Barbarians from the EastNicholas R. Jeelvy
Few things are as amusing to European nationalists as reading American wignat takes on European politics and government. The results are often doubly amusing when the wignat takes concern Eastern European politics and government. While there are resemblances between Western Europe and North America—one grew out of the other, after all—Eastern Europe is a world apart.
Wignats, or wigger nationalists, are characterized by their low IQ, binary thinking, lack of nuance, and advocacy of solutions that have already been proven insufficient or ineffective to the predicaments facing whites. These people are often uninformed, misinformed, and ill-informed; they are quite susceptible to deception and manipulation; and they’ll often fall for fedposts.
In their binary, unnuanced worldview, there are good guys and bad guys. Wignats struggle to comprehend the model of many overlapping, complementary, and contrasting conspiracies that better defines our world. They tend to believe that the camps of good and bad guys are monolithic and acting in concert, guided from some sort of higher authority. The view of men and nations as a mixture of good and bad, of purity and sin, confuses these boys, bless their hearts.
One of the silliest ideas to come out of this mindset is that Vladimir Putin is based and red-pilled, that he is /ourguy/, and that this automatically means that everyone who opposes Putin and Putin’s Russia is an enemy of white people and the Dissident Right. The binary wignat mindset automatically declares opposition to and hostility towards Russia as neoconservatism. Therefore, it follows that countries like Poland, Georgia, the Baltics, post-Maidan Ukraine, and to a limited extent Finland practice “neocon nationalism.” Yes, friends, I am as amazed as you are. Additionally, Polish hostility towards the ideas and imagery of National Socialism is interpreted by these types as evidence that Poles aren’t as based and red-pilled as we’d initially thought. This is based on ignorance about the meaning of the swastika, Iron Cross, and assorted National Socialist imagery in Poland. Whereas anti-Nazism in the US and Western Europe is a symptom of Leftist hysteria and LARPing, anti-Nazism in Poland and other countries is a sign of patriotism and nationalism. The wignat will repeat the slogan of “no more brother wars” but not understand that brother wars and betrayals did occur in the past and that the marks they left were deep.
Many in the West hope that the Slavs and other Eastern Europeans will help them in their battle over demographic destiny. People like me will help. A significant number, however, are still bitter about the Second World War and our subsequent abandonment to Communism. Many others are disgusted with Western degeneracy and effeminacy and want nothing to do with the West. The wignat in this context is no better than the Boomer who shares the image of the crossed-out swastika and hammer and sickle, believing that the Poles carrying that banner support his brand of color-blind Boomer conservatism. Not only are the Poles not color-blind, but they’d exclude the vast majority of white people from their in-group. Not even fellow Slavs are welcome. In fact, speaking Russian in the streets of Warsaw is a good way to get your ass kicked.
The wignat argues that these peoples support “neocon nationalism” because he knows that the Poles, the Baltic peoples, and others near Russia are apprehensive of or even hostile toward Russia, are generally pro-NATO, and are at least tentatively pro-EU, or at least supportive of the continuing existence of the European Union as a customs union, but opposing its attempts to usurp the sovereignty of nations or force migrants and LGBT issues upon them. Pre-2015, this position towards the European Union was known as soft Euroskepticism, and entailed a desire for a European Union different from what was being offered in Brussels (as opposed to hard Euroskepticism, which opposes the existence of the European Union altogether). In this day and age, however, public opinion has turned hard against the EU, and now the soft Euroskeptics of yore find themselves described as pro-EU. Then there is the whole “You forgot Poland” business, where George W. Bush accurately (!!!) responded to John Kerry in a presidential debate by pointing out that the vanguard of the Iraq invasion included not only the US, UK, and Australia, but also Poland. Poland cannot into space, but it can into Iraq.
Polish support of the EU as a concept (though not in its current form) is understandable. It wants access to the EU labor market so that Poles may go to Western Europe, find work, and send Euros back to Poland, providing foreign currency to the government and helping relieve the pressure on Poland’s lackluster domestic labor markets. NATO participation can be very easily explained by hostility towards and apprehension of Russia and Russian ambitions. Like I said, speaking Russian in Warsaw is a very good way to get yourself dragged into an alley and beaten to within an inch of your life. This manifests in the country’s foreign policy.
