Counter-Currents
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Translations: French, German, Slovak, Spanish
Michel Houellebecq
Submission: A Novel
Trans. Lorin Stein
London: Heinemann, 2015
Michel Houellebecq is one of the finest novelists living today. His most recent novel, Submission, is now out in English. It confirms my long-held suspicion that Houellebecq is a man of the Right, whether or not he admits it to us, or even to himself.
Houellebecq has long been one of the most savage critics of liberal decadence and cant. But Submission reveals that he is also a student of far Right literature, showing a broad familiarity with demographics, eugenics, Traditionalism, European nationalism, distributism, biological race and sex differences, Identitarianism (which he calls “Indigenous Europeanism” in the book), and the critics of Islam.
Submission (a translation of “Islam”) tells of a Muslim takeover in France in 2022. The National Front and a fictional Muslim Brotherhood party make it into the runoff in the French national election. On election day, they are neck and neck. Ballot boxes are stolen, invalidating the entire vote. Another vote is scheduled for the following Sunday, but in the meantime, the conservative and Socialist parties join the Muslims in a “Republican Front” to keep Marine Le Pen out of power. Once installed, the Muslim Brotherhood institutes sweeping educational, economic, and foreign policy reforms designed to make Muslim hegemony permanent. Belgium is the next to fall, but all of Europe is doomed due to the political and economic integration of the Muslim world into the European Union.
Houellebecq’s scenario is highly unlikely, at least in the time-frame he specifies. But lack of realism does not prevent science fiction from being an instructive mirror for modern society, and the same is true of Submission, which is less about Islam than about the weaknesses of modern France — and of its would-be defenders on the radical Right — that make them susceptible to a Muslim takeover. Although millions will read this book, I believe that its chosen audience are the intellectuals and activists of the nationalist Right. Houellebecq wants us to succeed. He wants us to save Western civilization. But he does not think we are quite up to the task, so he offers some sage advice.
The End of Democracy
The first lesson of Submission concerns the political process. The Left and the center-Right are both committed to dissolving France into Europe and then into global “humanity.” They are more opposed to French nationalism than to Islam, even though Islam represents a repudiation of their liberal and Republican values. They hate the National Front, and the nation it represents, more than they love themselves and their values. Therefore, out of suicidal spite, they would be willing to put France under a Muslim regime.
But wouldn’t the Left and center-Right wake up eventually and resist as the Muslims began to implement their program? Houellebecq thinks not. The Left would be unable to protest because Islam is a sacred non-white, non-European “other,” and the Right would be unable to protest because they are bourgeois cowards who follow the lead of the Left. The fact that both groups fear Muslim violence does not help either. (None of them fear Right-wing violence, however.)
But if liberal democracy is a sordid, pusillanimous sham which is willing to deliver the nation and itself to destruction, then why is the National Front seemingly committed to democratic legitimacy? Putting a Muslim party in power is not politics as usual, in which power circulates between different branches of the same elite. It is the emergence of a new elite with a radical revolutionary agenda. Islam aims at irreversible change, hence it punishes apostasy with death. It is not just a flavor of liberal democracy that can be installed by a minor tantrum of the voters and then reversed on whim at the next election.
If this is how democracy ends, then why is the Right unwilling to end democracy in order to save the nation? Houellebecq sets up a scenario in which the only salvation of France would be a Right-wing revolution or military coup, followed by both massive ethnic cleansing and an épuration of the ruling classes, including “the soixante-huitards, those progressive mummified corpses — extinct in the wider world — who managed to hang on in the citadels of the media, still cursing the evils of the times and the toxic atmosphere of the country” (p. 126).
It goes without saying that the Muslims are willing to kill and die to get their way, but the Right, apparently, is not. In Submission, as in Jean Raspail’s The Camp of the Saints, even the most martial and patriotic French are so rotted with humanitarian cant and cowardice that they allow their country to be destroyed rather than use force to preserve it. I refuse to believe that the French Right is quite that decadent and that Marine Le Pen or her successor would allow a great nation with a venerable tradition of revolutions, coups, and dictatorships to perish out of cuckservative good sportsmanship.
