas of “white genocide” or “the Great Replacement.” Not the First Amendment or the Second Amendment to the US Constitution.
Payton Gendron has been arrested. He should be tried and punished, alone. We cannot allow censors and gun-grabbers to weaponize and politically exploit this terrible event. We cannot allow innocents to be targeted by yet another online lynch mob of hysterical Leftists. Gendron’s crime is bad enough. Creating a backlash that harms innocent people will only make it worse.
Advocates of censorship will argue that this crime took place because of freedom of speech and could have been prevented by more rigorous censorship. This is false. There is already massive censorship — mostly by private corporations, like Google, Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook — of discussions of ideas like the Great Replacement, but that did not prevent Payton Gendron from becoming a mass shooter.
Censorship did not just fail to prevent Payton Gendron from becoming a mass shooter, it actually made his killing spree more likely. For more than a decade now, I have been arguing against mass shootings like this. Yet censorious tech giants like Amazon, Google, Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook have deplatformed, shadowbanned, and googled me out of search results along with the worst advocates of violent accelerationism. I am certain that if we had genuine free speech online that my arguments in articles like “Against White Nationalist Terrorism” and “Against Accelerationism,” along with other articles criticizing accelerationist spree killers, could have prevented some of these senseless tragedies. So if the advocates of censorship are looking for “root causes,” they need to start by looking in the mirror.
Advocates of gun control will also try to exploit this senseless tragedy for political gain: “If only we had more gun control, this crime would not have happened.” However, Gendron’s manifesto makes clear that he regarded New York State gun control laws as an advantage for his crime: “NY has cucked gun laws. Assault style weapons and high capacity magazines are illegal for civilians to own, thus lowering threats from law-abiding civilians” (Manifesto, p. 58). If New York had less restrictive gun laws, he might have reconsidered the whole thing.
For what it’s worth, the gun grabbers are actually part of Gendron’s plan: “Won’t your attack result in calls for the removal of gun rights in the United States? Yes, that is the plan all along” (Manifesto, p. 11). Like Tarrant, Gendron hopes to inspire the gun grabbers, thinking that will accelerate change by creating a violent backlash.
Deceptive people will argue that Gendron’s crimes were caused by the “conspiracy theory” of “the Great Replacement.” They’ll blame Renaud Camus for coining the term. They’ll blame Tucker Carlson for popularizing it. But their blame is misplaced. They’re not getting to the “root problem,” which is simply that the Great Replacement is real, and it will remain a real and growing problem, even if all discussion of it is censored. They’re just blaming the messenger. They’re blaming the bearer of bad news. But the whole reason we need freedom of speech is so we can tell powerful people that their plans have gone wrong.
Gendron’s decision to go on a shooting spree was motivated by a false sense of urgency. On the one hand, he knew that the solution to our problems requires a “civilizational paradigm shift”: “We must inevitably correct the disaster of hedonistic, nihilistic individualism. But it will take some time, time we do not have due to the crisis of mass immigration” (Manifesto, p. 2). Actually, the passage I quoted is simply plagiarized from Brenton Tarrant’s Manifesto. Tarrant too was acting with a false sense of urgency, and not only did Gendron copy his idea, he copied his very words.
There are two problems with this reasoning. First, we have decades to get this right. Payton Gendron could have spent his entire life working to raise consciousness about white replacement. He didn’t have to waste his life this way. Second, as I make clear below, mass shootings are counter-productive anyway. As I never tire of repeating: We’ve got time to do this right, and if we don’t have time, doing something stupid won’t help us anyway.
And now for the boilerplate. The basic argument is always the same. I just need to change a few of the particulars.
As a white person, I look down upon the criminals among us. I do not reflexively defend and glorify them. This was a terrible act: immoral, illegal, and politically damaging to white interests. I hope Gendron receives a fair trial and — if found guilty — a just punishment, but that seems unlikely given the racially charged, anti-white atmosphere in America today.
We obviously don’t know all the facts yet, but based on Gendron’s livestream and manifesto, we can say several things with confidence.
First, Gendron was definitely concerned with white racial dispossession. We also cannot rule out that he was motivated by recent acts of anti-white terrorism, such as the Waukesha massacre of white children and elderly people committed by a black with a long history of public anti-white statements, who was free to commit his crimes because of Soros-funded activists.
Second, this shooting spree could not have happened in a homogeneously white society. When different peoples are forced to live together in the same system, frictions are inevitable. These frictions give rise to misunderstandings, distrust, alienation, and long-simmering resentments, which flare up into hatred, violence, and social upheaval. Gendron’s actions are predictable consequences of multiculturalism. Sadly, we will only see more such violence until white nations regain their sanity and reverse multiculturalism.
The establishment wants you to believe that white separatism, preservationism, and nationalism are inherently violent ideas. The precise opposite is true. Multiculturalism is an inherently violent idea, because multiculturalism makes ethnic hatred and violence inevitable. Ethnonationalism is an ideology of peace and amity, because giving distinct peoples their own homelands removes one of the principal causes of hatred and violence.
Thus the New Right stands for the principle of racial divorce. It is time for whites and non-whites to go our separate ways and pursue our own destinies. We stand for the creation of separate racially homogeneous societies, through the peaceful and humane process of redrawing borders and shifting populations.
Third, we should resist dismissing Gendron with the all-too-easy claim that he was “crazy.” Yes, he did something evil and stupid. But his underlying motive — fear of white race replacement — is not irrational or insane; it is a healthy reaction to objective facts. All white people have innate ethnocentric tendencies, wired deep in our brains. We love our own and we fear strangers. As diversity increases, all of us will bear increased psychic costs, even those who pursue wealth and status by selling out their own people in favor of foreigners.
Gendron and people like him may be nothing more than canaries in a coal mine: the first to sense the presence of a threat to the survival of us all. Gendron may have just been abnormally sensitive to the terrible psychic consequences of losing control of our society to aliens: stress, alienation, anger, hatred, rage, etc. This heightened sensitivity might also go along with a whole suite of other abnormal traits. But we dismiss people like Gendron at our own risk. For in the end, all of us will feel the same effects — unless we heed the warning signs and turn back the rising tide of color.
