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I always wondered how veterans of WWI must have felt 20 years after the Armistice watching Europe careen towards another European conflict. How did they feel while remembering all the sacrifices they made, the suffering they witnessed, and the friends they lost? During the war, the only thing that made it bearable was the conviction that it would be the last time the world would ever go through such an ordeal. But two decades on, it looked like the nations of Europe were about to go through it all over again.
“What, then, was it all for?” they must have wondered. I can probably never know how those people felt, but after last weekend, I think I have something of an idea.
See, I fought in the Optics War. There has been a lot of retconning of the Optics War since it happened. Wignats have tried to retcon the Optics Wars as having been a referendum on whether or not to support Trump. So then when Trump would do something that betrayed his base to please Zionists, Wignats would say “See? We Wignats were right all along!” The Optics War was not about Trump. The Optics War was not about any one thing. It was about a lot of things, but one of the things it was not about was Trump.
People forget some of the absolutely retarded things people were saying before the Optics War. I remember people saying that we need to be filmed getting in fistfights with Antifa. You see, people are drawn to strength so if people see a lot of videos of getting in fistfights with Antifa, that will make people want to join us. Well, it’s good to see that the Popeye School of Political Science is still producing graduates.
There were still people defending the use of swastikas. There were still people defending wearing uniforms and armbands. There were still thought leaders doing Roman salutes in public. There were all sorts of people claiming that if they were just allowed to live out their childish fantasies in public that it would somehow result in masses of neurotypicals rallying to our standards.
More than anything, the Optics War was over two things a) the utility of public rallies and b) how to tailor the message to a mass audience. There is still a lot of disagreement about B, but almost everyone who was around during that time has come to agree that yes, explicitly White Nationalist public events are a bad idea. None of the OG Wignats from 2017-18 are still saying that we need to be out marching in the streets. Not TRS, not Richard Spencer, none of them. We still disagree on messaging, but if nothing else, there is a shred of consensus on that much.
The Optics War was a brutal and vicious struggle. People were doxed, permanent enemies were made, and the consequences reverberate to this day. But on the upside, we at least we resolved the whole question about public rallies and would never have to deal with that again. Or at least not for the foreseeable future. Or so I thought.
Then Sunday morning, I find out that Patriot Front staged a march in Philadelphia on Saturday. As I watched clips of Patriot Front members running away from counter-protestors and pictures of them being questioned by the police, I had some understanding of how those WWI vets must have felt in 1938. My reaction was something along the lines of “GOD DAMN IT! What are you doing? I fought a fucking Optics War to prevent this from ever happening again! I saw my comrade Ricky Vaughn get doxed trying to stop shit like this! Why? Why are you idiots doing this?”
I’m not sure what exactly the purpose of doing these public marches is. If they go perfectly, the media ignores them. If they go poorly, they become national news stories. If they go perfectly, they are temporary morale boosts for our side which are forgotten about in a couple of weeks. If they go poorly, they become public relations disasters that haunt you for years. It’s like flipping a coin: if it’s heads, you get 10 cents, and if it comes up tails, you have to pay $10,000. You either break even or you lose big. There is no possibility of hitting a jackpot.
In this case, things went somewhat less than perfectly. There is video of Patriot Front running from counter-protestors which is being spread around by enemy media. Worst of all, members of PF were interviewed by police who collected all their information.
That is especially bad news because, in the weeks leading up to the march, members of Patriot Front allegedly defaced a couple of George Floyd statues in Brooklyn and New Jersey. I say allegedly. I suppose it’s possible that someone else did it and they are trying to frame Patriot Front for it by spray painting it. But if those statues were defaced by PF and those same people also went to the Philly march, they are now in danger.
Members of Patriot Front have claimed the night was not a bad result because no one was arrested, injured, or doxed. That last part is not true. Antifa has already identified several people in attendance. They also note that they have done a few marches in the past all of which have gone off without a hitch. I dunno. Maybe that’s true. But then again, the Alt-Right pulled off a few trial runs before Charlottesville that went off with no problems. The fact is that they are still playing Russian roulette with these marches. If you keep playing, you are guaranteed to eventually get the bullet. It only takes one march going wrong before a world of pain is opened up.
The one thing that Patriot Front did right is that they managed to plan and organize the rally without anyone learning of it in advance.
