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Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 580
On Dealing with the Decline of the White World with Millennial Woes & Morgoth
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The second half of our latest livestream was a continuation of the Ask Me Anything with Millennial Woes (official website here) and Morgoth (Substack, Odysee), focusing particularly on the issue of how dissidents can deal with the decline of the white world. It is now available for download and online listening.
Topics discussed include:
00:00:32 On the ship that crashed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge
00:07:38 The diminishing returns of Western military and technological dominance
00:13:59 Migration dynamics: economic necessity or cultural shift?
00:36:35 The alarming transformation of British villages
00:39:03 If you had to leave Britain, where would you go?
00:46:07 On banning TikTok in the United States
00:52:35 Will zoomers be able to change things for the better?
00:58:18 Woke has been around forever
01:01:23 On the balkanization of the US
01:11:54 What can zoomers do to help out?
01:14:15 Thoughts on moving abroad
01:15:52 Western democracy has become the tyranny of minorities
01:18:06 On gardening
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Another example of our declining abilities: the US built the transcontinental railroad – 1900 miles over and through mountains and barren wilderness – in only 6 years in the 1800s. Meanwhile, in today’s Washington State, the local passenger rail, last I checked, was decades late, billions over budget, and had only laid 21 miles of track, despite modern technology and infrastructure. We put a man on the moon in less than 8 years, from Kennedy’s announcement to the Moon landing. As for the bridge itself, it was built in 5 years, and was the second-longest continuous-truss bridge in the world. There’s no way it’ll be rebuilt in less than a decade.
As for the claim that we need migrants to solve the labor shortage, it’s completely backwards. More migrants actually exacerbate the labor shortage, because there’s already a glut of unskilled laborors, and any shortage exists in skilled labor, whose services are continually stretched to the breaking point by all the migrants. In other words, the migrants worsen the labor shortage by further unbalancing the skill distribution in society. The only economic “benefit”, if you can call it that, is to further depress the wages of low-skilled workers, thus benefiting their employers. And then you wonder why young English people don’t see these entry-level jobs, with artificially depressed wages, as viable.
We must implement the Orania rule in our societies: if we don’t do it ourselves, then it doesn’t get done. Western societies have been undone again and again by the quest for cheap, foreign labor.
Excellent show. On the closeout, in America, the blacks in America have long ago decided, “not my system.” First they rejected our legal system and the law enforcement arm of it, which is in effect rejecting the entire society. For, the foundational part of society, particularly an Anglo-Saxon society is law and order, a citizen judiciary and a strong and even harsh penal system.
Now, they are embracing it and calling it our great country, because they sense, rightly, that it being their country is now in their grasp. So, America is at the forefront of a minority that rejects the society. We also have it in things like Jewish criminals getting lighter sentences if they claim religious piety and get a rabbi to sponsor them. I think Catholics have followed suit. I know personally a J psychopath
So, America long ago passed the point where minorities, ethnic and religious, reject the system for their benefit. The deteriation is only just beginning. Once Occidental Man has his rude awakening, it will completely unravel.
Again great show. We must focus on the reitereated theme of men focusing on deep knowledge and skills above all. To the extent we are political it needs to be in the domain of ethnic and cultural networking so we can catch our folk when they have that rude awakening.
I one more thing to eliminate here. This is in regard to the amazing 90’s. In Occidental Man’s music of the youth you can see the expression of something gone horribly wrong.
First is Seattle Grunge. If you look at grunge it really started in the early 80s with Chris Cornell having many many bands. What was Seattle. It was a quiet town based on industry, a port and timber, with aerospace and Boeing having a footprint. However, the working class was attacked by the California hippy environmentalist and I see Grunge as the voice of despair – one of the first overt cries of the working class white man experiencing his dispossession. I say that because I went to Seattle in the late 90s when Microsoft had gone from a few white guys in a garage to a behemoth and experienced the remnant of the old white working class on the last legs of being pushed out. It was then that I realized Cornell had felt this and in his own intuitive but uncebral way created an entire genre of music to express that despair. Of course that was also concentrated as the end of the era where local culture grew in isolation.
Similarly, you see it it the song Aenema by Tool. MJK just rips out a scathing refutation of the degeneracy, hypocrisy of the emerging BoBo class that was already tramp stamping itself. Give it a listen. It is all true and I felt it as being in LA at that time. Now imagine in 2024. Crazy.
One other amazing but more modern witness to the dispossession of the Englishman is Sikth’s “The Future In Whose Eyes.” Give it a listen and check out the poetry. I don’t think they grock the politics of what happened, but they clearly understood their dispossession. By whom and why they probably don’t know if I could guess based on videos and interviews. But, their subconscious spewed it out. That is a great album.
Okay. Cheers.
Interesting comment. I am tired of the grunge disrespectors in our circles. If white power music could do as much with limited resources as Nirvana, we’d be closer to the ethnostate. Cornell and Cobain were among the few people in the 90s who pierced my total indifference to new pop music post about 1986, when I really started getting into classical music.