Finally, Gendron’s “solution” to his rage and alienation — killing innocent people — just makes the racial situation worse rather than better. We will surely learn a lot more about his ideas and affiliations in the coming months. But based on what we know now, we can say that his actions certainly resemble those of racially-motivated spree killers like Brenton Tarrant (whom he was obviously imitating), John Earnest, Robert Bowers, Dylann Roof, Anders Behring Breivik, Wade Michael Page, and Frazier Glenn Miller, all of whom are products of what I call “Old Right” thinking.
Brenton Tarrant
By the “Old Right,” I mean classical Fascism and National Socialism (with which Gendron explicitly associates himself) and their contemporary imitators who believe that White Nationalism can be advanced through such means as one-party politics, terrorism, totalitarianism, imperialism, and genocide.
Today’s Old Right scene is rife with fantasies of race war, lone-wolf attacks on non-whites, and heroic last stands that end in a hail of police bullets. Intelligent and honorable people have emerged from this milieu. But there have been more than a few spree-killers as well.
This kind of violence is worse than a crime. It is a mistake. It does nothing to advance our cause and much to set us back.
Given that reason, science, and history are all on our side, and the greatest apparatus of coercion and brainwashing in human history is on the enemy’s side, doesn’t it make sense to attack the enemy at his weakest point rather than at his strongest? This is why the North American New Right pursues White Nationalism through intellectual and cultural means: we critique the hegemony of anti-white ideas and seek to establish a counter-hegemony of pro-white ideas.
Only a fool picks a battle he cannot win, and we cannot win with violence. Fortunately, we don’t have to. The Left lost the Cold War but won the peace through the establishment of intellectual and cultural hegemony. We can beat them the same way.
Furthermore, the only form of violence that even has a chance to be productive in halting multiculturalism and non-white immigration would target the people responsible for these policies, not random innocents.
Moreover, killing innocent people — even if they are racial invaders — has entirely predictable results. First, such violence creates sympathy for the victims. (Even I feel sympathy for them, yet I would send them all to a black homeland tomorrow if I had the power.) Second, it plays into the establishment narrative of evil, crazy, intolerant whites whose freedom of speech and weapons must be taken away.
As I argue in my essay “Against White Nationalist Terrorism,” White Nationalists are making tremendous progress by means of propaganda. We are converting people to our worldview. The more people we convert, the sooner we regain control of our homelands. This is why our enemies are hell-bent on censoring and deplatforming us. They use every shooting spree like Tarrant’s or Gendron’s as a pretext to further clamp down on our freedom of speech, which restricts our ability to change minds and delays the implementation of sane, nationalist policies. And every day we are delayed is paid for in white lives.
Payton Gendron killed ten people in Buffalo, most of them black. But far more white people will die if his deeds lead to further erosions of freedom.
I wish I could erect a wall between myself and the kind of unstable, undisciplined people who go on killing sprees, but you can’t change the world from a bunker. Thus, responsible white advocates need to adopt the next best course of action: (1) we must be alert to the signs of mental instability and inclinations toward violence and rigorously screen out such people, (2) we need to draw clear, unambiguous intellectual lines between New Right and Old Right approaches, and (3) if anyone makes concrete threats of committing such acts in our circles, we need to be the ones to call the police. Our choice is to talk to the police before such attacks —or be grilled by them afterwards.
My goal is to persuade our people that White Nationalism is the solution to ethnic conflict, not the cause of it. Spree killers and the people who celebrate them are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
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66 comments
I remember back in the days after 9/11 a person making the case whoever was responsible, there are legitimate reasons to be aggrieved by the United States government, and its actions, and these will always tend to increase the likelihood of such an attack occurring.
And of course the person was howled down, but he was right.
So too we have it here. The action itself, well, we can all be relatively more for or against, or neutral, for moral reasons, tactical reasons or whatever pulls most strongly on us.. but absolutely it is a downstream result of evils and harms that occurred earlier, and continue apace.
The (ongoing) dispossession of (now), well established people, connected to a place, by those alien to them, and abetted by traitors, cowards, and the ignorant in our own midst.
I am no fan of human suffering, especially when it (should be) unnecessary. We can empathise with those shot.. they should have their own space, under their control, where they are not vulnerable to such acts. And so too we can empathise with the shooter.. his people too, need their own space, under their own control, to make the fight for such a space, politically or physically, unnecessary.
As always, our leaders, our governors, our communication systems, our educators, our media, and our legal systems, have let us down absolutely.
They allowed a system that unnecessarily victimises to exist, and seek to perpetuate and expand it, mostly at a cost to some, but in the end at a cost to all.
We can turn the page on these happenstances when we turn the page on them, and people have the intelligence to orientate to positions that don’t have as a goal, a process, a methodology, and a result.. the overthrow of a majority people, to be replaced by another.
Jeez, it had been so long since the last white shooter, I too had hoped we were through with these. But although his actions were pointless and evil, his manifesto sounds very rational(I only read the first couple of pages). I would almost expect him to be a counter currents reader…
I am rather glad he did not name-check us.
Yeah, seriously.
He linked to the “Color of crime” of Amren unfortunately.
On another dissident rightist site (one mentioned by Peyton Gendron in his 180 page writings) a reader asks what his name means. Being a writer myself and a lover of words, I looked up “Peyton” and “Gendron” and what I interpret that name (those two words) as is follows: Son-in-law of a fighting man’s estate. Take it for what it’s worth but I think that’s an interesting translation, open to varied interpretation. But there it is in his name. See how my mother named me to highlight how “free” I am? She put it in there twice. Thank you Mom! ❤️
What website did he mention?
I do believe he referenced Anglin’s dailystormer and the stormfront website/forums, which by the way have a great 20plus page thread going about the whole thing.
The fact that his “manifesto” is being so heavily suppressed today (but not yesterday) leads me to believe it’s a genuine document that the shooter himself somehow created. That the feds didn’t write it and definitely don’t want us to read it. Also it’s plainly evident that his first victim was a white woman and that he spared a pleading man’s life and in fact, apologized to him for scaring him. God be with this young man. Thank you Greg Johnson for a well written essay. The war on internet feee speech just got hotter than hell in mid-July. 🔥
I woke up to racial reality quite late in life. And I do what I can now, including making a regular contribution to Counter-Currents, which I encourage everyone to do.
I regret all the energy and life I wasted being “concerned” about people whom I came to realize are my mortal enemies and who would never waste a second being concerned about me and mine. I can remember the world we used to have and watch it all being given up for the sake of this nightmarish clownshow. I comfort myself, when I’m feeling sorry for myself, with the thought that I will be gone before it gets unbearable. It’s hardly bearable now.
