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People want someone to blame for the coronavirus outbreak. The obvious culprit is China. It originated in China, China tried to cover up the outbreak for weeks, and the communist state has not been open with what it knows about the virus.
But liberals don’t want to blame China. They want to blame Donald Trump. Surprisingly, many on our side share this view.
Liberals insist that calling the coronavirus the “Wuhan Virus” or the “Chinese coronavirus” is racist. Mainstream outlets run stories about the growing danger of anti-Asian racism. They try hard to downplay where the virus came from and how Chinese policies and customs allowed it to get out of hand. Don’t expect any segments on bat soup or disgusting dietary habits. They certainly won’t speculate on whether the virus leaked from a government facility. China’s response has mostly earned praise from journalists, in spite of the nation’s response being responsible for its global spread. Liberals also seriously consider China’s conspiracy theories that the U.S. created the coronavirus. Social media platforms allow these theories to spread to millions while censoring anyone who claims it’s a Chinese bioweapon.
China effectively pushes its narrative to the West. Chinese officials know the best way to persuade liberals is to cry racism.
Racism is not the right tool to cover your own incompetence pic.twitter.com/LmGDyPsULt
— China Xinhua News (@XHNews) March 17, 2020
China is a Han supremacist state that puts ethnic minorities into concentration camps and suppresses their cultures. If anyone was “racist,” it would be the Chinese. But since they’re not white, they can still attract sympathy over the horror of naming a disease the Wuhan virus.
There are obvious reasons the media and liberals carry water for China. One, it allows them to stick it to Drumpf and racist whites. It doesn’t matter if they’re an authoritarian state that promotes racial supremacy. They’re non-white and can make Trump look like a fool. The second reason is that China exerts incredible influence over the media and business world. Every company wants access to the Chinese market. Criticizing them comes at the price of doing business. China announced Tuesday it would expel New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and Washington Post reporters over mildly critical coverage.
China is a serious country that doesn’t allow itself to be mocked or ridiculed by entities desperate for its money. The Chinese forced the NBA to bend the knee over one team official supporting the Hong Kong protests.
The most curious development is wignats deciding that China needs their support. They claim China responded effectively to the virus and it’s racist/boomer/neocon to blame China. They aggressively attack right-wingers who dare blame China. All blame lies at Trump’s feet, according to wignats.
The reasons wignats are standing up for China-shilling are manifold. One, they hate Trump so much that they will counter-signal any popular opinion from the MAGAsphere. Most Trump supporters blame China, so wignats decide they must dispute this. In many ways, wignats are turning into racist resistance aunts. Posting the same coronavirus takes as MSNBC further solidifies this image.
The second reason is more respectable: they actually admire China. Many right-wingers, particularly in Europe, see China as a necessary global counterweight to America. China appears as a challenger to America’s globohomo agenda and will bring down the cursed unipolar order. China also presents an alternative model to liberalism. The nation isn’t a democracy. It upholds the homogeneity of its core ethnic group and advances its interests nationally and globally. It doesn’t celebrate degeneracy quite like our own culture. It also appears as a serious country versus the clownish West.
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It’s tempting to see China as some anti-liberal bulwark, but identitarians shouldn’t fall for it. China doesn’t care about our cause, and the Han will never be our allies. China is developing biological weapons to specifically target whites. The Han treat all of their ethnic minorities like dirt, and they can’t wait to treat us the same way. Chinese global domination will mean the eclipse of white civilization. It will probably be worse for white people under GloboHan than globohomo. At least globohomo doesn’t put us in concentration camps.
That’s not to praise globalism’s clown world order; both choices are bad. We shouldn’t side with either. Sympathy with the red dragon is simply a case of “the grass is always greener on the other side.”
The Real Right often sympathizes with foreign powers who appear to oppose globalism. Russia is the usual recipient of this adoration. Like China, Vladimir Putin’s Russia offers an alternative to global liberalism and stands up for its people. But, like with China, the rosy vision obscures the seedier aspects. Russia has many admirable traits, but a kleptocracy is not going to save the West. However, it makes more sense to like Russia than China. Russia is still a white state that does not want to turn whites into a serf class.
Arguably, the most sensible reason for opposing China-blaming is that some of the most cringe people in politics also hate China. These folks also rely on incredibly cringe reasons to oppose China. They don’t oppose China as a racially alien empire that seeks to subjugate whites — they hate China because they don’t respect human rights and democratic virtues. This is a common theme among conservatives. Many Conservative Inc. types started wearing “stand with Hong Kong” t-shirts to NBA games to protest Chinese tyranny. These demonstrations were incredibly lame.
