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There’s a conspiracy theory going around that I think is really stupid, and yet it is being promoted by some whose intelligence I respect. I now feel the need to publicly explain at length why this theory is nonsense.
It is known that Jeffrey Epstein was sex-trafficking underage girls. The majority of the girls trafficked were of high-school age, but I have seen reports that there were some girls as young as 11. Epstein would have the girls transported to his sex palace in the Virgin Islands, where they were made to have intimate relations with elite men. I do not dispute this.
It is also known that there were hidden cameras in his sex palace and that some men may have been filmed while in sexual congress with the aforementioned underage girls. I do not dispute this, either.
It is also alleged that Jeffrey Epstein was secretly working for Mossad. I likewise do not dispute this. While I am officially agnostic on this point, I lean towards “probably” due to the overwhelming amount of circumstantial evidence.
The part of the conspiracy theory I dispute is the idea that Epstein Island was an intricate blackmailing operation. The theory goes that members of the elite were lured to Epstein Island and then induced to have sex with underage girls in wired-up rooms, after which the Zionist Occupation Government (ZOG) would approach the luckless victim, telling him that he would have to do whatever they ordered or else he would be exposed as a pedophile. Ergo, the reason why our elite class is so committed to supporting Zionism is because ZOG has evidence of them committing illegal sex acts with minors. This is quite dumb once you think about it — but only after you think about it.
On the surface, it would seem to make a degree of sense. Pedophilia is the ultimate taboo. Any association with pedophilia is at best a social death sentence, and at worst it will land you in jail, where you will end up having sexual congress with large negroes. Thus, you would think that if Person A had evidence of Person B being a pedophile, Person A would have an incredible amount of leverage over Person B.
Now, it would be easy to say that there’s simply no evidence that Epstein’s island was a blackmailing operation, but that would be a cop-out. There are lots of things that I believe in that I cannot prove. For example, I can’t prove that Epstein didn’t kill himself. It would not violate the laws of physics if that were true, but the conveniently non-functional cameras and the conveniently napping guards are a little too perfect for me to put it down to coincidence. I also can’t prove that it wasn’t Osama bin Laden’s body that the US military dumped into the ocean on May 2, 2011, but the establishment’s curious refusal to substantiate their claims and absurd explanations for why they don’t — “It would be culturally insensitive?” – a well as their insistence that I take them at their word do not sit well with me.
My issue with the Epstein blackmail conspiracy is not that there is no evidence for it, but rather that it doesn’t even make sense is theory. Blackmail requires more than just obtaining compromising information on someone. The perp also has to be willing and able to follow through with his threat if the victim refuses to comply. The question is, “How does ZOG follow through on the threat without also incriminating themselves?” I’ve asked this question of many people, and have yet to get a satisfactory answer. The thing that no one promoting the Epstein blackmail theory seems to consider is what following through with the threat would actually look like. So let’s think this through.
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Congressman Joe Blow goes to Epstein Island and is introduced to a 15-year-old sex worker. They go off and have sex in front of a bunch of hidden cameras. The next week, Rep. Joe Blow is contacted by ZOG, who tells him: “Mwah-ha-ha! We now have evidence that you are a pedophile! You work for us!” Rep. Joe Blow responds: “Fuck you. I’m not going to do it.”
Now what? Having been rebuffed by Rep. Joe Blow, ZOG sends the video to the police. But how do the police know that the girl is underage and not merely a young-looking adult? They’d have to identify the girl. Then, once the girl is identified, one of two things will happen. She will either refuse to cooperate with the police, in which case that’s a blackmail fail, or she does cooperate and a lot of uncomfortable questions follow. Who took her to the island? Who originally approached her? Who paid her? No teenage girl is going to know how to stand up under a police interrogation, and she will eventually spill her guts. Said blackmail would then blow back on the perp.
This is besides the question of what the victim will do. Say ZOG releases the video, and then its victim publicizes the threatening messages from them. A lot of people make a big deal out of a 2018 New York Times article where Epstein said that he had dirt on a number of elite figures. Perhaps so, but those elite figures likewise had dirt on Epstein. We thus have a mutually-assured-destruction scenario where Jeffrey Epstein knows that these guys bang underage girls, while those guys know that Epstein is a pimp of underage girls. Each party has kompromat on the other. This keeps everyone honest — or at least as honest as one can possibly be while still being a pedophile.