And then I think of what would have happened to me had I awakened to racial reality as a young man, many decades ago, trying to imagine a whole life of this ahead of me, and I had to cope with a knowledge that even now is deeply isolating and stressful. No wonder so many of the old guard White advocates were so messed up. Like Laocoön and Cassandra.
What this young man did was a terrible mistake in every way. But trying to put myself in his desperate shoes for a minute, I just feel profoundly sad for him.
“Thus the New Right stands for the principle of racial divorce. It is time … to go our separate ways and … shifting populations.
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By the “Old Right,” I mean classical Fascism and National Socialism”
It is astonishing that Dr. Johnson is not aware of this contradiction:
One of the defining features of NS is racial divorce, in peacetime by encouraging emigration, in wartime through deportation of enemies.
If by “Old Right,” he had meant LARPing cosplay Nazis, I would agree, but the original NS stood for the same goals, he is defending.
No, not really. Both Germany and Italy were quite comfortable conquering and colonizing other white lands.
Being willing and therefore becoming prepared to fight, and fighting for its own sake are not the same things. Hitler bent over backwards for as long as possible trying to avoid what was probably inevitable.
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The ‘Original NS’ also stood for genociding the Poles as an obstruction to Germany’s eastward expansion, a plan that was gleefully put into effect with assistance from the Bolsheviks. I wonder how popular such ideas are in Europe nowadays?
Nonsense. Hitler would have been delighted to make common cause with Poland as a defense against Bolshevism, but that is the last thing that Albion wanted.
They convinced the Colonels that not only could Poland have Danzig ─ which everybody had already agreed was German ─ but they would be marching into Berlin within a week.
As a last-ditch effort to prevent war, Hitler offered to end the crisis with an agreement for Poland to allow the Germans to build a road and rail connection through the Corridor to Danzig and East Prussia. This was not an unreasonable request for Poland, but it would have defused the Danzig situation and torpedoed Entente hegemony in Eastern Europe unless they could finally get the Soviets to act directly.
The Soviets were only waiting for the highest bid, and that price would be high. In the event, Poland was entirely expendable for the Allies in their cause célèbre of German encirclement.
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Hitler’s Table Talk is genuine, and it reveals that he intended to colonize Russia and Ukraine and turn the natives into little more than serfs. Hitler sometimes made ethnonationalist statements, but at core he was a German imperialist who announced from the start his intention to expand Germany to the east at the expense of the Slavs.
Actually no, Germany didn’t have to invade Poland, Denmark, Norway, Holland, France, and ultimately the Soviet Union and its conquests. Even when giving them the benefit of the doubt, they surely wouldn’t have needed to absorb other peoples and their lands into Germany, with plans to turn most Eastern Europeans into serfs.
Disagree. The raison d’etre for the NSDAP was to defang Bolshevism in Germany, and to end the financial hegemony in Germany by international finance capital (we might call it Globalization today), and to decisively undo the political encirclement of Germany by the Versailles powers ─ all of which was nearly done with the exception of the Danzig Corridor situation.
Hitler would not have attacked Poland over their refusal of his last peace offer if he had realized that the Entente would actually declare war ─ but it would not have mattered in the end because by that point Albion was only looking for any pretext for war with Germany, and was labelling any kind of accommodation with them as “Appeasement.” In order to subjugate Germany and set that clock back to 1919, they were quite willing to fight to the last Belgian, Frenchman, or Eastern European.
Germany had to occupy Norway because First Lord of the Admiralty, Sir Winston Churchill ─ the Germanophobe in Chamberlain’s cabinet ─ was already mining Norwegian waters to prevent German trade with neutral Sweden, and the German occupation only beat the British version by days. Hitler was often able to anticipate what his opponents were going to do.
This rapid German campaign could not have been accomplished without going through neutral Denmark, but this did have the advantage that Denmark could freely trade foodstuffs with Germany, which undermined the Allied naval blockade where neutrals were otherwise forced onto a severe ration system. In the last war this had starved scores of thousands on the continent. Unfortunately, neutrals suffer the whims of the superpowers around them, whether or not they choose their allegiances wisely.
France may have been less enthusiastic about declaring war on Germany than the British, but they upheld their commitment to the Entente by declaring war just the same ─ until they were defeated in the field. Even then Hitler tried not to humiliate France by letting them keep their fleet and the territory not directly imperiled by the ongoing war with England.
The French were repaid for their lack of bellicosity by having their neutral fleet sank by the Royal Navy at Mers-el-Kébir with over a thousand of their sailors killed, and Vichy towns and factories bombed by the RAF in an exemplary fashion lest they might trade with the Germans.
Unfortunately, the British knew that the German Navy was not strong enough to defeat them or support an invasion, so they could safely ignore any German peace offers until rescued by the Americans and/or by grinning Soviets marching Westwards.
Hitler tried to avoid war even with the hated Bolsheviks for as long as possible, but with Albion not budging and the undeclared American belligerents now feeding the Allied war-machine with Lend-Lease and sinking German ships on sight, the Soviets were never going away.
It may be that the Germans never could have won the war ─ but this was not so obvious at the time, and at least they were not willing to give up without a fight, which seems to be a familiar story in our day.
Whatever is meant by Western Civilization, we are stabbed in the back by our erstwhile leaders daily. That is what it must have seemed like for decent and patriotic Germans in the 1920s.
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Mr. Scott,
I appreciate your thorough answer. I do agree that a war in Europe was more or less inevitable, and while it’s nice to be idealistic, I do recognize that great powers attack smaller nations. However, I firmly believe that German aggression against Poland was unnecessary. By August of 1939 Nazi-Germany controlled most of the historically German-speaking lands in Europe, save for Elsass-Lothringen and parts of Prussia. While German claims to these lands were at least partially justified (they had been only recently taken away, and there was a sizeable German minority in these lands), the ultimate outcome of German aggression was appalling. While it would have been nice for the Germans to have these lands, by this time Germany was at the height of her power. There would have been no need to expand her territory, but the Nazi ideology demanded territorial expansion.
What I objected to in my comment was your response to the previous commenter, whose comments on the Nazis wanting to erase Poland you described as ‘nonsense’. I find this miraculous, as it is clear that Nazi-Germany’s plan was to destroy the Polish nation and annex their lands. This would be in preparation for Operation Barbarossa, in which they would ultimately take over and colonize Eastern Europe.