Why are young Rightists not entering the French army and police forces? Why are they not opening private security firms? If none of this had occurred to the leaders of the National Front and the Identitarians, it has now. If so, perhaps Houellebecq will some day be remembered as the Rousseau of the next (and final) French Revolution.
Post-Democratic Legitimacy
The best cover is the Hungarian translation
The next lesson of Submission concerns how to legitimate a post-democratic society. And make no mistake: even though the form of elections might be maintained, the Muslim Brotherhood would never allow itself to be voted out of power. Specifically, how would the Muslim Brotherhood neutralize its most committed enemies on the far Right, the traditionalist Catholics, the Identitarians, and the National Front? Simple: by instituting reforms that they wanted all along.
The Muslim Brotherhood is in no hurry to impose sharia law. The French may not fight for nation and freedom, but they will fight for alcohol and cigarettes. Christians and Jews will not be persecuted. The Muslims realize that the future belongs to the population that has more children and passes on their values to them. The native French population is shrinking. In a few generations, they will be virtually extinct, and those who remain will be powerless to resist sharia law. So all the Muslim Brotherhood has to do is wait.
In the meantime, they are content to reform the educational system, one of the bastions of the Left. Muslims are given the option of a completely Muslim education. Co-education is abolished. Female teachers are pensioned off. Schooling is mandatory until only the age of 12. Vocational training and apprenticeships are encouraged. Higher education is privatized. The public universities are Islamized with huge influxes of petrodollars. Non-Muslim male faculty and all female faculty are given early retirements with full pensions.
In the economic realm, the Muslim Brotherhood eliminates unemployment by giving incentives to women to leave the workplace and return to family life. Small, family-owned businesses are encouraged through adopting Catholic distributist policies. Welfare spending is slashed dramatically, forcing people to work in good times and to depend on their families and religious communities in hard times.
In the social realm, the patriarchal family is reestablished as the norm. Women are encouraged to choose families over careers. Sexual modesty in dress, behavior, advertising, and popular culture is rapidly adopted. Oh, and Muslim men are allowed up to four wives.
Crime, which is mostly Muslim crime to begin with, plummets, perhaps because they feel that France is now their country and they no longer wish to trash it.
Now, dear reader, ask yourself: wouldn’t you wallow in Schadenfreude to see the Leftist academics, feminists, and welfare scroungers get theirs? Wouldn’t you rejoice at such pro-family reforms? And that’s the problem.
In the long run, under Muslim rule, France will disappear, and the only force that could prevent it is the far Right. But the far Right, like every other group, has a majority of short-sighted people and a minority of far-sighted ones. The far-sighted can only mobilize the short-sighted based on their present discontents. Drain the sources of discontent, and the far-Right constituency will grow complacent. And without followers, the leadership will be powerless.
The far Right is also a coalition of people with varying complaints. Only a minority are true racial nationalists who realize that to be French, one must be white. A black can be a French citizen, speak French, eat French food, and be a Roman Catholic. Thus citizenship, language, culture, and religion are not essential to being French. But whiteness is.
Many Rightists do not see this, however. They are broad-brush anti-modernists and reactionaries; traditionalists with a large or small “T”; anti-feminists, masculinists, and “Men Going their Own Way”; or devotees of dead or dying religions and deposed dynasties. Such vague and anachronistic yearnings will never be fully satisfied anyway. There will never be another king Clovis, who will re-Christianize France. So many of these people would be quite happy to live under a moderate Muslim regime which is traditional, patriarchal, hierarchical, and appeals to transcendent values.
After all, we have ample evidence of impotent Rightists being willing to accept vague approximations to their values and submerge their reservations, as long as the approximation is better organized and more active than the Right, which isn’t hard. Thus in America, I have seen actual National Socialists converted into fervent enthusiasts for Ron Paul, Vladimir Putin, Alexander Dugin, Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, Traditionalism — anything, really, as long as it appears to be a sizable and well-organized opposition to the existing establishment. You know very well what such weak reeds would do when confronted with an actual Muslim regime. After all, opposing Islam would be “anti-traditional.”
