Counter-Currents
John Earnest
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It happens now with accelerating regularity: a white man who is alarmed at white ethnic displacement goes to a place of worship used by non-whites and starts shooting.
- On Friday, March 15, 2019, a 28-year-old white man, Brenton Tarrant, reportedly entered the Al Noor Mosque and the Linwood Islamic Centre in Christchurch, New Zealand, killing 50 people and wounding around 40 others.
- On Saturday, October 27, 2018, a 46-year-old white man, Robert Bowers, was arrested for entering the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, killing eleven people and wounding six others, including four police officers.
- On Sunday, January 29, 2017, a 27-year-old white man, Alexandre Bissonnette, entered the Islamic Cultural Center in Quebec City, Canada, killed six Muslims gathered for prayer, and injured eight more.
- On Wednesday, June 17, 2015, a 21-year-old white man, Dylann Storm Roof, entered the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, killed nine blacks gathered for Bible study, and injured three more.
- On Sunday, August 5, 2012, a 40-year-old white man, Wade Michael Page, a racist skinhead, opened fire at a Sikh temple near Milwaukee, killing six worshipers and wounding three others. He then shot and killed himself.
And now it has happened again:
- On Saturday, April 27, a John Earnest, a 19-year-old white man reportedly walked into the Chabad synagogue in Poway, California, near Los Angeles and shot two people, killing one. Two others were injured by shrapnel.
Because these shootings all follow the same basic pattern, I have created a boilerplate article responding to them:
- “Understanding the New Zealand Mosque Massacre“
- “Understanding the Pittsburgh Synagogue Massacre“
- “Understanding the Quebec Mosque Massacre“
- “Understanding the Charleston Church Massacre“
- “Understanding the Sikh Temple Massacre“
The basic argument is always the same. I just need to change a few of the particulars.
As a white person, I look down upon the criminals among us. I do not reflexively defend and glorify them. This was a terrible act: immoral, illegal, and politically damaging to white interests. I hope Earnest receives a fair trial and just punishment, but that seems unlikely given the racially charged atmosphere in America today.
We obviously don’t know all the facts yet, but based on the manifesto attributed to Earnest, he believes that Jews are collectively responsible for a long list of historical crimes, including the ongoing genocide of the white race:
Every Jew is responsible for the meticulously planned genocide of the European race. They act as a unit, and every Jew plays his part to enslave the other races around him—whether consciously or subconsciously. Their crimes are endless. For lying and deceiving the public through their exorbitant role in news media; for using usury and banks to enslave nations in debt and control all finances for the purpose of funding evil; for their role in starting wars on a foundation of lies which have costed millions of lives throughout history; for their role in cultural Marxism and communism; for pushing degenerate propaganda in the form of entertainment; for their role in feminism which has enslaved women in sin; for causing many to fall into sin with their role in peddling pornography; for their role in voting for and funding politicians and organizations who use mass immigration to displace the European race; for their large role in every slave trade for the past two-thousand years; for promoting race mixing; for their cruel and bloody history of genocidal behavior; for their persecution of Christians of old (including the prophets of ancient Israel—Jeremiah, Isaiah, etc.), members of the early church (Stephen—whose death at the hands of the Jews was both heart-wrenching and rage-inducing), Christians of modern-day Syria and Palestine, and Christians in White nations; for their degenerate and abominable practices of sexual
perversion and blood libel (you are not forgotten Simon of Trent, the horror that you and countless children have endured at the hands of the Jews will never be forgiven); for not speaking about these crimes; for not attempting to stop the members of their race from committing them. And finally, for their role in the murder of the Son of Man—that is the Christ. Every Jew young and old has contributed to these. For these crimes they deserve nothing but hell.
I will send them there.
I am sure many more facts will come to light in the coming months and at Earnest’s trial. But still, I can say three things with confidence.
First, this could not have happened in a homogeneously white society. It could not have happened if the Poway Chabad synagogue were located in Israel, for instance. I have no desire to absolve John Earnest, much less blame his victims. But he would not be a killer, and his victims would not be dead, if they did not have to coexist in a multicultural society.
When different peoples are forced to live together in the same system, frictions are inevitable. These frictions give rise to misunderstandings, distrust, alienation, and long-simmering resentments, which flare up into hatred, violence, and social upheaval. Earnest’s actions are predictable consequences of multiculturalism. Sadly, we will only see more such violence until white nations regain their sanity and reverse multiculturalism.
Thus the New Right stands for the principle of racial divorce. It is time for whites and non-whites to go our separate ways and pursue our own destinies. We stand for the creation of separate racially homogeneous societies, through the peaceful and humane process of redrawing borders and shifting populations.
In the case of recent immigrant populations, the best solution is for them to return to their homelands. I also think that is the best solution for groups like Jews, Japanese, and Chinese who have been in America for a long time but still maintain strong ties to their homelands. In the case of American Indians and the descendants of black slaves, territorial partition or semi-autonomous reservations would seem to be in order.
Second, we should resist dismissing Earnest with the all-too-easy claim that he was “crazy.” Yes, Earnest did something evil and stupid. But Earnest’s underlying motive — fear of white race replacement — is not irrational or insane. It is a healthy reaction to objective facts. All white people have innate ethnocentric tendencies, wired deep in our brains. We love our own and we fear strangers. As diversity increases, all of us will bear increased psychic costs, even those who pursue wealth and status by selling out their own people in favor of foreigners.
Earnest and people like him may be nothing more than canaries in a coal mine: the first to sense the presence of a threat to the survival of us all. Earnest may have just been abnormally sensitive to the terrible psychic consequences of losing control of our society to aliens: stress, alienation, anger, hatred, rage, etc. Earnest’s manifesto, in particular, is dominated by a tone of depression and hopelessness. This heightened sensitivity might also go along with a whole suite of other abnormal traits. But we dismiss people like Earnest at our own risk. For in the end, all of us will feel the same effects — unless we heed the warning signs and turn back the rising tide of color.