Despite Patriot Front’s admittedly superb opsec, Antifa are still declaring the rally a propaganda win for their side.
You can expect Antifa to rework their tactics in response. Either they will get one of their own people to infiltrate Patriot Front, or now that the feds will be monitoring the communications, they might be able to get tipped off. Or maybe they will develop some new rapid response system. I don’t know, but I’m sure they will find a way to counter this new kind of guerilla activism.
No White Guilt made a good video where he gave Patriot Front a pretty thorough tongue-lashing. However, looking at the comments from Patriot Front members was really disheartening.
Defending the uniforms. Now there’s a blast from the past.
There’s more macho talk about displaying strength. Another graduate from the Popeye School of Political Science. Did the Left take power by “displaying strength”? No. In fact, they did the opposite. They went out in the streets dressed in drag or wearing leather thongs and feather boas.
I mean. . .
This is just depressing. It’s all the same talking points from three years ago. It’s like the Optics War never happened. I can’t even be bothered to argue with these people. I know I should because once these guys inevitably roll snake eyes, the establishment is not going to retaliate against just them but against all of us. And yet, I just can’t bring myself to fight another Optics War. If these guys don’t get it by now, they are never going to. Or if they ever do learn, it will be the hard way.
Patriot Front are heading towards another Charlottesville. I’m reminded of the concept of “eternal return.” I wonder if maybe this is just something we are going to have to go through again and again every few years.
Every few years, a new generation of whites is going to become redpilled on our situation and wonder why no one wants to do anything about it. All the old vets will explain “Okay, here’s the deal. Doing something right now is a bad idea because X, Y, and Z. We need to sit tight and wait for the situation to change. In the meantime, we spread the message, work on shifting the Overton Window, build communities, and maybe get involved in local normie politics until an advantageous opportunity arises.”
The young kids will say “All your talking hasn’t done anything! I’m gonna go do something!” They will then charge the establishment, get crushed, and figure out “Oh, so that’s why we’re not doing anything right now.”
And then a few years later, a new generation of whites will come along, get redpilled on our situation, and ask why no one wants to do anything about it. The old vets (including that last generation) will explain “Okay, here’s the deal. . .” and the kids will be like “Screw that! I’m gonna do something!” before running off and getting crushed by the establishment.
And then a few years later. . .
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What PF did was brave and good.
I realize that we are under bombardment, and when under bombardment you get flat and stay put.
But when the bombardment lifts, return fire. And keep the flag raised.
The Patriots of 1776 “ran away” and/or lost most every battle they fought. They won by showing up. By showing up and getting clobbered, they kept the flame burning. They lost until they won.
We have transitioned from cold war to real war. Civil War. This must be understood. Things cannot not get better until they get worse first. That is our new reality.
We do need bulletproof communication channels. We also need a Dr. Clark solution to the infiltrator. And other unmentionable things. Tech, tech, tech.
In technology, both high and low, we must find ways to return fire on the Left. Get creative.
“They won by showing up. By showing up and getting clobbered, they kept the flame burning. They lost until they won.”
They played an “infinite game” not the finite game. Same way the viet-cong “defeated” the United States even though they lost nearly every single battle.
But are the tactics employed by PF the best way to play the Infinite game? I’m highly skeptical
Discretion is the better part of valor.
For a while, perhaps. But even as metapolitical work is advancing, white nations are being flooded by foreign race aliens; outbred by domestic varieties; and oppressed by tightening anti-dissident legislation. As Jared Taylor has put it (obviously but accurately), we’re in a race against time (assuming the race is not already over, which is possible, though I don’t myself believe that). We simply don’t have the luxury of another two decades to develop and disseminate the white nationalist “intellectual edifice” before entering the arena. We are the victims of a full spectrum vernichtungskrieg – a war of total annihilation – in which the price of defeat will not be humiliation and war reparations, but individual enslavement and eventual racial extinction. At some point, we must make ourselves felt politically as well as intellectually. How will we know when we’ve reached that point?
The Patriots won by getting the French with their infinity money and infinity population to fight the British.