One person offered me rebuttal:
They wouldn’t send the video to police, lol. They would just release it online, obviously, completely anonymously with no context. That’s the implied threat.
That still doesn’t resolve the problem of the girl being a wild card. Say ZOG anonymously releases a compromising video online. The girl would still need to be identified in order to prove that she was underage at the time it was made. And once the girl is identified, she implicates the perp.
But let’s say that ZOG finds a way around this. Maybe they could kill the girl and then release the video. That’s a little too Hollywood, but let’s look at it for the sake of argument. A less Hollywood resolution would be to simply buy the girl off or threaten her into silence. Even then, you still have the girl’s parents, who are another wild card. But for the moment, let’s say that ZOG buys off the girl and the parents. There’s still yet another problem: ZOG would only be able to pull the trigger once, and then the op would be over.
A few weeks after our friend, Rep. Joe Blow, goes to Epstein Island, a video of him banging a 15-year-old drops online. Who in their right mind would ever go to Epstein Island after that? The answer is no one. ZOG would have to start all over again with a new Epstein, a new island, and a whole new operation.
This is why the number one rule of sex work is that you do not disclose information about your clients, because no one will go to a prostitute if there is even a slight chance she or her pimp will talk about it. Thus, at most ZOG could bluff — i.e., threaten blackmail, but then not actually follow through if their bluff is called.
Now, one thing ZOG could do is send the video of Joe Blow banging a 15-year-old to his wife and bust up their marriage. But then again, they wouldn’t need underage girls in order to do that.
The correct way to carry out a sex blackmail scheme
A successful criminal is not one who commits a lot of crimes. Committing a crime is relatively easy; the tricky part is committing a crime without getting caught. This requires thinking two steps ahead of law enforcement. So how does one pull off an underage sex blackmail scheme without being caught?
First, you need to rent a hotel room or a house under a false name. You then wire it up with hidden cameras and microphones. You find an underage girl. I have no advice on how to do this, but I imagine that it would involve burner phones and/or a disposable e-mail address. You then find some way to arrange a meeting between the girl and your target. Maybe you would have her “accidentally” meet the guy at an event and invite him back to her place, or something like that. I dunno; be creative and have fun with it.
Once you’ve done that, you are ready to pull the trigger if the target refuses to cave in to your threats. You can send the video to the police, who will then be led down a blind alley of fake names and deactivated phone numbers.
What you most certainly would not want to do is to have the crime take place at a place that is registered under your name. That’s just asking to made an accessory.
Getting caught banging teenage is not the death sentence people say it is
Now, I don’t want to be one of those “hebephilia is not the same as pedophilia” people. I’m not trying to be an apologist here, but I do believe that the majority of people do not consider sex with high-school-aged girls to be pedophilia in the same sense as those who have sex with 8-year-olds. There have been high-profile people who have survived and even thrived after getting caught banging teenage girls.
In 1988, a sex tape leaked of then-24-year-old Rob Lowe having a threesome with a 22-year-old and her 16-year-old friend. Sure, it was bad press. It destroyed Lowe’s nice-guy, heartthrob image that he had cultivated throughout the 1980s, and his career took a hit for a time. He survived by switching from playing romantic leads to villains. He leaned into his new bad-guy image. Lowe’s first movie after the scandal was the criminally underrated Bad Influence, where he plays a sociopath who befriends James Spader and then proceeds to ruin his life in creative and sadistic ways. He then played villains in Wayne’s World, Tommy Boy, and the Austin Powers series before being cast in The West Wing, where he was the lead in its early seasons.
It is also public knowledge that just about every rock star in the 1970s from David Bowie to Led Zeppelin was banging underage girls. In the early 1970s there was even a clique of underage groupies in Los Angeles known as “the Baby Groupies.” The most famous of them were Sable Starr and Starr’s friend and sometimes rival, Lori Mattix. From Sable Starr’s Wikipedia entry:
Starr first attended concerts around Los Angeles in late 1968 at the age of 11, together with older friends who had dropped out of school. She claimed to have lost her virginity when she was 12 to Spirit guitarist Randy California after a gig at Topanga, California. Iggy Pop slept with her when she was 13, as reflected in his song “Look Away.” Starr also claimed to have had relationships with David Bowie, Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, and Johnny Thunders.
