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Earlier this month, the New York Times revealed that top-level Democrats have been wargaming possible outcomes of the November 2020 election and are considering secession if things don’t go their way. This should come as a surprise to no one. Since the epoch-changing George Floyd riots — which began in May and are still ongoing — America has endured its greatest, most destructive, and most painful social hemorrhaging since the Civil War. That a second civil war might very well be on the horizon — given all the uncertainties surrounding the upcoming election, COVID-19, and racial unrest — wargaming such an eventuality not only makes sense, it’s downright prudent.
Much has been written about the Floyd riots and their entirely fraudulent origins. As we all know, the far-Left has manufactured unrest through generous donations to terrorist organizations such as Antifa and Black Lives Matter, and also through its methodical destruction of not just our cities, but of the social trust and civic competence that goes into maintaining them. They are blaming police, but point to chimeras such as “systemic racism” and “white supremacy” as the real villains in their cartoonishly Manichean and black supremacist worldview. That these riots have in fact caused crime to spike in many cities, resulting in even greater numbers of blacks being killed (the very people whose lives are supposed to matter), makes no difference to the Left. They do this because they can — because they hate whites, they hate nationalism, they hate traditionalism, and because they hate everyone in power who isn’t them.
The focal point of the Left’s hatred is, of course, President Trump. Regardless of what Trump has accomplished as Commander in Chief, they see him as the representative of white collective interests, and therefore someone who must be destroyed. And they are not entirely wrong. No president since Ronald Reagan (or maybe even Dwight Eisenhower) has been as implicitly aligned with white racial interests as Donald Trump. That he appeared virtually out of nowhere in the second decade of the twenty-first century to roll back leftward gains and to remind whites that they do indeed have collective interests after all. . . well, that was just too much for many on the Left to bear.
That Trump is at best a tolerable champion of white America (and, at worst, no better than any other cuckservative, back-stabbing Republican) makes no difference to the Left as well. Their anti-white racism is so complete they have no interest in such picayune distinctions. In fact, they are so consumed by hatred that their leadership in the Democrat Party is not even trying to hide the fact that it wishes to dissolve the Union if it cannot stop Donald Trump:
But conveniently, a group of former top government officials called the Transition Integrity Project actually gamed four possible scenarios, including one that doesn’t look that different from 2016: a big popular win for Mr. Biden, and a narrow electoral defeat, presumably reached after weeks of counting the votes in Pennsylvania. For their war game, they cast John Podesta, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, in the role of Mr. Biden. They expected him, when the votes came in, to concede, just as Mrs. Clinton had.
But Mr. Podesta, playing Mr. Biden, shocked the organizers by saying he felt his party wouldn’t let him concede. Alleging voter suppression, he persuaded the governors of Wisconsin and Michigan to send pro-Biden electors to the Electoral College.
In that scenario, California, Oregon, and Washington then threatened to secede from the United States if Mr. Trump took office as planned. The House named Mr. Biden president; the Senate and White House stuck with Mr. Trump. At that point in the scenario, the nation stopped looking to the media for cues, and waited to see what the military would do.
When one-half of a nation’s major political parties is seriously considering secession prior to a presidential election, you know that that nation’s future is in doubt. To assume that the American political system, which was designed when whites held a demographic supermajority, will survive the next few elections as non-whites take up an ever-increasing share of the population is simply naïve. Something’s gotta give, and by November 2020 there is a slim yet not-nothing chance that the Democratic Party — the representative of non-white collective interests — will be willing to give it.
Faced with such an adversary, Trump and his people should wargame what would happen if the Democrats do resort to extralegal means to get what they want post-election. In the case of Trump winning unambiguously with the divide between him and Joe Biden being too great to be fudged, we can assume that any Left-wing secession efforts would be half-hearted and easily crushed (and therefore likely not attempted). This will be good for the Right and good for America, but it won’t save America. This will only give American whites more time to prepare for that fateful day when America finally does break apart roughly along racial lines.
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Likewise, there would be no Left-wing secession if Joe Biden wins unambiguously. In this case, the Left would get what it wants, which is to assume absolute power, take pitiless revenge against the Right, and pull the anti-white day of reckoning as close to the present as possible. Since such a scenario does not involve Left-wing secession, wargaming it falls beyond the scope of this essay. The topic of Right-wing secession, on the other hand, will be dealt with in part two of this series.
