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I bring readers of Counter-Currents an exclusive interview with William White Williams. Will is the head of the current National Alliance (NA) and has been active in the WN scene for over 40 years. He is a man who has something to say and has experienced a lot, as he mentions in his book Pocahontas Show Trial. Interviews with Will are very rare these days, and he has not given any interviews to the media for quite some time. Will sticks to the rule of not giving interviews to the mainstream media (MSM), because the MSM will only twist his answers and publish a very manipulative article about him, taking things out of context. Therefore, his interviews can only be found in alternative media outlets that seek the truth and write exclusively authentic information. If Our Cause ever prevails, it will be because we build our own independent and truthful media.
In the interview, we talked about National Alliance, William Luther Pierce, books, motivation, painting, cosmotheism, rumors, legal problems, and historical figures of WN.
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Ondrej Mann: Will, I know you’re a well-known person in WN circles. But could you introduce yourself to our readers?
Will Williams: Being well-known is not necessarily a virtue. Well-known for what? Being a celebrity? There are many well-known actors, musicians, preachers, and politicians, but what exactly are they known for? How many well-known white celebrities have worked for the best long-term interests of our race? To be known in “WN circles” would mean death to their careers.
That this interview will appear on Counter-Currents.com might indicate that I am known for being a racial dissident. I am satisfied with that label. Forty years ago, I was only known locally — where I was raised in Raleigh, North Carolina. I was known then as a designer and builder of custom homes, a developer of land, and as one who had volunteered in high school to serve in the U.S. Army rather than seek a deferment like so many of my classmates.
Rarely had I been interviewed for anything important, until I was tapped by the National Alliance Board of Directors to be Chairman of that organization. Rather than recap my life prior to that life-changing development, I’ll point any interested readers to the Alliance’s online magazine, National Vanguard (NV), where they can find an interview I did ten years ago for the UK periodical Heritage and Destiny: Will Williams: Taking the Hard Line. Other interviews, like this two-parter, can be listened to as audio programs, here: Forward Momentum: An Interview with Will Williams, part 1. I emphasized in that interview:
The National Alliance will not compromise its truth for money or popularity. The National Alliance will not compromise its goal of sustainable White living space under racially-conscious Cosmotheist control for any reason whatsoever. This has made us a target of well-funded Jewish lawfare groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, despite our relatively small size.
My simple statement of opinion in part two of the “Forward Momentum” interview says everything about how I feel about our white preservation movement: “There is no cause more worthy, more noble, or more necessary than our cause.”
Ondrej Mann: I appreciate your work for the National Alliance (NA) and also your personal work in the construction industry.
Will Williams: Many people can construct buildings. However, building a movement to preserve and advance the white race — that’s not so easy. Designing and building houses and developing land 40 years ago has served me well in building the Alliance. It helps that National Alliance founder William Luther Pierce left us such a sound foundation to build upon.
Ondrej Mann: I know you’re a painter. Do you paint mostly portraits? What famous people have you painted? Do you have a story about these portraits?
Will Williams: Around 1985 after a protracted fight with IRS goons, I gave up being a worker bee to work for our White Cause. Becoming an artist was a good cover for doing that, so that is what I decided to become. I’d always been able to draw likenesses, observing people’s faces, so besides painting representational still lifes and landscapes, I specialized in portraits and became pretty good the more I painted. Unfortunately, the more dedicated I became to the Cause the less time I had for painting, so I didn’t paint at all for about 15 years. Lately I’ve bought some brushes and paints, determined to find time to take up painting again. We have an excellent art center here in Johnson County where I’ve participated in a couple of drawing workshops. Like they say, it’s like riding a bicycle: one doesn’t forget how to paint even after not painting for years. I always enjoyed the creative burst that comes from creating a painting.
Here is a photo of a painting I’ve done recently that will be exhibited at our art center during the month of May.
Tennessee’s Oldest White Oak
It’s of a massive 300-plus-year-old White Oak here, the largest in Tennessee until we lost it during Hurricane Helene back in September. Note the Life Rune (symbol of the National Alliance) by the date of its “birth” and the Death Rune (the so-called “peace symbol”) by the date it finally blew over, or “died.” I get to explain to my neighbors the significance of those runic symbols – a white thing – that are found on Scandinavian headstones. See: The Life Rune, Its History and Significance at whitebiocentrism.com. There are numerous stories of how I was able to use art for the Cause, in one way or another — too many to list here.
Ondrej Mann: What have been the biggest problems and challenges you have faced in your life?