Sorry for being a later comer. I’ve been consistently and keenly interested in the topics of WWII and NS for years, including both their political and military histories. Now I’d like to chime in humbly with my two cents of opinion in an amiable, constructive, and friendly manner.
Generally speaking, I agree with Mr. Perez and especially the clear, objective and insightful views of Mr. Scott. I also understand and consent to some of the views of Greg and a few other gentlemen here opposite to Perez and Scott, albeit with some reservations. I’d like to present my own views and arguments in the following three aspects.
Firstly, in regard to historical-factual and technical points, it is undeniable and incontestable historical truths that Hitler did not want to invade Poland to begin with, instead, he tried hard to seek the later as an ally against the Soviet Union in a fateful conflagration that was bound to happen between Germany and the USSR. It was the arrogant, pugnacious, avaricious, and saber-rattling Poland who had repeatedly provoked Germany with brutal acts of massive ethnic cleansing of the ethnic German minorities within its border that resulted in hundreds of thousands of German civilian deaths. Backed by the promises of the British and French who gave Poland a blank check to be as much aggressive and uncooperative with Germany as possible, Poland even drafted a plan to invade Germany and push its border westward to the Oder River and even dreamed of sacking Berlin in ten days. As a nationalist German leader, Hitler obviously could not bear such lurid provocations and slaughtering of ethnic Germans endlessly by Poland, hence he ordered the attack. In that sense, Hitler just preempted Poland’s own attack on Germany.
It was also historically true that Germany adopted a brutal occupation policy of Poland by treating the Polish people as serfs, ruthlessly oppressing and exploiting Poland’s resources while in the meantime trying to absorb and assimilate some elements of the Polish stock into the German people through selective breeding (carried out by Himmler and his cohorts). But this German position should not be approached and vilified in a categorical and oversimplified manner. While I also admit Germany’s treatment of Poland and later the occupied Soviet territories and their people was overly harsh and needlessly and foolishly antagonizing (I am with Rosenberg on this idea of properly treating the Slavs), I nevertheless offer three points as a refutation to the unconditional blaming of Hitler and NS Germany on its Polish solution:
1) Hitler’s views of the Eastern European especially the Slavic nations were an inevitable historical product of his times and his personal experiences and observation during his youth time before and during the WWI as a former subject of the multicultural and multi-ethnic Austro-Hungarian Empire. He honestly saw and felt how the empire became so enervated, enfeebled, demoralized, and unsustainable due to its multiple “multi-” nature and how unstable, implacable, and impossible-to-discipline and integrate the Slavs were, which shaped, entrenched and solidified his view of the Slavic people and unfortunately also made such a view utterly ossified and inflexible, to the detriment of his own causes years later. So it must be said that while Hitler was obdurate and unwise in his contempt for the Slavic people, the fact had historical background and is at least understandable albeit regrettable. 2) Germany, for all its brutal occupation and exploitation of Poland and its people, did not have any premeditated plan to genocide Poles intentionally or systematically. It did not target Polish elites for extermination unless on proved ground of being members of resistance force. All considered, Germany didn’t have a mind so depraved and sinister as the Soviets to mass murder surrendered Polish army officers at Katyn Forest and blame the crime on someone else (on Germany in that case). 3) Considering Poland’s rabid animosity toward Germany, its militant and swashbuckling anti-German rhetoric and actions and its secret planning to invade Germany, once Poland had carried out its invasion successfully against a unguarded and unprepared Germany, it was not hard at all to imagine that it would at least have done the same to Germany and German people as Germany did to Poland and its people, if not actually worse.
Hitler’s treatment of the occupied Soviet land and its people (vs. an imagined scenario of what the Soviets would have possibly done to Germans and other Western European nations if it was let to fire the first shot) largely fall into the same category of reasoning I proposed here, which were morally wrong and strategically grievously mistaken but not impossible to understand as something with a historical root and perceptual base rather than from a “sadistically murderous mind of a lunatic”.
Secondly, I want to claim, and I remember Greg used to make the same claim, that in spite of Hitler’s errors and flaws, if it was NS Germany won the WWII and got to rule over the White world under the hegemony of the German Third Reich, the White race and her civilization would still be in an infinitely better state than they are now and the world a far better and more decent, just, and honorable place than it is today. After all, despite being a German nationalist, Hitler’s ideas and ideologies i.e., the Old Right, for all their limitations, still much better serve and benefit the White race’s collective interests than the anti-White leftist elites of today’s West for their very nature of cultivating wholesome characters and manhood that accord with the cosmic-organic truths. Under the rule of a NS ideology, no Jewish and leftist mind poisons and depravities would be allowed to exist in White societies, and no replacement level third world immigration, hence no White dispossession, no White genocide, and White survival is assured.
And it must also be noted that Hitler viewed and treated the whole Western and Northern European nations just like Germans. It was indisputable that Hitler loves and respects English, as well as the rest of Germanic nations from the Nordic countries of Sweden, Norway, Denmark to the lowland countries of Holland and Belgium and the Celtic nations such as Irish and Scottish. Even for the French whom Hitler looked down upon a bit from his beliefs and experiences during WWI, he still treated them kindly, gave them much autonomy and let them live their lives largely undisturbed and unmolested after Germany defeated France in the Summer of 1940 and subsequently occupied a large part of the country including Paris until the Autumn of 1944. All these were historically true and irrefutable. So if the NS Germany under Hitler’s leadership defeated the Churchill and FDR regimes and made peace with a pro-German UK and US, the whole Western Europe and North American Continent as well as Australia and NZ would all live under the rule of White racial realist leaders, a quantum leap from the dismal realities of today’s West. When it comes to the Eastern Europe, Hitler’s wrong and disdainful view of Slavic people and treating them as serfs notwithstanding, the policy would most likely change over time. And It is also my belief that after Hitler’s death or retirement years after the German victory in WWII, it is highly likely that his successors would adopt a more pan-European and pan-White view than Hitler himself (it was also alleged that Hitler came to reflect on and revise his view on Slavs after 1944, though it was too late) as time progresses and thus relax or alter Germany’s former policies vis-à-vis the Slavic and other Eastern European peoples. If that would happen one day, as it most probably would, the entire White race that is comprised of all her diverse peoples and nations would all prosper on this planet eventually, free from Jewish and leftist/communist influences.