The wignat will then respond that Polish hatred and fear of Russia and Russians is unfounded and unjustified because Russia is not hostile or expansionist. The wignat forgets that international relations do not merely exist in the moment, or indeed, the decade. Rather, history is the greatest teacher of grand strategy known to man, and a peaceful Russia at this time does not necessarily mean a peaceful Russia tomorrow, especially in light of an aggressive and expansionist Russia yesterday. There’s also the fact that Russia is a nation of 146 million people, and Poland is a nation of 38 million, and the Baltics, Georgia, Ukraine, and Finland are even smaller. Waking up in a country bordering Russia is what I imagine my short and skinny neighbor feels like when he passes me. Sure, the large man next door whose hobbies include weightlifting, bare-knuckle combat, and target shooting is friendly and polite, but what if . . . what if . . .
There’s also the fact that Putin and indeed any ruler of Russia is very much constrained by her geography. In this excellent and refreshingly lucid article, a geographer explains that Russian foreign policy goals are easy to understand if Western governments would only look at a map. The article has the benefit of having been written prior to the Russia hacking hysteria, and so the author is free to think of Putin as a human being and Russia as a normal nation, rather than as Sauron Sauronovich commanding his Ru’us orcs to march forth from Mordorussia. It’d do you an immense amount of good to read the article, but in brief, Putin desires control over eastern Ukraine, and at some future date Poland, because these are the places where the Eastern European plain is the narrowest and most defensible,which is where a Western attack on Russian soil would be most likely to originate, as has been carried out by innumerable armies in the past. Likewise, Russia needs the Crimea to maintain its naval presence in the Black Sea. It needs to exert influence over the Baltics and Finland in order to maintain its naval presence in the Baltic Sea. And it needs to prop up Assad, because without him, it will lose its only Mediterranean port. It also needs to control Georgia, because it serves as a bastion against the Muslim Middle East and a promontory from which it can exert influence over it.
With all this in mind, it stands to reason that Poland would do anything in order to check Russian power and build up its own defensive capabilities if it is to defend its sovereignty. And sovereignty is important to the Poles. They’ve lived under foreign occupation for long enough to know. They, and all the other countries bordering Russia who would defy her will, value their sovereignty so much that they would break bread with the devil if necessary to remain masters of their own fates.
Even joining the Iraq invasion had a dark logic to it. By sending men into this low-risk conflict, they give their soldiers valuable battlefield experience. The open flatlands of Iraq also helped to prepare them for an eventual confrontation on the European plain. Additionally, NATO membership means access to Western military technology and know-how, as well as Western intelligence—technology, know-how, and intelligence which can be used to fight Russia.
What Poland wants is not very different from what Israel wants—for American military might to be directed against her enemies. The difference is in how the two nations go about securing this objective. The Semitic Israelis do it through subversion and lobbying; the white Poles do it through cooperation and reciprocity. The Poles are forthright; the Israelis are underhanded. The Polish method, as we will later see, has an unexpected benefit. But we already knew this, or at least should have.
So, who’s the bad guy and who’s the good guy? Too naïve? Let me restate that: Who is /ourguuy/ and who isn’t? Difficult to answer. Possibly both, possibly neither. We have to first ask ourselves who we are. And then we have to think of Polish and Russian ambitions and goals in terms of our own ambitions and goals (insofar as we know what those are) and whether we can work together; and also whether we shall work past each other or find ourselves at loggerheads.
I believe we live in a period of history when American global hegemony and the American empire is facing imminent collapse. The players on the world stage either consciously or unconsciously understand that while the American empire is still the primary threat and is powerful enough to be dangerous, its collapse is inevitable, and in its wake, victory will belong to he who is able to fill the vacuum. This presents a problem in which although everyone theoretically wants to defeat the American empire, nobody wants to be the rock against which the empire breaks, for fear of being weakened by the conflict and later falling victim to other rivals. Some nations aren’t in the running to fill the vacuum and take over as empires, but still have an interest in growing stronger and remaining strong, because this gives them bargaining power against any ascendant new hegemony.
Poland has allied itself to the American empire, but it has not shackled itself to it. Unlike Israel, whose infiltration and lobbying operation has joined it at the hip to the American empire (the same can be said of Saudi Arabia), Poland will not necessarily share the fate of the American Empire because it can defend itself independently, even from a resurgent Russia. It can even form a regional alliance with the Baltic States, Finland, Ukraine, and its historical ally Hungary to counter Russian power. This is the “Intermarium” imagined by Poland’s inter-war geopolitical strategist Marshall Pilsudski. When the time comes, Poland has the option of decoupling itself from the West.