Yep, yep, young people are brave and want to DO something, hence all the wars in history and so on and so forth. You know it only speeds the inevitable because as these websites and ideas gain traction, they will be deplatformed and blacked out anyway. The better to learn the playing field sooner, to figure out who has staying power and who are unresolved glassjaws the sooner. Maybe no pathway is correct entirely. Now even the trump supporters and capitol protestors are getting our treatment.
Oh, shut up. “Our public relations catastrophe was actually good because it weeded out the thin-skinned people” is the biggest cope in the history of white nationalism.
You’re anonymous. If you’re anonymous, that means you can quit the movement any time you like and go on with the rest of your life as if none of this ever happened. I have zero reason to believe that you have “staying power”. I have no idea what your jaw is made of.
Do you even do anything? Do you make content? What exactly would you say you do for the movement? It’s pretty easy to “stay” if all you are doing is observing. It’s easy to say “Well, they’re going to shut down all the websites anyway” when you don’t run a website. I’m in this game under my own name so these kinds of stunts affect me.
And they’re not shutting things down in direct proportion to them gaining traction. The big waves of censorship have always occurred in response to these kinds public antics: after Charlottesville, after Christchurch, after January 6. Even if censorship is inevitable, there is no reason why you would want to accelerate that.
Oh I understand. From an individual perspective it would be better to fill your coffers for as long as possible before the deplatformings occur, but that still doesn’t make it a sustainable business model. Certainly I would say counter currents has shown resilience.
I have no talent for content creation, else I would be doing it and not working some funny job! Nor do I have the trait of meanness needed to say the things that need to be said.
” I’m in this game under my own name …”
Really? No kidding? And here I thought your last name could only be an apt nom de guerre.
Have to respectfully disagree with LeBlanc on this one, what PF did was very good, the main aim should be to always be in the headlines, because if a genuine Dissident Right group is not trying to get into the spotlight, some fake and gay group like Proud Boys will.
Charlottesville was quite literally a success, it seared “alt-Right” into the national consciousness. If these marches won’t get neurotypicals on our side, then neither will long form essays on relatively obscure websites.
These agitations give online activists material to work with.
Well put, Mr. LeBlanc. I see the opposing comments are already rolling in like over at the NWG channel.
The Popeye School of Political Science’s graduating class of 2021 has definitely hit the streets ready for action.
Apparently, they cancelled all classes describing that when outmanned and outgunned, only brains will save you.
I share your frustration over the seemingly never ending learning curve.
Forgive me, but because you “fought in the Optics War” and what, won? lost? everyone else should just shut the hell up until “something changes” which will happen approximately never because no one should do anything until then? And how exactly did you fight? Were your elders disgusted with you, I wonder? Surely they fought before you, to the same no avail, and think you should have shut the hell up.
Why do you (quite obviously very proudly) get to announce your bravado in the “war” while telling everyone else what dumb shits they are for doing so?
Aren’t you the same guy that told us also to shut up and go along to get along during the Biden presidency because you lost weight during COVID so it would all be hunky dory?
Political uniforms are banned in the UK: a few more of these marches and a way will be found to outlaw them in the US. That will be another piece of selective legislation that the Left and allies will be permitted to ignore.
Ironically enough, the Mongols MC is the tip of the spear in that fight. The federal government banned their trademarked colors which is a clearly unconstitutional move and sets a dangerous precedent. I’d expect to see that type of action expanded in the future.
Political uniforms are, as you say, banned in the UK, but the law has not been enforced where blacks are concerned. I have written to my MP to express my concern.
I really dug Travis’s critique and ridicule, at least as something that needs to be said. But the comparison to WN and Alt Right behavior of 2015-17 doesn’t quite wash. From what I can see, PF does not indulge in public showboating, celebrity cult-leaders, or naïve cultivation of the popular Left-wing media.
“No property was destroyed during this commotion last night.” The amount of gaslighting from the news report in the youtube link is unbearable. The officer both tries to make the group sound menacing because they, “threw a smoke bomb” but then mentions they, “literally ran away from the citizens of Philadelphia.” Meanwhile, people who deign defend themselves from BLM have DAs breathing down their necks.
I’m ambivalent with these marches. On the one side this was literally, in every sense of the word, a mostly peaceful protest. I think it sows seeds of doubt in the narrative. I don’t think your typical normie or boomer can’t help but hear this news story and think, “I may disagree with these white supremacists, but isn’t this a free country?” I used to be a liberal/libertarian normie, and considered myself on the left. But the woke left’s attack on free speech and Frankfurt school repressive tolerance was just too much.