Thirdly, we should not judge Hitler and his NS movement simply and broadly by our White Identitarian/New Right values and standards of today. To do that would be unfair and unrealistically demanding. As said earlier, Hitler was a product of his times, the best possible leader and hero of the White race to combat international Jewry and its Bolshevist-Financial Capitalist alliance. Hitler was molded by his times, so he ineluctably had some major flaws and limitations which brought his downfall. We White nationalists of today, we in the school of “New Right” may well avoid and eschew overt Hitler and NS symbols as they are indeed “bad optics” that do not help our White nationalist cause today, but deep in our hearts we may well commemorate him and his intrepid struggles, regard him as the forerunner and pioneer of our movement, and hold him in eternal memory and respect. After all, we only progress and advance upon the trials and experiences of our predecessors, including their failures from which we draw valuable lessons, and we can only reach the sky by standing on the shoulders of giants, among whom Hitler is definitely one of the most prominent. Hitler is no God and certainly not impeccable, but as William Luther Pierce indicates in his commemorative piece The Measure of Greatness, Hitler is an immortal figure and a self-made hero of the White, with fundamental differences to the White traitors Churchill and FDR and the White oppressor and enslaver Stalin. All considered, warts and all, Hitler remains my beloved and admired hero.
Phantastic comment from a neutral outsider like myself. I am still astonished that Counter-Currents published it in its entirety.
I would just like to comment to the eternal argument ‘Slavs as Untermenschen’ and Germans wanting to enslave them.
First, the ‘subhuman’ propaganda was World War standard, I and II, not only on the German side, the Allies with their Hun ape posters and Belgian babies were entirely part of it.
Second, German culture, science and industry was not dependent on Slavs, slaves or not. Germans lived with Slavs during centuries, not on the same level, but more or less in peace.
Yes, the Poles needed their own state and this could have been accomplished peacefully, but not by incorporating 2.5 million Germans in their territory. Germans never hated Slavs until they mistreated the German minority and arrogantly claimed German Danzig.
Thank you Mr. Perez, for your kind and encouraging words and the additional viewpoints you provided, which show that you are truly a knowledgeable, objective and fair-minded man. I appreciate your pertinently informative and insightful observations. As a side note, you mentioned you were astonished that CC published my long and dissenting comment in its entirety (as sort of a pleasant surprise), but it’s actually nothing to be surprised. Greg and his comrades here at CC are very just and magnanimous people, who won’t suppress or censor rational, reasonable, cogent, and well-presented views, even if they run digressed from the mainstream track of CC at present.
While I personally found it a pity that CC stopped posting its regular yearly commemorative collection on AH’s birthday, I could understand their intentions of focusing on the more timely and urgent issues on White nationalism and White survival of today and avoiding any possible distractions or chances of miscuing/misdirection to the majority of their targeted readership in the latest context of the NANR movement. After all, some issues need to take precedence as a matter of setting priorities. It is also my strong belief that, deep in his heart, Greg views AH and NS Germany with a rightful and veracious mind of due acknowledgement and respectful criticism based on a truthful and balanced historical perception. You are warmly encouraged to become a member of this great site and/or give your kind and generous donations as you are able and deem proper. Thanks 🙂
I believe this story will disappear for several reasons. The media cannot do this shtick anymore.
My immediate reaction is being sickened by it all because of the predictable media reaction, but something has happened in the last few years where they previously reflexively pinned this sort of thing as cliche and privilege for whites: the center-right no longer goes along with the charade.
I gauge the (formerly) Cuckservative reactions through comment sections based on volume, DR3 and politically-correct lamentations, but also the headlines on Breitbart/Gateway Pundit.
It simply isn’t there anymore. The comments are all making mockery of the media for covering all the details immediately when it is a white guy, but not for when it is nonwhite like it usually is. This is in turn causes a silence in nonwhites because they fear this ‘silent majority’ (significant minority) initiating the ‘when the Saxon began to hate.’
It is as if nonwhites and the media are willing to stand down on this one rather than capitalize on it because they know their fortunes could get much worse if they see this much indifference in whites when something like this happens because the video is awful.
I think another thing is the shooter himself wrote the names of the Waukesha victims on his rifle in a story that was buried by the media, which ruins their narrative.
So there is really no mention at all about victims or the suspect or any of the usual dialogue manufactured in woke university workshops. YouTube seems to be throttling their numbers so that it doesn’t gain viewers and so these comment sections do not blow up with what the man on the street actually believes. But it could also be news fatigue. The same ‘NRA, critical race etc’ reaction seems to be old hat right now.
That is why I will never give up on Cuckservatives. They are our people no matter what anybody says. They are coming around.
Thank you for the swift and cogent response, boss.
Imposters like Gendron lack the character to make a difference through hard work, so they go on shooting sprees. To me, there is no reconciliation with someone lazy, stupid, or selfish enough to do this. His age is no excuse. This risks our all-important objective to recruit support from well-adjusted American patriots. It’s treason.
But I agree with TCM. Americans will remember the lack of hate crime/terrorism charges for the Waukesha massacre and the lack of response to rampant black crime. They recognize the double standard on their own, and here is another example of our (easy to overlook) metapolitical gains that position us well. Once again, the anti-white focus of the system is there for all to see. Now is not the time to apologize, and we have nothing to apologize for.
The presence of an institution making political gains would prevent future acts of mayhem. It would be a beacon of hope and a source of strength. We need an authority figure that says, “Be calm; we’re taking care of the problem.” It’s doubtful this kid would’ve snapped with a power source to guide him into productive behavior. I’m talking about the institution we are creating through Counter-Currents.
The awareness of our situation is too much for some to handle. They snap or sink into despair from the horrible truth and the social alienation it causes. Again, the antidote is to normalize, popularize and ultimately empower white identity, and it all goes back to this.
We’re working on it, and if you’d consider supporting us, please email me at Robert@Counter-Currents.
That is why I will never give up on Cuckservatives. They are our people no matter what anybody says. They are coming around.”
Not to mention, they’re the only people that care. Or, more accurately, have the *potential* to care.
You are correct that it’s a good sign that conservative normies are reacting to this Buffalo shooting with indifference. I remember how much coverage and hand wringing these shootings used to get. The Dylan Roof shooting was in the news for weeks.