There are many lessons for White Nationalists here. First, never let a Muslim regime come to power. Instead, prevent that — and gain power for ourselves — by any means necessary. Second, we must work relentlessly to focus our people on the paramount importance of race and not to fall for approximations and half-measures. Third, once we have power, we should not be in any hurry. All we need to do is hold onto power — which means postponing more radical reforms for a later date — and be content to set social processes in motion that will in the long-term lead to the sort of society we want. Focus on education and the family. Be kind to workers and small businessmen. Encourage the white population to grow and the non-white population to emigrate. Deliver prosperity, security, and peace to our constituents. And then wait.
The Jewish Question
Now you may be wondering where the Jews fit into this. As Guillaume Durocher points out, Houellebecq hints at the importance of Jewish power, but in his narrative, Jews have no agency whatsoever. They simply slouch off to Jerusalem when the Muslim Brotherhood comes to power. In France today, however, Jews are a formidable political force, and Muslims are far weaker than their numbers would predict. Indeed, Jews have played a dominant role in encouraging Muslim immigration and empowerment, and in stigmatizing French resistance. Perhaps Houellebecq thinks that Islam will turn out to be another golem that turns on its Jewish masters. Maybe he wishes to focus specifically on the susceptibility of the French to Muslim domination. Or perhaps he thinks that Jews can be persuaded to change sides, which strikes me as extremely naive.
Surrender and Collaboration
Michel Houellebecq
The next lesson of Submission concerns the psychology of surrender and collaboration. The main character of Submission is François, a 44-year-old professor of 19-century French literature in Paris. (He is a specialist on Joris-Karl Huysmans.) François is an only child (of course), the offspring of two selfish baby-boomers (divorced, of course) of the type that Houellebecq so masterfully skewers in his other books. He has had no contact with his parents in years, and he learns of their deaths only after the fact.
François is obsessed with sex (of course, since this is a Houellebecq novel). He has never married (of course). Instead, he has a series of transient relationships with young female students, who always seem to be the ones who break it off (of course), perhaps to show how strong they are.
François’ intellectual life is as empty as his personal one. The author of a brilliant dissertation, he has published one book, been promoted to full Professor, and now whiles away his time with petty academic politics.
Although a student of French literature, François knows very little about France. He seems utterly cut off from any sense of national identity. Left to his own devices, he eats nothing but Oriental, Middle Eastern, and Indian food, generally of the frozen or take-out varieties. (Let that sink in for a minute. How could any self-respecting Frenchman eat shwarma?) He lives in Paris’ Chinatown. He envies his Jewish soon-to-be-ex-girlfriend’s tribal identity, ruefully remarking that, “There is no Israel for me.” (Yes, but who made it so?)
François is also a chain-smoker and a massive alcoholic, although these hardly distinguish him from other European men today.
Desperately unhappy, François tries to follow Huysmans’ path into the Catholic Church, hoping it will provide a ready-made, all-encompassing meaning for his life. But it does not take. At one shrine, he has a quasi-mystical experience, but he interprets it as hypoglycemia. On another attempt, at a monastery, he flees after three days from the cold, discipline, deprivation, and forced sociability back to his solitude, cynicism, and cigarettes. Christianity demands sincere commitment, which François cannot give, and it offers very few creature comforts, which he cannot give up.
Naturally, François’ utter self-absorption goes along with political passivity. He barely took notice of politics until his country was torn away from him, and then he did absolutely nothing to fight it. When he hears of the possibility of a civil war, he wonders only if the deluge can be postponed till after his death. The very idea of fighting or dying for France would never have crossed his mind. But men who care about nothing higher than comfort and security, no matter how clever and civilized they may be, are no match for men who are willing to kill or die for higher values, no matter how stupid and primitive they may be.
