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I have been following the downward trajectory of the America First movement for some time now. The initial Bleeding Kansas of the infighting within Nick Fuentes’ movement has escalated into what people online are beginning to call the Groyper Civil War.
After I wrote my previous article on the issue, it seemed as though things were calming down, and so the America First (AF) movement would continue to slowly decline as it has been since AFPAC II, and eventually fizzle out. However, it is now clear that AF is in a dramatic downward spiral. Indeed, the “movement” has degenerated into nothing more than the equivalent of an online discord fan club or gaming group.
Shortly after my last article on the issue was published, political activist Ryan Sanchez, also known as Culture War Criminal or CWC, let bygones be bygones with Fuentes. The tides of war seemed quelled in AF. Everyone seemed to agree, at least outwardly, that the goal was to continue activism in the US against COVID tyranny and ignore petty drama over inconsequential matters. CWC then made plans to travel from California to join an AF led protest in Springfield, Illinois to bury the hatchet for good and put personal antipathies aside for the sake of activism. However, that is far from how things played out.
A few days prior to the Springfield rally, some inconsequential streamer who apparently had a gripe against both CWC and Fuentes leaked private chats between himself and CWC. In these chats, CWC had vented about his discontent with the state of AF. Apparently, these texts were sent out immediately after Fuentes and his proxies had dog-piled on CWC (see my previous article). Understandably, CWC was disenchanted with AF in the immediate aftermath of his public struggle session. In those texts, CWC called it a “big grift” and said that he was “done with AF.” Obviously, CWC had a change of heart, given that he swallowed his pride and attempted to bring the movement back together again by standing in solidarity with men whom he mistakenly thought were his ideological comrades in Springfield.
Within hours of announcing his plan to attend, AF leaders were jumping down CWC’s throat. Both Beardson and Baked Alaska announced on a public livestream that they planned on “pressing” CWC. Beardson went so far as to shamelessly state that he planned on trying to trigger CWC into physically attacking him so that he could then press federal charges. This is a tactic straight out of an Antifa playbook. The game was on. CWC still made the choice to attend the rally, regardless of the drama. This test of wills is what ignited the Groyper Civil War.
Travis LeBlanc previously covered this happening, but I think he was unaware that CWC was attempting to make up with the Fuentes crew for the greater sake of the movement. I believe his analysis was flawed by this, though he did make an important point.
There seems to be a misunderstanding as to what AF is. Most rank-and-file Groypers see it as a movement, and therefore a scene. The AF hierarchy clearly sees it as a brand first and foremost. There is an inherent dissonance between these two viewpoints. The AF movement has always been referred to as just that, although the rhetoric has slowly changed to shoehorn “AF brand” into the lingo.
Furthermore, Fuentes’ “plan,” which he always harps on about, now seems to boil down to nothing more than growing the AF brand, and by extension, himself. This evinces that the AF hierarchy believes it is a brand more than anything else. However, what matters most in deciding whether AF is a movement or a brand is how the public actually perceives AF. According to the chatter on 4chan, Twitter, and YouTube, its followers overwhelmingly believe that AF has degenerated into a cult and see CWC as the good actor of the saga.
Turning back to the rally, CWC arrived at Springfield in an outfit reminiscent of a 1930s detective, donning a suit, leather coat, and hat. Immediately after arriving at the rally’s entrance, both Baked Alaska and Beardson Beardly pounced. It is quite telling of their priorities that they were right at the entrance to literally gate-keep the event.
It devolved into a shouting match in which a multitude of accusations were thrown both ways. The Baked-Beard duo had a crowd of dozens supporting them and shouting down CWC. Eventually, CWC became tired of the situation and simply walked off smirking. Later on, a similar interaction occurred in which Beardson was verbally reprimanded by MAGA-moms for being a nuisance at the rally and causing infighting. Even the most ordinary of normies seem to recognize this jerk for what he is: A troll who stokes division for thirty pieces of silver. Even among his supposed base, the far Right, it is quite difficult to find anyone who doesn’t hate this bearded hobbit man, whether online or in the real world.
CWC garnered overwhelming support online after defending himself — perhaps 30 to 1. This is telling, as these pro-CWC posters are largely AF, or formerly AF-affiliated people. It also calls into question how relevant the movement truly is months after the mass deplatforming in the wake of January 6. It is no secret that Nick Fuentes has refused to put a watch counter on his personal streaming website, which is highly damning, as all other streaming websites have this feature. This can mean only one thing: that the website, the show, and the movement are dying.