Pragmatically speaking, LeBanc’s Russian roulette and coin toss metaphors are most apt. What happened to the Proud Boys in New York was pretty much The Bonfire of Vanities on steroids. I bet DeBlasio felt so good about himself when he said, “Hate has no place in New York.” Then of course there was Charlottesville. I believe it was Jared Taylor who put it best, the game is rigged and you have to adapt. If God forbid something happened in Philly, every legal sophistry would be against PF and every legal sophistry in favor of their aggressors. Even if antifa agitators started it, again, look at what happened to the Proud Boys in NYC. I saw the video, antifa goons literally threw the first punch and Proud Boys did the time. Look at the McCloskey’s in St. Louis. They literally had a mob of protestors trespass on their property. I believe all the protesters had their charges dropped and the McCloskey’s had to plea bargain.
As Sun Tzu said in the art of war, the supreme art of war is to subdue your enemy without fighting. The woke left pushing CRT is simply too much even for “Democrats are the real racists!” normie boomers. These marches are akin to the interruptions when your enemy is making a mistake, to take from Napoleon.
These marches are akin to the interruptions when your enemy is making a mistake, to take from Napoleon.
Which makes you wonder: Is PF not just Patriot Front, but an alphabet front?
I am going to have to politely disagree with the assessment that this was a failure/loss/unsuccessful. I think you might just be falling for the establishments propaganda with regards to the alleged retreat.
My reasoning for this is that they did go and do the full march despite deceptive editing saying they ran away. They marched the full three mile route and then had the trucks wait for them at the end point. Also the PF guys have their own video they are going to be releasing. A trailer was released and it did look pretty bad ass already.
Additionally, I have not seen anyone who was doxed and you are actually the first and only person I have seen say that.
I will agree with your point that Patriot Front should be very careful with regards to marches and activism because it could easily go wrong. I am also confused as to the purpose of their marches since (in my opinion) you only march when you have won. Marching otherwise gives the enemy the ability to take potshots that could do serious damage.
That being said, I do believe in Thomas’s leadership as they have been doing a very good job thus far and I wish him and his organization and comrades the best of luck.
If you have to explain why it was a win, that means it was a loss. I mean, that’s like explaining why your art is good. Your work should speak for itself.
I sometimes wonder which is harder, knowing where to apply general truths, or knowing what those general truths are.
Some of those general truths, as I see it, are the following:
We will never be seen as good by our enemies, no matter what we do, and our cause will never be viewed as legitimate.
There are times when physical altercation is necessary.
Because of impatience, however, people often foment physical altercations where none would have otherwise occurred.
The majority of whites are malleable people whose allegiances are gained or lost, rightly or wrongly, by appearances of injustice rather than actual injustice or justice.
The malleable people, once “gained,” can make stalwart allies, even if they are not ideologues, because their emotional persuasion was strong, strong enough, in many cases, to make them become ideologically aware.
Waiting for and figuring out the right moment to act, rather than just doing something even if it’s wrong thing, is torturous, and feels like cowardice. And I’ll be honest, if I had the means I would “final solution” my enemies. I would. No question about it. However, I don’t have the means, nor does anyone, ever. If they did, we would all cease to exist instantly, because instant gratification feels so damn good.
It’s a fun, then sobering, scenario to run in your head: “What does a swift, final solution look like?” Keyword: swift. Because we’re fucking sick of waiting.
I suppose there’s a way that an IRL march/protest could be done, by our side, but who’s willing to do that? Go out there like “meek and mild” blacks in the 60s and do it like martyrs. Why? Because they knew (or rather, the brains backing them knew) that the image of a black person physically assailing a white one would set them back a hundred years. So they grinned and bore it, took the fire hoses and the dogs, knowing that they pay off was a net gain. And it did! We are paying for it dearly today.
And today, the photo-negative. We could march in the street and be brutally attacked by legions of blacks, as we would! And we should be allowed to fight back and win, if possible. But everyone here knows, the sole image shown, the one to saturate the minds of every viewer of every major network, constantly, would be the one where a single white guy, between pummelings, got in a lucky shot on his one-of-ten attacker. Then, Headline: “Neo-Nazis Storm Philadelphia, Attack Innocent Black Man”.