Will Williams: Surviving two combat tours in Vietnam as a young Green Beret infantryman in the late 1960s was a challenging experience.
Powerful organized Jewry’s vow and ongoing efforts to destroy the National Alliance are always challenging, and with the controlled media and the corrupted justice system in their corner, it is not a symmetrical fight. My book Pocahontas Show Trial explains much of that struggle. It’s essentially our truths vs. their lies.
Surviving the Chinese virus and the ventilator three years ago certainly was challenging. Since then I’ve been diagnosed with pneumonia and pulmonary fibrosis, so have been forced to slow down, delegate more and pace myself. Such are life’s challenges once one reaches his 70s.
Ondrej Mann: Is it possible you’ll die of pneumonia, pulmonary fibrosis?
Will Williams: We’re all mortal and will die from something, so, yes, that’s a possibility. I’ve lived a full, satisfying life and have tried to make every day count for our Cause, with few regrets, for at least the last nearly 40 years.
Ondrej Mann: What’s your strongest memory of William Luther Pierce?
Will Williams: I never heard Dr. Pierce lie, or even exaggerate about anything, so his truthfulness is what attracted me to him. That is memorable to me when comparing him to other leaders of our race. Other virtues of his personality are better articulated by his biographer Dr. Robert Griffin, who wrote as follows in William Pierce: A Reminiscence on National Vanguard:
Of course there was his intelligence. Simply, he was the brightest person I’ve ever been around… And there was his character. I found him to be a man of great integrity; there was the tightest fit imaginable between what he most deeply believed and the way he conducted his life. He had enormous commitment and dedication and perseverance. Day after day, year after year, decade after decade, he marched on. And he had courage. He put himself on the line. He went public; he used his own name. And he was incredibly hard working…
Griffin went on to say:
Dr. Pierce could be very shy and reticent… He was very sensitive… And last, he was joyful. Dr. Pierce loved life. He was light and cheerful… I won’t be silent or controlled by fear, not now, not after knowing him. I seek to live with the courage he demonstrated. I want, in my own unique way, to live as he lived, as an honorable white man. Dr. Pierce was an honorable white man.
I do not participate in Internet social media, unless commenting at Counter-Currents counts as a social medium. An outfit called Who’s Who in America interviewed me recently, telling me that what’s below, featuring me as a publisher and corporate chairman, was widely spread over social media by them. We’ll see. It’s not about me but what I do for our Cause.
As Chairman of the 50-year-old not-for-profit educational organization, National Alliance, Inc. (NA), since 2014, Will Williams has dedicated his career to serving kinsmen through his unselfish educational endeavors.
NA Chairman Will is Trustee of the Cosmotheist Community Church (CCC), launched also by NA Founder Dr. William L. Pierce in the 1970s. Will is President of cosmotheistchurch.org, the Alliance’s publishing arm that publishes and sells what some describe as “dissident” educational titles and CDs at its online bookstore. Will and his wife of 21 years, Svetlana, co-authored Will’s semi-biographical book Pocahontas Show Trial: the Wrongful Conviction of an “Unpopular Figure” in West Virginia, available at its online bookstore, here: Pocahontas Show Trial by William W. Williams — cosmotheistchurch.org.
Will recently published Cosmotheism: Religion of the Future by William Pierce that explains Dr. Pierce’s and NA’s unique philosophical worldview.
“What is the National Alliance?” at natall.com provides a nutshell explanation of the organization’s ideology and goals. NA’s popular online magazine nationalvanguard.org, its weekly radio show launched in 1991, American Dissident Voices; its video channel, forum and its other online sites can be followed from natall.com.
Among his duties Will writes, and mails First Class, NA’s monthly BULLETIN to its members and supporters, as well as overseeing the real-world community at NA’s National Office in Johnson County Tennessee.
Ondrej Mann: What motivates you the most for your activities?
Will Williams: Beyond spreading the same difficult racial truths that NA Founder Dr. William Pierce declared and published over his adult life, my activities are primarily focused on Alliance-building. That motivates me. NA is an exclusive membership organization, so recruiting new members and supporters and motivating current members to do the same drives me. Our recruiting booklet What is the National Alliance?, that can be read online, explains our beliefs, program and goals for those who may be interested in joining our noble cause.
Promoting and expanding Dr. Pierce’s unique worldview, Cosmotheism, and our Cosmotheist Community here in Upper East Tennessee, that includes NA’s National Office, is another focus of mine. Cosmotheism, more so than NA, will be Dr. Pierce’s lasting legacy. Again, rather than explaining what Cosmotheism is in this brief interview, readers can put ‘cosmotheism’ in the nationalvanguard.org search block and dozens of articles will come up, including one of my favorites by its founder from nearly 50 years ago: Cosmotheism: Wave of the Future.