The likeliest scenario involving Left-wing secession would be the one described above: Trump wins a squeaker via the electoral college but loses the popular vote. Biden (on the advice of his hard-Left handlers) refuses to concede and pulls enough strings to get the House to declare for the Dems. Meanwhile, the Senate and Executive Branch plop for Trump. This would truly be a “house divided,” and the Left would ascribe to itself the political capital to call for exit of the Left Coast. In this circumstance, History would be opening up a gateway for decisive action that could potentially change everything forever. Anyone with enough vision, money, manpower, and chutzpah could march through it and into the history books. An extreme example would be an Army general putting down riots in several cities and then crowning himself emperor à la Napoleon. What could anyone do to stop him?
Absent such a third-party intrusion or any eventuality involving foreign invasion or nuclear weapons (which would be much trickier to predict at this point), Trump’s wargame must entail the Left Coast declaring itself its own nation rather than submitting to another four years of low unemployment, favorable trade deals, and media-trolling under Trump. Now, my first instinct would be to say, “let them go.” Good riddance to bad garbage, and all that. From a Right-wing perspective, what downside could there possibly be to losing twenty-to-thirty million Leftists, Democrats, and liberals, a sizeable portion of whom would be non-white? Greg Johnson wrote an excellent analysis of this phenomenon — known as Calexit — after Trump’s victory in 2016. “In short, after Calexit, there would be fewer but better Americans,” he wrote.
From a white nationalist perspective, this is as true now as ever. But from the perspective of Donald Trump, who will have to deal with how the country has changed since 2016, simply letting the Left Coast go would not be as simple as it would seem. Without California, Washington, and Oregon, being a Leftist of any stripe in America would cease to have a point. The electoral loss of those three states alone would shift the rest of the country so far to the Right to make it completely intolerable for most left-of-center people. If we lose the Left Coast, any wargame scenario should include the likely possibility of East Coast blue states cashing in their chips as well. This would include large portions of the mid-Atlantic states and New England. And what about blue cities in otherwise red states, such as Chicago and Houston? What about states in the former Confederacy that are over a quarter black, such as Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia, and Mississippi? What about border states in the Southwest that are almost as Mexican as they are white? A hung election could trigger massive unrest in those places which could dwarf the Floyd riots.
If the Democrats are wargaming secession, Trump would be remiss not to count on Antifa and BLM doing so as well. At this point, we must assume that these terrorist organizations already have plans in place to demolish bridges, dams, and infrastructure in red states in order to disorganize, demoralize, and hobble the Right once hostilities begin. This is their kind of warfare, and if they can shut off the lights in Topeka, Kansas the day before a city-wide, anti-white pogrom, so much the better for them. Essentially, we would have to assume that the far Left will stop at nothing to gain control of this country.
How is a president going to handle all of this? By letting the Left Coast go, Trump would be ensuring the death of the country he had sworn to serve. This would be entering uncharted territory with unfathomable chaos and complications ahead. Who knows how that would turn out? On the other hand, not letting the Left Coast go would require unleashing the military upon domestic enemies. This tactic may very well lead to civil war, depending upon the fitness and loyalty of the US military and the strength and will of the insurgents.
Best case scenario, Trump crushes them with reasonable casualties. The insurgency, like the Civil War, has a beginning and end, after which we have a formal surrender and a return to the status quo, such as it is. Furthermore, a well-armed and motivated red state populace organizes enough to resist whatever attacks the insurgents plan for them.
Worst case scenario, the US military struggles with a well-funded and ruthless insurgency that spreads havoc and terror in dozens of locations. The military, the national guard, and the police suffer from poor leadership and lack of cohesion thanks to decades of affirmative action and are hamstrung by their own politically correct rules and regs. Defeat after defeat eventually increases sympathy for the insurgents until a critical mass of the US fighting forces actually switches sides. After all, everyone loves a winner. And if backing the faster horse would mean a quicker resolution to the hostilities, then so be it. Then secession would no longer be on the table. Control of Washington, DC would be. By taking the insurgency on directly, Trump would be, in effect, risking everything.