How can it be that, within this somewhat niche community, there is overwhelming support against the community’s main figurehead and his lackeys? This seems to indicate that a majority of AF support has fallen off and scattered in light of the new direction that AF has pursued. In my last article, I wrote against these tendencies toward NEETism, misogyny, inceldom, and so on. However, I was naïve to the fact that not only have these anti-social tendencies been allowed, or even encouraged, but enforced. In the months since January 6 and AFPAC II, Fuentes’ group has fallen from a cutting-edge, energetic political vanguard of the new and young Dissident Right to an incel support group. It is pathetic. It’s no wonder that the old guard of quality Groypers has backed off, along with quality movement leaders such as Jake Lloyd and Scott Greer, to be replaced by edgy 16-year-old irony bros and the Beard-Baked dysfunctional duo.
Let us also remember that there is good reason for CWC to be frustrated with the AF leadership, and not only because of the movement’s current trajectory. Fuentes supposedly has a robust intern team and a war chest of funding through the America First Foundation. He has accomplished nothing with these vast resources, however, except to possibly operate a spy ring to keep tabs on perceived rivals in the movement such as CWC.
To illustrate this, consider the America First Students (AFS) project. An oft-forgotten chapter in the AF saga, it was never treated seriously despite sending a letter to President Trump within weeks of forming. That letter directly affected immigration policy, as it led to an executive order which temporarily stopped 100,000 invaders from entering the country. Fuentes and AFS leader Jaden McNiel rarely if ever interacted with their own organization, and Jaden simply quit the nation-wide project to become Fuentes’ glorified sidekick. Without proper organization, AFS fell apart despite its incredible potential, sadly unappreciated by these incompetent gamers.
These opportunities are allowed to wither and die due to the culture of unaccountability defended by Nycophants. For comparison, consider how unlikely it is that any of us, outside the most Spencerian will-to-power sociopath, would defend the US military when it arrested Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller for “going off-brand” and criticizing the hierarchy when it was clearly called for.
The distinctly negative reaction towards the movement’s proclaimed leader, when juxtaposed with the positive reaction towards the relatively new CWC, indicates that the youth of the New Right are yearning for a strong leader who demonstrates accountability and action. The low turnout at the Springfield rally also corroborates these points. There were about 200 attendees; 100 of them were claimed to have been Nick’s interns, plus an additional 40 who had inside knowledge. This means that only 60 patriots from across the country responded to Fuentes’ call for support at Springfield who weren’t part of his relatively close-knit inner circle. Many of them were boomers who probably learned of the rally from various crossover-friendly activists, like Michelle Malkin.
CWC nevertheless seems intent on continuing to insist on preventing drama and infighting with the AF crew. While his intentions may be noble, there is a major problem with this course of action. The more he avoids confrontation, the less dignified and more cowardly he seems. Furthermore, since the AF leadership is so deeply flawed, it is only a matter of time until there is another confrontation. By avoiding infighting in the short term, CWC may very well be increasing infighting in the long term.
If my analysis is correct, then CWC is an Indian elephant tied to a tree. At first he could not escape the AF tree, but in maturity, he has the strength to escape, but sees the tree (Fuentes) as an all-powerful object. If CWC doesn’t acknowledge this civil war and capitulates without a fight, despite having clearly been able to take on the group’s elite, the far-Right movement in America will continue to be dragged down by AF, which has allowed itself to become yesterday’s movement.
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What can we learn from the death knells of America First? The lessons are not much different from past iterations of the grassroots right such as the Alt Right. Perhaps the greatest new lesson is that quality should not be sacrificed in pursuit of quantity. Fuentes remarked earlier in the debacle that CWC’s revolutionary ethos and “over-serious” demeanor don’t work in his experience. This may or may not be true, but if CWC’s supposedly austere demeanor can sigma-male through 30 incel soy gamers, it is clear that a glorious last stand of quality is superior to pathetic slouching along into the obscurity of quantity.