Dr. Pierce did not “invent” Cosmotheism, but as a scientist, a physicist, he adapted it as a form of Pantheism for our race as the logical alternative belief system to Semitic Christianity, saying in a speech 50 years ago:
In the 18th and 19th centuries there was an enormous outpouring of Cosmotheist feeling. Cosmotheism, or at least one aspect of Cosmotheism, was the underlying idea of the entire Romantic movement in art and literature, from Alexander Pope to Joseph Turner and William Wordsworth. And Cosmotheism is the underlying idea of 20th century science. Today, more and more thinkers, scientific thinkers in particular, are coming to understand that fact and also to give explicit expression to that understanding. I pointed out to you in earlier meetings some of the specifically Cosmotheist statements of some of the medieval thinkers and also some of the more modern philosophers: Hegel, Fichte, and others. The more one looks into the matter, the clearer becomes this Cosmotheist thread running through the spiritual and intellectual history of our race. Every week I run across more and more examples… I quote just a part of a longer statement by [novelist] D.H. Lawrence: ‘We and the cosmos are one. The cosmos is a vast living body, of which we are still parts. The sun is a great heart whose tremors run through our smallest veins. The moon is a great gleaming nerve-center from which we quiver forever… Now all this is literally true, as men knew in the great past, and as they will know again.’
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I’ll be looking forward to Part 2 of this most interesting interview. I’m glad to be on the same side as both of you gentlemen.
Thank you, it was an honor to conduct this interview. The second part will be published soon. And then our loyal readers can look forward to several more film reviews.
I’m also looking forward to reading Part II, after which I may have some ideas for increased membership in pro-white American nationalist groups. For 5 years now, I’ve been highly vested in trying to determine what’s most important for the triumph of White heritage Americans long-term. Of course, the #1 priority is to wake folks (top priority: waking Whites) to the never ending creep of increasing Zionism/worldwide Jewish communism.
In my humble opinion, it will not be possible to do anything of substance if all those who admit to having been, at one point, inspired by Christianity, are abruptly & distainfully written off. It’s important to keep morale up, to encourage people to keep having children, and to not shame folks because of the way they arrived at the solution White nationalism.
I’m grateful that Counter-Currents seems to be a neutral turf to exchange ideas. I’ve been dismissed many places sometimes for not being quick enough, & sometimes for being to quick, to criticize Christianity. I have personally witnessed Mormons stand-up to Boy Scouts of America & announce that allowing openly homo leaders was the last straw and that they (at the time, 30% of the entire Boy Scouts of America membership) were quitting BSA immediately to start their own, 100% non Fag-led, scout groups.
Likewise, I’ve seen elderly Catholic nuns say they will close up an orphanage before allowing homos (very often victims of child sex abuse themselves) to adopt babies. They refused to cower to threats by Antifa.
I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a group of agnostics, atheists, or cosmos come together to fight degeneracy in this same strong way.
Agree with you. Christianity is simply too strong a social force to alienate. Less intelligent people need comfort in their lives. Most of us don’t feel we are nietzschian ubermenschen. (Certainly not me.😓)
DP, to which ethnic group do you belong?
The reason I ask is because sometimes comments/ideas are more easily understood when knowing the context of who’s speaking.
I’ve seen a self-proclaimed “USA-First California girl” keep saying “mum” instead of mom. (Who knows what British speaker raised her. Does she even recognize distinctions between US & UK? Perhaps to some newcomers, everyone in super-diverse CA seems equally foreign or native.)
Likewise, I recently answered the telephone, & it was a sales lady. Her accent was super distracting. I couldn’t place it, & hadn’t ever heard anything like it. It was very hard to understand. It turns out her first language was a rare Native AmerIndian tribal one.
About half British isles half French
In my humble opinion, it will not be possible to do anything of substance if all those who admit to having been, at one point, inspired by Christianity, are abruptly & distainfully written off. It’s important to keep morale up, to encourage people to keep having children, and to not shame folks because of the way they arrived at the solution White nationalism.
I completely agree with this. I became interested in White Advocacy pretty young (I went to a high school with a lot of minorities and was curious about the social issues around me), but some people have spent years in very different circles. I’ve met White Advocates who started off as active members of Christian groups and I also know two pro-White women who used to be Left wing.
James Kirkpatrick: May 22, 2025 I’ll be looking forward to Part 2 of this most interesting interview. I’m glad to be on the same side as both of you gentlemen.