Third, Earnest’s “solution” to his rage and alienation — killing innocent people — just makes the racial situation worse rather than better. We will surely learn a lot more about Earnest’s ideas and affiliations in the coming months. But based on what we know now, we can say that his actions certainly resemble those of racially-motivated spree killers like Brenton Tarrant (whose example he explicitly cites), Robert Bowers (also mentioned by Earnest), Dylann Roof, Anders Behring Breivik, Wade Michael Page, and Frazier Glenn Miller, all of whom are products of what I call “Old Right” thinking.
By the “Old Right,” I mean classical Fascism and National Socialism and their contemporary imitators who believe that White Nationalism can be advanced through such means as one party-politics, terrorism, totalitarianism, imperialism, and genocide. Earnest specifically names Adolf Hitler as one of his inspirations, alongside Jesus Christ, the Apostle Paul, and Martin Luther. Earnest also names Ludwig van Beethoven, Pewdiepie, Moon Man, and Pink Guy. The last three, of course, are mentioned merely as Alt Right in-jokes.
Today’s Old Right scene is rife with fantasies of race war, lone wolf attacks on non-whites, and heroic last stands that end in a hail of police bullets. Intelligent and honorable people have emerged from this milieu. But there have been more than a few spree-killers as well.
This kind of violence is worse than a crime. It is a mistake. It does nothing to advance our cause and much to set us back.
Given that reason, science, and history are all on our side, and the greatest apparatus of coercion and brainwashing in human history is on the enemy’s side, doesn’t it make sense to attack the enemy at his weakest point rather than at his strongest? This is why the North American New Right pursues White Nationalism through intellectual and cultural means: we critique the hegemony of anti-white ideas and seek to establish a counter-hegemony of pro-white ideas.
Only a fool picks a battle he cannot win, and we cannot win with violence. Fortunately, we don’t have to. The Left lost the Cold War but won the peace through the establishment of intellectual and cultural hegemony. We can beat them the same way.
Furthermore, the only form of violence that even has a chance to be productive in halting multiculturalism and non-white immigration would target the people responsible for these policies, not random innocents.
Moreover, killing innocent people (at a place of worship!) has entirely predictable results. First, such violence creates sympathy for the victims. (Even I feel sympathy for them, and I would deport them all tomorrow if I had the power.) Second, it plays into the establishment narrative of evil, crazy, intolerant whites whose freedom of speech and weapons must be taken away.
As I argue in my essay “Against White Nationalist Terrorism,” White Nationalists are making tremendous progress by means of propaganda. We are converting people to our worldview. The more people we convert, the sooner we regain control of our homelands. This is why our enemies are hell-bent on censoring and deplatforming us. They use every shooting spree like Tarrant’s or Earnest’s as a pretext to further clamp down on our freedom of speech, which restricts our ability to change minds and delays the implementation of sane, nationalist policies. And every day we are delayed is paid for in white lives.
John Earnest killed one 60-year-old Jewish woman. But far more white people will die if his deeds lead to further erosions of freedom.
There is some reason to think that Earnest actually intended to encourage deplatforming. First of all, he makes it clear that he took primary inspiration from Tarrant, who expressly wished to provoke a crack-down on free speech and gun ownership. Second, Earnest’s mention of Pewdiepie was clearly patterned on Tarrant’s shout-out, which led to the shutdown of Pewdiepie’s Reddit page.
Was Earnest even thinking about the greater good of our people? Or was he merely indulging in blind, self-destructive spite?
Did he think this is just a game? The references to Pewdiepie, Moon Man, Pink Guy, and other Alt-Right memes are manifestations of the degenerate Alt-Right swamp of ironism, frivolity, and anti-intellectualism that will keep breeding catastrophes until it is drained and replaced with a nobler and more serious ethos.
And how exactly does praising spree killers help White Nationalists establish ourselves as representatives of the long-term best interests of our people?
I wish I could erect a wall between myself and the kind of unstable, undisciplined people who go on killing sprees, but you can’t change the world from a bunker. Thus responsible white advocates need to adopt the next best course of action: (1) we must be alert to the signs of mental instability and inclinations toward violence and rigorously screen out such people, (2) we need to draw clear, unambiguous intellectual lines between New Right and Old Right approaches, and (3) if anyone makes concrete threats of committing such acts in our circles, we need to be the ones to call the police.
The goal is to persuade our people that White Nationalism is the solution to ethnic conflict not the cause of it. Spree killers and the people who celebrate them are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
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63 comments
Of course I agree with almost everything here, but you are not correct to believe that the “slow cleanse” is possible in America. It is too late for that. The only way to get your “racial divorce” is a campaign to divide the United States up within the current legal system (court case or amendment re-legalizing secession, a convention of states, a Senate treaty, a UN treaty) followed by a unilateral declaration of independence when the Enemy balks at the fair offer and when the campaign itself has created the sinews of the new state.
Yes, the alt right was death/nihilism at its very core, and it must be replaced by our peoples’ ancient, life affirming concept of a Universal Order, which is at once the heart of naturalism, ancient religions of the Norse and Vedic societies (urdr/wyrd; rta), and which is the heart even of Christianity through it’s Zoroastrian/Aryan roots (arta and its synergistic companion logos).
Nature abhors a vacuum. Fill the vacuum.
“For the wicked things they say, and the wicked things they do!” Who said that; I know it was on counter-currents? I just want to give credit, where credit is due, for a great saying.
What really seems crazy of him is believing that a random Jewish woman attending a synagogue in a small town in California is responsible for all of those things and deserves to be murdered becasue of it. That’s mad and doesn’t follow from thinking that whites would be best off separating from Jews or that Jews as a group are responsible for them.
The NZ shooter, from what I could glean, although his motivations were depraved and objectively incorrect, thought that targeting innocent people would lead to something else, not that they were actually responsible for enslaving Europeans in North Africa hundreds of years ago etc.
This guy also seems much dumber than either Breivik or the NZ shooter, fortunately since otherwise he probably would have killed more people.
Exactly, when compared to cold-blooded killers like Breivik, Page, Roof, Bowers or Tarrant who were able to swiftly execute their attacks and kill a considerable amount of people Earnest messed his attack up and only managed to kill one Jewish woman and injure 3 Jews whose injuries weren’t life threatening.