Bill Clinton never had to contemplate anything as bloodcurdling when launching hellfire in Waco, Texas. Only President Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis may have carried a greater burden. But Kennedy’s situation was nothing like Trump’s wargame, and so little can be learned from it as a precedent. To find a precedent, one would have to go back to Abraham Lincoln himself.
I’m sure that if Trump ever wargames Left-wing secession, he’ll employ top experts with a better handle on the specifics than I have. They will likely have a more accurate understanding of the enemy’s strength as well as the military’s. Such planning, if done competently, would be worth infinitely more than my armchair spit-balling. However, the best chance of solving a problem requires a complete understanding of that problem before any attempts are made to solve it. Trump’s experts could wargame with the best possible data twelve hours a day from now until the election, but if they don’t truly understand the problem then it’s possible they’ll find themselves going into hiding the day that Lenin’s successor sets foot in the White House.
And what exactly is the problem? Due to America’s increasing racial diversity, the tribalist nature of human beings, and the reality of racial differences, America is becoming ungovernable. And no amount of MAGA hat, civic-nationalist rah-rah is going to change that. This is an irreversible process. To try to stop it militarily would be pure folly. Better to climb aboard that crazy train and steer it away from the cliff than attempt to stop it in its tracks.
When wargaming this problem, a proper understanding points to one solution with an excellent chance of averting catastrophe. (Sadly, this is the one Trump will least likely consider, but I will present it anyway.) Trump, upon a close victory in November, should anticipate Left-wing secession and then. . . get this. . . sweeten the deal. California, Washington, and Oregon want to secede? Great. But why don’t we also let New York south and east of Albany go as well? And most of New England. And Philadelphia, New Jersey, DC, and Northern Virginia, too. They could all be part of one country if they want, separated by thousands of miles, sort of like Pakistan and Bangladesh once upon a time. In any case, Trump’s people should know ahead of time what territory a post-America America can cede to the enemy and what territory it can’t, and then bargain accordingly. By dictating the terms of the split, Trump will be avoiding much of the chaos and complications mentioned above.
Do the blacks want reparations? Trump should be prepared to give them exactly that in return for a black homeland in Georgia and South Carolina, to which all red-state blacks must go. Win-win for them, right? And in the Southwest, I’m sure it wouldn’t take much to initiate Reconquista in parts of New Mexico and Arizona which effectively belong to the Mexicans anyway.
In return, Trump should make a few non-negotiable demands such as an even partition of the military and the debt as well as a reasonable timeframe in which to allow a peaceful transfer of populations. He should also demand that legacy, red-state America (which he would presumably lead for a time) return to its pre-1965 demographics. He should enshrine that sentiment in law and in his country’s new constitution. He should also make it abundantly clear that if these demands are not met and the Left still wishes to secede, he will bomb blue city after blue city until they realize the wisdom of doing business with Donald Trump.
It will be a difficult offer to refuse, and a clever trick to boot since it will enable Donald Trump to wargame without a war.
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Once we split up America, Greg’s Slow Cleanse will be useful.
(Along with buffer states with no independent foreign policy for non whites who dont want to live under the Enemy)
Minorities in the ranks, about 40% out of 1.1 million, will be a problem solved by inviting those interested to walk around to the other side of the barricades without recrimination. The absence of scenarios and plans from Conservatism Inc and the Republican Party suggests we’ll be fighting on two fronts with such groveling cowards at our back.
So, where are the scenarios specific to containing Leftist-held areas? For one thing, a near total boycott of Democratic run cities by truckers should be ready to go on a moment’s notice, as well as a walk-out by white police and utility workers.
Things have been going the Left’s way in the U. S. for seventy-five years. Why on earth would they do anything like secede?
The Left knows how to wait. They already have media, academia, the civil service, and demographics all going their way. All they yet need is a Democrat in the White House, and they will be in charge forever. If Biden loses, they will simply wait. Why would they risk their current strong position on a secession attempt?
The real worry is if Trump loses and then refuses to leave office, or worse, thus giving the Left a golden excuse to “save America from a tyrant” or some such thing.
Secession doesn’t mean they have to give up any power at all. It means that they create their own country where they have all that power while at the same time they don’t have to have “bigots” and “Nazis” in their midst spoiling all the fun.