Thanks, James. I’m honored to be interviewed by Ondrej for Counter-Currents. He tells me he is also now reviewing the recent anti-White Hollywood flop, The Order. The attention and truth he will bring to and about that film is much needed for our side.
I note that there are six hyperlinks in part 1 of this interview. That’s a lot more reading for those who are interested, but clicking on them will be worth it to gain a more thorough understanding of Dr. Pierce and his extraordinary life’s work for our race.
The mulattress who played the fbi agent is ‘hate crime’ hoaxer jussie smollet’s sister, jurnee-more butchering of the language with arrogant grating alterations.
Don’t worry, I’ll also dissect the non-white, inclusive FBI cop in my detailed review of The Order (2024).
James, you say you are on “the same side.” Does Cosmotheism appeal to you?
Dr. Pierce loses me when he gets into Cosmotheism. Maybe I’m simply not intellectual enough. Perhaps I worry too much about the vagueness and potential for deliberate confusion. I think efforts to advance White nationalism to as many White folks as possible takes enough of a commitment, and that having to also adopt a new religion seems like a bridge too far.
I really think the religious angle is both a turn-off, and unnecessary. Every day I give these matters strong consideration. Eventually when a strong authoritarian leader comes to power, we’ll probably be required to adopt a specific highly nationalist (hopefully pro-White) theology/philosophy for the purpose of promoting actions to encourage a healthy nation.
I respect what they’re doing with Cosmotheism – trying to create a non-Judeo religion for whites similar to our ancient pagan religions but informed by modern science – but it doesn’t quite appeal to me. I think the truth is that none of our supernatural beliefs are true, and science will continually erode the foundations of any supernatural belief system.
And yet I, too, feel we need a new religion for the white man. Personally, I believe the best approach is one that has no supernatural beliefs. I imagine a religiosity based around ancestor worship and good deeds to carry on the work of our ancestors – especially those who were the best role models – into the future for our descendants, with our people ever at the center. Our ancestors have the virtue of actually and provably existing. Every home could have a shrine to their ancestors, with photographs and artifacts stretching back generations, and conspicuous gaps reserved for future generations. Our meetings would tell the stories of our ancestors’ deeds going back to the ancient Greeks and beyond, pulling moral lessons from history, galvanizing our people to act in ways and with bravery and sacrifice and integrity that would have made our ancestors proud, and focusing on community and charity for our local people, matchmaking and support for the youth to start families, and the like.
Switching religions is really tough!
I heard a good point made recently– that if we look backwards for inspiration to early religious beliefs, would it only cause us to wind up in the exact same place we are now?
Should our #1 mission in constructing a new religion (which would need to take into account technological developments) be to design it in a way that it can withstand ever falling to liberalism ideologically? This would take rules, & enforcement of the rules.
“Our meetings would tell the stories of our ancestors’ deeds going back to the ancient Greeks and beyond, pulling moral lessons from history, galvanizing our people to act in ways and with bravery and sacrifice and integrity that would have made our ancestors proud, and focusing on community and charity for our local people, matchmaking and support for the youth to start families, and the like.”
Absolutely.
I simply meant that I’m glad to be aligned with two white people who are unapologetically pro-white.
I know little about Cosmotheism, so can’t really speak about it. But, I’m not drawn to religion at the moment nor have been for some time. The atomism of Lucretius resonates with me, and I’d have to say I’m agnostic, but that’s about it.
Great article, I am always glad to hear about William L. Pierce, he didn’t live long enough to experience Obama, I wonder what his thoughts would have been. I hope Revilo P. Oliver, and William G. Simpson are discussed in the future. 🙃
I never met William Luther Pierce in person, but I know him from his books, his activities, and his radio show American Dissident Voices. I think he would have continued to develop Resistance Records. Pierce had a project for white musical subcultures. Just as far-right skinheads took over the Oi! subculture and black metalheads became a far-right subculture, Pierce wanted to create nationalist versions of various musical subcultures. He would have supported and released nationalist pop in the style of the Backstreet Boys, but also black metal, grindcore, gothic music, neofolk, nationalist electro, and mainstream music. He would also broadcast his show American Dissident Voices. I think he would have supported Obama for the same reason as Greg Johnson—accelerationism. If we can’t have our nationalist candidate, let the anti-racist, anti-white USA have a black man instead. I think Pierce would have been very interested in the world of computers, programmers, hackers, cryptocurrencies, and computer games. And that the NA should also have its own computer games. Maybe even Turner’s Diaries as a computer game. And everyone would download it for free to their PCs. Even if the game wasn’t officially distributed and was banned in some countries. Maybe Will Williams will answer you in more detail.
