Counter-Currents
The Buran, the Soviet Union’s abandoned Space Shuttle from the 1980s, as it appears today.
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I frequently see articles by race realists expressing a pro-futurist, pro-technology angle. I roll my eyes, but that’s fine. If you’re an optimist concerning technology, so be it. But if you don’t explore the underlying issues that would make that tech-future possible, you haven’t made your case. All of that tech has to be backed up with the resources that foster a climate of innovation, and which can support industry and markets built on those innovations. These are big concerns, but as we have had these elements and they have functioned so well for so long, we tend to take them as givens. But without the necessary fossil fuels to support them, it will fail. And despite assurances to the contrary, we can no longer take energy for granted.
There are plenty of good reasons to pursue a space program, but we must always be wary of the sort of blind assumptions that undergird techno-futurist thinking. Space colonization is the stuff of fantasy, better left to Hollywood. To devote our energies to a “destiny among the stars” is a diversion from our real mission, which is of course a white homeland. In the here, and in the now.
The discussion below will focus on the likelihood that ours is not a technological future, and that our destiny is not the stars; moreover, that Earth is our home, for which we must fight. Our challenge is to resume our proper place as the rulers and guardians of our lands and people. We are not destined to run away to some sublimated version of Heaven on some other planet. Our ancestors entrusted us with the care of a great treasure, a treasure which our immediate forbears have allowed to be overrun and despoiled by interlopers. It falls to us to recover what is ours, to remember and celebrate our ancestors, and to become ancestors who will one day be worthy of being honored.
I certainly do not expect complete agreement from all readers; I suggest, however, that careful study of the numbers pertaining to oil production and the projections for future drilling from unbiased sources is needed. Trust no one offering only clear skies and vast horizons. The world is full of liars and fools. I can’t stress enough the need to think much more carefully about energy resources.
In the film Interstellar, the main character says, “Mankind was born on Earth. It was never meant to die here.”’ It’s nice dialogue, but it’s fiction, and it could not be more wrong. Just because something sounds good doesn’t mean it makes sense. Man is an animal, like any other: a simple biological machine. No animal can survive for long outside of its element. To exempt man from this rule is to make him a god. We are not gods. Remember what follows hubris.
Man was not merely born on Earth, he is born of Earth. Man is Earth. Beyond our atmosphere, he is little better than a fish out of water. Indeed, a man could much more easily survive underwater than he could in space. Imagine living life entirely underwater, never having contact with land, air, or any of the other resources of that world again. Once your breathing apparatus stopped working, its replacement would have to be manufactured underwater, as would the machines to manufacture that apparatus. The structures you occupy, any means of transportation or communications gear, desalinization equipment, and so forth – just to name a few essentials – all would have to be made underwater. Apart from sheer muscle power, all the work of any consequence that has ever been carried out by man has been accomplished by burning fossil fuels. Difficult to do underwater; more difficult still in space. And if we think that’s difficult, imagine farming underwater, where there is no soil, little light, only salt water for irrigation, and so on. Farming in space would present its own unique problems that would likely make feeding ourselves far more difficult.
And then of course there are the psychological effects of trying to adapt to a completely inhospitable world. Imagine the long-term effects of living exclusively in a necessarily tiny, enclosed habitation; undergoing decreased illumination, as well as a lack of wide-open spaces and vast horizons; and enduring the suffocating effects of knowing that you are surrounded on all sides by a hostile, lethal environment. How would that affect our facility for ambition and adventure, or even just the maintenance of proper mental health? Ever had a dream where you’re suffocating? I imagine there’d be a lot of that.
Man needs Earth because, again, he is Earth. We are made of the same carbon and water, in a finely-tuned mix, as the planet. Man is adapted to fulfill his bodily needs with what this planet provides, and he is adapted psychologically to the demands of this planet. Some will retort, “Well, all we need to do is find another planet like Earth to go to.” Do we realize the odds of that occurring? Do we, here at the peak of civilization, even have a close approximation of Earth in our sights? Do we not realize how delicate is the balance of factors that create and maintain life on this planet? A simple virus can wipe out a continent’s worth of people, as it did with the American Indian. Our own planet is dangerous to human life! Imagine the infinite ways of buying the farm on Planet X.
And even if we were to find a planet identical to Earth, how would we get there? It would require vast resources, both in terms of money and fossil fuels. Let’s assume we can find a way to get there (no small assumption!), imagine the weight of the payload which would include enough fossil fuels to build a civilization on another planet, along with the crew of workers required to do it. Imagine the danger of such a launch were it to fail on liftoff. The explosion and losses would be immense, and the attempt would never be repeated. And if you think that instead of carrying fuel, you’ll build that civilization with the resources you find there, then you haven’t considered what that would actually require. Get yourself a shovel and dig a hole sometime. Back-breaking labor is instructive.
And further, consider the number of people required to establish a successful (and inevitably temporary) settlement on another planet. It would take hundreds of individual communities on this other planet before we could be assured of the likelihood of man’s survival there. Adam and Eve were a myth. Merely two people would not be able to successfully populate a planet. Some disaster would inevitably befall them and wipe out the entire population – thus the importance of scattered, independent communities.
The numbers that could realistically travel to another planet are substantially smaller than those that came, for example, from Europe to America. And let’s remember that this endeavor was on our own planet, in a place largely the same as where the colonists came from, and that even though there were a lot of us, and in some cases even had help from the native peoples already there, we still failed initially. May I remind the reader how vastly more difficult and expensive a space mission is? One of this scope would be orders of magnitude more difficult and expensive than any other yet attempted.