It has become clear that Fuentes wants to focus on marketing the AF brand, but not America itself. He has sunk to scraping the barrel and appealing to the lowest common denominator. He’s admitted that the purpose of his moronic sidekicks appearing on a BBC docu-hit piece by Louis Theroux is to “go viral” with the younger generation. But who will be attracted by Baked Informant blasting racial slurs in public areas for rent money and generally acting like a menace to society? It probably won’t be the high-quality youngsters.
The former Identity Evropa/American Identity Movement activists turned Groypers who were the Arditi shock troops of the Groyper War and other major operations have been chased off in favor of incel losers. Despite Fuentes’ claim that he made miracles happen in the Groyper War of 2019 (he’s definitely not an egomaniac!), the true miracle was the good-optics young white men, largely Identity Evropa (IE) lads, who embarrassed the nerdy establishment of both the Left and Right. These same men, whom Fuentes heavily relied on whether he likes to admit or not, have now been insulted for their past association with (gasp!) persona non grata Patrick Casey, the former leader of IE.
We can also learn – again — the folly of trusting a man above all else. Fuentes has claimed, with some truth behind it, that people follow a person, not an idea. However, until we find the person, which may be all but impossible, we will be led again and again into dead-ends by megalomaniacs like Richard Spencer.
The Right has been heading towards a coalescence. You yourself may have noticed that an idea you independently came up with was soon later repeated by someone else and then popularized. We are all coming closer together ideologically as more pieces of the truth are revealed by the powers-that-be as they conceal less and less of their true nature. Also, so-called “meme magic” only seems to be intensifying. Even complete normies and centrists are coming around to secession, an idea which only a year ago was exclusively on the fringe. Now, a decisive supermajority of 84% of Trump voters are worried about anti-white discrimination.
Unless a literal Jesus figure emerges, it not only can but must be an idea which guides us, and not an egomaniac with his own motivations.
Another lesson to this iteration of the Dissident Right is the association question. As I wrote in the previous article, you are the company you choose to keep. Fuentes’ folly, very much like Trump’s, was allowing bad or unserious people near power and influence. Fuentes’ almost exclusive association with losers and sycophants despite having a multitude of experienced personalities near him who were early investors in AF — and at personal loss — is simply embarrassing and unforgivable. He has made a point of pushing them all away in favor of his irony bro e-celeb internet friends. He did this to the detriment of thousands of potential activists and the embarrassment of a plethora of respectable commentators who are now associated with an incel nationalist gamer brand that only pretends to be a serious movement when it suits them.
Furthermore, not only does keeping and inviting those of low quality dilute quality in itself, it also drives those quality men who already there out. Quality is attracted to quality. When it becomes apparent that a group has lowered its quality, the high-quality individuals will naturally look elsewhere for a scene which fits what they are looking for. There is a vacuum forming. Let us hope and pray this vacuum is filled soon.
To conclude, this Groyper Civil War will inevitably lead to the disintegration of AF’s last vestiges. However, it can still teach us some lessons about how not to run a dissident movement. Some of these are new, while others are already known:
Lesson 1: Appealing to the lowest common denominator is a failing strategy in a dissident movement that relies on quality over quantity.
Lesson 2: It is easier, and yet counter-productive, to run a movement through a cult of personality rather than a creed that everyone agrees on. We must follow national movements, not personal brands.
Lesson 3: You — and your movement — are the company you keep.
Lesson 4: Choosing low-quality people causes high-quality people to scatter.
Lesson 5: Shunning criticism and good advice is folly.
The Sun is sadly setting on young Fuentes. I am not alone in having once been optimistic about his prospects. He seemed destined for much more, but what has happened cannot be undone. May we remember these lessons when a new, and hopefully better, iteration of American Dissident Right activism sprouts up. We don’t have time for more screwups.
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The lolcow right had from the getgo predetermined breaking points that are now breaking as intended.
Remember when it was rumored that Nick Fuentes got million dollars worth of bitcoin from a secret source a few years ago? That was a predetermined breaking point. Throwing huge amounts of money on these in the end mediocre people creates a brand bubble that can not sustain itself, yet the temporary success attracts leeches, opportunists and grifters. How many online persona of the 2015-16 years are still around? Fuentes probably thought if he surrounded himself with even lesser people they wouldn’t be a competition or internal threat, but such things never play out as we now see. On top of that he promotes a total artificial, synthetic identity that i never realy got my head around cause it can change anytime, despite the total lack of original thought. You can throw billions on such a clique and nothing would happen besides more “incel nationalist gamer brand” normal people who have things going on are repulsed by. It probably goes into overdrive now before it burns out and then Fuentes is where Moleymeme is now in maybe two years.