But that was 2015. Before Trump, before deplatforming, before the lockdowns, jabs, and stolen 2020 election (I’m a recent convert to that particular theory). The wrath of the eternal Saxon is not yet activated…but its primed.
I saw Jonathan Greenblatt and the ADL issued an immediate statement basically calling for Hate Speech laws and the end of the 1st amendment. He says something like, “legislators must have the will to make the tough choices to pass legislation that holds those who promote white supremacist conspiracy theories accountable.” There’s no legal way to do that in the USA without hate speech laws and repealing the freedom of speech clause in the 1st amendment. Greenblatt knows that too. Not that Jews have any conscious about lying.
What’s even the point of releasing a manifesto after committing mass-murder? “I’m gonna go do some heinous things, by the way, here’s everything that convinced me to do it, so you know exactly what not to believe in.”
It reeks of either stupidity or political antagonism of whatever is being stated in said manifesto.
As per the Unabomber, the idea is to use the killings to publicize your ideas.
Greg do you have the full manifesto?
Would you please publish it? Thanks.
I linked it. Just go there.
Has anyone considered another kind of publicity stunt besides killing people? It just doesn’t seem all that good for business, or creative for that matter. How about scaling a tall building in Manhattan with a big banner for instance, or just handcuffing yourself to government buildings, or dunking pig’s blood on politicians, or hunger strikes… There’s a whole range of non-murderous protests and publicity stunts out there routinely used by the soft left that I think would be well utilized by white advocates.
Why? The DOJ would likely charge it as a hate crime and give you 411 years. Someone in this wartime mindset may be thinking, “Might as well support the kill ratio too”.
I’d consider that great optics. “They jailed a few activists for life just because they tied themselves to a tree!” Of course you’d rather not get jailed at all but it’s hard to slap a guy with a hate crime if he’s not actually endangering anyone but himself.
If you really really want blood that badly why don’t unhinged guys like these who took too many redpills at once just set themselves on fire in front of the White House and release their manifesto online posthumously.
Agree completely. Actually, there are a number of European groups that specialize in banner drops. Then the Hundred Handers specialize in posting stickers:
https://gab.com/Hundred-Handers
https://t.me/s/TheHundredHanders
This man was one of a group of students who stormed the office of Grayson Kirk, President of Columbia University. In the photo, he is posing after having pilfered one of the President’s cigars. His actions, and those of his cohort, have been celebrated by the Regime Media-Entertainment Complex. He was never disciplined by the university (he was on scholarship), let alone criminally charged.
This man was one of a group of protestors who stormed the offices of the Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi. In the photo, he has propped his feet up on her desk. This was declared an “insurrection” by the Regime. His actions, and those of his cohort, have been demonized by the Regime Media-Entertainment Complex. He was imprisoned and placed in solitary confinement for 3 1/2 months before being released on bond; he has been charged with several felony counts and, if convicted, may never see another sunrise.
Pranks would be great fun, and probably quite effective, but when it comes to pranks by the opposition, the Regime is only slightly more indulgent than Kim Il-Sung.
This INTJ strongly agrees. I have seen forty years of this kind of thing and it does not work and it does not help. This is the worst possible “optics.”
As far as the Unabomber, that guy was simply a lunatic who would have his ass handed to him in any kind of fair debate. I would gladly volunteer for his firing squad.
Dr. Johnson’s article makes many good points. We must do better.
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I think it would help racially conscious whites to point out that race-realism and racial consciousness is a two-way street. I think most people here could respect that a working class black community may not want gentrification and and a bunch of white people moving in. They have a style and way of life that whitey is just going to cram. In certain respects leftists against gentrification are also race realists.
It’s unfortunate that people like this scumbag will get lumped up with otherwise well meaning white advocates and race realists. It fits the narrative that the political left wants. That’s why Waukesha was swept under the rug and the ADL in fast for damage control what with the, “we found no extremist motive… BUT! There was some anti-Semitic posts.” Being or playing the victim is a very effective tool in manipulating not only human emotion but politics. The racial arsonists in the media and government have an insurance policy for when non-whites, mostly blacks, are violent. We get months of “mostly peaceful protests” gaslighting and dropped charges while the media and politicians talk about white privilege.
I wonder if Mayorkas did the awkward look monkey puppet meme after all the media outlets did the boilerplate, “the great replacement is a debunked, hurtful, hateful, and anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that Jews advocate for mass migration to make whites a minority.”
Well said. Btw, the ADL was in a hurry to show antisemitic tweets by the Waukesha murderer, tweets dated…drum roll please, 2015. Meantime, he posted plenty of antiwhite messages mere days or weeks (I forget which) before his slaughter of those innocent parade participants. And, news flash to ADL, he didn’t shoot up a synagogue. How despicable of these bastards to make the Waukesha massacre about them!
Notice the agitprop-pushing bullshit artist leftist scum peddling their lies as usual. Darrell Brooks was just a ‘black driver’ whose actions were ‘dubiously seized on by far-right extremists as an example of anti-white crime.’ Man, some people just need… (insert your own punishment for disgusting lies here)
https://www.thedailybeast.com/are-waukesha-parade-victims-names-on-rifle-used-by-payton-gendron-in-buffalo-tops-market-massacre?ref=scroll
Whenever someone lashes out and goes postal, it delivers a propaganda victory to the enemy.
Payton Gendron notes his INTJ status according to the Myers-Briggs personality type indicator test. I believe this is a significant correlation broadly related to our cause, and more specifically, related to those unfortunate souls who choose to blow their wad on lone wolf attacks. I doubt this is exclusive to WN but rather a similar phenomenon would be found amongst the devotees of black nationalism, Islamic jihad or any other movement dedicated to principles of blood, soil, tradition etc.
Being an INTJ myself, I suspected an abundance of us and/or similar personality types amongst the “movement” some years ago. I believe this is due to the suite of traits that comprise the INTJ personality type. “We” have a tendency toward earnestness and conviction. Thus, when discovering our peoples’ plight, some will inevitably race forward taking things to their logical conclusions. This is not only a tactical and strategic mistake, but a counter-productive and immoral act of desperation. It’s what could be referred to as “good initiative, bad judgment.” We have so few high caliber, thoughtful, consciously pro-White Whites that we can ill-afford to prematurely book a one way flight to Valhalla.