After the Muslim takeover, François is forced into early retirement at full pension. But then he is slowly reeled back in by Robert Rediger, the Belgian-born convert to Islam who is put in charge of the educational system. First, at Rediger’s instigation, François is invited to edit an edition of Huysmans for the prestigious French publisher Pléiade. Then Rediger invites him to a reception, where they meet. At the reception, Redinger invites François to his home for a conversation, where Rediger reveals that he is recruiting distinguished scholars from the old system for the new Islamic University of Paris-Sorbonne. All François need do is convert to Islam, which he does.
Why does François convert to Islam rather than Catholicism? One reason is that Christianity is a feminine religion that inspires contempt, and Islam is a masculine religion that inspires admiration. But the main reason seems to be the fringe benefits. Christianity offered him swooning and self-denial. Islam offered him self-assertion and material advancement: a job at the Sorbonne, a huge salary, a house in a fashionable part of Paris, and most importantly, a cure for his sexual frustration and loneliness. Rediger offers him three wives, for starters: young, nubile, submissive Muslim girls to share his bed and bear his children.
Why does Houellebecq center his narrative on an academic? Because this novel is a thought experiment. Academia is the stronghold of the Left, which is still the strongest metapolitical force in our society, and if Islam can break its resistance, it can break anything else. Houellebecq realizes that academic males are pretty much all sexually frustrated wimps, dorks, and slobs: beta males oppressed by strong womyn in both their professional and personal lives. He believes they would welcome a regime that forces modesty in dress and advertisements, so they are not constantly tormented with sexual thoughts; a regime that restores male dominance in the workplace and bedroom; a regime that suppresses feminism and encourages female submission. Being married to four modern Western women sounds like hell on earth, but Islam might make polygamy quite workable. Houellebecq supports something I have long suspected: fundamentalist religions appeal to beta males as a way of controlling women. (“Jesus wants you to make me a sandwich, dear.”)
Polygamy, of course, is not the white way. But Rightists need to take note. Feminism is probably the greatest source of misery for men, women, and especially children today. White Nationalism is all about restoring the biological integrity of our race. That means not just creating homogeneously white living spaces for the reproduction and rearing of our kind, but also restoring traditional (and biological) sex roles: men as protectors and providers, women as mothers and nurturers. If we can promise to restore stable and loving families and homogeneous, high-trust communities, we can drain the swamps in which Leftists breed. After all, how many Leftists do you know who are lonely, dysfunctional, socially alienated products of broken families and communities?
Beware the Traditionalists
The most interesting character in Submission is Robert Rediger, the Education then Foreign Minister of the new regime. He is a master of persuasion who knows that academics suffer above all from sexual frustration and unrequited vanity. He is a master of religious apologetic, meaning that he is an exceedingly clever liar. He claims that the Koran is a great poem of praise for creation, when it is closer to gangsta rap both as poetry and edification. He claims that polygamy is eugenic, which it might be if Muslims didn’t marry blacks and their own first cousins.
Rediger is a large, masculine man, which makes him an unusual academic. But this comes as no surprise when we learn his history. As a young man in Belgium, Rediger was an ardent Right-wing nationalist. But he was never a racist or fascist, mind you. Just a broad-brush reactionary anti-modernist who wrote a dissertation on Nietzsche and René Guénon, anti-modernist thinkers with radically incompatible premises. This does not, however, prevent Rediger from shifting from one perspective to another whenever it suits him. Nietzsche destroyed Christianity for Rediger, and Guénon offered him a way into Islam, a religion he sees as more compatible with masculine and vitalist impulses.