But even more crucial than all of these factors is that we are running out of oil. Yes, I know, we’re told that we are awash in it: it’s an embarrassment of riches, a veritable feast, a vision of cornucopian plenty.
Don’t believe a word of it.
Despite the recent uptick in the economy (thank you, God Emperor Trump), the most profitable industry in America remains finance. (It’s all a big Ponzi scheme, of course. But that’s a discussion for another time.) What you hear from the media on this subject is mere propaganda. If you listen to NPR (why are we paying taxes for this?), you will soon realize that their primary mission is not the promotion of multiculturalism, feminism, sexual deviancy, or other types of subversion. These are all present, but to a lesser degree. No, it’s to support investors. It’s radio for rich people (SJPL – you figure it out). The other media are more or less the same in this regard. They consider it more important to help business than to protect a few penny stock investors (who, as everybody knows, are always left holding the bag long after the rich have bailed; and are in truth the real source of Wall Street profits – i.e., suckers).
I cannot stress enough that all the hype you are hearing about the oil industry is just that. It’s about investment concerns creating a utopian narrative – based on very little in terms of facts – to keep the profits rolling in. And the media is just as corruptly enmeshed in it as Wall Street, K Street, and our government.
Fracking, no matter how you slice it, is nowhere near as profitable as conventional wells. It costs much more to attain oil through fracking, and the wells play out much quicker. The same can be said for Canada’s tar sands oil. It is very expensive to obtain and is highly environmentally destructive. In short, both of these methods are a textbook definition of “scraping the bottom of the barrel.” The only reason we are doing it at all is because the price of oil has gone high enough to make it profitable, and because there’s no conventional oil to be had that’s not already being exploited.
We are running out of oil. There are fewer and fewer, and ever-smaller deposits of oil – of poorer and poorer quality – being discovered. And yet we burn it up as if it were a use it or lose it proposition. Whatever happened to conserving for the future? And please note, it takes millions of years for our planet to make oil. Don’t expect a replacement supply any time soon. And don’t think that there is anything – anything –that can substitute for it.
Some people believe that solar and nuclear energy will eventually compensate for diminishing oil resources. Solar power is a bad joke. It’s plentiful, to be sure, but is also extremely diffuse. Fossil fuels are very concentrated and are thus very efficient. Concentrating sunlight to make it useful to run a few lights around the house might be a fun hobby, but it won’t power a civilization. All the other much-touted “alternative energies” are similarly useless, including nuclear – which requires the input of about as much fossil energy as it outputs in nuclear energy over the plant’s useful lifespan, and which also can’t substitute for the many other things that fossil fuels are used for, such as plastics. And note that until those nuclear plants, solar installations, wind farms, and so on are built using power from their own resources, they are really just another form of fossil fuel energy, for without fossil fuels, these other forms of energy cannot be usefully exploited in the first place.
Technically speaking, for all you niggling yeabobs, it is true that we will never completely run out of oil. We will simply reach a point of relative scarcity resulting from the difficulty of accessing it, such that it will take more oil to drill and process the crude than the oil thus retrieved can replace. Nevertheless, I expect that for a period we will expend more energy on drilling than the energy we get from it. Thus is the nature of our civilization’s addiction to oil, which we are still in denial about. Everything is made of or from oil, right down to the food on your table! The plowing, planting, and harvesting that produced it; the fertilizer which helped it grow; the packaging which contains it and the vehicles used to ship it to you; and even the cooking of it, of course, unless you’re one of the few still using a wood-burning stove – all require fossil fuels.
The actual roots of this philosophy of “planet abandonment” lie in Christian teachings about Heaven. In this view, life in this world is awful. Live a righteous life, and you’ll go to Heaven. Life here is ultimately meaningless. The greater your suffering here, the greater your reward in Heaven. Give no thought to making the Earth a paradise, as your paradise awaits you above. And so on. I’ve lived long enough to have known a fair number of more or less devout Christians. Christianity is currently being replaced by liberalism, so Christians are increasingly less visible, but the Christians I’ve known have often been openly hostile to environmental concerns. I think it goes back to what I just described: forget the here and now, focus on the hereafter. When you’re raptured, you’ll leave it all behind: your clothing, your beer cans, your cigarette butts, your cares and woes. Thank you, Jesus!
And speaking of transhumanism (roughly speaking, the idea of transplanting a human’s consciousness into a computer or another organism in order to live forever), I can’t be the only one to recognize that it’s basically just the rapture for millennials.
Techno-futurism is a form of cowardice. It abandons all that is real and valuable for that which is vaporous. It says in effect, “Screw you guys, I’m out of here. I’m going to Heaven.” Of course, you have to die to get to Heaven, at which time you’d realize – if you were still conscious – that it’s just a story made up by people who were afraid of dying. All this talk of technology solving our problems by launching us into a perfect world is just silliness. Every innovation comes with a cost, and every step forward comes with an increasingly large downside, as society becomes increasingly complex. Increased complexity is one of the major causes of the collapse of societies, empires, and civilizations.
So not only is there no way out of here, but worse, we’re embracing the cause of the problem – complexity – as its solution. No, what’s needed is radical simplicity. Instead of pinning one’s hopes on a technological savior, we must face some simple and painful truths.