Perhaps someone with formal expertise in these matters, such as Edward Dutton, could better flush out the INTJ thesis as it relates to “the movement.” Just as artistic types tend toward emotional sensitivity and salesman types tend toward extroversion, race-conscious types tend to cluster around the cocktail of traits that comprise the INTJ.
tldr: don’t do it you spergy bastard. It’s stupid, wrong, and self defeating. Besides, we need you. Our struggle is a marathon, not a sprint. Find something productive to do. And stop reading the Daily Stormer. It’s trash written by a misfit who pals around with a dwarf jew.
Well put. It’s because we are so atomized, these young people have no older, wiser hearts around to guide them. Nor is that by accident, I guess.
I wonder how many of these spree attackers or other “violent revolutionary” types we’re motivated by the Dailystormer. It would be interesting to do a book where you went around and interviewed them in jail and wrote psychoanalyses. I bet you could get a government grant to fund the project if you approached it from a leftist perspective.
Query: if it would prevent these sorts of attacks, do you guys think Dailystormer should be censored?
“Query: if it would prevent these sorts of attacks, do you guys think Dailystormer should be censored?
Jeffrey Dahmer was obsessed with Return of the Jedi and Exorcist 3. Don’t see anybody censoring or banning those films. 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bFWPQibZwA
Anglin makes great arguments and provides strong critiques of ideas inside and outside the dissident realm. Those people are few and their contributions valuable.
If it were shown that Anglin were actively net undermining objectives, it would be best to first ask him to pull back on the over-the-top rhetoric and disclaim the crazy hyperbole.
Enough. Anglin’s been preaching to get out of the cities and establish yourself in rural communities for months now. Years, actually. He doesn’t advocate mass shootings. Doesn’t even hint at it.
I ignore the parts of his writing I disagree with – such as violent subjugation of women – and read the parts that he’s right about, based on the headline. If anything, this shooter was motivated by WigNat/Atomwaffen garbage, not the Daily Stormer. The Buffalo shooter is a classic VNN tard.
My guess is you don’t like Anglin and Daily Stormer because it’s a Right Wing website through and through, and you want to make Leftism compatible with White Nationalism, which is impossible. And undesirable. Get over it.
No, I just wanted to see some debate. I like anglin, but mostly read him on Unz. He’s got a viewpoint, but is not always factually right about everything.
I sized Anglin up a long time ago and my assessment is not pretty.
But this is a very good question. I’m kind of a free-speech purist so I would not censor DS.
However, the idea that this is in any way representative of anything that it purports to be as far as WN or NS goes, is absurd unless it is just trolling and LARPing.
This seems quite obvious to me ─ but then I grew up long before computers were used to interact socially. The Internet is and can still be a great communications tool, but it has been disappointing.
I am not opposed to clever memes or whatever that attract the interest of the youth as long as they do not become ends in themselves. Twitter “upboats” and real open-debate are not the same animals.
I don’t know what the answer is exactly. In the old days a young man joined the Boy Scouts and then joined the Army. The man-in-the-street was a little more “grounded” (or is that more “based” ?) than Normies are today. Now, aging adolescents stay in their Mom’s basement and learn about life watching Japanese cartoons. Life is a big shoot-’em-up video game.
My fault, your fault, nobody’s fault ─ the older generation has not done a very good job passing on the civilization-tools that are sorely needed for the next generation.
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I think it’s unfair to blame Anglin for these kinds of attacks. People name check the Daily Stormer because of it’s infamy and liberals are particularly afraid of it because it sounds scary but Anglin himself has repeatedly stated that he does not condone terrorism. If anything Anglin has mellowed out over the years, his hyper-Nazi edgelord phase is long gone. There are other things you can disagree with him on but he’s definitely not telling people to go out and shoot up grocery stores. Banning the Daily Stormer is just a half step away from banning Counter-Currents.
Excellent, sound essay, as always. I hate these episodes. Besides being evil in themselves (ie, targeting innocent people), they play right into the Replacers’ hands.
[Ed. note: around paragraph 22 (that might be a slight miscount) you mention “Balliet” when I think you meant to change it to “Gendron”.]
I noticed an error in the second line of paragraph twenty-two. Gendron is referred to as “Balliet”.
Thanks, he was the last guy I used the boilerplate for.
Anybody have a link to the PDF?
https://files.catbox.moe/s3vgj2.pdf
I shared this article with a couple friends, as it really distills WN goals in simple-to-read, persuasive form.
Perhaps one thing we could do to be more aggressive on the meta political front is challenge the dream Normies have, which is this: “Violence and racial hatred can be solved by all of us holding hands and agreeing to ignore our differences for the sake of unity and peace.” Its basically an application of the libertarian principle: “I agree not to hate you, and you agree not to hate me. Then we can live together in the same society, under the same government, with rights and freedoms and prosperity.” I suspect one of the reasons there was a Libertarian-to-WN pipeline back in 2015-2016 is because it was Libertarians who were the first to see the fatal flaws in their own logic.
Nonetheless though, this is the dream of the Normie. Whether they thought it up themselves, or whether it was placed there by “The Elites,” is irrelevant. A dream like that can’t be conquered or discredited by facts and logic. Its felt emotionally. It must be challenged and confronted, emotionally.
If I had the answer for what that challenge looked like, I’d do it myself. Since I don’t have the answer, I’m left to speculate. One idea that could begin to challenge this dream is to present our own WN dream that plays along with the values of our people, and not so much their interests.
The White Nationalist case for how our proposed policies and ideas align with the interests of Whites/European descended peoples is beyond dispute. Its self-evident when one enters this movement and converts. There’s no persuasive argument to be made for how mass immigration or miscegenation benefits the material interests of Whites. The best I’ve heard is, “immigration increases GDP, which increases prosperity, which benefits White people.” That argument is factually wrong, but its also emotionally unappealing: I dont care if my general prosperity is increasing if I’m increasingly a stranger in my own country. And also, crime rates. *drop mic*
White Nationalism has all the answers in terms of interests. But I’ve been convinced for a long time now – since about 2014 – that we don’t provide a compelling answer for the concerns people have over values. I’m not saying we need to take on Nietzsche’e ridiculous project of “reevaluation of values,” but I am saying we need to address legit moral concerns such as: “Why is separation better then figuring out how to live in peace? Isn’t separation effectively the same thing as throwing in the towel on making racial harmony work?”