The lesson here is obvious: if racial integrity is not paramount, then Traditionalism is a vector of Islamization. A demythologization of Traditionalism has long been on my agenda, and Houellebecq has convinced me to step up the timetable. Such an argument has two prongs. First, as I argued in my review of Jan Assmann’s Moses the Egyptian, the Traditionalist thesis of the transcendent unity of religions is actually heretical according to the Abrahamic faiths, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, which reject all other religions as false. Second, the Traditionalists are well aware of this problem. Thus their assertion that the Abrahamic faiths are compatible with Traditionalism is merely an attempt to trick their adherents into tolerating esoteric paganism. (Arguing this thesis would require a reading of Ibn Tufayl’s Hayy Ibn Yaqzan
There is no Allah, and Muhammad was not his prophet. Therefore, whatever power Islam possesses is grounded in nature. If there is an overall lesson to Submission, it is that if our civilization falls out of harmony with nature and ceases to pass on its genes and values, it will be replaced by a civilization — no matter how backward and primitive — that is capable of doing so. And European man will disappear in a tide of fast-breeding, savage Sand People.
The Left and center-Right are deferential to Islam because they are decadent and devitalized. They sense its greater vitality, including its potential for violence. These people want to be subjugated, because no tyranny is worse than the fate of the atomized individual floating in the void of liberal, consumerist modernity. Liberal democracy and capitalism supply every human need, except to believe, belong, and obey. If our race is to be saved, then White Nationalists need to bring our societies back into harmony with nature. Whites must be forced to submit to our own nature, or we will end up submitting to aliens. And to do that, White Nationalists need to become an even more formidably vital — and intimidating — force than Islam. Clearly we’ve got work to do.
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That Hungarian cover is really excellent. Drives home the point that Islam is all-encompassing political philosophy, not a simple cookie cutter religion that can be incorporated into a multicultural/plural society. It seeks dominion and when it achieves it, its first objective anywhere is iconoclasm. Not even our civilization’s art would be safe in the event of our demise; it is haram.
‘After all, opposing Islam would be “anti-traditional.”’
This is really a straw-man argument, since even Guenon held that a small-t tradition should be rooted in the cultural and ethnic traditions of the people who adopt it. Islam has never been a part of the traditions of France (or anywhere else in northern Europe), so there’s no reason why a traditionalist would be in favor of the Islamization of France. Although Guenon himself became a Muslim there is no indication that he ever encouraged others to do so, and I have yet to hear any traditionalist writer advocate for or defend the Islamization of Europe. And I do know of some Muslim traditionalists who actively oppose immigration, such as the French convert and writer Albert Ali, who has called for French Muslims to support the National Front.
Whether the traditionalist view that the Abrahamic religions can be part of the “transcendental unity of religions” with any validity is another, more legitimate issue in my view.
“We believe that denigrating Islam in the neocon “Clash of Civilizations” manner is counter-traditional and geopolitically counter-productive.” — Matt Parrott
I never knew that the TYN qualify as actual traditionalists – they give little indication of actually having understood even the basics of it.
That being said, I agree with that statement in that I think those who attack Islam on the level of a religion or a civilization rather than through the actual causes of and forces behind immigration – which have little to do with anything stemming from the Islamic world and everything to do with the current state of our own civilization – are seriously misguided and serving our opponents more than us.
I find Islam morally, theologically and aesthetically repulsive, but perhaps you are right that attacking it for these reasons plays into the hands of the opposition. It would be illuminating to see traditionalists’ response to criticism of Islam for its anti-racialism then. Though traditionalists would probably consider that fair game, such criticism attacks the civilizational ‘unity’ that the traditionalist mind conceives of as ‘Islam,’ which the traditionalist finds unsettling. I think at that point many a traditionalist would realize (or confess) that he values authority more than he values race, and that it was only the coincidental historical association between racial homogeneity and traditional political authority that inspired any loyalty to race in him in the first place.
This is a brilliant essay, and I thank Greg for this analysis. Many of the enemies of White racial survival are those some think are friends: traditionalists (for the reasons outlined here), manosphere hedonists (Francois as a potential “game” blogger), “movement” activists who are single-issue cranks or who slavishly worship the “man on the white horse” (now apparently including Orban as well as Paul and Putin, and the varied mainstreamers and the cult of compromise. Last but not least, the Christian traditionalists, who want to exploit pro-White activism in an instrumental manner to attempt to revive a feminine, dying religion, a religion of sacrifice and surrender.