Roof had the effect of demonizing Southern Confederate heritage and causing the symbol/statue removal we’re seeing today and to a lesser extent the Charlottesville debacle because the city’s monument was being removed, Bowers essentially gave Gab a bad name as well as deplatforming the company from many financial/app services (including Dissenter) and unfortunately some users particularly Vanguardists are actually celebrating and Tarrant led to Facebook banning explicit promotion of white nationalism as well as the House Congressional Hearing on White Nationalism. What’s Earnest’s foolish attack going to do? well this might as well led to a second hearing on white nationalism since the memories of Christchurch, New Zealand and Colombo and other cities in Sri Lanka as well as Pittsburgh are fresh in the minds of many. I just feel embarassed when I find the Vanguardist/Accelerationist faction of white nationalism celebrating like that Roof cultist group known as the Bowl Patrol of which one of its members a local Washington, D.C. based alt-righter Jeffrey Raphiel Clark got arrested because of his violent threats and rheotric he made on his Gab account “D.C. Bowl Gang” where he celebrated Roof’s idiotic shooting. Johnson you along with Griffin/Wallace, Taylor, Brimelow and Liddell are the only sane and rational white nationalists when compared to outright lunatics like Anglin, Linder, Mackey, Heimbach etc.
The reality is, once they ban us, the only options is to go for milquetoast conservatism. This restricts the debate alienating more. Question is, will the restricted debate keep the Jews in control? Or will the repression radicalize normiecons?
Both?
Uptick in recent shootings by WNs seems connected to disillusionment with Trump
Well-reasoned, with, alas, one deeply and irrevocably fatal flaw.
Separating ourselves from Negroes can NEVER be humane or peaceful. The one thing that blacks must have in order to survive in the US is unfettered access to White civilization, wealth, and largesse.
They know this, and hate themselves for it. You might think that this awareness of their broad-spectrum inferiority would perhaps trigger some self examination and even a determination to improve themselves. But, not so fast. Blacks, in addition to being cursed with double-digit IQ’s, impulsivity and high-time preference, are also burdened with very high (and usually completely unwarranted) self esteem. Which makes them incapable of self-criticism but quite capable of becoming enraged in the face of criticism from others. It’s hard to think of an ethnic group anywhere more fragile and instantly affronted than American Africans.
So…bottom line. To separate ourselves from Negroes could I suppose be done, maybe, in a perfect world or alternate universe, but it will not be humane and certainly not peaceful. It would require in fact people with wills of iron and hearts of stone to accomplish it.
And, sigh, in the meantime, diversity is the most important societal goal, victimhood the most sought-after identity, equality of outcomes the ultimate ideal, and Kamala and Bernie are finalizing their algorithms for distribution of reparations.
I’m almost 59. If I didn’t have children I’d be on my knees praying for the asteroid to hurry up and get here.
“I’m almost 59. If I didn’t have children I’d be on my knees praying for the asteroid to hurry up and get here.”
At age seventy-five I am grateful from the root of my soul to the accident, at age thirteen, that struck me sterile. This mean that, after I discarnate and the cadaver left behind is ashes and air-pollution, the carnage and chaos and upheaval of the Terrible Twenty-first will not touch flesh of mine.
No, what you should be grateful for is having lived in what was, overall, one of the most pleasant times in history, and perhaps the very best time in US history. Think of a place like Nebraska in 1900. There were no more Indian wars. Black criminals, if any were around there, were dealt with justly and expeditiously. There was no diversity, and no bizarre worship of it.
But for most persons, life was hard, assuming you survived birth and childhood (when many did not). Most folks were farmers, and had to struggle like hell to make ends meet. Possessions were few; luxuries which we take for granted, fewer or mostly nonexistent. Many people got crippled in routine work. There were bad diseases, like polio and tuberculosis, floating around. It wasn’t some pre-diversity paradise (Whites ought to never stop reminding nonwhite ingrates just how much THEY OWE US simply for the privilege of being allowed to live in a nation which our people, not theirs, did all the hard work to found, settle and build).
If you were born in 1943 or 44, you grew up in an overwhelmingly White time, unlike our oppressed young people, even those like me born before way before 1980 (the 80s, when I was in college, was when “diversity” was born; it happened around 1985; that was when several of us noticed how that horrid word was suddenly everywhere). You could apply to college and grad school pre-affirmative action. If you were smart, you could get a tenure track professorship. You entered the labor force at a hugely (artificially) prosperous time (though it would have been yet better in that regard to have been born around 1930) with very little immigration. You mostly worked with other Whites, making life far more pleasant than what many of us suffer today. Miscegenation was widely frowned upon (this too even for my generation coming of age in the 80s), meaning that you had a relatively greater selection of White females to choose among for potential spouses (today, 15% or more of White women – often quite attractive ones, too – are poached by other races, radically reducing the eligible pool for White male non-miscegenators).
For most of your adult life you didn’t have to listen to a bunch of ubiquitous shit denigrating your race. I know, because I’m 20 years younger, and while I hated “diversity” crap in college and grad school, it seems to be qualitatively different today, in tandem with growing nonwhite power. Back then the attitude was one of “helping out the {allegedly} disadvantaged”, or not being “mean to minorities”, not the vicious antiwhite raw racial bigotry of today masquerading as (morally and empirically false) “social justice” whining.
I could go on at some length about how fortunate you were in the historical period of your life. Even great plagues, something I and therefore you have never had to worry about (but which were an endemic feature of most of human history), are poised to come roaring back in this century. You grew up in what’s been aptly called “an extraordinary time”, the likes of which we won’t see again. You should be thankful, and you should express your gratitude by devoting what energy and resources you have in your last years to saving and advancing the White race, the source of all the remaining good things in our nation.
There were bad diseases, like polio and tuberculosis, floating around.</i)
Disease doesn't float around looking for supposedly innocent victims to infect. It pops up where weakness already exists and needs to be handled with warning signs called "infectious illness".