In discussions of space colonization, one inevitably reaches the point where someone will say, “I won’t live to see it. Likely, not even my great-grandchildren will see it. But someday . . .” Sorry, but this is the very definition of procrastination. Earth is our only home. We are going nowhere. Let’s put the thought out of our heads. We simply do not have the resources to achieve it. The stars are nice to look at, and they have much to teach us, but they don’t offer us a way out of our troubles.
Right-wingers who dream of space colonization are engaging in white flight writ large. It must be rejected. We’ve already spread across this world. Space is nothing more than the wall against which the white man is backed, beyond which he can go no further. Stand and fight. This far and no farther. Not for our children tomorrow, but for ourselves today. Right here, right now. We know what we want, so let’s go get it! No vainglorious, procrastinatory speechifying. Futurism is an excuse for sitting on one’s backside and doing nothing, for putting off today’s work until a tomorrow that will never come. Let’s roll up our sleeves and get to work.
Our earthly problems, difficult though they are, are vastly easier to fix than it would be to build some sort of whitopia among the stars. Besides which, if we can’t overcome our enemies here on Earth, we are not worthy of our ancestors, and we should die.
Maybe this is our fate. There’s nothing special about man. Just like all other animals, we will eventually become extinct. That time may come at any moment. We can’t deny it. So, what the hell: die now, or die in a million years, but don’t flee from it. The coward’s blood does not run through our veins. The fault is not in our breeding, but in our indoctrination.
The past half-century has seen white men living as zombies: not quite dead yet, but not truly alive. The spark of manhood in us is dying. It’s a death of a thousand indignities. Our once-proud race has been taught to hate and feel ashamed of itself. We must recover our pride and dignity and channel our anger into vengeance upon those who have tried to destroy us, that they may never be allowed to manipulate us again.
We will no longer allow our brothers to be beaten and killed, our women and children to be taken from us, or our livelihoods and manhood to be destroyed. There is no way out of this. We have a task ahead of us – a sacred duty to our ancestors, ourselves, and our progeny. Stop looking for somewhere to run. Turn around and fight.
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Hey, don’t foist transhumanism onto millenials. Ray Kurzweil is a boomer, and I think you know what else. That’s right 😉 he’s an atheist.
Admittedly, I did go through a transhumanist phase, until I realized it was more Messianic than Nietzschean.
I would like to point out a few things as someone in the Dissident Right who is a Christian.
I believe that Christianity and the main ideas have been perverted. We need Christians to not only use Christianity to explain the world to our children properly instead of letting the globalist cabal dictate the stories to us.
First, Adam and Eve lived to be very old giving them more time to establish the species. There would have obviously been some kind of difference in the earth at that time that allowed for us to live longer. Our goal should be to fix the earth to the point where we can slow ageing down again.
Second, we need to use the Biblical story of the second earth as a way to teach Christians to care for and rule their domains properly. To quote 1 Corinthians 6:2 “Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases?” Modern Christians have abdicated their responsibility to know Truth.
I believe as in the vertigopolitix video A Mythology for the New Right,
Clearly I suck at the editing and tags. The quote from the video is gone. you can view the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPbarIQ50Js
The best of the Psalms are from ancient Egypt. All are pre-Christian. Not anti-Christian, quite the opposite, but you seem to be working from a very odd and incorrect translation.
Article: “Let’s assume we can find a way to get there (no small assumption!), imagine the weight of the payload which would include enough fossil fuels to build a civilization on another planet, along with the crew of workers required to do it.
If mankind ever attempts to cross the interstellar void, “fossil fuels” will not make the journey with him. That assertion is breathtakingly naive. By the time such a leap is attempted, we will have overcome the technical obstacles of fusion power, by which, at the very least, such an interstellar ship would be powered. Aboard that future ship will be fusion-reactors capable of powering a future colony on another world, and not a single drop of “fossil fuels” will be necessary. The very act of mentioning that such would be “necessary” indicates one has not investigated this subject much, if at all, or the solid pathways toward realizing a star colony in the future.
For a moment, contemplate what one of the most powerful intellects of their time said about the likelihood of the Wright brothers airplane: “Lord Kelvin, the President of the Royal Society of England made a forceful declaration: “Heavier than air flying machines are impossible.” Impossible, said this great man of science. Impossible. Let that sink in, before we so easily blow off the likelihood of colonizing other worlds.
Consider that in the year 1902, both Lord Kelvin and much of the scientific world, along with much of the general masses of people, thought that heavier than air flying machines were “impossible”. Then, one year later, in 1903, the world’s great scientific minds saw that it was indeed “possible”. And within the lifetimes of many of those who witnessed that historic breakthrough, 400 mph jet travel was achieved in 1939, a mere 36 years later. From “heavier than air flight is impossible” to jet travel in three and half decades. The lesson in that is that what is considered “impossible” now could be proven otherwise in the course of one lifetime. Fusion power has not been achieved yet, but any year now some brilliant researcher could find the long sought breakthrough. And from fusion power will come virtually unlimited power for the equivalent cost of a few cents a day. And from THAT will come, in time, spacecraft engines sans “fossil fuels” propellant, and mankind will begin to have the tools ready to seek new homes beyond this solar system.