“A demythologization of Traditionalism has long been on my agenda…” That’s great, but it needs to include Devi and Evola, if it is to be comprehensive.
“if racial integrity is not paramount, then Traditionalism is a vector of Islamization. A demythologization of Traditionalism has long been on my agenda, and Houellebecq has convinced me to step up the timetable.”
A challenge to traditionalism, from the right! This is definitely necessary and very exciting. Looking forward to more on this topic.
The need to beat Islam at its own game– to “become an even more formidably vital — and intimidating — force than Islam” — I think underscores the value of real world interaction on our part.
Lawrence Murray: “Islam is all-encompassing political philosophy, not a simple cookie cutter religion that can be incorporated into a multicultural/plural society. It seeks dominion”
The proper response to this is an all encompassing political philosophy which, unlike mere traditionalism, embraces the full spectrum of European spirituality, past, present, and future. Matt Parrott’s Techno-Traditionalism sounded like it might begin to address this issue, but it didn’t even scratch the surface. Much more is needed.
Dear Mr Johnson.
I find your essays around interesting books you have read a rather trying affair. I must strengthen myself and try to avoid counter-currents more in the future. You see, every time you recommend me a book, I have a tendency to go out and purchase it. And it turns out to be a rather devastating attack on my allowances in the long run. Will you have mercy on a poor soul?
Hereby bought! Looking forward to reading it. And please accept my rather longwinded expression of gratitude.
I also would love to see this “demythologisation of traditionalism.”
As a huge fan of Houellebecq (I’ve read all his novels but this one, and was switched on to Lovecraft by his essay), I’m interested to discover that he has moved with the times and published a novel that threatens to dovetail with racial nationalism–something I never thought he would do.
An incisive and timely essay indeed.
For many of the points mentioned I have shall we say naturally and recently come to.
Greg: “Houellebecq supports something I have long suspected: fundamentalist religions appeal to beta males as a way of controlling women. (“Jesus wants you to make me a sandwich, dear.”)”
This is an interesting observation and one that helps explain the seeming anomaly of sexual hedonist “game” promoters being supporters of traditional Christianity. On the surface it seems unusual that “our ancestors’ religion” is being promoted by folks who also write:
“damn, i’m torn. do i want a thriving society or easier access to sex? yeeeeah… i’ll take the latter and leave the self-sacrifice required of the former for the anti-poolside chumps”
On the other hand, the Christians and gamesters have a point: without societal controls, the masses will behave badly. including hypergamous women spurning beta dads for alpha cads. It is not sufficient to denounce Christianity and other traditionalisms. We need to be ready with an alternative.
This is why we must remember that national socialism is not just a German political party, but a movement, a worldview, which promotes the collective good based on the wisdom of nature, including human nature. The history of human nature tells us that beta males are the backbone of society, and you must give them a stake in that society to have social cohesion and order. That means monogamy and stable male-female pair bonding; to put in crudely: “dem betas need to get laid.”
Sound national socialist politics must incorporate the sexual marketplace and a call to restore a more “paterfamilias” mindset in society.
Yes indeed. If we do not restore the monogamous patriarchal family, the Muslims will end up imposing the polygamous patriarchal family.
” whatever power Islam possesses is grounded in nature. If there is an overall lesson to Submission, it is that if our civilization falls out of harmony with nature and ceases to pass on its genes and values, it will be replaced by a civilization — no matter how backward and primitive — that is capable of doing so”
Believe it or not, the historical response of Christians to Islam is that the latter is materialistic and libertine — all those wives, for instance, and the famous 57 or whatever virgins in Paradise.
Traditionalists like Schuon, writing in the 50s, had to answer the same arguments, and defended Islam as a moderate, rational accommodation to human frailty, unlike the unrealistic, monkish, ascetic, hellfire morality imposed by Christians.
When Europe was an actual Christian society, Islam represented reason and rationality, and was a favorite of atheists and freethinkers (Shelley, Byron, Goethe). Islam and reason? Sure, Islam absorbed and continued Greek science, which the Church abhorred, and its theology is admirably simple compared to the angels dancing on pins in the West. Europeans fled serfdom and convents to sign up with Muslim pirates, and even kidnapped nobles chose conversion rather than return to dark, dirty, stinking, repressed Europe.