Some on the Dissident Right feel that if you blame China, you further reinforce the cringe arguments against China. It doesn’t have to be this way. It is lame to oppose China on behalf of liberal democratic values. It is good to oppose China based on ethnonationalist concerns. China is a threat to whites and Chinese global dominion is bad for us. The Dissident Right needs to make this the focus.
This allows us to make the case for restricting all immigration from China, and encourages proper nationalist feelings among Americans. It also supports efforts to make America more autarkic and less reliant on foreign industry for critical supplies. Anti-China sentiment needs to be utilized to support nationalism.
Conservatives want to imagine that China is the new Soviet Union that is exporting communism around the world. In truth, they’re spreading out their ethnic power. The battle against China must be seen as a war of peoples, not of clashing global ideologies.
The coronavirus panic undermines the appeal of globalism. Globalism is the disease that brought this virus to Europe and America. Globalism is exploited by the Chinese to further their ethnic power.
Globalists have every reason to support China and defend Chinese misdeeds. The Dissident Right has none.
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Excellent essay.
Great essay. I kind of like the ‘Racism is not the right tool to cover your own incompetence’ comment. Under the Law of Leftist Projection, this means ‘racism’ is precisely the right tool to cover incompetence. In the US, we know this well. It’s called ‘affirmative action’ and ‘civil rights’.
“Liberals also seriously consider China’s conspiracy theories that the U.S. created the coronavirus.”
Liberals, and readers of the Unz Review. That site’s been cancerous these last few weeks.
I hate the Chinese for one reason and one reason alone: they eat dogs.
Authoritarian police state? Meh.
Political prisoners? Don’t care.
Muslims in concentration camps? Sucks to be them.
But the fact that they eat dogs really makes my blood boil. I feel myself turning into a neocon “We must invade China and liberate the puppers! Those doggies need to know the blessings of freedom and democracy!”
I generally don’t trust people who don’t like dogs. Not liking dogs is bad enough but EATING one? Who does that? What kind of inhuman savage would want to eat a dog? How can- you look at their cute little doggy faces and wagging tails and think “I wanna kill that and eat it”?
I would have more respect for them if they were cannibals.
I totally understand.
I was part of a Peace-Keeping mission in Timor Leste (East Timor) in 2009 when I was in the military. The locals have a tendency to torture dogs before they are slaughtered to somehow make the flesh more tender. I remember laying in bed one night listening to the sounds of a caged dog being tortured for hours just over the cement wall from me. Horrendous.
They are absolute savages.
“I would have more respect for them if they were cannibals.”
You seems to be a fundamentalist dog-lover. No offense intended 🙂
Yes, the Chinese eat dogs. Not only do they eat dogs, the way of their killing and cooking dogs are extremely and untinkably brutal. The Koreans eat and kill dogs in similar ways to the Chinese, while the national percentage of dog-eating population against the total population is even higher in Korean Peninsula than in China.
Only the Japanese, out of the eternally rivaling and feuding three Northeastern Asian nations, do not eat dogs. As a matter of fact, apart from whale-hunting and whale meat consumption which makes Japan stand on par with some White Nordic countries in custom such as Norway and even US, Australia, and New Zealand of old days, the Japanese are known for loving, caring, treasuring, and adoring nature, such as mountains, forests, and rivers, and natural creatures especially dogs and horses, as well as cats, birds, insects and others.
Chinese individuals can be good or bad, like all peoples. I know many Chinese Americans, including some immigrants from China, who really are wonderful persons. But China is evil on multiple levels, and an enemy of the West. Nothing good can be said about it (except that its post-Mao capitalist experiment empirically proves once and for all the superiority of capitalism to centrally planned economies).
Anyway, all REAL White nationalists want an all-white apartheid ethnostate (along with the racial cleansing of the old European fatherlands of our race). I don’t want to hear any other shit. I don’t need the presence of ANY non-white in my life. A totally and only white society will in itself solve most contemporary problems. This is what we want. If anyone does not want this (North American ethnostate + racially cleansed Europe) he is not a white nationalist (or a true ally or friend to the white race).
Pigs are at least as smart as dogs, and we eat pigs. Don’t take me wrong, I’m against eating dogs. In fact, I’m a dog owner. But it’s not important that the Chinese eat dogs, although, for the record, the vast majority of them do not partake in “chien”. We cannot to let sentimentality rule our thinking. The real enemy is not the Chinese but traitorous Whites. If there is a danger of Chinese domination of the United States and other White countries in the future, it’s only because “liberal” negroworship will have weakened us to the point of defenselessness. At that point it would hardly matter. Whites might actually be better off under Chinese domination than under President AOC.
No, China does not subjugate or mistreat it’s minorities. This Dissident Right person is, like most right-wingers who think they are better than us “wignats,” ignorant. Right-wingers are almost always ignorant.