This stuff is public knowledge. The opening line to Iggy Pop’s song “Look Away” is literally “I slept with Sable when she was 13.” He wasn’t even trying to hide it, and yet people kept buying his records and going to his concerts.
Sable Starr died from cancer in 2009. We know a lot more about Lori Mattix’s history, as she is still alive and telling her tales. From her Wikipedia entry:
She is perhaps best known for an interview with Thrillist in 2015 in which she made allegations of being involved in sexual relationships with David Bowie, Jimmy Page, and Mick Jagger; these are relationships which would have occurred while she was underage and while the musicians were in their twenties, although her connections to Bowie and Jagger are disputed.
On Lori Mattix’s relationship with Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page:
In June 1972, while Led Zeppelin were in Los Angeles for their 1972 North American tour, Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page, who was 28 at the time, began a relationship with 13-year-old Mattix. Mattix claims the relationship began by her being “basically kidnapped” by Led Zeppelin’s tour manager Richard Cole and brought to Page’s hotel room. According to Rolling Stone, Page went to great lengths to keep the relationship a secret due to it being illegal and statutory rape. . . . Their relationship lasted for more than two years, ending in 1975. Mattix claimed she ended the relationship when she was 16 years old after finding Page in bed with Bebe Buell. Buell gave an alternate version of these events, claiming that despite the fact that Mattix “had given herself exclusively to Jimmy (Page) from age 14 to 16,” she was barred by Page’s security from seeing him once he began dating Buell.
Lori Mattix’s relationship with Jimmy Page has been extremely well-documented and has been confirmed by multiple witnesses close to him. Robert Plant has said that the Led Zeppelin song “Sick Again” is about the underage groupie scene in Los Angeles:
From the window of a rented limousine
I caught your pretty blue eyes.
One day soon you’re gonna’ reach sixteen
Painted lady in the city of lies.
Ooh, do you, know my name?
Do I, look the same?
You know I’m the one you want, baby
I must be the one you need, yeah!
Clutchin’ pages from your teenage dream
In the lobby of the Hotel Paradise.
Through the circus of the L.A. queens
How fast you learn the downhill slide.
Oh, how you, play the game.
Still don’t, know your name.
You know I’m the one you want, baby
Whooh, yes, I got to be the one you need, need, need, need
Yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah.
Oh, you got to tell me.
Just a minute, just a minute.
Lips like cherries, and the brow of a queen
Come on, flash across your eyes.
Said you dug me since you were thirteen
Then you giggle as you heav an’ sigh.
Ooh, do ‘ya, know my name
Do I, look the same?
Baby, I got to tell you, I’m the one you want
I’m not condoning this. I’m just asking how many of you guys are now feeling an overwhelming urge to throw all your Led Zeppelin records in the trash. I’m guessing not very many. My point is that figures have survived sex scandals involving teenage girls, and I do not believe that it is the death sentence people make it out to be.
You might respond by saying that rock stars are entertainers, and that most people generally expect — if not outright demand — that entertainers be a little degenerate in their private lives, while it’s different for politicians. This is true. The bar for destroying a politician’s career is a lot lower than it is for ruining an entertainer’s career. But this in itself is another argument against the blackmail theory: You could just as easily destroy a politician through a sex scandal involving an adult. In fact, that would be the smarter play, because in that case you would not have to worry about being charged with transporting a minor across state lines.
The victim can always claim that the girl lied about her age
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A video of Rep. Joe Blow banging a teenager leaks. Blow can always say that the girl lied about her age, and that Epstein swore up and down that she was 18. This is not a legal defense per se. You still have a legal responsibility to do your due diligence. It is nevertheless a defense that a many people will give a person the benefit of the doubt for. It’s not unheard of for girls to lie about their age to get with older guys. Middle-school girls lie about their age to get with high-school guys who have cars. High-school girls lie about their age to get with college guys who have their own place and/or can purchase alcohol. Girls will get fake IDs to get into bars and over 21 clubs. It’s actually extremely common.
Back in the 1990s I used to follow English Premier League soccer, and there was an underage sex scandal involving one of Chelsea’s assistant coaches, Graham Rix. Rix had sex with a girl he met at a bar who turned out to be 15. His defense was simply that he didn’t know she was underage. He served six months in jail and then went right back to coaching for Chelsea. People were willing to put it down to bad luck.