Ondrej Mann: May 23, 2025… Maybe Will Williams will answer you in more detail.
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Maybe. I’ll try. Responding to Peter Quint’s two issues:
1.) Pierce did not support the electoral system of mass democracy and would not have endorsed Barack Obama. Of that I’m reasonably certain. Pierce said in this insightful piece 29 years ago about Pat Buchanan, that is worth reading today: Why They Hate Buchanan | National VanguardNow if I were the candidate instead of Pat Buchanan, the Jews would have something to scream about. Because if I were elected I’d declare a national emergency, and I’d immediately take the control of our news and entertainment media away from them. I’d root them out of Hollywood. I’d weed them out of our universities. I’d remove them from the courts. I’d clean house. But I really don’t believe that Buchanan would do that. He’s certainly never said or written anything to indicate he’d do that. He’s not a revolutionary. He’s a conservative. He’s a Republican. He’s a Christian. He’s simply a fellow with old-fashioned values, and he’s a fighter. He has no particular grudge against the Jews, but when some of them desecrate his church, he becomes angry and says something about it. When he sees an injustice taking place, as in the persecution of John Demjanjuk, he may or may not speak out, but his decision as to whether or not to speak out isn’t based on what the Jews might think about it. He has other considerations.
And basically that’s why the Jewish media are attacking him so viciously. They can’t tolerate a politician who has any considerations other than what the Jews might think. Basically they can’t tolerate a politician who doesn’t jump when they whistle. If he won’t apologize and grovel now, there’s no telling what he might not do if he’s in the White House. He might not send all of those billions of dollars from American taxpayers to Israel every year. He might not appoint Jews to half of his cabinet positions and to the head of the CIA and to every Supreme Court vacancy, the way Clinton has. He might not send U.S. troops when and where he’s told to send them. He might not base his policies on what’s good for the Jews instead of on what’s good for America. That’s why they hate him. That’s why they’re trying to convince the voters that he’s an extremist… Buchanan is not part of the system. Buchanan is an outsider. A Buchanan win would severely damage the prestige of the system. It would upset the Republican applecart [Think Trump 20 years later]…
That’s why they keep calling him an “extremist,” when in fact his views are anything but extreme. God, I wish that he were an extremist! We need more extremists.
What’s important for us to remember, though, is that extremism isn’t the issue here. Extremism is just a smoke screen. The real issue is refusing to take orders from the Jews, refusing to follow the Jewish party line. That’s what the Jews call “anti-Semitism.” That’s what they call “hate.” That’s what they call “neo-Nazism.”…The big media bosses, the top Jewish leaders, would like to keep the issue confined to “extremism.” They would like for the general public not to know about the charges of “anti-Semitism” and “neo-Nazism” that they’re throwing around so freely in their Jewish publications that we’re not supposed to see….
Actually that sort of thing already is happening to a small degree. Some of the really excitable Jews, the really hateful Jews, already are finding it impossible to keep their mouths shut. One of these is Rabbi Avi Weiss, a very intense little Jew who heads a Hebrew outfit called “Amcha.” Rabbi Weiss and his followers have made a habit of trying to disrupt Buchanan’s election rallies. They jump up on the speaker’s platform with signs saying, “Buchanan Is a Jew Hater,” and wave them in front of the TV cameras. Of course, they get tossed out of the rallies, and some of the Buchanan supporters who are there tell them what they think about their antics. To Weiss, this is proof that he is right: Buchanan and his supporters are Jew-haters, because they call Weiss and his fellow disrupters nasty names when they toss them out of rallies. Weiss is accustomed to politicians who grovel and apologize. Anyone who doesn’t grovel and apologize must be an “anti-Semite” – especially anyone who dares to say nasty things to one of God’s Chosen People. And so Rabbi Weiss, who writes in general circulation newspapers as well as in strictly Jewish papers, is loudly calling Buchanan an “anti-Semite.”
And I believe that other Jews will begin doing the same before the campaign is over. That will allow Buchanan supporters to understand who their real enemy is, to understand who’s behind the propaganda campaign against Buchanan, to understand who’s pulling Bob Dole’s strings.