In reality, on the back of Chinese money, you will see something like four different languages. Only a tiny percent of the country uses these languages, and yet China recognizes them. China is technically more multicultural in many ways.
However, the different groups in China are usually phenotypically very similar; it is hard even for ethnic Chinese to identify many of their minorities. Of course there are exceptions.
The overall effect, from our perspective, is monoculturalism. China is 90% Chinese, and the minorities usually blend in. But it is technically not true that they do or would oppress minorities viciously. That is what whites did on the past, unfortunately. The Chinese pride themselves on not doing this; it is part of their narrative of superiority to the West. Given that this is a component of ego and pride, it is unlikely that Chinese seek to “subjugate” whites.
What are Chinese doing? Mostly creating independence from the Western global system. However, China is also a diaspora country. About 5% of Chinese live outside of China. These people are very ambitious, and the Chinese people love and encourage emigration. Chinese people love to see Chinese people in high places in foreign countries. Same with Indians and Jews. Chinese people have set up Confucian Institutes to teach the Chinese language and evangelize for traditional Chinese culture, especially in Africa; the effect will probably be little.
Like most confident cultures, the Chinese are expanding. They almost always do it within the laws.
Dumb “wignats” like me are able to see competing cultures and peoples more clearly than magatards. Maga types sees how Other people groups that enter foreign countries and aggressively compete with local peoples (rather than giving comfortable space like a gentle modern European), and buy up the entire society, and do not “assimilate,” and assumes that this is due to them being “bad” in some way.
It is not. It is due to positive attitude. If Indian culture is good and great, why shouldn’t Indians own a huge chunk of Africa? They deserve it! Same goes for Jews.
This is the mentality, and it is actually a positive mentality, not a negative one. This is important to note because If you meet ambitious Jewish or Chinese people, you will like them. You will think they are good people. People who feel good about themselves are happy, and happy people are not evil people. Happy people are also productive, successful people.
This is the tragic thing about our world. Whites are born into a culture in which we have no choice but to feel bad ourselves. Partially because of this, We are also destined to be dominated by peoples who hardly give a shit about our cultures, and do not attempt to “assimilate” and “respect our boundaries” to the extent we would like (though they cannot help but assimilate in some ways, such as language). We are destined for a multicultural world where people who are not-us dominate us, where we are the “new nickers,” so to speak.
Long-term, we are destined for white erasure, as well. Everything you want to conserve will wash away while you sit hopelessly, as a 40% minority in a diverse USA, hoping that the 60% non-white population will get on board with whatever it is you want, so you can still feel like it is your country or something. They won’t. They will dominate you as you gnash your teeth and watch other whites intermarry to get away from the white culture of guilt and teeth-gnashing, and enter into the “better” ascending race-mixed culture.
And it all will happen without evil, because the world is unequal and unfair.
This is where dissident right Deus Vult MAGA gets you. It gets you to that particular confusion that only comes from following a moral idealism that is inconsistent with reality, and therefore must lie about things like Chinese evil. This right-wingism is not really different from Boomer Right-wing ideas. It has been shown to fail.
We would be better off as a non-Christian, mostly homogeneous, racially-unified super-state, with an ethnic and racial mission, like China. This idea succeeds.
But sure, go ahead, dissident-right people, continue to slur us as “wignats” for wanting to implement a self-evidently superior cultural system.
You misspelled immigration and want us to believe you are an expert on China’s domestic politics?
I’m not saying that proper and grammar and spelling equates with expertise, but improper grammar and spelling surely calls someone’s credibility into question.
And naturally I inserted a stray “and” in my grammar and spelling admonition, but I’m not the one on here pretending to have inside knowledge of Chinese cultural and racial harmony.
This is coming from my phone, sorry about typos and other grammar errors.
I have had a lot of experience with Asians, so I think I understand them better than others in these spaces, and I think I also understand the root of people’s misjudgments of Asians.
Having said that, any brief explanation (such as mine) will not fully explain any people. It only serves the purpose of providing the correct perspective on the specific things the OP got wrong.
I appreciate your reply,
But I hardly think that “I’ve been around a lot of Asians” equates to “I’ve lived among the Chinese in their own country, speak their language(s) fluently, and have immersed myself in their culture in their own homeland.”
The Chinese who immigrate to the US or western countries tend to be the ones who hold relatively liberal and western values. (Relatively being the key word). Few people who immigrate from their homeland to a foreign, possibly hostile land do so because they love the country they flee. Yes, economic motivators exist, but even those are related to liberal, westernized ambitions.
Also, the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Surely there are Chinese who are very tolerant, but there are also Chinese who are intolerant. There is a “right wing” as well as a “left wing” (in so far as we can parallel our countries and governments).