Modern medicine is great for some things, like patching people together after a car crash, etc., but is useless and even destructive in its view of sickness in general. If we wish to see ourselves as helpless sitting targets of cruel, unpredictable outside forces, be assured that something or someone will indeed come along to confirm our view of ourselves.
Ridiculous. Pure defeatism. Where there is life, there is hope. Such has always been the view of the finest White men. What happened to “when the going gets tough, the tough get going”?
You’ve won me over.
I’m inspired to be tough and get going.
Now please lay out your detailed plan to turn everything around.
Note: if it involves voting as a remedy, Civil War Two, a White ethnostate, or 10,000 rounds of .223 then it’s probably not a great plan.
Also: glibly tossing out threadbare cliches about “when the going gets tough” doesn’t do much to illuminate the particulars of your plan.
So…besides toughness and getting going, the first step to re-establishing White sovereignty in the United States
is _____________________.
Waiting on you Mr Shang.
So…besides toughness and getting going, the first step to re-establishing White sovereignty in the United States
is ………reading and commenting intelligently on the internet. And discussions at family gatherings.
That should really kick some a$$.
Something apposite I wrote on the thread following Greg Johnson’s other WN terrorism post:
I have thought about this a lot. Metapolitics is fine and even necessary, but time is short. We need concurrent real-world organizing and networking. Minorities have all their “associations” and open, ethnonationalist interest groups. Jews have theirs under cover of religion. Whites need “our thing”, too.
I have thought for decades that the only way to get this off the ground is via (now, neo-Trumpian-style) America First, civic nationalist organizing – which White nationalists can use “undercover” to meet our own kind, until such time as we gradually move the civic nat group far enough to the White Right that most non-WNs either find themselves effectively transforming into WNs, or else gradually drifting away from the group altogether, leaving us in charge of an already structured organization.
Perhaps the old communist approach is the best. We need some anodyne name — Americans for National Renewal – which can attract non-WN Whites, as well as quiet and respectful WNs. We need large numbers to start with. This has always been the problem with WNs. They think they should start out “hardcore”, that signs of strength (which we don’t yet have) will snowball, and that if we start out thinking we’re winners, eventually we will become so as people “worship” the strong and want to follow them. This approach can work in some individual situations, but not in our collective political space at this time.
I know a lot of conservatives who would like to meet up with other conservatives in their cities, if only to make new friends and networking allies (or to meet potential spouses?), but who would shy away from anything overtly WN. What is needed is a slightly right-of-center mass organization, which WNs can then infiltrate for their own purposes. The only real world analogue has been various evangelical churches, which have been in the past highly politicized, albeit over the wrong issues. But Christian churches are simply not the right place for race realist proselytizing (though many White Christians could be led to enmity with the occupationist regime, especially as it grows more in-your-face anti-Christian in tandem with its general persecution of Whites).
The key, however, is to create a mass political organization which appeals to many right-of-center Whites, even if in a very non-political and non-threatening way. Once people have made a commitment to such an organization, it becomes easier to honeycomb it with pro-White infiltrators, who can colonize and transform it over time.
Lord Shang
Posted April 28, 2019 at 7:30 pm
Greg Johnson having reposted this essay on White Nationalist terrorism, I decided to reread the comments, including my own. Ok, this is really the height of “douchebaggery”, I admit, but I think this comment of mine is deserving of extended consideration by every serious WN intellectual and especially activist. The hour is getting late, and the times darker, and while WN terrorism is certainly not any kind of mature or effective approach, at least the terrorists recognize not only the gravity of our cause, and the direness of our circumstances, but the decreasing amount of time we have in which to engage in exclusively intellectual activity (even assuming such activity is aimed at eventually achieving political results).
How do we start having an impact in the real world – even without a metapolitically commanding position? As I have said elsewhere, we’re not going to get from “PC-alpha” to “Ethnostate-omega” in a rapid or linear fashion (ie, “PC-a” ———> decades of metapolitical intellectuality —-> WN political activism -> “Ethnostate-o”). The Ethnostate is not going to simply arise overnight, as though one day 50 or 60 million White Americans suddenly all experience racial Awakening, and a few months later, voila! the Ethnostate. There are all sorts of in-between, ideo-political compromises that will have to be made in the course of a process of gradual radicalization getting from Diversity Hell to White Ethnostate. The key is concurrent political (“community”) organizing along with neverending metapolitics.
I suggest that to start the real world networking needed, we must begin with civic nationalist organizing. After all, if we cannot first bring the immigration invasion to an end, we will never drag enough people all the way to ethnostatism. I think an implicitly (but NOT explicitly) White “America First / MAGA”, low annual dues, mass membership organization could take off very rapidly. The ostensible purpose of this organization would be to support the MAGA agenda, esp wrt immigration reduction or termination, and illegal alien repatriation, but the real purpose would be to provide a meeting place for nationalist Whites to connect with each other in the real world (offline). Whites, especially conservatives, are coming to realize that a) we are being actively targeted, not just politically but with ramifications across our whole lives, and b) there is strength in numbers, and yet c) no one speaks for us, except the generally useless Republicans, and they only in a very unfocused way.
Very few people want to be in the position of heroic dissidents. But when they have organization at their backs, they can and will start articulating their true interests.
His manifesto sure rings the bell, right or wrong. I sure would like to see the media publishing it, word by word.
I would say that these guys achieve a lot, and lately, I have seen the rhetoric mentioning more and more often that one should be careful with the target, preferably those that are responsible. What is there not to like?
We are just witnessing the awakening.
“We stand for the creation of separate racially homogeneous societies, through the peaceful and humane process of redrawing borders and shifting populations.
In the case of recent immigrant populations, the best solution is for them to return to their homelands. I also think that is the best solution for groups like Jews, Japanese, and Chinese who have been in America for a long time but still maintain strong ties to their homelands. In the case of American Indians and the descendants of black slaves, territorial partition or semi-autonomous reservations would seem to be in order.”
White nationalists have no political power presently, and given how uncertain the future is, our future political power and means available are only speculative. So talking only as a broader idea, a vision, anything less than white people restoring their sovereignty in the historical borders of the countries they have created, fought for, and lived in is a sellout. Unless you’re saying that such a vision is now and forever impossible.