Of course, the trendy liberal elements will follow the Jewish lead, as they always do, and they also will step up the intensity and viciousness of their own attacks on Buchanan. But still, the general public will have a chance to see that the reason the media and the party bosses don’t like Buchanan isn’t extremism at all. It’s what his enemies will call “anti-Semitism” and what is really just a reluctance to let the Jews tell him what to think and what to say and lead him by the nose the way they lead the other politicians. And at least some members of the public will gain a bit of understanding of the nature of the Republican/Democrat political charade in Jew-ridden America. They’ll understand that if the Jews don’t like you, then the media won’t like you. And if the media don’t like you, you won’t get elected.
That alone will make these ongoing Republican primaries an enormously rewarding experience for America. It’ll be a rewarding experience for me too. Sometimes I feel a bit awkward, talking week after week about the Jewish control of the news and entertainment media, the Jewish control of the American political process, the Jewish control of the U.S. government.
People should be able to see these things for themselves. I shouldn’t have to tell them the same things over and over again. The evidence is everywhere. It’s obvious. But most people don’t pay attention to it. They don’t want to come to conclusions that might be considered “extremist.” So they pretend that everything is all right, even when they know that it isn’t. And they hope that someone like Pat Buchanan will come along and fix things.
And now they see Buchanan being attacked, first as an “extremist” and then as an “anti-Semite,” for saying that we ought to restore the integrity of our borders, that we ought to enforce our immigration laws, that we ought to protect American workers from competition with Chinese and Mexican workers, that we ought not to start wars unless America’s vital interests are threatened.
For that he’s an “anti-Semite”?….
That was 1996. Pierce had much more to say about Buchanan and the Jews three years later, prior to PB’s 2000 presidential bid, in this memorable piece: A Call for “Tolerance” at nationalvanguard.org:
…New York’s Jewish Press, which bills itself as the world’s largest-circulation English-language newspaper for Jews. Three weeks ago, in the October 1 issue of the Jewish Press, a Jewish spokesman, Professor Howard L. Adelson, had a column titled “Another Sewer Rat Appears.” Professor Adelson wrote, and I quote: “Out of the slime of the sewers and into the filth of the gutter a desperate Patrick J. Buchanan, the neo-Nazi, has crawled into the political arena using anti-Semitism as his principal device to secure a future for himself.” That’s the first sentence in Professor Adelson’s column, and it’s a bit awkward, so I’ll read it again for you, and you can savor it’s Jewish flavor: “Out of the slime of the sewers and into the filth of the gutter a desperate Patrick J. Buchanan, the neo-Nazi, has crawled into the political arena using anti-Semitism as his principal device to secure a future for himself.”
Well that’s just the beginning of a very long column by Professor Adelson, and every sentence oozes a vicious, Talmudic hatred. He goes on to say that Buchanan “always was a neo-Nazi,” whose “ignorance is astounding” and “reveals the shallow quality of his tortured, sick, defective mind.” ….
Similar statements follow by other Buchanan-hating Jewboys, including media darling and Jeffrey Epstein’s buddy, Alan Dershowitz. This is also a must read in its entirety at the link above, if only to see what he said about front man for the Jews, Donald Trump, in 1999. Pierce said:
I want to make it clear that I am not a Buchanan supporter. Buchanan is the only candidate who comes even remotely close to being honest, to being a man of principle, a man who means what he says and says what he means. I have agreed with some of Buchanan’s positions in the past, but we also disagree on a number of fundamental issues, and I will not be supporting him, partly because I cannot support the system under which all the candidates will be running.
He would not have supported Obama for “accelerationism” or for any other reason
accelerationism or any other reason.
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2.) Readers can read about RPO on C-C here, including his review of WGS’s Which Way Western Man?: Remembering Revilo Oliver (July 7, 1908–August 20, 1994) Oliver is a featured writer on NV with 443 entries, here: “Revilo P. Oliver” at nationalvanguard.org. Searches there for Simpson, a National Alliance member and and early follower of Cosmotheism, will turn up several essays, including this one that describes his life in a nutshell: “William Gayley Simpson: A Volkish Life” at nationalvanguard.org:
…Simpson, published in the short book Toward the Rising Sun over eighty years ago. Simpson was a man who took Christianity and the teachings of Jesus more seriously than most anyone in his day. He took Jesus at his word. Unlike most Christians, he attempted to actually live the ideals he professed to believe in. Simpson spent years in poverty wandering the country doing odds jobs (only to give away all his money) and putting himself at service to the lowest of the low.
Simpson lived this ‘Franciscan’ life for many years until he came upon the works of Friedrich Nietzsche. After reading the entirety of the philosophers’s work, he was ultimately forced to abandoned his deep faith in Christ and his humanitarian world view. Such was the price of his integrity as a thinking man and the natural outcome of his relentless truth seeking. Of course, he didn’t stop there; Simpson then came to appreciate the singular importance of race and the deadly peril facing our White Western world.