Granted, there are limits to playing this card: The girl must be able to pass for 18.
So what was Epstein Island?
I think the blackmail theory is nonsense. My belief is that access to underage girls is simply a fringe benefit of cooperating with ZOG. It’s a service ZOG provides to a friend — and someone has to run that service for them. Jeffrey Epstein was that guy.
But then why film those who do it? Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly told a friend that it was a form of “insurance.” This makes sense, since doing so acts as a doomsday device. If Epstein went down, everyone else was going down with him. It was Epstein’s personal Samson Option. And this is likely why Epstein had to be killed before he — or more likely an associate — could push the big, red button.
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31 comments
I appreciate your intellectual rigor but I wouldn’t overthink this. Sometimes things are exactly what they seem at first glance.
First, Epstein’s activity on the island began in 1998 according to wikipedia. Back then, things were different. These were the halcyon days when Clinton and Monica Lewinsky was considered a big scandal. The point of the blackmail wouldnt be something that could hold up in court, but in public opinion, which was vastly different back then. There was once a time when Hunter Biden’s crack pipe would have been devastating instead of a meme.
Second, I know this is conspiratorial, but what if this was the gateway to other, darker things? Given that two of the journalists who ‘debunked’ pizzagate turned out to be pedos, this isn’t that far fetched. This isn’t QAnon, but its likely that QAnon was disinformation intended in part to desensitize the public if stuff like this ever came to light.
Third, yes this isn’t Hollywood, but Epstein also didn’t kill themselves. Mossad knows no limits, and the Clintons are rumored to have caused quite a few accidents. And while he was black and thus not likely a strong swimmer, I find it hard to believe that the Obama cook drowned while paddle boarding.
Fourth, the stick of blackmail and the carrot of Zionist support would work in tandem making each more effective than alone, similar to the cartel policy of plata o plomo, aka silver or lead.
You’re still missing the point.
The question is “HOW?”. How does ZOG follow through on the threat if someone refuses? Step by step, what does following through on the threat look like? Sure, they could release a video of the guy with an underaged girl but then Epstein has to explain what the girl was doing in his house and how she got there. No matter who ZOG sends the video to be it the police, the media or just anonymously online, I don’t see a way around that obstacle.
“How does ZOG follow through on the threat if someone refuses?”
How about simply leaking the video onto social media platforms via anonymous accounts?
Once it goes viral, it’s all over for the politician.
Still doesn’t resolve the main problem.
I swear. Y’all want to believe this story is so badly. You think if ZOG dropped the video that people would just tar and feather the politician and then move on without asking any follow-up questions. You think they’re not going to ask “Hey, who’s the girl?” They’re not going to ask “Hey, where did this take place?” They’re not going to ask “Hey, did how did this guy meet the girl?”
And then you don’t think people are eventually going to find out the answer to those questions. You don’t think they will eventually find out it happened at Jeffrey Epstein house and you don’t think people are going to ask Jeffrey Epstein “Hey, what the fuck was a 15-year-old doing at your private island and/or NYC mansion without her parents?” Or maybe you DO think people will ask him that but that there is some plausible enough answer he could give that would satisfy the tabloids, never mind the girl’s parents.
No. You think that ZOG will release the video, the politician will be crucified, and then the story will end right there.
Having worked for and with politicians for some years, I can say that their main characteristic, besides lack of morality, is cowardice. No politician I’ve known would tell a blackmailer “do your worst, and to hell with you.” He’d soil himself and try to appease the blackmailer.
However, I think you’re missing the real mechanism at work here. Sharing sexual depravity probably forges personal bonds. It works as an initiation into a secret club. I’ve done this favor for you; please do this favor for me. Members of a pedo ring help each other out. It’s as simple as that.
Easy, they could put it on a laptop and deposit it somewhere like the Hunter biden laptop, and let the public think the mark was stupid enough to take the pictures themselves. All these people have committed political enemies in the opposing parties. The underage aspect is the draw–these people could get adult women for themselves.
You are assuming they would go full nuclear with a public revelation, but they might simply send anonymous email clips to family and coworkers to ruin family and social connections. This would also create the opportunity for future compliance and damage control. They want to use the asset, not destroy them necessarily. They probably didn’t intend to try to put the marks in jail, perhaps only as a last resort.