White southerners have suffered enough for the sins of their forefathers bringing blacks to this continent. Surrendering their lands to a lesser people as suggested would be intolerable. The same holds for the whites who opened the frontier and whose descendents now receive the majority of Hispanic invaders.
WNs have no political power yet; only ideas. Compromises now only weaken our vision of what we would achieve, and do not broker for anything real. Our homelands belong to us, in whole, and are not up for partition.
What is more useful: envisioning the creation of white homelands as being easy or hard? Because the harder it seems, the fewer people who will consider it possible or desirable.
Which is easier, to imagine a future where whites are dispossessed of the lands their fathers made, to surrender their inheritance to a despicable occupier so they can become a new sort of refugee? Or a future where doing right by your kin requires an uncomfortable struggle beyond the limits of civil debate, beyond that which appears easy?
On principle, our enemies would never allow or condone the expulsion of the smaller minorities unless they lacked the power to stop it. To pose that we could do that, but not assert our sovereignty over the lands populated by the larger minorities, misses that to do the “easier” task at all, the landscape will have shifted so radically that who is to say we could not do the latter? To be capable of one is to be capable of both.
Our current means are nihil politically, and our future limits are unknown, so to define this or that as easy or hard, possible or not, only undercuts what we want and what we belive to be right: a continuance of what our forebearers made for us, in its entirety. It’s all going to be hard; degrees don’t matter.
Ultimately, that question you pose is an appeal to weakness. Visions of the future should appeal to people based on our values, on truth and strength, not the comfort of a democratic electorate. The weak won’t help us; why cater to them?
Like so many of your ilk, you fantasize about what we would do with power but have no sense of what it would take to get there.
Sure, if we had the power to partition the country, we would have the power to send all the blacks away. But we are never going to get power unless we make reasonable concessions to our people’s basic sense of fairness. You don’t get that, because you are probably a sociopath.
But at least you are not Machiavellian. You are akin to the man who says, “Hand me your gun, so I can shoot you with it.”
But keep posturing as a tough-talking hard man (on the internet).
Greg, I know you get comments in response to these articles and events from “people of that ilk”, “sociopaths”, and people “posturing as a hard man”, but to call me any of those things is not a fair or accurate response to what I’ve written and especially to me personally. I’ve been careful to try to direct my questions and comments to what you wrote and ideas at hand, not you; please return the courtesy.
What I’ve stated is a disagreement with what you think are “reasonable concessions to our people’s basic sense of fairness”. I’m not fantasizing about anything; I’ve stated the future is unknown and that our positions should not assume what we’re capable of is small or big, but that our goals should be based on what we feel is just and not “reasonable”; maybe the future will require compromises that make big goals impossible, but that does not mean we should lessen those goals in the first position.
Is it a winning vision for whites in the south and the border states that this “reasonable” possible future, out of the gate, may ask them to sell their homes and move their families to a new country, if they want to live in a place ruled by and for them? Maybe it will be so in near decades, but as I originally said, I would only say so if I thought the idea of keeping our inheritance wholesale was impossible. Which it is not, since relatively it is no more difficult than the idea of having enough power to establish sovereignty for ourselves in the first place anywhere.
The key is “gradual radicalization” This is exactly how our enemies have defeated us. The slow boiling frog – we need to do it in reverse. The stronger we become, the yet stronger we will become. But the White Right, esp in USA, badly needs some victories, or else people will just throw up their hands in despair (whether they should – either as a matter of character, or empirical accuracy re the true state of White preservation and likely future ethnostatism – is irrelevant). Violent acts like this only set us back in the court of public opinion, and allow all of us to be tarred by these repulsive pansies (yes, “pansies” because they lack the fortitude to endure the long struggle; it is dark night today, but how do you know when there might be a sudden reversion to race realism? history is filled with rabid swings of the political pendulum).
Beyond that, however, do you agree that this type of WN terrorism does absolutely nothing to bring us closer to an Ethnostate, nor to advance White genetic interests or improve White quality of life in modern nations? If you disagree, I’d like to know how we as pro-Whites benefitted or will benefit from violent acts like New Zealand, the synagogue shootings, etc?
“…do you agree that this type of WN terrorism does absolutely nothing…?” Yes. As others have said, most critically it hinders the ability to organize and speak freely in the public square. What I had to say is what I wrote, and nothing else.
“Is it a winning vision for whites in the south and the border states that this “reasonable” possible future, out of the gate, may ask them to sell their homes and move their families to a new country, if they want to live in a place ruled by and for them?”
First, people in the South and border states have a better idea whether their lands are salvageable or not because they live there. I’m sure they’ve all given it plenty of thought and would take anything I say on the matter with a hefty pinch of salt.
The important thing is not that it is a winning message but that it is a realistic message. People should know that abandoning ship is a likely possibility. If you say “Well, we have not crossed the point-of-no-return where it’s theoretically impossible yet”, OK, well then what happens in 10 years when it HAS crossed that threshold? People will lose faith in the leadership that over-promised.
It’s a balancing act. Ideally, we want people to be scared enough to get off their asses and do something but not so scared that they become blackpilled. Optimistic enough that they don’t think it’s a futile waste of time but not so optimistic where they become complacent. We want people to think we CAN win BUT ONLY if THEY get off the couch and do something.
The border states like New Mexico and Arizona aren’t as much of an issue because they are newer states and so the people there don’t have as deep roots. Southerners and Texans whose ancestors have been there hundreds of years might not be as receptive to the idea of abandoning ship. So there’s not quite the same “My family has been Arizonans for 10 generations!”
I think his action was useless, but it didn’t make things any worse. Things are about as bad as they can be. If this planet was blown up it would be an improvement.
Dr. Greg, please write a critique of Accelerationism, the idea that it’s better to incite governments to crack down enough to get Whites to revolt now, when we have guns and numbers instead of after 15 years from now when our numbers are reduced by mycegenation, and we have been disarmed.