His transformation was remarkable. But what was truly impressive was that he spoke openly about everything that he had learned — even when it meant losing everything he had worked his whole life to accomplish. One by one, his close friends abandoned him. Foundations and colleges that used to pay him to speak now blacklisted him. But Simpson was not deterred, he continued to speak and write to whomever would listen for the rest of his life. He compiled his writings, which span from the 1930s to the 1970s, into a masterpiece he titled Which Way Western Man? It is without a doubt the greatest book written by an American in the 20th century.
Simpson’s fearless truth seeking was as broad as it was deep. His work is intensely personal and poetic — he speaks right to the soul of the racially conscious White man. But his thought is also worldly and clear — something which no doubt comes from his extensive knowledge of history. This union is what makes Simpson’s work the perfect starting point for Volkish Spirituality in America today. We need a clear mind but also a burning heart.
But what did Simpson propose our people believe in if not Christianity?
Echoing Nietzsche, Simpson called for a new Religion of Life. He claimed God was to be found inside ourselves — what he called the ‘divine spark’ or ‘inner light’. He knew that we didn’t need a book to find God. We didn’t need a priest to interpret God’s will. And that it was wrong for us to look back to ancient Palestine, two thousand years ago, in order to learn how best to live in our present day.
Finally, Simpson knew that our soul was intimately tied to our race — our Aryan blood — and therefore this new religion must be a religion of and for that blood. And like Nietzsche, he proclaimed that our new mission was first to ennoble ourselves and then to inspire the same in our people. He felt that we mustn’t be content with what we presently are, but must strive to remake ourselves constantly into something higher and greater.
As Volkish Believers, we must take part in the spiritual journey that consumed Simpson’s life. Because if we do, we will move that much closer to becoming the new Higher Man, who alone can save our Volk….
“He claimed God was to be found inside ourselves — what he called the ‘divine spark’ or ‘inner light’.”
Ironically, while that spark is positive, it too, can be twisted by “new-agers” into: since I have spirituality/something soulful within me, I need to make myself a low-key god/goddess…
Do we see a “light at the end of the tunnel” or do we recognize the oncoming freight train?
For y-e-a-r-s I vexed about what’s the “right” & the “wrong” thing to do.
Finally, I graduated to the most important concept: Let’s simply do what makes sense for our health & long term survival!
Kim: May 24, 2025 “[Simpson] claimed God was to be found inside ourselves — what he called the ‘divine spark’ or ‘inner light’.”….
Simpson wasn’t referring to the mythical Jewish God, Yahweh, Kim. If you want to understand his journey from Jesus lover to Cosmotheism, you might want to read his book, his own words, available here: Which Way Western Man? (Third Edition) by William Gayley Simpson – Cosmotheism
Throughout his long lifetime, William Gayley Simpson was a widely traveled and careful observer of Western civilization and its relations with the non-White peoples of the world, especially the Negro and the Jew. An exceptionally deep thinker, he traced the sickness that has overtaken the White man’s world in the 20th century to its roots in Jewish world conspiracy and its coordinated aggressive moves against us. Simpson reveals the deception inherent in our money system, which isn’t based on real wealth at all, but on debt and fantasy, and it cannot do other than cause trouble for the people condemned to use it as their medium of exchange. The author also shows why feminism is not the liberation of woman, but the unsexing of woman. Simpson reveals the fundamental incompatibility between capitalism, which he calls “The Machine,” and the human psyche. He goes into great detail about the physiological basis of Negro intellectual inferiority, quoting copiously from sources that once were readily available to the layman, but were censored from the popular media and removed to arcane medical journals after World War 2. And, of course, he exposes the nefarious Jew for the deadly parasite he is. Every racially conscious White person will want this book in his collection. It is very possibly the best book of racial philosophy originally written in the English language. This is the only edition of Which Way Western Man? that incorporates the author’s final revisions.
“Then it comes to be that the soothing light
At the end of your tunnel
Was just a freight train coming your way, yeah
Then it comes to be that the soothing light
At the end of your tunnel
Was just a freight train coming your way, yeah”
No Leaf Clover
Metallica
Adelson calling Buchanan a sewer rat? Holy projection, Batman!
Exactly.
Excellent, WHITE WILL! As I have told you before “The Saga of White Will” comic was circulated around my high school by my friends and I in the mid 1990’s. Although my school was 99% White (and I thank Providence for that) my group of friends favorite past time was slapping around the numerous wiggers in our area.