The point is, there’s no sense in talking about “Islam” or “Christianity.” What is a “Christian” society? Calvin’s Geneva, or Borgia Florence? The same with Islam. As I have pounded away at in several essays on this site, and in my review of James Neill’s book (an Amazon Kindle), ACTUAL Islamic societies have been more natural, and thus freer, than most Christian societies, which enforce absurd regulations, especially in the sexual realm.
What skews this debate today is “Moslem Fundamentalism,’ which, as John Morgan hints above, is more a product of Western meddling than actual Islamic practices.
According to Huston Smith, who was a member of Schuon’s super-secret Sufi group, the Five Pillars of Islam were just so much chin music. Prayers 5 times a day too hard? Don’t sweat it. Pilgrimage? Are you nuts? Oh, and have a beer, no problem. It’s all symbolic, you know? Now that’s a religion I can get behind: all the smugness of being “one of the spiritual elite” but no actual tasks. Sweet!
The scenario Houllebecq presents parallels what happened in Spain; contrary to modern myths, the Moors did not “invade Spain to impose Islam;” Spain had already been invaded by Christian Visigoths, who enforced puritanical Christian morals on the native population, who turned to the Moors as liberators, bringing science, divorce, and bathing.
The Semites invaded Europe long ago and “distorted” our culture to produce both flagellating psychosis and the Renaissance. Why should we expect Islam to be any different? Of course, we have to keep the nutjobs out. The best way to do that is the understand what they are: nutjobs no different than our own, not “Islam.”
Yes, I think that’s a big problem with the counter-jihad approach – they are basically appointing the Sunni extremists as the spokesmen for the entire religion, which is like having the worst sort of fundamentalists and evangelicals as the spokesmen for all of Christianity. Not to mention the fact that the Islamists have only gotten as far they have as a result of massive assistance from the US and its NATO allies, as well as that of US-allied regimes like the Saudis and Pakistan. Large numbers of outsiders don’t belong in Europe regardless of their religion, but blaming Islam for it is a distraction from the real problems at hand.
“…nutjobs no different to our own.”
Really?
You are opposed to essentialising Islam at a time when it is colonising Europe? Maybe those unsophisticated Pegida marchers should be holding “anti-nutjob” rallies instead? Maybe they’d get a better turnout After all, no one like nutjobs, after all, and it wouldn’t be in violation of hatespeech laws.
I haven’t read this book yet, but the premise to me seems clearly flawed. A muslim majority hardly means that the imposition of Sharia law is a straightforward matter. I’m aware of only two examples in the entire muslim world where Sharia is the law of the land (three, if we add ISIL); elsewhere, Islamist parties find themselves heavily outnumbered at the voting booth. Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia all allow Islamist parties to contest elections; none are ruled by Islamists. In 2013 in Egypt, mass protests (virtually amounting to a revolution) saw Islamists removed from power. The Jewish media often call Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development Party ‘Islamist’, but if it is, then one look at the copious liberal ‘decadence’ on display in Turkish music, cinema and television should be sufficient demonstration of how utterly ineffectual it is.
Also, “Christianity demands sincere commitment”? Oh please. It’s the easiest thing in the world to be a Christian: just claim you believe and then live your life as you see fit. Seriously, who is going to stop you? As long as you’re getting something out of it, that’s all that matters. Why would someone with no use for religion want to go to church? For the community, duh. Based on Greg’s review, it seems to me the novel, by having the protagonist throw in the towel for purely religious dissatisfaction, misses the opportunity to make this link clear. In reality, an atomized Frenchman – indeed, any European – has a thousand good non-religious reasons for re-establishing a sense of community by attending church, for there lie the historical-cultural roots of millions of others like himself; he can begin there and worry later about crafting it into something perhaps more useful. This whole atheists-for-Jesus ethic may strike some as supremely cynical, but the church exploited Europeans for its own ends for centuries – isn’t it time the tables were turned?