I still don’t know who/what “baked Alaska” is.
And that proves only that I am still sane.
I don’t know either and I don’t think I care.
It’s good to be ignorant about some things these days. Waste of time.
A very obvious fed or informant who’s been around embarrassing himself and everyone in his vicinity since 2016. Known for smoking pot, being a failed rapper and getting off scot free from entering the capitol on Jan 6th, even though he livestreamed it (and got half our guys banned on Dlive in the process).
Then why hasn’t he been shown the exit yet?
The reason Fuentes is waning is not because of anything he himself did wrong, it’s because my fellow co-ethnics have decided to deplatform him. He was just too effective.
Since I prefer European civilization over my own tribe I send as many shekels to the dissident right as I can. I wanted to do the same for Fuentes but I didn’t because after the Jan. 6 debacle it looked as if law enforcement would be closely monitoring Fuentes. This made supporting Fuentes too risky. I suspect many other people felt the same way. Let me be clear though: this effort to smear AF as a criminal/terrorist organization was an unjust and evil act.
Nothing Fuentes did could save him from such a blow.
The association question is an interesting one. I agree that Baked Alaska is a liability, at best he is a fool and at worst he is an agent provocateur. Any movement or person would do well to avoid that clown. Then again I cringed that TRS maintained contact with Heimbach and Cantwell for as long as it did.
I really hate it when others on the dissident right attack Fuentes. Especially if his movement is going through a rough patch. He needs help/support. Then again his questionable legal status makes that difficult to provide.
“I really hate it when others on the dissident right attack Fuentes.”
For years, right up until the wheels fell off the bandwagon, Fuentes and his slobbering nerd virgin gamer minions relentlessly attacked nearly everyone else on the “dissident right” or whatever it’s being called this week. He pretty much made his bones entirely by counter-signaling the Alt-Right and presenting himself as the safe alternative. He took great delight when any other possible competitor—and he saw them as competitors, not people who agreed about mostly everything—was going through a “rough patch.” They all thought it was hilarious when Cantwell and James Fields got prison sentences. Then he blindly stumbled right into the January 6 optical nightmare trap and is now considered radioactive himself. With all that in mind, seeing him depicted as the innocent victim of mean-spirited slander by people who should be his allies is mighty rich.
I can’t believe Jim Goad replied to my comment.
Ya Fuentes should not have gone after other dissident right wingers as well. I just thought it was in bad taste when TDS would casually call America First gay or say Fuentes did not talk about the JQ (he didn’t talk about it as much as TDS but he had very good videos–now purged–where he discussed it an introductory level that was perfect for redpilling normies).
At the same time it was in bad taste when he called Greg Johnson a gay pagan or when he said Enoch was bad optics.
I still feel bad for him and he was very talented at getting dissident right talking points across. Even if Fuentes was a dick it’s sad that such an effective voice is now all but silenced.
I’m curious what brings a Jewish person to counter-currents/dissident right. I think Zionism and the dissident right are mirror images of each other. Israel is in essence an alt-right ethnostate for Jews.
As for your deplatforming hypothesis, that could be the case. He was getting pretty buddy buddy with Rep. Gosar what with fundraising for him. Even after Jan. 6th, Gosar is still willing to be seen with Fuentes. At that point Fuentes needed to realize that he needed to evolve and adapt. It seems like he prefers the internet subculture of streaming and bloodsports over organizing a real political movement. The thing is, once you get involved with the latter then you have to be pristine when it comes to the optics. You can’t go on killstream and call people, “pokemon b*tch” and “you’re a Jew!”
“Even after Jan. 6th, Gosar is still willing to be seen with Fuentes.”
Gosar denounced “white racism” only hours after appearing at AFPAC: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gosar-racism-remarks/2021/02/27/64f8ffa4-7901-11eb-948d-19472e683521_story.html
I don’t think I need to read Gosar’s disavowal to object to it. After having met with some group, any group, and you are instantly hectored to denounce x, your reply should be ‘if ever I meet with x-ists, you can then ask me to denounce x. Until then, my meeting with the young rapscallions of AF was fantastic and I encourage all of you to learn more about them. Oh, and fuck off.’