My meta theory is that the first person who can figure out how to synthesize Christian values, our Classical heritage from Greece and Rome, and the interest-principles of White Nationalism together (the stuff we’ve already got locked down), is going to access the silver bullet that will wake everyone up by next week. Elites, Normies, everyone. The Enemy fears this more then anything else.
And yes, there is a silver bullet.
I don’t know, man. His “manifesto” reads almost like something a fed or a New York Times journalist would type up. Or, maybe, he’s really just retarded.
The Manifesto seems pretty much like previous instances of the same genre, which it is patterned on, and which Gendron sometimes plagiarizes.
Gore Vidal wrote an article for Vanity Fair back in September 2001 about Timothy McVeigh. Vidal was highly suspicious of the authorities lack of transparency in FOIA requests and in hiding particular details in McVeigh’s trial (e.g., not calling on certain suspects for testimony, and so on). In the article Vidal quoted another observer who concluded that McVeigh was a “useful idiot” in a larger operation.
Much of the manifesto looks similar to how the establishment (mainstream media, ADL/FBI, Hollywood, etc.) would characterize a “white supremacist” influenced by internet “hate.” I am suspicious of this whole thing. Of course it will be made into a movie and used for propaganda purposes aimed at a gullible public.
I disagree. This looks like the genuine article to me.
The Germans saw the problems coming 90 years ago, proposing ‘racial divorce‘ and nationalism as a ‘peaceful and humane process of redrawing borders and shifting populations‘.
Now those who are proud to have smashed National Socialism, while the water is up to their necks and rising, are desperately proposing the same solutions.
This could be a ‘Treppenwitz’ (staircase joke) of history as the Germans say, if the consequences were not so dramatic for the White Race.
Reading Anglin, I get some of the same vibes as from Rockwell’s writing in the 1960s: undiluted malice, although Anglin does seem to have a sense of humor. The hatred of women is counterproductive as well. (My mother and my 91-year-old neighbor are good women and race realists, so dismissing women out of hand is absurd.) On the balance, Anglin is offensive and not an asset to the movement.
Supposing this young man tried to organize a White Student Association on his local college campus (in the same manner as the various Black Student Associations)?
Supposing this young man tried to exercise his First Amendment rights by putting up posters saying “It’s OK To Be White” or “White Lives Matter,” or even obtained a permit to hold a rally supporting statues of Confederate leaders?
Supposing this young man attended his local schoolboard meeting and stood up to advocate for pro-White history?
Well, we know what would have happened. He would have been de-platformed, de-financialized, denounced by the mainstream media, declared anathema by libs and cucks alike, likely attacked by mobs, possibly put on a TSA no-fly list, and probably investigated by the Homeland’s political police agencies.
The Regime’s anti-White repression makes it increasingly difficult for White advocates to engage in peaceful IRL dissent, so there will be aberrant individuals who go off the deep end to the detriment of White advocacy overall.
I do not want to give the Regime to much credit for thinking things through, but perhaps one reason for the Regime’s suppression of the First Amendment rights of White advocates is to push the atomized activist into acts of violence which can then be exploited for more repression.
There is another matter.
One of the advantages of White advocacy organizations which can operate IRL (like the hypothetical White Student Union) is that they can maintain a certain discipline in the Movement. Standards can be set and enforced. Patriotic Alternative (UK) does a pretty good job of setting such standards and holding its members accountable. They also provide tactics for lawful activism.
White Nationalists need to mentor young activists and guide them along the correct path. Let’s see some articles and videos on this matter. And then move things into the real world.
People in the movement don’t realize how important memes and shitposting is for the cause. We enlighten (I refuse to say “red pill”) normies with them and our ideas become more popular.
Violence is only justified when peaceful methods fail.
Table Talks should be taken with a shaker of salt. I don’t agree that defending the interests of the Volksdeutsche is the same as either Genocide or imposing Serfdom.
But I will agree that Germany had to invent an imperial policy on the fly once they found themselves fighting a World War and needed to control foreign resources to fight it. This had uneven success, and mistakes were made that more experienced imperial powers might not have made.
Hitler was a Nationalist and was not interested in overseas colonies or ruling foreigners. He was also willing to make plenty of strategic concessions to keep the core strong.
Otherwise, the odd Drang nach Osten rhetoric was common for German nationalism decades before Hitler ─ but the Soviet Union had indeed been arming for just such as showdown since 1928. That is what Stalin’s “Socialism In One Country” was all about ─ burying Germany or some other continental power or continental coalition.
It is not hard for Leftists to (incorrectly) argue than American Manifest Destiny was all about “Imperialism and Genocide,” but try adding a hundred million Bolsheviks sitting on the frontier for another perspective. There was a real threat.
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Well that is David Irving’s thesis in Hitler’s War. Der Onkel Wolf was merely a jovial grognard, snappy dresser and philanthropist who somehow got dragged into bloodiest and most destructive conflict in history (so far). Once can certainly sympathise: it is such a bore having to occupy, decimate and plunder one’s neighbours just to point out how selfish and spiteful they are being! Thankfully, everyone was well and truly dealt a lesson they won’t forget in a hurry.
I think Irving got much of it right. I’m not trying to refight the battles but war is what it is and always has been. Göring and friends were dead about 15 years before I was born. I am just saying that the Good War had many fathers, and I think we are all left as orphans. Obviously, we still have many issues to work out.
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I don’t understand how anyone could think that committing a heinous act such as this helps. And above all – it has been done before. Multiple times. It never worked before, why would anyone think it would work this time? It never accomplishes what they think it will.
Also, I hate how he mixes in some relatively well-articulated thoughts with completely insane ramblings. All this does is ruin the the good points.
I don’t like it either because we just lost a future engineer, but what is done is done and something like this is inevitable anyway. So we can use this to gauge the temperature of the Cuckservative normies, who happen to be the only cohort that actually matters because the center-right is the lynchpin in all of American and Western politics. Their reaction to this ‘tragedy’ (their phrase) has been very peculiar. There hasn’t been white guilt, DR3 hot potato or really anything. So far they have only reacted with sarcasm and double-standards accusation for black shooters. But mostly they have ignored it. This in turn has muted the rejection of nonwhites, leftists and the media. I think Brenton Tarrant really created a template for the lost souls who choose to do this because the media is hamstrung in how it reports the grievance written on the barrel or the commentary/memes of the livestream. They simply have to bury the lede instead of milking it for every shekel or inciting BLM/Antifa like they always do.
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