Let’s not bullshit here. Considering that this shooting occurred after what happened in Christchurch, New Zealand and Colombo and other cities in Sri Lanka I really expect that there are Old Right Vanguardists and Islamist ISIS Wahhabists insane enough to do these types of acts and destroy not only the people they’re targeting lives but also their own whether through getting killing during the attack(s) or capital punishment on death row while in prison.
Although Poway didn’t really kill that many people aside from 1 elderly Jewish woman Lori Gilbert-Kaye who has become a martyr much in the same as Heather Heyer when compared to Oak Creek/Wisconsin, Overland Park, Charleston, Quebec City, Pittsburgh, or Christchurch, New Zealand for that matter nevertheless this shooting at a Chabad has become the first mass shooting of 2019 in the United States to gain such massive media attention because of the targets (ostensibly non-whites/Jews), the fact that it took place on Passover (a Jewish holiday), the open letter and the fact the memories of Christchurch, New Zealand and Pittsburgh are still fresh in the minds of many.
We need avoid the actions of what Vanguardists do on places like 8chan worshipping violent mass murderers or trying to commit random acts of violence against non-whites/Jews not only is this immoral and wrong like what Greg Johnson has said but it will strength the establishment and help justify their actions/policies with someone like Page, Miller, Roof, Bissonnette, Bowers, Tarrant and now Earnest being the useful idiots to do their work for the establishment. Same thing with accelerationism which is basically hoping an apocalyptic collapse/race war breaking out that was embraced by Tarrant in his manifesto.
He was a canary in a coal mine. I’m surprised there aren’t a lot more of these sorts of things. They seem to be occurring at a greater frequency so things are ratcheting up.
Expect more and more of ‘some people did something’. Mimetic escalation.
Divorce isn’t enough. Ever met a Hittite or a Babylonian? But their trouble making contemporary is still with us. Don’t underestimate the lengths to which they will go to get their way.
I was talking about this with a friend of mine and I feel like people like this are gaslit by the mainstream media, but also the worse aspects of alt right that have adopted the mentality “that change can only happen through violence.” Being constantly told that there will be this big demographic shift and the white world is ending over and over makes people go to these sort of extremes. This mentality is very much an eye for eye thought process and a self-indulgence. It is nonetheless incredibly difficult not to feel a great deal of anger over the feeling of being robbed of your future. Sad situation.
Some of us are action-takers in a war.
Some of us are scribblers who care about optics.
Is it real, or is it The Onion? Who can tell with these people?
Haha the internet/blogosphere is crammed and clotted with these keyboard warriors, and there is certainly an Onionesque quality to their fever dreams.
We can only control ourselves.
We can attempt to convince, but that is all the power we have.
I don’t agree with violent spree killing. I don’t agree with murder at all. Our vision is the only one that will give us a peaceful country.
That said, it isn’t in the interests of our elite to have harmony. They want war. They want to destroy whites.
We do not want this. But this is the course they have set us upon.
Pray for peace. . .
Our people are under attack. Constantly, physically, psychologically, economically. Our countries are under attack. Our countries are in the process of being changed into Third World hellholes.
This is murder, this is now The Normal.
I cannot see anything remotely so bad in the actions of these “crazies”. If they are “crazy”, we so called ” normal” people are lobotomized.
Give me an example from the history, where this kind of situation is solved peacefully. I cannot recall any such thing. But, I am listening.
Give me an example of where the abject stupidity of attacking an enemy where he is strongest from a position of weakness is the road to victory.
Eugen Schauman vs. Nikolai Bobrikov.
Btw., I can reassure all that I am NOT an enemy agent. Useful idiot, maybe, though let me say, I do not concur.
Still, no matter, some of our folks will do their thing, anyway. And many of them have read and will read also these pages. That is how people awaken. You see, my fellow comrades, not all are always civilized, and not all have the patience to wait, when they see their people decimated. That is the way it is. That is the way it will be.
Alright,
Make a single suggestion about how to control public opinion. I know that you can’t. This is where the messy and funny Daily Stormer is superior, they do have a slice, small, but I am certain, larger than you think, of public opinion.
Give me a plausible road to victory
Read my work.
I still say that it will come done to unlimited biological warfare.
Power comes from controlling public opinion, not violence. Violence at this point strengthens the system. Anyone on this thread calling for violence is either a government agent or a useful idiot for the government.
Alright,
Make a single suggestion about how to control public opinion. I know that you can’t. This is where the messy and funny Daily Stormer is superior, they do have a slice, small, but I am certain, larger than you think, of public opinion.
You control public opinion exactly the same way our enemies the anti-whites have done: by repeating well-crafted, field-tested terms, talking points and narratives. In our case, we repeat terms, talking points and narratives that discredit anti-whitism, deprogram brainwashed white people, and impose our terminology. To take power you have to CHANGE the way people think.
David Duke presciently promulgated the New Orleans Protocol in 2004 which calls for zero tolerance for violence.
https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Protocol
There used to be an advert on TV for the United Negro Fund that said, ‘A mind is a terrible thing to waste.’ When I read Earnest’s biography and genealogy, his interest in music and his education, I have to paraphrase it, ‘A White Life is a terrible thing to throw away in a kamikazi attack.’
But really, in a nation soggy with the blood of Negro on Negro violence at picnics, carnivals, churches and weddings, as well as school shootings and Latino gang outrages, what does the death of one old yenta really signify? It aint’ a holocaust; we ain’t nowhere near blood geysers and lampshades.
Hello, non-white Pakistani-American here.
While I do doubt the veracity of the White genocide/Great Replacement theories in Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand in some respects and I agree with some left wingers including their opinions just like certain right wingers nevertheless however I am not one of those SJW/left-wing fundamentalists that seeks to censors Johnson or other reasonable voices like him (except the Anglin wackos). I am less Kehinde Andrews and more of a Jesse Lee Peterson fellow traveler type of guy you know that black radio host that welcomes white nationalist voices I don’t seek to join your organization or something but like with even certain left wingers I am not against the viewpoints Johnson or people such as Griffin/Wallace whose blog I’ve read multiple times and interested as well.