What would the Left do without their reprobates: the ‘bigots’ and ‘Nazis’ ? A fair part of their power stems from the credible threat of being smeared with those species of moral leprosy.
No, the Left won’t permit succession any more than they have in the past. The thought of a polity, as opposed to a handful of despised heretics, that doesn’t acknowledge their hegemony is intolerable to them. Hence the ongoing subversion of merely conservative elected regimes Eastern Europe.
These fellows play to win and they want it all: they can only be checked by a superior virtus — that the Right so singularly fails to display.
A secession should be steered as such that it would be entirely to blame on the left (the predictable “you forced us to secede because you are racist” argument does not hold water when it comes to destroying a nation). The left should be known as nation destroyers and the right should be known as nation redeemers.
But there’s undisputed merit to letting the left get away with it- at least for a time. Letting white America roil and rage at being robbed of their country for a few years will prompt untold national populist passion, which would facilitate an exodus of nonwhites, coastal elites and Marxian Jews to the West Coast, clearly dividing the two camps until we have a right wing white America in the East and a left wing brown America in the West. The clearer the ethnic/territorial lines that are drawn, the easier the fight will be. And naturally, once the right wing white Union has a suitable leader, he can wage war on everything that isn’t the white man’s definition of American, and win his country back.
Because while a leftist secession may serve a useful purpose in animating white Americans, never, ever let the left get away with breaking up the union. And never let the right embrace secession itself. White Americans don’t want their country broken up, and with the right propaganda they can be made to hate to the point of warfare anyone who would wish to break it up.
The best thing in the world would be for California to secede.
Look at my “In Praise of Calexit”: https://counter-currents.com/2016/11/in-praise-of-calexit/
Race-conscious white Americans should not be so foolish as the make a fetish of “preserving the Union.”
I agree 100%. But only if Real Californians are given immigration preference and public pensions when we relocate – at heavy cost in lost property values – to America.
The Left will never secede. They’re on the verge of taking the whole country. And they are definitely not live and let live types.
Your America would be ungovernable. Leftists and Minorities would never give us a moments peace. That’s why Nationalists admire Kamal Ataturk: he gave up large parts of the Turkish Empire to create a viable Turkish Turkey.
The disastrous policies of the 2oth Century cannot be magically waved away. We created generations of swine in our so called universities. And brought in whole nations of hostile or indifferent aliens to undercut our own people and nation. The Foundation is rotten in much of the former United States.
Too small? Maybe we could pick up parts of Canada. If America falls, everything is going to be up in the air.
“Gave them up” – he hardly had much choice, with Britain having already cleared the Levant of Turkish troops.
The little land that the Entente had not conquered – Anatolia – was fought for tooth and nail by the Turks, and that included vast areas that were Greek, Kurdish or Armenian.
When India broke free of the British empire, she broke into two states, of course, India For Hindoos and Pakistan for Muslims. Pakistan was geographically interrupted by India into East and west Pakistan. East and west subsequently split into Bangladesh and Pakistan, because the muslins decided they didn’t like each other for some reason. It seems the two coasts of the US could follow a similar pattern and form East and West Welfaria, leaving a separate heartland USA.The Muslims and hindoos separated themselves geographically, but tens of thousands of lives were lost in the process. I doubt the empire killed so many in all it’s days.
Just one quibble: the massacres that surrounded the partition of India claimed millions of lives, not tens of thousands.
It makes no sense for the Left to break up the country in 2020 when they and everyone else know they will have One Party Rule (like they already do in California) by 2024, or 2028 at the latest. Why would they settle for a piece when they are scheduled to grab the whole?
The Left will throw more tantrums and burn more cities until Trump finishes his second term, all the while pouring more Left voting immigrants into the country and strategically placing them in the states needed to lock in the Electoral College forever in their favor.
I think the “team Trump” is aware of the “California seceding” possibility. One of his advisors wrote a book about it: Secession 2.0: Why an American Breakup Beckons, and How We Can Prevent It
Buckley, F H.
I read the book, and I don’t think the author is serious about trying to prevent it. What you propose of “sweetening the deal” sounds ideal, but I think that states and counties should be allowed to hold a referendum to secede, as they did in Quebec. BTW, Alberta might end up joining what you call the red states.
I’m surprised that Podesta is showing his face. After all those emails got out, you’d think he would’ve crawled under a rock and stayed there.