I don’t necessarily trust the framing that western media imposes on the Chinese, but I have no reason to doubt that their government seeks to shut down “neo-liberalized” dissension, just as the US seeks to shut down nationalism..:and honestly I’m not even against their government wielding an iron fist in that way.
“Chinese people love and encourage emigration. Chinese people love to see Chinese people in high places in foreign countries.”
They love it because it shows ethnic dominance. Also, they encourage emigration because they hate living in their own country. This is something you will find constantly if you ever live in China. Chinese people constantly send their children abroad to study because they hate the cut-throat and hyper-competitive Chinese schools. Numerous parents if they have the money make a point to have their child born in America or a western nation to escape their own country. Please, explain to us how this low-trust, polluted country is this superior culture?
“Dumb “wignats” like me are able to see competing cultures and peoples more clearly than magatards. Maga types sees how Other people groups that enter foreign countries and aggressively compete with local peoples (rather than giving comfortable space like a gentle modern European), and buy up the entire society, and do not “assimilate,” and assumes that this is due to them being “bad” in some way. ”
This is just an outright defense of colonialism and imperialism which if I remember correctly on other articles, you lamented how bad it was when Europeans did it which is bs and alt-hype has done great videos disproving that whole ethno-masochistic schtick. But, by the sound of your comment it sounds like it is “good” when other groups do that. Please explain?
” Chinese people have set up Confucian Institutes to teach the Chinese language and evangelize for traditional Chinese culture, especially in Africa; the effect will probably be little.”
Confucian Institutes are little more than propaganda centers for the CCP. I doubt they teach the numerous idioms about cheating and lying to people. I also doubt they teach about how China disrespects copyright laws and makes cheating a point of pride in their culture.
“Like most confident cultures, the Chinese are expanding. They almost always do it within the laws. ”
They brag about exploiting and flaunting western laws all the time. What they are doing is still imperialism and it is still colonialism.
Also, Uyghurs are half-caucasian. They are very different from Chinese and are quite easy to spot. The other minorities are very similar genetically to Chinese, but I fail to see how that justifies them suppressing and destroying them culturally.
Your comment just boils down to a defense of Chinese imperialism and colonization. It also looks like you’re recommending we behave the same way as them, but every time I see you comment you have one comment after another lamenting whites previous imperialistic behavior.
You’ve spent a lot time around Asians, yet you never make any distinctions between the groups
and they are different. You spout the same nonsense about the Chinese as the people over at Unz do. You have fallen for the smiling exterior Chinese people choose to present to westerners. I severely doubt you know Chinese because you wouldn’t be defending them like this and I doubt you have lived around them with their numbers in large amounts. Ask an Australian nationalist how they behave in Australia or better yet, live there for a time or go to live in China.
You were on the right lines the first time Mr Wilkinson. Despite claims to the contrary, it’s difficult to believe ‘Sutter’ is part of our circles. Every comment I’ve seen them make appears as a typical troll post and they don’t write in a way I have ever seen any serious white advocate write in. There’s a word salad going on to appear reasoned and thoughtful but when you break it down it’s just a lot of nonsense, always oblivious to the spirit and angle of the article.
Trolling can take different forms, but the most damaging kind of trolling always starts with a claim to a moral, or pragmatic high ground with the assertion that others’ positions are wrong or ignorant, unrealistic or biased with attempts to delegitimize what genuine participants, or in this case writers are doing.
Every post Sutter makes is seems to be intended to foster doubt here.
These kinds of trolls can do a lot of damage. Way more than trolls posting pictures of gas chambers on Twitter. I’ve seen it before sadly.
Oh and the name “Sutter”, it’s an unusual name. Perhaps I’m not as worldly or learned as this fellow professes to be, but the only time I’ve heard it is relation to that John Carpenter film, In the Mouth of Madness – re the character Sutter Cane. And first time I ever heard of that film was from David Yorkshire (who said it was his favorite Carpenter film). Most of Yorkshire’s online content has descended into exactly this kind of ghastly concern trolling aimed at the entire Right and he even claims the Alt Right is a suspicious network propping itself up and excluding ‘the real Right’, i.e people like him from having their say.
He also actively discourages people from donating to Right wing content creators.
Could the Sutter troll be David Yorkshire in one of his alcohol-fueled moments ? I see Yorkshire has updated his shitty blog only yesterday.
If you consider dogs a minority, China is very oppressive to minorities.
Are Tibetans and Uyghurs regarded as Chinese minorities? If so, are the stories about their subjugation and mistreatment false?
Basically, yes, the situation with these minorities is not that bad. The Western media is exaggerating.
The crises in Tibet are many decades in the past by now.