Now, I suspect that the pessimism toward this very possible future is that many alive to today may not live to see the beginnings of it. To glean the emotional equivalent, imagine the 75 year old man on his deathbed in the year 1902, or another 75 year man in similar circumstances in the year 1968 – both so close to living to see heavier than air flight or Man reaching the moon, yet….not quite. What the future holds may bring terror or great promise, but the reality is that many of us may or may not live to see such astonishing – but very possible – breakthroughs. Therefore, we may tend to write them off as credible possibilities. And down that road lies nothing but bleak acceptance that we should give up on the brilliant capabilities of the White Race, and the record he has demonstrated, time and again, of his greatness.
Why pursue space travel just to bring diversity to Mars?
No group which seriously practices affirmative action will be up to the task of conquering space. Something tells me that it would not be very long at all before Lemaricus pressed the wrong button…
Both nuclear and hydro actually produce large net gains in energy after construction and maintenance, after the input of both parts and services that partially derive from fossil fuels. Replacing internal combustion engines with some sort of electric motor and battery storage (solid state, lithium ion, sodium ion) is not far fetched at the moment, we are clearly moving in that direction. As more gasoline powered transportation and construction equipment is replaced with those which are battery powered the amount left of hydrocarbons left for plastics, planes and ship transportation become much larger. These changes would eliminate conservatively 70% of crude oil use. Nuclear and hydro grid energy would power electric construction equipment and heavy industry producing most goods needed by civilization. Oil will still be required but in much smaller amounts which could be sourced from ethanol after we run economical oil some time in the future. Prior to WW2, across Europe doom was predicted when the interdependent and very complex industrial economies were destined too be bombed from the air in the next war. Civilization was predicted to crash, production to slow down to a crawl; instead industrial civilization proved more resilient in the face of shortages of key goods and bombing than ever imagined.
Space exploration and colonization will not be impossible due to their high fossil fuel costs, in comparison with a billion automobiles this is amount is very small even if you launched many large objects into orbit. One great reason to fight for our race is to help realize a future where dreams about space exploration are made a reality. One of the defining characteristics of our civilization is striving towards infinity, which only the white ethnostate will enable us to do. Not just in space exploration but in vast networks of highspeed trains, more efficient forms of nuclear power, great construction projects, creating great cities both livable, traditional and monumental, furthering genetic technology, and rewilding large parts of the continent. This seems much more inspiring to me than we are all going to die due to some club of Rome predictions. Futurism inspires action today to enable a more glorious future tomorrow. Our movement is full of the negative aspects of what awaits us if we do not act, like Frodo gazing into the mirror, which is obviously necessary redpill people. But, crime statistics and horror stories are not the only way to inspire comrades. A positive and glorious vision of the future, like Faye’s archeofuturism, can also provide a novel way to inspire members to action. Hitler and the NSDAP party did not just show the negative aspect of the Weimar republic in their propaganda, but they showed what a Germany with a reinvigorated spirit could accomplish, futurism. Men of action can utilize both the carrot of futurism and the stick of “the future that may come to pass” to help propel the movement.
Excellent points. The charge of ‘utopianism’ has been brought against any number of writers who posed techno-optimistic scenarios for the future. Arthur C Clarke predicted the internet, mobile phones and touch-screen computers in 1976. There is a degree to which the expectation of an outcome drives its accomplishment. I believe Alan Watts wrote on this topic, focused on a more esoteric interpretation than one might find in science fiction, and wonder whether any nationalists have explored this connection.
Capitalism as currently practiced in Western countries works against technology, in that its focus on cheap labour – at home and abroad – retards the development of labour saving innovation.
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“Arthur C Clarke predicted the internet, mobile phones and touch-screen computers in 1976.”
This is true, but should be qualified a bit. ACC wasn’t some lonely writer hack who wrote his books in some attic based on feverish imaginations, isolated from the world. At least from WW2 on, he was a member of or at least acquainted with many members of the emerging high-tech military complex, so in some ways he anticipated further refinements of technologies he had already seen germinating in the war or in labs (he was a radar specialist in the war and already then involved in the development of early-warning radar defence systems).
While by no means I want to besmirch his accomplishments, when examining his life one gets the distinct impression that he served in a way as a mouthpiece for the emerging globalist-technocrat jet set. In that sense he’s comparable to Huxley amd Orwell, two other elite insiders who used science-fiction to herald the new era.
This article can best be summarised as “humanities major tries to comment on technical subject, fails”.
Dunning-Kruger strikes again.
Provide an actual argument or GTFO – his premises and conclusions are more than sound. Space nutters are escapists and cowards.
No mention of SpaceX or BFR… Or Blue Origin and New Glenn, New Armstrong. That’s why John Carter referred to the “Dunning-Krueger” effect.
“Space nutters”
And let me guess: the Moon landings never happened?
As to providing an argument: I provided exactly as much as the article merited.
Come on, don’t strawman me here. Let’s not mix up the topic of ultra-high altitude warfare (“rods from God”, killer satellites etc.) with bona-fide colonization efforts of other worlds. The first one is simply a logical extension of battlespace, the second one is, and I say this without malice, science-fiction.
@Moon landings: I’m agnostic regarding this topic. It’s quite suspicious, though, how little actual, dependable and publicly accessible and verifiable evidence exists for that supposed feat. If this is due to a legitimate desire for secrecy vis-a-vis the Russians and Chinese or due to more sinister aims, I cannot say.
“@Moon landings: I’m agnostic regarding this topic. It’s quite suspicious, though, how little actual, dependable and publicly accessible and verifiable evidence exists for that supposed feat. If this is due to a legitimate desire for secrecy vis-a-vis the Russians and Chinese or due to more sinister aims, I cannot say.”