Other than that, if there’s a secession, let them start it and let it be peaceful. For the sake of their own safety, the left *really* shouldn’t push the Boogaloo button. I don’t see it happening anyway. Why would the Democrats settle for the Left Coast, which they already have, and give up on the rest of the country? They want the whole burrito. For that matter, the big money contributors pulling strings in both parties wouldn’t want to disturb the existing arrangement.
Finally, they don’t even have to do this. They could push for returning to federalism, liberal states get liberal laws, conservative states get conservative laws, and everyone gets along. They probably would’ve done so already, but that means not getting the entire burrito.
A feint then? Satanists enjoying themselves hoping we take the bait.
I have no faith in Trump doing anything that makes sense at this point. The GOP is the enemy of Whites and are happy to hand over the country to the Democrats as long as immigrants keep coming and wages keep going down. No one’s going to secede unless there’s money to be made by doing so.
Secession may be the best for us. If minorities think that with White people gone, this glorious golden dream of theirs to make a Socialist Paradise in what is left of the U.S., will turn into a pipe dream. With the disappearance of ‘The Goose Which Lays the Golden Eggs’ — i.e., the clever, intelligent, hard-working, industrious Whites — what is left of ‘America’ will fall to bits. Ah, the final revenge! Enjoy!
They came to our country because it was a lot better than what they had back where they belonged. The problem is that they can’t build a country like ours, or maintain it if they get rid of us. Even if they assume permanent control and lots of Whites are still around as a minority, the place eventually would become a Third World country under non-White leadership. They don’t realize this, of course. They need us, but we don’t need them.
Exactly. We’re much, much better off without the Dems’ homicidally anti-white, Jewish-led coalition of POCs, while they need us. I have my ideas about strategy, beginning with a truckers’ boycott or blockade and follow-up shutdown of utilities by white cops and utility workers.
Where are the real-life strategies for protecting our food supplies and support lifelines with lethal response to BLM, Antifa, and their confederates in urban police departments? Bluster about being armed to the teeth is a joke. Where’s the advice of how to deal in real-life encounters with negroes using “hands up, don’t shoot” to gain that 2 or 3 seconds needed to move in for the kill? Let’s stop wasting time talking about what was and plan for what is. Democracy is a guarantee our children and grandchildren will become puddles of blood in the streets if we don’t ignore politics and think survival.
There are practical reasons to avoid militant discussion. Therefore, the following is completely theoretical.
That said, if Antifa gets the anarchy they want, they would be lucky to last a month. The only reason they remain a pest is because their local politicians often are pussies who refuse to call out the law to deal with them appropriately. In an anarchy type of situation, there would be revivals of organizations similar to the San Francisco vigilance committee, with no-nonsense ways of dealing with things. The only reason that doesn’t exist already, is because the way The System works, it’s the crime of a century if someone tells a crowd of rioters that they’d better go away or else. If The System breaks down, then everything changes.
Some Q1uestions
Is this good or bad for the Jews? Will moolah and bombs, and technology still flow to Eretz Israel?
Of course you know the Negroes will not take part in any solution, their being dysfunctional incompetents. Whatever the outcome they will still be whining and whinging abut raycizm and unequal treatment.
Will the heavily encumbered welfare gibs and pension states abandon forever any federal bailout cash?
What will become of the Federal reserve system?
Fort Knox?
How will the atomic arsenal, the navy and the army be parceled out?
What will foreign powers do during this upheaval? Will Russia, China or Canada seize Alaska, Hawaii and Washington State? Will Mexico make a move on Azatlan? Will some branch of the fuzzy wuzzies declare a jihad?
Where is the evidence that Trump has any concern for his White constituency. The most likely outcome is he will deploy the military and national guard in order that Whites are unable to respond effectively to whatever pogroms the left institutes.
if I may add another comment regarding “sweetening the deal”: even if we were to give them 95% of the territory of the USA, and we were going to keep just 5%, make no mistake, in ten years from secession, that 5% of our White Homeland will become as rich, prosperous and livable as Switzerland and Lichtenstein are today. While their 95% will decline into the sh*thole that has become of South Africa and Rhodesia. Why? because we have higher IQs, lower levels of psychopathy and because we possess that intangible, the “Faustian spirit”.