Both Uyghurs and Tibetans are considered Chinese minorities. Personally, I am skeptical of the Muslim concentration camps that people complain about, but that being said Tibetans and Uyghurs are being displaced and bred out of existence by governmental policies that move Han Chinese into their spaces. China forces its minorities to be essentially -Hannized- culturally absorbed. The Manchu ethnic group who used to rule China has been essentially absorbed and most Man don’t even know their own language anymore. This goes for most of the other ethnic groups. China primarily suppresses the culture of their minorities and has slowly been absorbing them into the Han majority.
I’m late to the party — what are ‘wignats’?
It is a slur word for white nationalist, used by right-wing Trump-supporters like Nick Fuentes. The idea is that we are wiggers, white people acting like black people.
As you can see from this article, the types of people who use these words are not intelligent.
This author takes seriously the idea that Chinese people are developing anti-white bioweapons. That is insane, and of course it is untrue.
He hopes that we will have a complete halt to Chinese immigration, and thinks this will inspire nationalistic sentiment in Americans. What the fuck world is he living in? Does he really think that he will rally African Americans behind anti-Chineseness? Or any other minority? It would be the opposite. It would incense them; it would further anti-white hatred. It would make people hate the USA and whites even more.
We have to be very careful of these dissident right people. After Charlottesville, outright white advocates dropped like flies, and less radical MAGA types filled the void, confident in their moral superiority.
Indeed, we are insane and unhappy folk. But as insane as we are, we have few intellectual blocks, unencumbered by moral commitments to political ideas. Our cause being physical, can tolerate ideological fluidity. For this reason, we actually have more open minds than right-wing dogmatic types, and see truth better.
Please, know that Just because Greg publishes them does not mean you should trust them. Greg does not endorse everything published here. He publishes a variety of things to broaden the appeal of this site and pull people in.
By “american” the author surely thought of white americans.
However I disagree in the sense that he switched cause and effect: it’s a (white) nationalist sentiment that will lead to a halt of chinese immigration.
It seems to me that you wouldn’t want to halt non-white immigration to the US. Why?
Hampton is an excellent writer. Plus, I have no idea what you’re talking about. China is an enemy, indeed, The Enemy long term. Grow up. Chinese spies, appallingly allowed to work in US weapons labs (!), are routinely exposed and deported. Still-communist but also Han supremacist China is a disgusting tyranny that learned (unlike some white nationalists) that capitalism works. But they don’t play fair. They abuse western greed in order to steal our technologies as the price for access to their market (and Lenin’s rope-sellers of course comply). They wreck their own environment, which increasingly ruins the global biosphere.
What the West needs is more enemies (if we are to defeat globohomo and liberalism). We should be constantly aggressing against Muslim powers, and Trump should use this virus as an opportunity to force American companies and their precious “long supply chains” to bring manufacturing BACK TO THE USA. He could ride that sentiment to reelection. (Not that Trump is so wonderful, but any Democrat would be much worse for white interests.)
We must REBUILD FORTRESS AMERICA! Trump must not let this crisis go to waste.
Sad to see this author is falling into formation for another D-vs-R fistfight. Look, just because shitlibs say ‘x’ doesn’t automatically make ‘not x’ the truth. Oftentimes in life, there are more than two possibilities that should be explored.
In this case, for example, I can think of at least six possibilities right off:
1.) It was an intentionally released Chinese bioweapon
2.) It was an intentionally released US bioweapon
3.) It was an unintentionally released Chinese bioweapon
4.) It was an unintentionally released US bioweapon
5.) It was an intentionally released Israeli bioweapon, or …
6.) It’s a naturally occurring virus, just like the other strains of Corona
Absent any meaningful evidence, I don’t see that we need to fall into line behind any of these theories just yet, although everyone’s free to speculate as they wish. I get your point that Chinese state media can’t automatically be trusted, but nor can the Western media–anybody here remember 9/11?
Truthfully, my biggest concern at the moment is that they’ve now done just about everything but literally suspend the Constitution, and hardly anybody seems bothered by that. I mean, martial law? Calling out the National frickin’ Guard? Are we all cool with that? And what about when they roll out the mandatory vaccines? Hey–they’ve already given BigPharma legal immunity in advance from any civil damage suits for f*ck-ups, so what could possibly go wrong?
And somewhat more darkly: does anybody else here think this just might be a giant exercise in crowd control or population manipulation? Are we still going to be arguing about D-vs-R while they haul all away to the FEMA camps?
Food for thought!
There’s a new study that shows it’s natural, you might wanna read up on it, it might lower your conspiration theory anxiety.
MacArthur should have been allowed to bomb China in the 50’s and Nixon/Kissinger should never have pursued the opening to China. As usual, racialists have been right on all the issues (see Revilo Oliver and Jack London on the Yellow Peril). Just google how many chinks are born a day and you’ll see it’s anywhere from 47 and 49 thousand–a DAY. They are the real plague of locusts and are on the march.