Aaaand just like that, into the bin your opinions on this subject go.
@Matthias
When you’re talking about spaceflight, you better know what you’re talking about. You don’t know about SpaceX or what a a reusable flyback booster is or the history… but you decided to open your mouth anyway.
I’m quite familiar with SpaceX and similar outfits – “public-private partnerships” designed to funnel public monies into advanced weapons research and to keep the minds of white nerds busy with grandiose, techno-utopian fantasies. Same old, same old; this game goes back at least to WW2.
Protip: follow the rabbit hole on where Musk got his seed money from, and which kind of people were formative during the beginning of his “career”.
Well said.
Musk is kind of smart, but all of his projects rely on subsidies.
I don’t know if Greg or the mods will allow my last post (expect they will), but my old-lady barber was sparked by announcement of our local gazillionaire (neither of us ever heard of him before) booking the Lunar flight.
However, he had booked it much earlier, so it is a bit of a joke, as we agreed, it is hypothetical rocket, not yet human-rated capsule.
I would admire Musk if he would accomplish anything without massive subsidies.
He might invest a llttle of his vast fortune in any of his ventures.
Does not.
Standard Jewish praxis, it is too clear. Whatever the virtues of Musk may be, he has absorbed their theme of ‘let the other pay’, and that is a shame.
Nothing technologically significant can be accomplished without massive subsidies, that’s just the nature of advanced civilization.
Besides, Musk is probably one of us.
Sure, I agree to some extent, but reliance on state subsidies when he has so much private wealth, it is a very Jewish strategy.
The Space-X engineers did a masterpiece in demonstrating the ability to reland the first stage. AFAIK, whether it is reuseable or not remains in question, and has not been tested.
The Dragon capsule is not yet man-rated, which is what I and my old-lady hairdresser or barber were talking about.
… and that the launch rocket does not exist.
I think that Musk will pull it off, but the failure to meet promised timing (Dragon capsule being man-rated, the Big Fucking Rocket existing) does not work out. The gazillionaire who booked a circumlunar with Space X may have been better off with the similar offer on Soyuz, I am surprised that none of the mega-exploiters took that up.
Perhaps it is no longer on offer.
One of my regrets in life is never having flown on the Concorde. Not that it would not have killed me financially at the time.
Also pointless with an aisle seat.
The best sub-orbital experience is offered in Russia, you can pay very little, few tens of thousands of dollars to ride a ballistic flight on a fast fighter jet to a very high altitude, and have the training for it (which my old-lady friend also well understood, one of her complaints abt. commercial space flight is that they have no training).
Virgin Galactic is going nowhere, they have obscene prices, nothing to show, many of their initial bookings are doubtless dead by now.
If you have the cash and the time, and don’t care about gossip with arseholes, am pretty sure the Russian fighter experience would be vastly superior to whatever Virgin Galactic ever produces, and they produce nothing except a spectacular and deadly accident.
The development of nuclear powered spacecraft was seriously considered during the early 1960s. It was called Project Orion and the eminent physicist Freeman Dyson did much of the theoretical work. A small scale mock up using conventional power source was constructed and demonstrated to President Kennedy. Large sections of Project Orion are still classified, so with the necessary political will the technology is likely potentially workable.
The “technology Y will negate all negative effects of technology X!” line has stopped working on me a long ago. Each advance in technology has only truly meant more alienation, environmental destruction and has helped multiculturalism and liberalism spread globally at an astonishing pace. Space flight is the penultimate of dehumanization to me: ripping us from our only natural habit and putting us into cages of steel with nothing around us but death hoping we’ll take better care of our planet next time.
However, I can also appreciate Alt-Atlantics well-informed and positive outlook and I have to admit that an extreme focus on the ills of technology will lead to a seemingly defeatist attitude and might only serve to alienate others.
On the other hand, the fervor applied by some when it comes to defending a technology that has yet to be invented outside of Frank Herbert’s novels always gives me the idea that some people are a little more religious than they’d like to admit. It also stifles discussion about a subject which somehow still seems taboo: the criticizing of technology.
Looking forward to your next article, Eugene.
We are stuck with technology. Let’s assume that Whites regained full control over Europe, North America, and New Zealand tomorrow, and then settled on some sort of low-tech, ultra-traditional, Amish-style existence. How long do you think it would be before some non-White, high-tech race, most likely the Chinese, kicked in the door?
The Chinese are already copying SpaceX reusable booster technology.
In the last 500 years technology advanced in the framework of rapacious (((capitalism))), and we can’t solve our problems today because our political class is owned by the Money Power. I refuse to believe that autonomous white governance would be no better.
If a space flight to the next colonizable planet only takes a few hours, it’s bearable. (Let’s not forget that humans started to fly only a hundred years ago, and today even Nigerian Airlines will take you across the Atlantic Ocean in 6 hours.) And Earth used to be dead, but somehow it turned into this blue and green place teeming with life – with clever bioengineering technology we can probably repeat the same process elsewhere, in a much shorter timeframe.
Compare and contrast the early photos of the Earth from space with those of now.
It is instructive.
In Africa, in particular, the denudation of vegetation is stRiki-Eiking.
Recently, there is a ‘water aid’ campaign.
They may work out just to not cut down anything in sight, I have no sympathy.
And your mask drops. You blame technology for African problems when we reactionaries should know what the real problem with Africa is…
My mask drops!? I am not wearing one. You may read more carefully before saying such a thing in response.