After typing all this, a beter reply would be just ‘fuck off’ . Strike out the rest.
I really like Western Civilization–the literature, the architecture, the whole culture that European peoples have produced. I hate the culture that the tribe is bringing in to replace it (a world of strip malls, Marvel movies, corn syrup, and hip hop). If my tribe wins the world will become an uglier place. I don’t want to live in that world. That’s why I side with Europeans. Also I was never big into meeting other Jewish people and going to Jewish events, so I never felt much sympathy for my own tribe.
I would oppose anyone who wanted to destroy European culture; it’s a shame that it’s my own tribe doing it but that’s objectively the case and wishing things where otherwise won’t do much good.
I agree that in principle Zionism and the alt right are mirror images of each other. The problem is that Jews never reciprocate. So if you support Zionism (Jewish nationalism) most Jews will not return the favor and support any form of white nationalism. Most of my family are hard core Jewish nationalists who think America should be multicultural.
‘Most of my family are hard core Jewish nationalists who think America should be multicultural.’
Perfect.
That seems to be par for the course. I know a settler who’s a big RBG fan and wants open borders for America yet he lives in a settlement enclosed in razor wire and is under 24 hour surveillance by the Israeli Army and border police.
Fuentes is young and lacks the wisdom that years working at lower levels can develop.
For example, anyone with experience working with fools and grifters could tell you that Baked Alaska needs running off after listening to him for a few minutes.
“He seemed destined for much more, but what has happened cannot be undone.”
You make it sound like he threw his life away. I’m not a Fuentes fan at all, but it’s not like he’s dead or going to jail for life. He just tied himself to some horrible people. He’s a young guy; he has plenty of time to disassociate with bad people and make better choices in the future.
What was this letter that AFS sent to Trump?
It seems like Nick had to choose between being a serious leader of a serious movement or being another conservative shock jock talking head and chose the latter. I honestly thought Fuentes had the potential to be the next Jared Taylor, a sort of Jared Taylor for the youn’ins. That’s really sad to read about AFS. It could have been a grassroots competitor for Turning Point USA. That’s the one thing the dissident right is lacking and that’s organization. Fuentes could have used his contact with a congressman to get funding and the networking needed to get AFS to really take off. Instead he chose to get embroiled in internet drama and blood sports.
If Fuentes wants to style himself as the leader of the movement he should act like it. Otherwise, he should fully expect to receive some of the attitude that he is famous for dishing out.
I have to second what one of the posters above said about Fuentes surrounding himself with losers to prevent competition. He seems more and more like a mini Spencer with the dark triad personality disorder.
Also, a good leader understands that a rising tide lifts all boats. Fuentes is currently squandering a golden opportunity to lead the movement out of exile through alt tech, which in the long run would make him a hero. A few days ago, he launched a new streaming site/app, Cozy.TV. So far its only Fuentes, Jaden Mcneil and Vincent James who are allowed on it. Supposedly there will be more added, but I doubt it will be many. Admittedly it is technically his and he can do with it what he wants, but it was funded by people who generally wanted a mass revolutionary movement, and who ”trusted the plan”. Instead they got a streamer cartel. This will merely be the old TRS, but for incel gamers who pretend to be Catholic.
Odysee already exists and functions fine as a streaming site.
“America First” was always kind of dumb. It’s unforgiveably stupid in 2021. Donald Trump was the last hope for reconciling the government and country of the United States with the American People. It has been blatantly obvious since at least 2018 that Trump was totally compromised and a blatant kike shill and American Nationalism was consequently doomed.
It was really frustrating to see right wing dissidents like Nick Fuentes and Andrew Anglin go all-in for Trump in 2020, up to and including the debacle in DC on January 6th. It makes you really question their judgement. What followed was tiresomely predictable. Trump, of course, cowardly betrayed his people and effectively killed American Nationalism. What was not predictable was how the Amnats on the dissident right would react.
Andrew Anglin has basically just been hiding under his desk yelling about vaccines and telling people to go hide out in the woods.
I don’t really know where Nick Fuentes goes from here. American Nationalism was kind of his shtick. Without that I don’t know what his plan is. Christianity, I guess? It makes sense he would just focus on his brand rather than any “movement” because the movement he went all-in on is now dead.
Hopefully they get it together. I’m not optimistic.