I was 18 in 1996 and I voted for Buchanan in the Republican primary as did the rest of my family. I was very enthusiastic about him especially since he advised Reagan to lay a wreath at Bitburg Cemetery in Germany, home of slumbering Waffen-SS heroes. That earned Buchanan the eternal ire of the jews. Dr. Pierce was 100% correct about his estimation of Buchanan and why he was so hated by our eternal enemies.
Thank you for being at the forefront, the elite VANGUARD fighting for Our Race for over 40 years, Mr. Williams.
-Wodan Mit Uns-
Let’s All Drink to the Death of a Clown: May 25, 2025 Excellent, WHITE WILL!…Thank you for being at the forefront, the elite VANGUARD fighting for Our Race for over 40 years, Mr. Williams…
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Thank you, sir. Some of our people “get it.” Most do not. Reading the hyperlinked articles in this interview may help to inform the urgency of our race’s situation to those still in the dark.
The video games especially would be vital to promoting our ideas. If one guy could develop Stardew Valley in four years on a modest budget, a team of our own should consider doing the same, say a SIM CITY or national simulation builder for White peoples to build upon areas ravaged by the night peoples.
Uncle Semantic: May 25, 2025 The video games especially would be vital to promoting our ideas. If one guy could develop Stardew Valley in four years on a modest budget, a team of our own should consider doing the same, say a SIM CITY or national simulation builder for White peoples to build upon areas ravaged by the night peoples.
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Our Alliance produceded and released its own video game 23 years ago named Ethnic Cleansing. I’ve never seen it, but, then, I’ve never seen any video game, much beyond “Pong” from the 70s. I’ve heard that Ethnic Cleansing could have been more perfected prior to its release. The Wikijews have this, among other things, to say about NA’s only video game:
William Luther Pierce, the National Alliance’s founder, claimed the game had a positive reception and sold 2,000 copies by March 2002, with 90% of customers being “white teenage boys”.[7][21] He characterized it as a “medium for the message” that teenagers could be subjected to even before being old enough to join the National Alliance.[18][22] Several academic writers noted the use of video games and the associated popular culture as an effective recruitment tool for young people.[5][6][23][24] Nick Robinson and Joe Whittaker believe that having the collectable life rune, which doubles as the National Alliance’s logo, restore the player’s health makes them associate it with positive effects. However, they believed the game’s high difficulty may limit its appeal to experienced players.[5] In a retrospective for Vice, Paweł Mączewski noted that “the game itself is so tragic in terms of execution that even neo-Nazis would not want to play it”.[25] The Record interviewed several young men who identified as white nationalists, and they found the game to be in bad taste and potentially harmful for their movement due to the violence it depicts.[26]…
If our National Office can be convinced that a positive, attractive video game can be produced for Our Cause today, and if someone will be willing to finance the project, we’ll see that it gets distributed. Meanwhile, we have more pressing projects that are yet to be funded.
Yes, there are already some WN computer games. But they are not great, because there is a lot of competition in PC games. There are Ethnic Cleansing, Heimat Defender, The Great Rebellion. If you want to play a really good white game from a world-class developer, try Kingdom Come Deliverance I. and II. It’s a great computer game.
Looking forward to Part 2.
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Thank you, Mr. Mann, for doing this interview. I am proud to be a member of the National Alliance, and very proud of Chairman Williams and the Alliance staff for what they have accomplished in little more than a decade. They restored the NA from a state of collapse back to what Dr. Pierce had originally built: the world’s foremost organization for the preservation of the White race and the restoration of racial sanity.
I eagerly look forward to part 2 of this very important interview.
By the way, this interview convinced me to join the CC Paywall. That way, I get to read the most important articles when they first appear.
C.E. Whiteoak: May 25, 2025 I am proud to be a member of the National Alliance, and very proud of Chairman Williams and the Alliance staff for what they have accomplished in little more than a decade. They restored the NA from a state of collapse back to what Dr. Pierce had originally built: the world’s foremost organization for the preservation of the White race and the restoration of racial sanity. I eagerly look forward to part 2 of this very important interview.
By the way, this interview convinced me to join the CC Paywall. That way, I get to read the most important articles when they first appear.
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As an unpaid volunteer, your words are my reward, C.E. When our Alliance has just 1,000 committed members like you the war will be half won.
Thanks for joining as a contributor to Counter-Currents.
Thank you for your trust. By purchasing the paywall, you have done a good thing for Our Cause. I hope you find many interesting articles on Counter-currents. Personally, I am planning several more interviews with old-school white nationalists.
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