I particularly dislike the 1488/neo-Nazi/KKK/Stormfag crowd perpetrated by people like Anglin and his cohorts on that website of his not only do they constantly seek to be as provocative and media garnering as possible to the point where their troll campaigns have caused more trouble than good but they constantly also yell racial epithets on the top of their lungs like there’s no tomorrow crass, crude, vulgar, childish and schlocky on some random story involving a non-white rather than really do an in-depth, concise look at the issue(s) like what Jared Taylor of American Renaissance has done and even celebrate violent murderers such as Anders Behring Breivik (2 articles from that website have very sympathetic titles search them up) and Omar Mateen (the article “Thank You Omar Mateen”) or tried to justify them like that incel Paul Beierle (in “Yoga Shooter was an Incel Reovlutionary”) and school shooter Dimitrios Pagouritis (in “Will the Texas School Shooting Cause Women to Reconsider Systemic Abuse of Men”) for example and don’t get me started on Weev the fact that he would be revealed as Jewish with some Native American ancestry by his mother (Weev confirmed he was a Jew on Reddit back in 2012) he also openly called for the killing of children and other non-whites in “Why I Am Getting a Bowlcut” (a reference to Old Right Vanguardist murderer Dylann Roof and his bowlcut haircut) or when the website declared itself “#1 Rape Legalization Website” (one writer had an article called “Legalization of Rape is Fundamentally Good for America”). We all know Johnson’s thoughts on the Liddell/Ramzpaul-Anglin flame war and Anglin’s website.
Back to what happened in Poway, the reasons as to why this shooting was infamous despite killing only one person is A. The choice of targets (Jews), B. The fact it took place on Passover (a Jewish holiday), C. The connections to the Christchurch and Pittsburgh shooters Brenton Harrison Tarrant and Robert Bowers, D. The memories of said shootings including the Islamist/Wahhabist Sri Lanka Easter Bombings (which killed or injured hundreds) were fresh in the minds of many people. I never really had a fond opinion of Vanguardists violently killing non-whites such as that Satanic cult group known as Atomwaffen Division and this is why as Johnson said we need to seriously avoid getting ourselves into senseless and immoral violence.
And in regards to my thoughts on a New York Times article “Attacks by White Extremists are Growing. So Are Their Connections” they made some errors to falsely claim that the Parkland High School Shooting was an ideological Old Right Vanguardist attack even when it wasn’t aside from maybe the whole Nazi stuff, they also did the same mistake with listing Isla Vista and Umpqua as “white extremist attacks” even though both Rodger and Harper-Mercer were mixed race Incel (involuntary celibate) individuals and was more of a gender targeted attack same thing with the Toronto van attack which was done by an Armenian-Canadian inspired by the former. They also do the same mistake with Munich and Aztec High for one the former was committed by a Iranian-German who had no political motivations as found out by the German police same goes for the latter.
1. Punctuation, dude.
2. Why do you call yourself “Occident”? Why not “Islamabaddy” or something similar?
3. Separation. The one word answer to all of this madness. Universal ethnonational separatism and ethnopolitical self-determination. It’s the only way.
Of course, I’m not a naive WN who thinks everyone will benefit from this policy (though many will). Whites will benefit the most, as we have had the most to lose – and have lost the most – from coercive integration.
1. Thanks for the tip.
2. First of all I’ve lived in the United States (a Western country) my whole life and was born and raised here. Second, in regards to my religion while I do believe in God for that one it’s only cultural in the sense that I do follow it but really just casual and secular while not being too keen on religion just as most Americans (White and non-White) do nowadays. Then again (sorry if this might cause offense to you but bear with me) your account name happens to be named after a Kung Fu Panda villain who’s Chinese obviously.
3. Separation is one potential option and not against it. Of course we can’t really recreate Jim Crow since everyone knows what it was so the nation state way is a good option.
Anglin is very entertaining. He also opposes violence as counterproductive.
Weev, I think the emphasis on Jewishness at one stage was only in the hope of a lighter sentence when he was facing charges for demonstrating an open door (not hacking) at the time. He says it was only one great-grandmother now.
I also am acquainted with Weev from the 00s (‘net only), sometimes very funny, sometimes great exploits, sometimes just being a troll.
He has done a wonderful job of keeping the Stormer on-line. Really brilliant.
Don’t forget, the smarter readers from there will also go on to read CC, TOO, and so on. Probably also National Vanguard at times, I do, it isn’t all LARPing nonsense, many good articles.
Maybe they are unwanted? Most are quite young, and mainly enjoy the humour.
Stormer placed more emphasis on Earnest as a brilliant pianist than anything else.
They did post his ‘open letter’, I found it, especially as a fellow Christian, touching.
Nobody seems to have a realistic plan to halt the slow-motion genocide of people of European descent, except for a few places on a wide crescent from Italy to Russia.
Some already too far gone.
I found the venue and culprit doubtful. I couldn’t imagine this classical-pianist Earnest fellow seeking out a Chabad synagogue in Poway, California. Chabad is largely at odds with mainstream secular Jewish politics, and would not be a logical target for the gunman.
The whole story makes no sense.
But even if this really is just another a phony, trumped-up event, I must say the other side has really upped its game.
I agree with you; I felt doubt as soon as I saw the picture. He looks like he went to private schools. In other pictures, he has perfect teeth, good skin, and a healthy physiognomy (I always look for these signs if someone claims to have had it rough coming up). Somebody has obviously invested a lot of time, and love in him. How much angst could possibly have built up in him? I mean, it’s not like he grew up in a bad environment, spent twenty years in the military, or time in prison. He doesn’t look like he had to cope where the rubber-meets-the-road in this multicultural hell-hole.
For decent people it is never “the right time”.
Although, maybe it is when enemy boots are behind the door at night and they take daddy away to be shot as a “white supremacist”? Maybe then it is “right time”?
No, maybe not. Maybe one risks losing his status as a “decent man”?
Yes, one has to be ever so careful… We cannot hurt the feelings of the decent people…
Still, Solzhenitsyn did not agree. He was sorry that people cowered at home and wished that the boots went somewhere else.
Well, this young man did not.