One does have to analyse the enemy and recognize their strengths. Because they are extremely ethnocentric and racist, they will survive. The chinks have bounced back from many disasters in their history. They’ve got a strong devotion to family and race and will be around even if their numbers are drastically reduced.
Great! My parents were John Birchers as well as racially conscious Southerners and loved General Chiang-Kai shek, General Douglas MacArthur, Barry Goldwater and Governor George C. Wallace.
Our bumper stickers: “Impeach Earl Warren,” “Get US out of UN,” “Wallace for President.”
The hot takes coming from Mr. Hampton lately have been great. Ignore that “Sutter” guy and his Kalergi Plan propaganda. At least the WigNats of old hated race mixing. The Neo-WigNats happily support race mixing, unlimited immigration, cosmopolitanism, and, if they are being honest with themselves, the entirety of the WOKE agenda, just as long as they get their socialist gibs, and just as long as Corona Chan doesn’t come for them.
Arguably, the most sensible reason for opposing China-blaming is that some of the most cringe people in politics also hate China
Must be an American thing. In Australia, many of the cringiest policies are Sinophiles. Consider the former Senator Sam Dastyari. In November 2017, Dastyari was confronted in a pub by some nationalists, who made some unkind remarks about his Iranian background and his apparent loyalty to Chinese interests. This made the news and Dastyari was reported to be considering legal action against those who heckled him..
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/09/you-terrorist-sam-dastyari-abused-by-right-wing-group-in-melbourne-bar
Fast forward a month to January 2018 and Dastyari was forced to resign after being described by the Office of National Assessment (ONA) as an “agent of influence” and part of China’s aim to build local support for its policy positions around the world. Thousands of Australians signed petitions calling for him to be charged with treason.
China exerts a frightening level of influence over Australian domestic affairs – and should be criticised for this. It is also an illiberal state that prioritises the well-being of its ethnic nationals over others. Inside it’s own borders (it’s real borders, not the extended ones that include Tibet) I see nothing wrong with this.
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Correction – pollies not policies.
This article overlooks probably the most obvious reason to dislike the Chinese, which is that they are utterly execrable people.
In Australia, around 5-6% of the population is Chinese thanks to mass immigration, and we also have a sizeable population of Chinese students attending our universities (where they relentlessly promote Chinese politics, plagiarize constantluy and annoy the poor native students who are forced to do group assignments with them). They constantly run scams, push up our housing prices and practice all forms of nepotism. They are rude, greedy and disingenuous.
In the recent Coronavirus panic, they have shown themselves to be among the worst of the hoarders, and groups of Chinese are now busing out to rural towns and buying up essential supplies and selling them at a markup back in the cities. But this is just a more extreme version of what they normally do – they are notorious for buying up milk powder and shipping it back to China.
I have yet to meet an Australian nationalist who shares the opinion of China-supporting white nationalists like Andrew Anglin or Mike Enoch. The US, despite its flaws, is infinitely preferable to the horror awaiting us if China gains dominance over Australia.
Sure enough, John Derbyshire would disagree… This wouldn’t be good for his sci fi Arctic Allance crap. Things would be a lot more better, had Japan colonized the whole place in the forties: there would be no commies then
I see no problem in calling it the “Wuhan virus” or “China flu”, it’s simply a geographical name for the source of the outbreak, politics has little to do with it.
The only problem with “China flu” is that it doesn’t specify which one of the many flus they shared with the world…
The Chinese state is what it is, but the Han are a disgusting race of unhygienic, Mammon-worshipping bugmen. Their repulsive dietary habits are to blame for not only Corona, but also the Spanish flu and the Black Death.
Most pandemics in the world can be traced back to a Han eating, or a Bantu fucking a known disease carrier.
I concur.
At times, it is quite beneficial to have some metaphysical authority that expressly regulates your dietary habits.
Logically, I think the following is true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J3VeogFUOs
Emotionally this POV is beyond me
This is all very troubling for me. I am a white American: 50% English, 25% Irish and 25% German. There aren’t too many people whiter than me.
But we all know the Chinese IQ is 105, 5 points smarter than we are. We also know that Chinese living in America have lower crime rates, higher IQs, and are more sexually restrained than we are. I think the work of J. P. Rushton would back me up 100% on all of this. I worked as an engineer in America for 23 years and my experience with Chinese engineers was that they were smarter than me, very kind to me, and all and all excellent engineers (better than I was and I wasn’t that bad).
On the other hand, Mao was the worst mass murderer of the 20th Century. My first serious girlfriend was from Taiwan. She hated Mao and her parents left the mainland in 1949 or so just as Mao was taking over. It didn’t work out with her but she was very ladylike, anti-feminist, and I don’t regret at all the two years we were together. I also knew some delightful Chinese ladies in Engineering School at Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo.