It is obvious that the main factors in desertication and deforestation in Africa are the locust-like population growth there.
I see the recent ‘Water Aid’ posters, a sub-Saharan child with a plastic (presumably water) tank walking along a dirt road through scrub, and a Japanese child with a primary school backpack, and have no sympathy for the former.
Sub-Saharan Africa was water-rich, at least with the possible exception of the southern tip (corresponding to parts of South Africa and all of Namibia). That it is becoming less and less so is only a consequence of their own irresponsibility. They should be left alone and confined to stew in what they make, not given aid.
We have enough fissionable material to maintain technological civilization here on Earth for tens of thousands of years, perhaps for a good deal longer if we develop more sophisticated reactors of the deep-burn and thorium variety. So we will not be running out of power any time soon, even if practical nuclear fusion continues to elude us.
The real problem is that eventually something very, very bad will happen to the biosphere, such as an Impact Winter brought about by an asteroid strike or a Volcano Winter brought about by geological upheaval. If something like the former occurs, then we had better have the ability to divert incoming celestial objects, which means a sophisticated space-faring capability; if the latter, then even the combined acting skills of Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck will not be able to save us, in which case the continuity of civilization and perhaps the survival of the species will depend on the existence of self-sustaining off-world societies.
That said, I do agree with the author that we be unduly optimistic about the ease of colonizing space. I suspect that permanent settlements on other planets will not be practical for many centuries, if ever, mostly because of the biological difficulties of adapting to low-gravity environments such as those found on the Moon and Mars. The real solution to such problems will probably involve the construction of large rotating habitats of the kind proposed by Gerard K. O’Neil several decades ago, and those will only be affordable once we figure out how to exploit the resources of the Moon and the asteroid belt, which (in theory) is easy to do in terms of energy expenditure, thanks to their shallow gravity wells.
Another solution to the problem, perhaps, will be brought about by gene-editing and related bio-technologies: If we’re not smart enough to figure out ways to get into space permanently, then perhaps our genetically upgraded descendants will be up to the task. Freeman Dyson once once observed that the real barriers to space travel are biological in nature, not physical.
One must understand that a “White homeland” on Earth isn’t a good enough insurance for civilization if one understands the logical conclusion of “abolishing Whiteness.”
Abolishing Whiteness means abolishing Russia… a massive nuclear armed entity. Getting rid of White people requires getting rid of Russian people. People with nuclear weapons. Russia is a White homeland, and globohomo wants to start WWIII with Russia.
SpaceX and Blue Origin has shown the way. Even the Chinese are copying the reusable VTVL rocket technology. The Chinese know that “Abolishing Asians” is the next big thing for globohomo.
Living in the ocean is easy. Earth’s oceans teemed with life for at least a billion years before anyone thought of crawling onto land. I doubt, however, that a marine life form could ever develop a technological civilization because you can’t burn anything underwater.
In The Right Stuff, Ed Harris says, “No bucks, no Buck Rogers!” I say, no fusion, no Buck Rogers. No battery is ever going to lift us off this planet, fossil fuels require a skyscraper-sized rocket to a lift compact-car-sized payload, and fission creates a new Chernobyl with every launch. The only fissionable elements, uranium and thorium, form concentrated deposits in Earth’s crust but are extremely rare and diffuse in the rest of the Solar System.
Fusion does not look promising even down here on Earth, where reactor weight is not a concern. No one can figure out how to achieve a self-sustaining chain reaction when most of the energy output escapes as fast neutrons, which cannot be confined magnetically and quickly ruin the equipment. Even inside H-bombs, fusion is used as a neutron source, not an energy source.
The war today is between the despotism of the East and the Liberty of the West. The Chinese were astronomers long ago, because the heavens contain a lot of nothing, the east has long been full of jarbled philosophies on nothingness, in the west we practiced love and hard work. Fantasies about colonizing other worlds is simply a diffusion of ever more eastern despotism into our lands. The fact is the west is extreme decay and acclerationism is the new futurism, faster and faster we reach our demise.
And you object because our society once had a functioning space program. The technology does not exist today to do the same thing we did 50 years ago in space, it is lost. Today our astronauts in this moment are dealing with a psychotic woman who refuses to share the toilet with the male astronauts and there is only one toilet onboard the space station. Someone drilled a hole in the wall of the station and caused a vacum leak into space because they were trying to get the mission to end and have the astronauts evacuated. This is the state of space exploration.
What are you on about? Astronomy was practiced everywhere, most certainly including the West, back to prehistoric times. Europe contains numerous megalithic observatories, used to determine the precise time of year for the purposes of agriculture. Then there are such luminaries as Hipparchus and Ptolemy – why do you think the stars have Greek designations? – to say nothing of the absolute explosion of astronomical activity following Galileo. To say astronomy was Chinese and our ancestors were but simple farmers who never lifted their eyes from the soil is just bafflingly ignorant.
As to the current state of the space program, I agree that the toilet story is lulzy, but that just illustrates how jewed up everything is. The only reason we didn’t go back to the Moon and press on to Mars is because boomers lost the will to do so. Cummies and weed were more important to them.
Yes you got what I was saying, our ancestors were simple farmers, they fostered up a great society, and the small number of european men that took up these eastern arts like astronomy and Abrahamic religion were able to make advancements greater in those fields than the cultures that gave rise to them.