Should. The big abstraction. The big abstraction that the legal system routinely uses, with our help, to concretely bludgeon us all to death with.
I think Mr. LeBlanc is right on this one. But I also appreciate the protestors’ zeal. They’re sick of what they see, as we all are here. We all just have to figure out that ever-moving-target that is knowing when to hold, and when to hold the spikes up.
PF Philly action was awesome
Hobson’s Choice: A group like Patriot Front plans a march.
Choice A: They announce it publicly beforehand which means a more impressive turnout. Conversely, it means much more Leftist counter-protesters.
Choice B: They only tip off their comrades about the march. This means far fewer counter-protesters but it means a much smaller group of marchers. The Left and the media will then mock the low turnout.
Wow. Sounds like the only way to win is not to play.
Marches accomplish nothing whatsoever for us. As LeBlanc pointed out, if they go well nobody cares, if they don’t go well it’s a tidal wave of bullshit on our heads. Patriot Front is nothing but a bunch of attention whores and unfortunately most of the Right is too stupid to avoid these clowns.
We may as well give up.
If you think public marches in the streets are effective means over winning over the masses and not counter-productive exercises in ego-tripping and dopamine-chasing then yes, in your particular case, giving up would be the best thing you could possibly do for the white race.
The biggest mistake of Charlottesville was that the leaders and the other attendees weren’t clear enough in their online and public messaging that violence would only be used in self-defense. That’s something that can easily be corrected. Also, make sure to have people filming the whole thing to show who struck first. I’m optimistic that they will win their lawsuits though. I mean, Proud Boys are still battling with Antifa to this day without getting arrested.
But if you really want to win over the hearts and minds of the public, crushing Antifa in the streets (who pretty much everyone hates now after last summer) would go a long way towards that…as long as it’s in self-defense and while protesting with a message like “It’s Okay To Be White”,”Stop White Replacement” or something like that.
One problem I have with these Patriot Front actions is that the message isn’t immediately obvious other than “We exist.” The media will often not report on what is chanted which is why so many people use signs with slogans on them at protests. They should also lose the cheesy, multi-colored shields and the uniforms. Just dress like you’re going to a church picnic or something. You want to create the dichotomy of normal people vs. the Antifa freak shows. Might be a good idea to invest in a bullet or stab proof vest though.
Thanks for the update on the PF actions.
Let’s see more on Patriot Front: articles, interviews, podcasts. We need to know more about the wider nationalist movement.
I second the motion.
The argument that these events have a greater potential to be a net loss, rather than a net gain, is pretty convincing. And I would agree that the “optics battle” will be cyclical with each new generation of redpilled dissidents. So instead of rehashing the same debate between the old guard and the newly converted, let’s accept that these actions will forever recur and instead discuss risk management to minimize damage to the movement.
PF seem highly disciplined. They could have broken ranks and retaliated against the counter-protesters, but they didn’t. They defended themselves with the minimum amount of force needed. That shows great restraint. That also suggests that they are quite selective in their membership, and that they rigorously train before these marches. If dissidents feel the need to do something, can we agree that vetting high-quality, reliable men with impressive self-control is the best approach?
True, the media will find the one clip of our guy clocking an aggressive POC and play it on a loop for the world to see. But it’s 2021, we have other outlets to get the truth to the masses. PF does that. They record, edit, and explain their missions in slick videos that normie eyes may eventually see. We know the enemy media won’t portray us like blacks during the civil rights movement. So what? We have the means to create our own narrative to break through the MSM blockade.
I think we can all identify cringey LARPing when we see it. And that’s not the impression PF gave me. If the newer, less experienced guys in the movement must act (and you know they will), isn’t this professional, disciplined, and well organized image the one we want to present to the public? The Overton window doesn’t shift through intellectual debate alone. For the whites that see everything around them disintegrating, but hear and see no one taking a vocal stand, these events may reassure them that they are not alone. Few will actually join PF demonstrations, but many more may be nudged toward embracing their identity because of it. Seeing PF men saying out loud what normies have been only silently thinking, may give them “permission” to reassess politics in modern America.