Spencer Quinn,
Eventually, the ethnostate will require the dissolving of the Union. On that we can all agree.
But you seem to forget that there are vast numbers of patriots on the Left Coast (I’m one of them!), and progtards in the heartland. Breaking up that isn’t fairly mutually consensual all around will create a shitstorm beyond belief. The West Coast state governments can’t simply secede – not without holding some kind of referendum (nor could heartland states the other way). Indeed, if they did “secede”, for patriots times would become glorious! Because the lefties would be engaging in illegal insurrection, which means patriots would now be free to start eliminating them with impunity (as people did not do to criminals during the Floyd terrorism). Indeed, it would be our patriotic duty to do so.
Do you think cops and highway patrol will just follow orders – orders from a now illegal government? Esp when a majority of cops (in my experience, which is more than that of Joe Average) are not leftists? What about National Guard units, most of whose members do NOT come from “blue cities”? Will they be loyal to some leftist state government acting illegally, or to the Federal Government?
If the West Coast tries to secede, I understand Greg Johnson’s point that this would be great for the rest of America (and would lend legitimacy to the Ethnostate, and might hasten its creation). But at this moment in time, it would be ten thousand times smarter for Trump NOT to accept such secession, but to then invoke the Insurrection Act and under its auspices move to utterly crush the left, esp antifa and BLM. I mean just destroy them physically, legally, and politically. Much can be done in wartime that cumbersome juridical procedures prevent in peacetime. Do you understand that most Americans, very much including in CA, and esp OR and WA (those latter states have huge conservative populations in their eastern areas, people much closer in demography as well as attitude to those in Idaho, Utah, Montana, than to the weirdos in Portland and Seattle), would NOT support such Left Coast secession? Nor would many Democrats outside the Left Coast, knowing that losing CA would give most of the FedGov to the GOP. (Indeed, do you think Nancy Pelosi would go along with Left Coast secession, as that would end her speakership?)
An illegal Left Coast secession declaration would give Trump all the ‘cover’ he would need to make full use of the potentially awesome police powers of the Federal Govt.
Moreover, as intimated above, Trump could also Federalize the state National Guards (and believe me, most members would side with the Feds than a bunch of Portland antifa scum); possibly take Federal control of the police and highway patrols; and, best of all, deputize millions of Left Coast patriots, telling us to do whatever is necessary to quell the state government rebellion against the USA.
No, sorry, but the Left is not nearly this stupid. They play the long game, and that game belongs to them, thanks to our insane dispossession by immigration invasion.
“A nation is a community of men who feel as one. Should this feeling be extinguished, the nation’s name and every family in it may continue to exist, but the nation will have died.” – Oswald Spengler
“I’m sure that if Trump ever wargames Left-wing secession, he’ll employ top experts with a better handle on the specifics than I have. They will likely have a more accurate understanding of the enemy’s strength as well as the military’s. Such planning, if done competently, would be worth infinitely more than my armchair spit-balling. ”
I wouldn’t underestimate the degree of stupidity or egalitarian ideological fervor in the Pentagon, MI and allied institutions. More often than not, ideologues use their high IQ and access to information to spin sprawling epicycles around the very real and pressing facts of racial and ethnic differences.
Fun article but there are many holes in it. Here are a few:
1. The US military is 40% minority and blood is thicker than water. They’ll never enforce any action against fellow minorities.
2. The sec def Esper already defied Trump on squelching protestors. As did his Joint Chiefs chairman
3. Trump, planning? He is many things but a planner he is not. He wouldn’t ever “wargame” anything.
4. Trumps family is worth billions. They have a lot to lose in uncertainty. If he loses he’ll just walk away and preserve his family wealth and safety.
5. Trumps closest advisors are Javanka. No need to explain this importance
6. Trump will be 75 soon. Old politicians don’t lead revolutions, young ones do.
7. Intl cooperation will “broker a deal” to stop any instability in the US. Given our outsized economic and military effect on the globe
8. The GOP itself would oppose any secession. Bad for business.
9. The media would instantly turn it on Trump. Suburban women would favor his resignation.
The secession will be mental. To succeed the Right will have to do what the Frankfurt School did. Infiltrate. Many of the Southern States are just as liberal as California. Look at Georgia.
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