I am not saying men will never reach the stars but this is still a science fiction topic that has little overlap with the advancement of the race today.
Which part of “megalithic observatories” didn’t you understand? White men have been doing astronomy since the stone age. Your contention that astronomy is some foreign import from the Orient is the kind of retardation that gives our movement a bad name.
Mass movements will always have retardation. I would rather have ten military officers and brilliant billionaires to take on the Deep State than 100 million Tea Partiers.
Painting techno-futurism as abandoning the earth for an ethnostate on the moon is a strawman. This isn’t about guns and butter – in fact we can harness technofuturism to aid our – in your view – ‘fight for the earth’ (and we better do it, before another high IQ civilization beats us to the punch). Furthermore you misunderstand the fundamental basis of how technology advances. Its a series of steps – as we reach the end of one resource or technology, we discover or invent a way to utilize the next one, bringing us a more comfortable standard of living and new mastery over our environment. Despite the clear history of this, you believe that we have just so happened to reach the final rung on this ladder. This echoes the conceited religious trope that, of the 4 billion years the earth has been around, it just so happens that the rapture-pocalypse will vindicate the believer within their infinitesimally short lifetime. Really it must be dismal to have such a poor imagination.
“This isn’t about guns and butter – in fact we can harness technofuturism to aid our – in your view – ‘fight for the earth’ (and we better do it, before another high IQ civilization beats us to the punch).”
Precisely.
‘Hey guys let’s abandon space to concentrate on our fight for the Earth!’
>Chinese go to space
>Drop big rocks on your armies, annihilating them
>Literally nothing you can do
>Now China owns Earth and space
Yep. Abandoning space to LARP as iron age peasant farmers is definitely the way to safeguard the ethnostate.
Yep. Abandoning space to LARP as iron age peasant farmers is definitely the way to safeguard the ethnostate.
Living the way iron age peasant farmers did won’t be a matter of choice, when and if a collapse of our ecocidal civilization occurs.
Eugene Westerly (or is it, Carlylean Restorationist…?) said, “No, it’s to support investors. It’s radio for rich people.”
Just a check, Eugene… is a person’s class determined by how much money/investments are in his bank account?
The discourse is dominated by philosophy and modern history folks who don’t seem to think much about the various economic schools. They see a 150 years of court propagandists in certain economic “schools,” discount the field, and are unaware that the physiocrats were essentially correct in the first place. Important realizations about what credit really is and what credit can enable were layered on this foundation. Modern credit creates the ability to leverage future energy usage for production today.
The space exploration meme really comes from the USA frontier meme and manifest destiny. The Russians had their equivalent. The original manifest destiny meme really was based mostly on indio depopulation. Sorry, Jared Diamond is right here. Whites showed up to two mostly depopulated continents because Eurasian diseases killed everybody off. If the indians didn’t drop dead every time whites and chickens and pigs showed up, Europe would be an unremarkable part of the modern global economy. The indios weren’t dumb like Africans, they just died en masse whenever whites and their animals appeared. It was the bounty of the depopulated New World and grabbing it first that created two hundred years of European dominance.
The moon and mars are not the Americas circa 1650. They are boring places to go and die of cancer from radiation exposure, or to starve to death when your fragile food sludge machine breaks down and there is no remedy. It’s just dumb. The solar system is well surveyed at this point and there is nowhere worth sending humans. Some mining outposts staffed by a small crews on Mercury and Mars or working asteroids might theoretically make sense, but so what. Their jobs would be temporary posts. There will be no space colonization. I doubt any of this will happen at all as the economy contracts in the face of hydrocarbon depletion.
This article as so many BASIC TRUTHS in it, that it ought to be read at least times so that some of those truths can sink in…
“Modern Christians have abdicated their responsibility to know Truth.”
True nuff, Mike.
But Christians in America worry more about filling pews than what’s in the pews.
From the 80s-90s they thought Mexicans would save them, Nope.
From more lately, they’ve dropped the biggest (in history) Bible factory in SW China. Thanks for the work, fellas, from us old factory hands.
They muffed chances that are impossible to enumerate. Boomer girls had less babies, which would have led to an uncluttered 21st Century startup. Instead, they imported Mexicans (Christian after all) and gave us the most cluttered USA since Cortez slaughtered the Aztecs.
They had their chance. 20 years wasted wringing their hands over abortion. Then betraying their own, who were breeding lightly. They were scum in the 80s and they are scum now.
I’m not qualified to opine about the author’s ideas on space travel, but I appreciate his Earth-first, fight-not-flight attitude very much.
Aside from the errors this author makes about fossil fuels, his assertion that space exploration is really white flight sounds cute but is absolutely meaningless. Man isn’t going to explore space until white countries solve their racial and political problems. One thing that might motivate people to get on board with that agenda is precisely because it is the only way that we will invent and explore our way to technological utopia.
He’s totally correct in his comments on oil and natgas. We are very obviously running out of the stuff now. Go review Art Berman’s analyses of the fracking plays. The problems are not a far off concern. We are going to have serious energy supply problems inside 10 years. We are going to have to change how we live, and most Americans will not like it one bit.
Greg,
What do you mean about fossil fuels?
I am familiar with the idea that the supply may be almost unlimited, that hydrocarbons exist above the mantle and below the crust, but if it is true, replenishment will not be happening any time soon.