A final note on Ukraine. As I have waxed poetic in an earlier review of a piece of romantic literature, history has proven that Ukraine cannot be governed effectively from Warsaw, Vienna, or Moscow, and indeed, Washington and Brussels have proven themselves equally unable to do so in recent years. It’s a piece of land which is difficult to defend and rich in natural resources. It will therefore always see warfare. The current Ukrainian government is corrupt to the core, and indeed this is a feature, rather than a bug, of the Euromaidan phenomenon.
However, this struggle for independence from Russia, though financed by Soros and the State Department, has created something new in the Ukraine, something vigorous. Hard to believe, isn’t it, that someone can take money from Jews and liberals and build something great with it. Welcome to Eastern Europe, friends, a very low-trust society, where deceptions are many, overlapping, and make a mockery of the truth. International Jewry has had a ball with deceiving naïve, high-trust Westerners. Here in the East, we’re not only naturally suspicious of outsiders and especially Westerners, Jews, and Western Jews, we’re Jewier than the Jews in our business dealings. Expect to get overcharged for a service you’re never gonna get. And then get sued.
I’m exaggerating, of course, and the East is full of Soros’ creatures who are very apt at spreading poison, particularly among our elites. Yet there is a resistance, there is institutional backing for such resistance in many countries, and a hope for the future. The Ukrainian people are in all likelihood nearing the conclusion of ethnogenesis, the process by which nations come into being. They’ve lived in the shadow of Poland, Russia, Austria, and the Tatars for so long that they’ve had no chance to bloom. Maybe the Euromaidan has backfired horribly on globohomo and brought forth a new European nation. Maybe.
Brother wars are tragic. Yet in a sense, they are inevitable. The non-whites of the world are only a credible threat to whites in this day and age due to the decadence of the West and our unwillingness to fight back against their predations. However, in the fullness of time, there will be a civilizational resurgence, and that resurgent civilization will beat back the non-white menace with relative ease and turn its attention to worthier foes—other white people, at which point the cycle of degeneration will start again. Perhaps it is our fate to do this forever.
In any case, we have to abandon sophomoric moralism and ideas about people halfway across the world being /ourguys/. We are descendants of the Indo-European aristocrats who fought each other to the death for pure prestige. It is in our nature to be warriors, and warriors seek out worthy foes. In the wake of our decadent age, victory and prestige await in combat. There’s never a dull moment on the steppes.
Prioritizing Prestige Over Accomplishment: Britain from 1950 to 1956
Nueva Derecha vs. Vieja Derecha Capítulo 2: Hegemonía
Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 535 Ask Me Anything
Biden and Bibi
George Friedman’s The Next 100 Years
Martinez Contra Fascism
The Turning Point in Ukraine?
Liberal Anti-Democracy, Chapter 4, Part 2: The Post-War Consensus
The future is hard to predict. Europeans always bark at Americans for trying to comment on their politics but Europe is just a few steps behind America.
If, before WW2, you tried to create a white identity in America, you would get push back from all the different ethnicities. But, add a few racial minorities, a common market to move around in, a universal entertainment source, then intermarriage among all those cultures, and you can create a unique white identity.
What is the EU if not a shadow of the Articles of Confederation? Today, every white guy knows that a part of his cities are foreign territory, everyone can move to another white culture then have children who will float above those two cultures never being truly immersed in either, and he can learn all of this with the internet sharing the same memes.
It is possible that Europeans will arrest this development. However, the forces that made those wignats, misinformed as they are, is chewing on all of Europe right now.
In terms of demographic and cultural trends, yes. But we already have an aggressive and energetic political class. Even if we lose an election or two, there will be no collapse. As Orbán said a couple of days ago, what matters is not the size of the dog, but its gameness.
As far as I can tell, “wignats” are the most virulently anti-Putin. Groups like AWD and their affiliates are at least nominally-anti Russian to my knowledge, as to where those concerned with “optics” to a great degree (Occidental dissent, the daily stormer) are those who go to bat for Putin the most frequently even though he’s shown himself to be an anti-white force time and time again
Just be ready for when the Sakas return
Polish nationalism is stuck in a backward looking anti-German (and anti-Russian) resentment, clinging to a false historical victim narrative.
False historical narrative? So, what you’re saying is that Poland wasn’t partitioned between Germany, Russia and Austria and was not under foreign occupation for almost two centuries?
And how was it not their own fault?
(I ask the same question of my fellow Hungarians who can’t stop wailing about the Habsburg “occupation”. It was our fault. Let’s learn from it and move on.)