So I don’t quite get it calling Chinese scum and so on. Their government may indeed be aweful but is it much worse than ours? Did they drop atomic bombs on the Japanese? Did they firebomb Dresden Germany and kill thousands of white German Civilians? No, we did that. Or at least our government did.
I can’t claim to be an expert on the virus, but I do read articles about it every day. I certainly wouldn’t put it past our government to have generated the Covid virus but I really don’t know.
You misspelled immigration and want us to believe you are an expert on China’s domestic politics?
I’m not saying that proper and grammar and spelling equates with expertise, but improper grammar and spelling surely calls someone’s credibility into question.
Perhaps I missed where he misspelled it unless you’re speaking of his use of “emigration”–which he was using correctly by discussing their encouragement of people moving out and not moving in, which would then be immigration. That would be rather ironic considering your comment.
With no intention to explicitly offend him, but this Sutter guy’s misplacing and appalling ignorance and/or foolishness were indeed dumbfounding and made me speechless. Claiming that “China does not subjugate or mistreat its minorities” by citing multiple languages on the back of Chinese banknotes are beneath your normal naivety and shallowness. Has he never heard of terms like “lip service”, or “window dressing”, or simply “lies and deceptions”?
Also, although some ethnic minority groups are phenotypically similar to Han, such as Tujia, due to thousand years of habitat vicinity, political subjugation, and forced or voluntary cross-marriage, all the major and large ethnic minorities that have dwelled relatively distantly from the central land of Han, such as Tibetan, Mongol, Uyghur, are vastly different from Han phenotypically. For example, the Tibetan population possesses a Type D of YAP+ genetic factor that is unseen in Han Chinese and only exist in Japan and Andaman Islands anywhere else in Asia. And the half-Caucasian Uyghurs and Indo-Plateau Tibetans are easily differentiable from Han Chinese in looks.
There are mountains and oceans of hard evidence of premeditated and systematically enforced, vicious and brutal suppression, persecution, and cold-blooded slaughtering of ethnic minorities at the hands of Han authority or Han settlers in the ancestral land of ethnic minorities such as Tibet, Inner Mongolia, and the Northwest New Territory (Xinjiang), which had been inhabited by Tibetans, Mongols, and Uyghurs respectively since time immemorial. The Chinese authority not only plotted meticulously to encroach on, curtail, and dispossess the religions, life customs and rights of using and getting educated in native languages of all those ethnic minorities living inside China’s hugely expanded border through invasion and annexation in the history until the mid of the last century, the Chinese government and military forces routinely demolished Tibetan Buddhist monasteries, imprison and torture Tibetan monks, confiscate Mongolian pasture and bulldozed villages for seizing mineral resources and mining rights, rounded up tens of thousands of Uyghur Muslims and goaded them into concentration camps and even machined-gunned entire Moslem villages suspected of harboring so-called terrorists in a land that had always been the homeland of Uyghur people and never belonged to Han China in the first place.
In early 1950s, there were only less 5 percent of Han Chinese in the total population of Xinjiang, today, almost 60% were Han settlers in this vast ancestral land of Central Asian Turkish people (The size of Xinjiang is only slightly smaller than Alaska with huge oil, gas and mineral resources). The Manchurian ethnicity that originated from today’s Northeast China and had ruled China for almost 300 years as the founder of the last feudal dynasty in China’s history, currently has a population slightly below 10 million. You know how many of them still know how to speak and write their mother language under the Han domination and forced assimilation? Fewer than 200 nationwide. The Chinese regime also forcibly removed young Uyghur girls from their hometown, relocated them in mainly Han territory of Center and East China in the pretense of finding new jobs for them or training their work skills, and forced them to marry local Han men as a means of ethnic cleansing. All these are well documented hard facts.
The ruthless and conscienceless Han Chinese are certainly fully willing to do all these to White people once they feel themselves capable enough of carrying them out, like what they are doing to the above ethnic minorities currently under their control. If the current state continues, which I mean if the Western establishment and elite rulers, liberal and conservative alike, together with the mainstream media, continue to empower and enable China in the name and mechanism of globalization and free trade, the Chinese menace manifest by rampant violence and wanton terror will eventually land on the doorstep of every White household in earnest, in a not distant future.
His passages on the grim and alarming scenario about the future of White Americans are both sound and sobering, and it is also reasonable to call for learning some mentalities and practices of China, yet both arguments neither negate the evil of the Chinese regime nor deny the inherent and fundamental traits of immorality, disingenuity, and duplicity of a vast majority of Han Chinese, let alone conceal the critical, crucial, and consequential fact that China is ambitiously and ruthlessly scheming and striving to realize the downfall of the White race and Western world. Furthermore, as Mr. Hampton has pointed it out in his article, China is “exploiting globalism” for its own strategic and substantial advantage, and aims to completely replace US as the new leader and flag carrier of globalism in the eyes of globalist elites establishment.