I think it’s a little premature to be writing Nick’s obituary. He’s still the best among a fairly bad group of choices. He’s very charismatic, very quick-witted, and most of his takes are on point. He’s right about COVID jab passports/mandates/lockdowns, which is all we can do much about right now. (I suppose we could be primarying a few neocon R’s (in addition to Liz Cheney) if we really had our shit together.)
He was wrong to support Trump for so long. He is loyal to a fault, which seems like a feature until you take a closer look at whom he’s loyal TO. He is thin-skinned. He inflicts his repulsive affinity for ghetto music on people who are only interested in his political ideas. He is chronically late, which reinforces the idea that he is an arrogant narcissist who can’t be relied on. He has carried on with the ‘incel’ bit for WAY too long (a day might have been an appropriate length of time.) He is an apologist for Jorge Mario Bergoglio, one of the most evil men of our time (if not, all time.)
But if not Nick, then who? Matt Gebert impresses me. Warren Balogh impresses me. John Doyle impresses me. But can any of them do a show 5 nights a week that is as much fun to watch as America First? I’m doubtful.
You have to be kidding me to praise John Doyle. His rhetoric is on par with Steven Crowder. He doesn’t even talk about race. He has nothing to do with our ideas.
warren balough is the best
Eventually the ‘America’ brand will be toxic among the White (or even just sexually normal) survivors of the Great Reset.
Being a White Identity Nationalist simplifies everything.
I don’t need ‘America’.
I need a White nation dedicated to the Calhounian principle of multiple assymetic power centers preventing any central authority from abusing the (White) People.
Great article bro. I agree with most of it.
“The former Identity Evropa/American Identity Movement activists turned Groypers who were the Arditi shock troops of the Groyper War and other major operations have been chased off in favor of incel losers.”
Using the name of the Arditi to talk about these dorks and losers is hilarious. Please take a step back, read all these breathless accounts of a catfight between minuscule groups of nerds and try to think for one second how this impacts the real world (for example, talking seriously about something called the “Groyper War” is borderline pathological), how normal people would react to seeing all these self-important dweebs fight among themselves, and how this is in any way related to building a real political movement or effecting real political change. I think the sooner intelligent people stop paying attention to these clowns, the sooner they can focus on productive political or even metapolitical work. It’s amazing to see how the American movement never, ever learns from its periodic humiliations, implosions, and in-fighting, and how it seems condemned to be a freakshow as the U.S. continues to disintegrate.
I have to agree, from the outside looking in, it looks just like they write.
This is ultimately unimportant, but hopefully the disintegration of AF is a slight positive for the movement overall. The only thing AF achieved was harassing Charlie Kirk, who himself influences nothing, and further dividing an already fractured movement. The whole episode was embarrassing. The memes and the rhetoric were pale imitations of even the failed Alt-Right. As Greg Johnson says, ultimately our ideas will become popular. But it will be in spite of people like Fuentes and Spencer.
Your description of me as an “inconsequential streamer” is factually incorrect if attempting to portray the “Groyper Civil War” accurately. The entire “war” was catalyzed by comments that were originally made by me during my streams. This would make me wholly consequential to the events that transpired. CWC did not start calling out the lack of maturity/seriousness among Groypers until I pressed the issue (which I was eventually exiled from the movement by Nick personally for doing).
I’m not sure if you’ve rewritten the events out of ignorance or malice but much of what is written here is not accurate.
The subtext here is that incel men are some weird minority group. Though self-identified incels certainly are, I’d say the rate of true inceldom among male college students is around 60%. Whenever you have a movement targetted to college-age men that encourages them to start speaking the truths they knew but always suppressed, some will start saying “let’s be honest, none of us are getting laid.” I understand that Chads see the conversation as extraordinarily cringe and boomers think it’s the least important issue imaginable, but it’s very salient to the male college students Fuentes was targeting. I’ll never forget the day when I was a senior in college and I went to hear a talk on the subject of the decline in religiosity in American youth. The guy was well-spoken but his points about religion were all rather stale. Then he stunned the audience when he said something along the lines of: “if you’re an incel, your friends all know that. They know that if you have a girlfriend, they’d have met her by now. They know that if you were one of these guys who has no girlfriend because he “can’t commit to one girl,” they’d have met more than one girl by now. You can lie to internet but you can’t lie to yourself and you can’t lie to them.”
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