If the Muslims become a majority in France, Sharia law will be imposed. The Muslims will resort to violence to make it come about. The white christians of France have been emasculated and demoralized by the politicians and the christian clergy. The politicians and the clerics will continue to betray the white majority unto death, that is what the jews pay them for.
I read the book since my last post. I was going to read a few pages before going to bed, but I was so riveted I stayed up late and then woke up early and finished it.
The English translation constantly uses “nativist” and “nativist organization” which me made curious what the original French terms were. I checked out a French edition and saw that Houellebecq generally used “identitaire” and “mouvement identitaire,” which in my opinion differ significantly in purport from “nativist” and are more faithful to the movement’s own view of itself – but I guess accurately conveying that would too much to expect from a New Yorker named Lorin Stein.
All in all, I found it a thought-provoking read, but it was more of a meditation than a novel, which in that sense made it less enjoyable. I also thought it had considerable shortcomings as a work of political prognostication. It seemed to me that the moment Ben Abbes was elected – is it just me or is Houellebecq’s enthusiasm for him (or his ideas) decidedly genuine? – all opposition simply melted away and that was all she wrote. Come off it, does anyone here think that the left/liberal/Jewish media establishment is going to go that gently into the good night? The novel barely touches on the media role in the whole debacle expect to portray journalists as buffoons, rather than the orchestrators they really are. (Though the depiction of David Pujadas as a slick careerist seemed on the money, based on what little I know of him.) And what about the NF who, according to the novel, came within a hair’s breadth of winning the election, and even before the election were shooting it out with muslims – they really take it all sitting down? That rings hollow.
I really don’t get why liberals had a problem with this book given it was almost a paean to Islam in my view. Even accounting for a possibly not fully reliable narrator, Houellebecq’s enthusiasm for Islam seemed so genuine to me that it has to be said he crossed into complete dishonesty in his representations of Islam.
It would be one thing if his only point was, in effect, that the baby boomer intellectual elite (using the term loosely) can bought off easily enough with money and pussy by Muslims or anyone else that has them to offer. It wasn’t his only point; he seems to present Islam as the only rational alternative to liberal exhaustion. Amid the apologetics for Dhimmitude, he didn’t give us a glimpse of the other side of that coin: organized rape gangs on the loose, whites and Christians being attacked and murdered so that rich Muslims can take teenaged white girls for brides, and High Gothic cathedral’s destroyed or converted into mosques by Muslims. We don’t even get a speculative glimpse of life in France under the National Front.
There are many good things about the book; the pollyanna view of Islam is not one of them.
Exactly. The so called appeal of Islam, representing a reversion to theocracy and patriarchy may well appeal to weak-minded intellectuals and classic right wingers. But for nationalists of the Alt-Left persuasion, the whole deal just sounds like a lose-lose proposition. I for one was glad to finish this book.
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I was, at first, angry when I finished the book.
“Is this it?!” I thought.
Then i remembered the title and smiled a little.
On an unrelated note;
is there any chance that you could upload the rest of your “The Pursuit of Happiness” series?
I kinda felt left hanging.
I have been meaning to restart that series, but the tapes require a lot of editing, and I just don’t have enough hours in the day.
Thanks for the fast answer.
I understand, keep up the good work!
I just finished reading the book.
Yes, a return to patriarchy, submissive women and a bleaching of the culture are very attractive prospects, indeed seductive prospects. During the course of the reading I was having difficulty separating my enthusiasm for these reforms and Islam itself; in other words, these lightning fast emotional calculations left no space for this change outside Quranic dogma, which is a major problem and, I believe, the primary one the author identified.
For anyone who may be interested, I ran across an editorial on the Paris shootings by Houellebecq. I found it trawling the daily propaganda sheets aimed at US middlebrows. Houellebecq takes off the gloves a bit but not nearly enough.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/21/opinion/how-frances-leaders-failed-its-people.html
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