As I have argued repeatedly before in my past articles or comments, White nationalists must understand that while we can admire and selectively adopt and learn some meritorious tactics and measures from China, we should wisely advise our movement and ourselves against swooning all over China and misperceiving it as a paragon or an ally of us, just like we should not blankly endorse or fall for the so-called White Sharia. The correct attitude and practice of approaching China in today’s era of complicated and dynamic global struggle and transformation is reflected by a classic Chinese expression when China and the West were in a reversed power situation more than a century ago when China was the one anxiously pondering on the right ways of dealing with the powerful and intruding West. The expression is “to learn and grasp foreign strengths and skills and use them to counter and contain the same foreign enemies” i.e., 師夷長技以制夷。
By the way, I have lived among the Chinese in their own country, speak and write mandarin Chinese fluently, besides Japanese and English, and have immersed myself in their culture in their own homeland for years.
I don’t know what them having an average IQ 5 points higher or being less impulsive has to do with anything (which isn’t true wrt Germanic nations). There are so many of them, and immigration is selective for all of those things, that these results are entirely predictable based on that.
This is a very difficult problem for us. We can rely on the other races to be incompetant or uncivilised and give us reasons to begin the political process. The E. Asians are too wily for that. They are extremely patient.
Then, if we initiate, it will be interpreted as bad sportsmanship and jealousy, considering our penchant for fairness and merits. They know this part of us very well, everyone does, because the Conservatives have made that policy number one. The IQ-supremacists are also not helping.
It’s going to be hard to wriggle our way out of this one, unless people suddenly become very illiberal. We can’t help but ‘lose face’.
We must fall back on the topics of: societal cohesion (anti-multiculturalism), respect for nature, rejection of Mammon, appreciation of beauty, and finally, circumspection.
Circumspection, because China is like an opaque blob on planet Earth. We only have a few observers into the workings and mass communications of that place. Meanwhile, they have easy access to almost of our culture (including Counter-Currents). They might be slower to replace us than the others, but they will.
Our position is weak. They simply have the numbers, and a white culture that they can excel in. They don’t need a metapolitics or a political philosophy to explain or guide or transform what they are doing, and it doesn’t matter if their diaspora becomes mixed-race. It’s in their DNA. And they are just such Good Boys and Girls, well, excepting their chauvinism.
The Chinese also eat the brains of live monkeys. An expensive delicacy at exclusive banquets.
Lots of truth in this post. The Chinese, Koreans, and to a more or less extent other East-Asians should be seen as principle-less monetary success machines. The biggest mistake we do in relating to them is assuming that somehow they share our capacity for imagination and idealism, that they can somehow establish any other measure of success in life for themselves other than material wealth — which automatically elevates them to the top-dog position of the social horizon they inhabit.
Well, most of them cannot.
Matters such as honor and principle are foreign to them and they will only engage in “honorable” and “principled” behavior as a means to a material end. It came as an epiphany for me when a Chinese poster on a forum I frequent declared that its people couldn’t have projected power so far and wide as European humans did because they lacked “our conformism”[!!!]. What it meant by this is that a Chinese will forget all sorts of allegiance to its polity when far enough from the yoke; and won’t “conform” to the established rules it hitherto lived its life by and achieved its measure of worldly success by. This creature couldn’t even imagine that there might be some other, internal mechanism, driving a person to be faithful to principles that both he and his sovereign power might share and hold themselves to.
The thing didn’t have a concept of what we might call “idealism” or ” principled action”, so it used the term “conformity” — in some stellar bit of irony, considering how its race has a tendency to heavily gravitate towards the mean of a normal distribution by all psychometrics and hold an eerily uniform system of values.
>The IQ-supremacists are also not helping.
The IQ supremacists are just being tactical. You don’t need to be too far right on that bell curve to realize that although the Chinese make for good low-tier accountants and store managers, most of their aerospace is a product of Russian engineering and research — sometimes even bought “in bulk” like with the MiG-MFI and the AL-31.
These hominids are as foreign to us as the blacks are. The fact that they can function in a normal human society shouldn’t diverge from that truth. To preach to the choir, humans are just inherently different, there’s no scale value to place each human race upon.
Is anyone else having trouble replying to comments?
@Comtaose
I’m glad Im not the only one who sees his comments as tiresome and dated.
Lovely Phenotypes,
When you remarked “tiresome” and “dated”, did you mean my comments? Or the comments of Sutter? Thanks for clarifying it.
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