Basically though, I agree with the final point. The carrot part of access to young girls was probably a big part of it, and the stick of revelation may have never come into play. But it amounts to the same thing.
Even going the Hunter Biden laptop would run into the same problem. How do people know that the girl is underaged? The only way people could know for sure that the girl is underaged and not a young-looking adult is if you who the girl is. Once that is known, tabloids will be beating down her door and the op is exposed.
Threatening to reveal the video to family is the only blackmail they could possibly get away. That might be enough to compromise some people if they love their wife or if their wife is the rich one. Although some politicians may have an “arrangement” with their wives. Half of them probably have mistresses and their wives are probably happy that someone else screwing their husband so that they don’t have to.
Yeah, but they don’t need that. See the cases I give below where they use legal gay sex. They’re going for stigma more than legal conviction. Underage is the draw. These guys could get adults through normal channels.
watched Bad Influence. Was pretty good. That ones about the psychobunny guy. But he’s more like the weird brother than the lead character.
I don’t completely disagree with your premise though. There was also the glamor aspect of it to reel in bigwigs. Prince Andrew was only involved to add glamor it seems to me, for what good would blackmailing him do? Does he have any actual power?
Travis, I found your theory and article so compellingly accurate and sickening that I just signed up for a monthly donation with Counter-Currents. Certainly ZOG is evil, yet, I could not imagine the extent of their evilness until reading your article. Just the phrase, “A perk,” for being ZOG pimps makes me feel repulsed.
Further, your article illustrates the extent of moral corruption of the once great Aryan race. Even in our movement, men (and women) will speak disparagingly against women, often subtly, and even more so if we do not have children.
The cruel hypocrisy ignores the overall decay of our own tribe and our inadequate means to improve our own moral characters and actions. God pray we can find our way to living with dignity and honor, recapturing the goodness of our souls.
Epstein didn’t kill themselves? Maybe Epstein had a double who was killed in prison , and the real Epstein is in Israel advising on manufacturing rape allegations
Interesting theory. I look forward to some big names addressing what you have written here.
One critique I have is, what if the things they’ve been filmed doing is a lot worse than just 15 year olds.
My thoughts are that it could’ve worked a little more congenially than “we have pictures, now we own you, surprise!” Maybe it was disclosed up front, more like “If you play ball with us, we’ll provide the kind of entertainment you like, but we’re going to take a few pictures to ensure your continued loyalty. Agreed?”
Also, an anonymously leaked picture – or the threat of it – certainly can be damaging and thus powerful leverage. Granted, it’s not always clear that a 15 year old is 15, but usually it’s a bit obvious. Moreover, if it came down to a matter of law, the burden of proof isn’t what one might expect. If a judge thinks a picture even looks suggestive (which is a subjective standard) and thinks it looks underage, that’s enough for a conviction. Moreover, FWIW, if I started making granny porn vids but don’t check IDs and do the record-keeping and legal compliance procedures, I could get in trouble. Then, of course, there’s conviction in the court of public opinion.
Also, standards have changed in recent decades. What rock stars got away with in earlier times doesn’t fly now. Jerry Lee Lewis and Elvis Pressley did get a bit of scandal back then, but these days, they’d be doing time for it. On the other hand, politically connected billionaires still can get away with practically anything they want.
I should add, no discussion of Epstein and his honeypot operation would be complete without Morgoth’s abomination video: Archetypes Of The Left: The Abomination – YouTube
After finishing the article, I’m not sure I disagree with the author, but ZOG does use blackmail techniques.
Also, if you have read sibyl edmond’s interview with Philip giraldi, she describes a blackmail scenario where Mossad arranged to have photographs taken of a US congresswoman during sex with a female. They apparently were observing this female congresswoman, who was presumably noncompliant on voting for Israel, and when her mother died, a beautiful woman appeared at the funeral, who came on to her and was just her type so to speak. They knew that this congressman was a secret lesbian, I suppose, so that suggests prolonged spying, and were prepared to strike when the congresswoman was at a point of emotional weakness, having lost her mother. Anyway, the two went to this log house somewhere in a state, park or national park for a romantic tryst, which has been wired with hidden cameras by the Turkish mafia, working in conjunction with mossad, and they filmed them having sex as part of a blackmail scheme, presumably to secure political compliance. I didn’t even realize there was a Turkish mafia, and why would Muslims be working with mossad? There’s a whole Darkside out there it appears that we don’t know about. How did mossad intend to execute the blackmail on that?? And that scenario sounds eerily like the Epstein affair.
now to have all these things going on in the same timeframe as the Epstein affair, and say that these were blackmail but that the epstein affair magically isn’t, seems to violate Occam’s razor to me.