It is interesting that a USA minority-woman astronaut drilled a hole in a Soyuz. Whether that is real or not, I do not know. Somebody did, however, drill a hole, and the current woman is far and away the most likely candidate.
So, if spaaace is the place, where to go?
On the Moon (sure, with low grav. a great base), so a few people living in caves or tunnels.
Mars, not much better, if there were some means to free the oxygen in the dirt, it would take hundreds of years, and escape into space in any case, so pointless. Putative people there would still be living in caves and tunnels, because of the radiation load.
Venus, sure, there may be a way to transform it, separate the oxygen from the CO2, turn the carbon and sulphur from the sulphuric acid into rocks, and the remaining combination into free water and oxygen, but it would take many lifetimes. Even after that, geology is unknown, atmos. pressure very high.
Not that any person has been there, or could.
The former USSR’s Venera programme is very interesting, I am sorry that I do not have the link at hand, but they got grainy videos and photos of the surface, audio of the weather, samples of the atmosphere, very impressive.
Energy and materials budgets?
Relying on crap such as wormholes?
Where is there to go in the solar system?
I had my hair cut today, an old lady barber and hairdresser, oddly enough, when I commented about the crappy weather for the last two weeks, without my prompting, she blamed it on commercial space flight and plans for it, said the Earth must be angry about it.
Good conversation followed, partly connected on my side, to this thread.
This article is excellent. I agree with all of it. (Or nearly all of it. I don’t really believe Christianity is to blame, although there are some parallels I suppose, but the issues are really the fault of whites and whites should carry the blame.)
This is one of those subjects that nobody wants to deal with, because so many whites enjoy the thought of space travel. They enjoy the idea of exploring space and developments in technology that could facilitate that and so on. And this has been acquired through this massive diet of science fiction our people consume. I’m not saying it’s all poz and brainwashing. In fact probably the most successful and best science fiction works are creations of our own people, implicitly for our own people. It’s become part of the white collective psyche and it’s so powerful I think some of us would pick some feeble advancement in rocket propulsion over dealing with the problems on Earth.
Sure it’s scientifically interesting, and it fires the imagination, but it’s just a huge distraction taking us into a void, we might as well be fantasizing about being characters in Game of Thrones, and I applaud this article for pointing that out.
The answers are here on Earth.
In theory yes, it is possible to send a manned mission to Mars in the foreseeable future, but it’s difficult to see how that would change anything substantial about our scientific understanding of Mars or space travel or advance our cause as a people. And the whole thing will be turned into one giant leap for diversity with some hideous mulatto female being the first to set foot there, and we will be told ‘what a great achievement for humanity this is’, even if it was really a great achievement for whites.
Forget space. It’s as good as dead.
I agree. Paul McAuley did a series of very good short stories in the Brit magazine Interzone in the nineties.
The culmination was the novel Fairyland. Since then, seems only to have written ‘hard SF’ and fantasy (the latter seems to be where the money is now). Some readable, some not. I do not find the ‘fantasy’ readable.
One background theme in Fairyland that really stuck in my mind is the fictional mission to Mars, culminating in the woman astronaut making her lame announcement after landing and walking out of the space ship, it is on television in a pub, but nobody cares or notices. Very nicely written scene.
Meanwhile, IRL, nobody has much of an idea of how to conduct such a mission over twenty years later.
…and NASA unleashes a crazy SJW on the ISS. Sure, that is the way to go further.
Eugene,
I like your article. ‘Fracking’ in itself is an obscenity, poisoning aquifers, causing earthquakes at times, in places wher there were none before. Transpose the ‘ra’ of fracking to a ‘u’ for an accurate idea of the coinage of the word, and the mentality of the technique.
I saw a couple of recent essays saying that humanity is past its peak for now, we are no longer capable of any more than maintaining a presence in low Earth orbit.
Severe overpopulation of near-beasts certainly does not help, cut all aid to overpopulators, except perhaps some disaster relief at times. Moslems, Indians, Africans, pah. It may be non-Christian, but I am never displeased to hear of an invasion boat sinking with loss of life, as my Celt ancestors would naturally have been at the sight of a Viking boat on a raid being sunk by a freak wave or storm.
The European navies should use torpedoes, just to set an example.
Not to comparing the two precisely, the Vikings had great art in sea-craft, navigation, metalwork, language, and became part of, in particular, Scots and Irish culture. I know. They didn’t ride on polypropylene rafts and rely on traitors to do a taxi run for for them.
As for ‘space is the place’, I read a very good short short story some years ago, it was in F and SF, the earthlings in space found a planet that is spectroscoscipally Earth-like.
If you want to track it down, and not read my spoilers, I think homo benthos and Fantasy and Science Fiction would work as search terms.
The account below is linear, but the author does it better, non-linear.
Trouble is, they find that it is not Earth-like at all in terms of meteor bomdardmements. So, they move into a a littoral existence, using the abundant supply of genetic info, and techniques, they were carrying on their spaceship, that was relying on the usual tropes of hibernation, etc..
The meteor bombardments are still too much, so they try genetic eng., to make a half-fish form.
It still does not protect them enough. So they try homo benthos, but the main protagonist sees his best friend so depressed that she swims into shallower waters to make herself explode. He is also disgusted at his own appearance and existence.
The writer, I am pretty sure, is basically extreme left, but sure managed to transcend that in, at least, that story.
Good luck getting funding for a space program in a democracy where whites are a minority. Not only that, your space ships will be built with help of non-white workers. Houston, we are going to have a problem.
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