You come off like a hysterical woman.
False urgency + supreme tactical stupidity = WN mass shooting
Frankly, the NKVD would be doing white people a favor by taking people like you away.
Quite.
I would differ, and dare to say, that the NKVD reference is a bit harsh. But I sure like the more manly attitude.
This is clearly progress.
Thanks coach.
I know you inhabit a moral universe where being called on your bad behavior is construed as a victory, but this will be your last comment here.
I must buy a printer today so I can save and digest all the comments here. I have only been with WN for about 4 months, since getting kicked off FB for posting my own comments similar to what I read here — i.e., I was a ‘unknowing WN’ for years! So glad to have found you. I have learned more about world history, European History as well as who really runs the world and how and why, than ever in college (I have 2 degrees — Art History B.A., 1970 and Library Science, M.A. 1980 and a minor in Russian History, not completed).
Well, here’s my humble take on what we can do — and it will be difficult! First, get women interested in marrying and having kids again. A vast subject, open to comment.
Second: home-schooling; get the kids out of public schools which are pure poison. Let’s write new texts for home-schooling K-12 minds, in addition to Ph.D.-level philosophy. This is something we can do to get women interested in WN — I believe Greg Johnson said there are few women involved now — well, they are half the white population we are ignoring. But most women are “bourgeois” — and I cannot think of a way to divorce them from a “nice white house with a nice white picket fence”. Property ownership is important to women.
Next, I think buying up large swathes of land wherever we can find it and building our own communities is the only way to create white neighborhoods; or getting together in groups and buying up run-down neighborhoods, fixing them up and selling only to people of our own race — giving them a place to live and raise kids away from cities.
Next — How to get around ‘civil rights’ zoning laws? We need lawyers! Urge our people to get educated in law — now, that is hard work that someone must do! Not as romantic as guns and swords, but it is reality in the 21st Century. Also, learning finance, so we can finance our projects — another ‘non-glamorous piece of hard work! Our main enemy is certainly adept at finance and law. That’s a better way to fight.
Well — hope this helps. Again, I haven’t been around that much, but maybe an outsider’s opinion is helpful. It certainly beats shooting women and children at religious services, though those religions are often planning undercover incursions into our lives. Having 3 Islamic congresswomen in public office comes to mind.
Please, let’s keep this dialogue open! Your books and comments have taught me so much in 4 short months, and I hope to read more. But as an older woman, I’ve seen more than many of you, so please excuse my half-baked comments — but let’s build on them.
Good to have you on board Alexandra.. I have only been around for about a year and a half. I am your age. It is a pleasure to see another boomer getting wise There down’t seem to be many of us – though I am not sure how few becuse I am afraid to talk to anyone. In addition to
Counter Currents, you might like Occidental Review. Also Unz Review
Thanks for posting and letting me know that others our age are here. I have been sort of a ‘closet WN’ for most of my life without knowing it existed. When I took the Iowa Tests in High School in 1960, I scored 91 without even studying — no one had ever heard of studying to take a test like that, like they do now. The only subject that lowered my score was math, which I never understood from day one. I got 4 ’99’s in verbal and reading areas. That test separated me from most of my classmates, and also from my stepsister at home, who was half-Hispanic and only scored 49 total. That was my first inkling of ‘inequality’ among humans! I never forgot that, but I instinctively knew it was something I had to keep to myself. NOW I know why! So glad to have found this group! Hallelujah!
I am very “well educated” which means I got lobotomized by post war Jewish Social Science.
It took me the longest time to get over that. Once one sees that Elephant, everything starts to
become clear; but I failed to see it or resisted seeing it for the longest time. Better late than never, huh? One thing that really bugs me is my inability to get together in real time/place with like minded people. Virtual community is good but I long for some old fashioned human togetherness among like minds. Just talking with you is nice though. Glad you responded
It seems a lot of people over 60 are beginning to see the problem. We’ve had ‘equality of all people’ stuffed down our throats all our lives, and also, we were brought up with good manners since childhood — treat everyone nicely. That has helped us get and keep jobs, and not become involved in crime, but I felt I had to ‘stuff down’ my feelings about ‘equality’. However, now that we are being chastised for simply ‘being white’, I am saying “Wait A Damned Minute”! I think this current congress will be a wake-up-call for a lot of people, as will the 21 people running for president. These next 18 months will be one of our best opportunities to calmly put forth ‘the other agenda’ in this country. I am thankful we have so many well-educated, scholarly writers involved here. We have a magnificent base. And your reasoned assessment of the four violent shootings and confrontations will go far toward presenting a reasoned case to the public.
Alexandra, I have met plenty of woke boomers. I actually think they have the potential to be some of the biggest supporters of the White race. Many of them simply don’t know that we are in an existential crisis, and, after living under the most sophisticated propaganda system in the history of mankind, might have a hard time believing it. I think they will be the most angry, out of any group, when they realize how long they’ve been lied to by the govt and how bonkers that is. I’d say they will most likely feel compelled to fix this mess, since it grew up under their watch. After all the smack younger generations have been talking about boomers for this, boomers may actually save us. They might get redemption. Since boomers are vain and selfish, I would not be surprised if they let this happen, just so they can fix it later and claim “greatest generation” status.
All this talk about violence is blather. I can get all the violence I want, living in coastal urban California, by getting on public transit, and making eye contact. Maybe by saying the wrong thing, or wearing a MAGA cap.
My point is this: the powers that lurk on the left would just love to get a piece of me, or others like me. All I have to do is wait, and be ready.
It’s interesting reading people discuss, essentially, weather or not we should go to war. Clausewitz said, “War is politics by other means” – I say, “Politics is war by other means”. To engage in politics, at all, is an attempt at force via proxy. The proxy is owned by us, r-right, guys?
Clausewitz also said, “To introduce into the philosophy of War itself a principle of moderation would be an absurdity”. War is upon us, last I checked, regardless of what we want; And allowing any sort of guilt or capitulation to enter our minds over an impatient dude we don’t control attacking people we don’t care about, is silly.
For me, I plan to avoid war and politics. Have kids if possible.
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