I know I’m blabbering, but I find it interesting, but why did they finally go after Epstein and arrest him? Maybe they were revealing the material. Maybe they were using the blackmail and that triggered the investigation, similar to the sibyl Edmonds thing.
As for what finally pierced Epstein’s magic shield of protection, the way I heard it, Mike Cernovich began publicizing the case and kept hammering away at him until the dominoes started to fall.
Funny how that works. Bill Cosby’s downfall began with a guy doing a standup routine at a random comedy club in Philadelphia.
I haven’t followed the Cosby case, but indeed, sometimes the dominoes are all lined up out of sight and all it takes is some chaotic motion to give the first nudge.
There’s no clear link between the Mossad and that woman. For all everybody knows, the woman might have acted independently, and she was just a big fan of Israel when coming up with her demands. Reasons for suspicion, sure, but it’s not like her Mossad handlers did anything but give her instructions.
Epstein had teenage girls which he was grooming at his own place.
You don’t have to be Agatha Christie to realize how the two are not the same at all.
I think Trav is right, the whole operation was more of a carrot than a stick. I suspect that a majority of people talking about this see things the same way, they only choose to lean on the blackmail angle for tactical reasons. It *does* make Israel and the Jews look worse than the alternative.
That’s a good point.
I think Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky just denied the particular Lesbian affair and simply admitted that yes, she was Bi and that her husband was supportive. She is still a member of Congress and still married to her second husband.
Schakowsky being a very Liberal Democrat Jewess from Chicago with a strong LGBTQ voting record might have made some difference compared to a Born Again Conservative Republican from Alabama.
If this Turkish blackmail scheme was really a Mossad operation, it seems pretty maladroit. The leak to the 2009 scandal was made by hearsay and not by revealing any illicit video.
Schakowsky has Lithuanian Jewish ancestry and seems to be a strong supporter of Israel ─ and a “two-state solution” to peace ─ but she does not necessarily have any loyalty to the Likudniks. She did not attend Netanyahu’s 2015 speech to Congress. Schakowsky was not a strong supporter of the Second Gulf War either, and she has made some derogatory comments against J Street (lobby) Jews who supported Tea Party planks.
I doubt that Epstein was really murdered, and I generally agree with the points made by the writer of this article.
However, if somebody can be compromised at a plutocratic safe space like Pedo Island, they can be compromised somewhere else that is a lot more safe for the blackmailers. Otherwise, if the mark just tells them to go to hell, what can you do besides engineer an assassination to prevent mutually-assured destruction?
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Please delete my comments if I’m saying too much, but another recent case that seems to have been memory holed was the underage sex scandal surrounding representative Gaetz in Florida. I’m not sure how it resolved, but there were extortion attempts against the rep and involvement of a figure from the Israeli consulate, plus a number of individuals with Jewish sounding names. See the Politico article on this topic. So how were they going to “execute” the extortion or blackmail? My point is, these shenanigans are rampant in our government. There’s no reason to assume the epstein affair was any different.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/23/israel-dilbert-matt-gaetz-513800
By the author’s logic, ANY blackmailing op would be meaningless, after all, the blackmailer would have to reveal its sources, which would be compromising to the source. Ever heard of Bohemian Grove?
The more things change…
Perhaps these revelations are being allowed to show who is in charge much like the Droit du seigneur of the past.
It’s plausible, even if they realize it after the facts slipped out and smile to themselves now as a welcome consequence.
Blackmail, perk, Droit du seigneur. Everything, everywhere,all at once. Whoever was behind this conspiracy was brilliant.