Since we can’t stop these groups and events, why not try to manage it to our advantage? PF appear to provide a decent template for that.
“Since we can’t stop these groups and events, why not try to manage it to our advantage?”
I won’t support these marches even if they are unavoidable because if I am seen supporting them, that would make me a target for establishment retaliation when one finally goes horrible wrong. I still might be even if I don’t support them but if I am going to go down, I will go down with a clear conscience.
“the Popeye School of Political Science” had me howling!
I understand your reasoning Mr. LeBlanc, however I’m not convinced that PF was in the wrong here. Their “optics” as far as I’m concerned are head and shoulders above that of say… a group of skinnyfat (or just fat) retards parading around in stahlhelms. Of course events like these run the risk of inspiring and emboldening said retards to get back out there.
I know it’s cliche to say “they’re gonna call us Nazis anyways!!” but at this point it’s comically true. When you have the police, the media and antifa all engaging in a circle jerk about “we ran white supreeemists out of our town!” the only response from a fair minded person should be a groaning eye roll. Yes, education and network building should be the primary focus, but exposing that these clowns are all on the same side is an education in itself.
Those giving Mr. LeBlanc shit over raising the caution alarm here should really reconsider. Getting it right is important. Repeating past mistakes isn’t a luxury that can be indulged on this side of things.
Did anybody catch this slip From the beginning of the video?
“That March coming ahead of today’s visit by first Lady Joe Biden?
That group are probably shot thorough with FBI and even CIA informants. It’s like a movie scripted event.
The alleged leader of patriots front, 21 years old, was with the fellow who crashed into people at Charlottesville. WITH, accompanying.
This “patriot front” go around taking picture of themselves vandalizing public property with their designs. Where I live, we pick up after our dogs and do not deface our public property. If that’s too much to ask let them go into the ghettos and see if their mark can be discerned from among dozens of other gangs.
They have recently suddenly (suspiciously) been raised in profile by media. The media clearly anticipate this group will used as a white effigy. And they will be. They are going to march, with the fasces on their flags, their plastic riot shields and torches right onto the front pages. Do you think they will find their way there because their message has found purchase among the public?
Ha! What is their message anyway? I seriously contemplated whether the rants on their website were autogenerated. Its every sentence is in an energetic active tense, and has a chatbot’s strategic and philosophical depth.
It’s not about optics. There is no doubt they are of most value for domestic police agencies, eager and starved for white villains. There is real doubt in my mind as to whose tools they are – knowingly or unknowingly. They may be disciplined but so are the police agencies. The police can and do send individuals who the young Patriot Front sorts will respect.
I’m not a leader or a great mind. But it doesn’t take a genius to anticipate where this is going.
“PF appear to provide a decent template for that.”
Does that include their online membership application template? https://patriotfront.us/join/
Here’s a thought experiment: Look at their manifesto and imagine someone posted it under “Why do you want to join?”. Other than the connection between nationhood and blood, it looks like Rorschach test.
While not as brazen as the rhetoric of the erstwhile leader of Oathkeepers – an FBI provocateur – it is generic. I doubt you’ll find a fed who could discuss how the dialectical frames of the left have subverted conservatism, but you’ll find many who could bang out a ‘manifesto’ of this sort: https://patriotfront.us/manifesto/
I’m no shill for PF. I just wonder, if young men must do something, is PF the least harmful option? That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be suspicious or cautious. Maybe you’re right, PF is just an alphabet agency-engineered trap to cull young unsuspecting men from our ranks. Or maybe it’s legitimate and it’s building a community that could have some positive influence. I’m not sure your links to their application or manifesto prove a nefarious etiology.
I imagine their overt demonstrations and street action are considered gauche by the more cerebral audience of C-C. But PF isn’t geared toward most readers here. I think the movement is stronger if we offer different entry points for different skill sets. If PF is as disciplined as the Philly march suggested, they may be a healthy outlet for the less intellectually inclined.
Personally, I’m willing to wait and see before reflexively writing off PF.
I think the ability harness and direct the inevitable waves of youthful impatience into positive guerrilla style activism is far better than leaving it to the whim of an isolated youngster or Federal instigators.
Wether Patriot Front is up to the task remains to be seen. They’ve demonstrated great discipline and OpSec, but police contact should always be regarded as a serious tactical blunder.
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