“Fault” is the wrong framework for thinking about these things. History happened how it happened, certain things from history will probably repeat themselves, nations act as they act, there is no good or bad about it.
Accept history, take inventory of yourself and your surroundings and act accordingly. The Poles are doing that. The Russians are doing that. Westerners aren’t doing it, which is bad enough, but they also insist this folly is the right thing to do and then presume to tell the Russians and Poles what to do.
I am in agreement with you. A European viewpoint seems impossible for Polish thinking to assume, it always is centered on Poland and looking backward.
” International Jewry has had a ball with deceiving naïve, high-trust Westerners. Here in the East, we’re not only naturally suspicious of outsiders and especially Westerners, Jews, and Western Jews”
Considering that the economies of eastern Europe were to a much greater extent dominated by the tribe in comparison to Western Europe this seems to refute your notion that you are more resilient to their influence. It was also in Western Europe that movements against their influence actually succeeded, the Iron Guard and the Hungarian Fascist came very close to taking power in their own right. The only reason the east is momentarily less pozed was due to the Soviet Union purging their influence between the 40s-50s and the anti-bourgeoisie nature of Stalinist communism.
Now that western capital floats eastern European economies the poz will spread very quickly throughout your countries. Unless you unhook from the American economic/media system this is inevitable. But, eastern European countries are nowhere near large enough to attempt such a thing, economic autarky probably could only be achieved on a European wide scale which requires a resurgent Western Europe.
In my personal experience traveling in the east and meeting easterners in Western Europe I have found they are now more traditional than the west but, especially the women, those I meet more and more resemble western Europeans in their ideology. The horror of multiculturalism might prevent many migrants from eventually being allowed east even for a liberal shifting population, but socially the East will come to resemble the West in a few decades. There is very little to stop it when American and Western European media saturate your market, when many millions of eastern work in the west, and then return not to mention the NGOs and your internal subversives.
Economic autarky is not necessary, only cultural autarky. The nations of E. Europe can stand on their own two feet in the realm of culture due to the unique nature of cultural worth.
Can I ask why the author did not mention Romania in his list of possible allies against Russia, such as the Intermarium project? Is it just an omission, or something deeper? Or maybe it is a sort of absence of the country in the public consciousness, as opposed to Poland and especially Hungary?
Romania isn’t a core Intermarium country. An alliance with Romania (and possibly Bulgaria) could hypothetically check Russian naval power in the Black Sea, but it is less pertinent with regard to the politicking over the European Plain, which is the main source of Russo-polish tensions.
It won’t happen. They should make a deal with Sauronovich. Russia isn’t going anywhere in the foreseeable future, and no great power would tolerate hostile armies near its borders. What would be the US reaction if Russia started to build military bases in Vancouver and Toronto?
Communism destroyed the nobility of Eastern Europe, so there’s quite a lot of Jewiness, even in respectable-looking middle class people. But certain segments of the oligarchy, like Orbánistan, are non-Jewy, and there’s a kind of brutal honesty in their operations. Hopefully it will trickle down. (The honesty, not the brutality.)
Ukrainians have just unelected their jingoistic Jew, and elected a more low-key Jew to run their affairs. These vigorous comrades are invisible in parliament or the polls. They make cool videos though.
What a retarded article — “taking sides in intra-butthurt belt …[snip]
[Wow that was a nice little rant there. You obviously worked real hard on it. It would be a shame if someone just condemned it to oblivion.–GJ]
Right on GJ — I’m heartbroken [snip]
Very interesting article. Nice to learn about the European East, a subject I know even less about than the European West. Obviously, America should just stay out of Europe altogether. We can debate the Cold War/NATO all day, but since 1991, America has been a liberal occupying force in Europe, bolstering the EU and stymieing indigenous ethnonationalist movements. We also have provided the illusion of security, which is turn has enervated the domestic European martial traditions, and allowed the Europeans not only to underfund their own defense forces, but to waste those savings expanding their character-sapping welfare states (and subsidizing the import of nonwhite ‘benefits’ parasites, such that the natives have been less than fully aware of the economic costs of nonwhite immigration – and therefore less restrictionist than they might otherwise have been).
Comments are closed.
If you have Paywall access,
simply login first to see your comment auto-approved.
Note on comments privacy & moderation
Your email is never published nor shared.
Comments are moderated. If you don't see your comment, please be patient. If approved, it will appear here soon. Do not post your comment a second time.
Edit your comment