Travis, you’ve made assumptions in the article that i think are quite naive
you’re assuming that the evidence would be immediately disclosed to the victim when in fact there is likely no intention to do so – there is no reason to make them aware of having been recorded, unless it becomes necessary
put yourself in the position of a high-profile person caught in this position – what would you do? you’d be forced to consider not only how being exposed would affect your family and friends, but also your professional reputation and career
comparing rock stars to high profile political influencers is not a logical comparison – the rocker, as you point out, is not held accountable because it is practically expected for them to have sex with young women whereas the businessman/politician is held to a different standard and judged by a different audience – consider the Clinton-Lewinski case for example and she wasn’t even under age
when compromising information like this is collected, the intention is to *not* use it – there’s no point in burning that bridge…unless and until it becomes advantageous to do so – there is certainly no reason to turn it over to LE and potentially incriminate yourself – only *if* it ever became necessary would the victim be made aware of its existence and in all but the rarest of cases that, in and of itself, is all that would be necessary to keep a permanent leash on them – in the extremely rare case it isn’t, then the information may be leaked, perhaps on the web, and the victim is then tried in the the court of public opinion
Countering the naive: ‘Epstein wasn’t involved in blackmail’
https://12bytes.org/countering-the-naive-epstein-wasnt-involved-in-blackmail/
I have a different take on all of this than what I’ve read in the comments.
1) It is not illegal for hot, age-of-consent passing 14, 15 year old girls to hang out on private islands owned by billionaires, if the parent or legal guardian consents to it.
2) I think I read one of the (now older) women who accused Epstein of recruiting her was there willingly, (not under duress) and with parental consent. This does not necessarily imply that there was a stated or implied expectation that she have sex with people to blackmail them. It is certainly easy to believe that Epstein and Mossad knew that “nature would take its course” with or without any prearranged “expectations”. Therefore, their blackmail scam might have been a matter of luck, or just “odds”, that a Bill Clinton type would let his guard down and that “attractive underage girls who were only there to hang out on the beach” would be smitten by powerful, rich, or famous men, in an environment where there’s a “free spirited” atmosphere, and again, nature takes its course.
3) It isn’t illegal for a private property owner to have security cameras all over his property that record activity. I suspect there are laws under most US jurisdiction on cameras in bedrooms that are being rented, or for spying purposes, but I have no idea what legal jurisdiction his island fell under, but some “laws” might not apply at all to private islands such as that. And there would be plausible deniability because it was a private residence and not a business per se.
4) Believe it or not, there are some people in this world who would be happy for their underage daughter to be swept off her feet by a billionaire or famous person. I know it’s a song, but listen to the words to Reba McEntyre’s famous song “Fancy”. (Here’s your one chance Fancy don’t let me down) about an underage prostitute and her mother.
4) Clearly Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell wouldn’t have been put in prison if they weren’t running what amounted to an underage prostitution ring. So the “risk” that they were taking upon themselves by blackmailing people was the same risk they were taking by doing the very thing that they are known to have done. Therefore, the argument that they “wouldn’t have done this because it exposes them to risk” is negated by the very risky actions they are known to have engaged in and were/are in trouble for. Yet they did it, and got away with it for a time.
just some thoughts. The arguments put forth in the article aren’t necessarily wrong. I just don’t think the arguments are solid enough to negate the other theories.
My belief is that access to underage girls is simply a fringe benefit of cooperating with ZOG.
Yes.
Virtually every ‘conspiracy theory’ exists, at some level, to distract the distractable from the obvious.
The logic is impeccable, what’s missing is psychology.
The mark is a famous celebrity-politician, etc., who has everything to lose if the prep follows through with the threat. The perp is, relatively speaking, a nobody. Which means that if they both go down, the mark has much more to lose than the perp, They both know this, and what makes the mark compliant is that the perp might release the film. Gambling psychology is what is at work here, and the perp is betting with favorable odds that the mark will fold with the threat.
Yes, and the threats are tacit. They take the form of innuendo released through film and pop culture mechanisms, such as the movies LA Confidential and eyes wide shut. There’s lots of messaging to important people in Hollywood films.
“Blackmail requires more than just obtaining compromising information on someone. The perp also has to be willing and able to follow through with his threat if the victim refuses to comply. The question is, “How does ZOG follow through on the threat without also incriminating themselves?”
What if some politician had actually said “publish and be damned” and the blackmailers had decided not to reveal the video in order to avoid compromising the operation?
We would never have heard of the allegations.
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