I have been thinking of doing a review of Sikth’s “The Future In Whose Eyes.” If I did that and sent you a draft would you consider publishing it if you like it? I think it is one of those pieces of art that functions as unintended documentary. It is Englishmen bearing witness to their dispossession by financial elites. I would like to expand my understanding of that album and share it if it proves interesting.
Regarding Woes comment early before Morgoth (part 1), multiculturalism always resolves to hard totalitarianism. Soft totalitarianism isn’t an option. Soft totalitarianism is what we call ‘freedom’. The Founding Fathers of the USA established a relatively free society because there was a lot they could take for granted–for instance, the country wasn’t multicultural. Those granted traits–social, racial, mythological, implicit commons–constitute an organic totalitarian substructure, a genuine organic constitution, allowing political latitude on secondaries like speech and press, and even religion, if what’s Caesar’s is rendered to Caesar.
If we’re totalitarian in our genetics and our Western historical narrative (that narrative which serves our genetic survival), we needn’t be totalitarian about anything further downstream.
Millennial Woes, praying for Trump to get in to “enable America to continue for longer”, well, if Trump gets in he will again not do what is necessary to reclaim/save USA & Americans will relax more because they believe their man is in. Isn’t that the problem, not doing anything while our invasion & conquest is accelerating, more of our people are being attacked, raped, killed, murdered? At least with Biden the treason accelerates & as mentioned this is unsustainable. Everybody knows that the White House occupier does not run the country, translation – we’re not going to vote ourselves out of this blatant betrayal. Secession is a good start beginning with forming our own communities. About a month ago Trump said if elected he will deport all illegal criminals. His presidency proved how weak a leader he is & that he does not understand why America became a rich nation, therefore, does not know what is the formula in making America great again. Neither do his supporters as they cheered when he said he will deport all illegal criminals, when in fact for starters, he needs to deport all illegals.
1John wrote:
>> At least with Biden the treason accelerates & as mentioned this is unsustainable. <<
It hasn’t been shown by edgy podcasters or anyone else that any kind of Accelerationism is going to lead to an epiphany.
I agree that the system is unsustainable, but think that collapse will lead to unmitigated disaster, and not the opportunity or outcome that we want.
I also don’t put any hope in Trump. He was a weak leader before ─ good for little beyond triggering Libtards.
However, one thing that Trump did do and will do better than Biden is judicial appointments. That is going to be very important when the System wants to put you into the Gulag for spreading “It’s Okay to be White” leaflets.
It seems to me that White Nationalists are going to have to be a lot better organized and networked than they ever have been. It is still possible to fight with well-strategized Lawfare. But a few more Commie justices and no cigar.
Sure, Whitey can boycott joining the military ─ and even the police department after both Minneapolis and the FEDs crucified police officer Derek Chauvin who simply tried to arrest St. George Floyd while he overdosed on his stash in the course of resisting arrest, the System actually calling it a murder in true Orwellian fashion. (Inmate Chauvin has already been stabbed 22 times in prison.)
But is White insularity or asceticism really going to make the streets safer?
This is the difference between protecting your own homes and neighborhoods and getting dungeoned for the rest of your life like the McMichaels, who caught a trespasser ─ who then chimped out and forced one of them to shoot him in self-defense. Even the guy filming this Diversity encounter while waiting for the police to arrive was sentenced to lifetime imprisonment (except in his case with the possibility of parole after thirty years).
Sorry, but the idea that things will be better with Biden remaining in office is just dumb. Lawfare is today far more important than it ever was.
I can remember (1979) when some Klansmen were picketing the usual suspects and were attacked by Communists at Greensboro, NC. The WN good guys were forced to unlock their guns from the trunk of their car and then kill five of them. The good guys were acquitted.
That is what we have lost.
Like Kyle Rittenhouse, the Klanspeople were acquitted because they acted in self-defense, and the legal system then did not automatically try to pervert justice as in the Chauvin and McMichaels cases. Of course, if Kyle had not missed “Jump Kick Man” (a Negro who wisely scampered away after being fired upon when assaulting Kyle) the outcome for Mr. Rittenhouse likely would have ended much like it did with officer Chauvin or the McMichaels.
The regime today wants to reverse who is acting in self-defense. You are guilty of a Hate Crime just for thinking the wrong things.
And Thoughtcrime is Death.
But hey, go ahead and support Joe if you want. But it ain’t gonna help White Nationalists.
🙂
Scott,
Central to our predicament is a low ingroup preference. Nothing wakes people up like a firsthand experience. Collectivizing increases with worsening conditions because little overrides our survival instincts. Question: do you not agree that our low ingroup preference moves towards the high when our survival (especially that of our children) is threatened?
I don’t know. I can imagine things pretty bad, and with little or no change in “in-group preference,” whatever that means. The analysis itself sounds simplistic and Libertarian to me, and therefore flawed.
Plus, we have no shortage of Groupthink making malign social policy and often holding us back or otherwise retarding real progress. I don’t think our problem is that we are or are not collectivist enough, nor overly individualistic. That just doesn’t capture what is going on in my opinion ─ although maybe it makes a good talking point for edgy podcasters going on about materialism and technology. Ludditism is fashionable talk, but most would not make it a fortnight.
Nearly fifty years ago I watched the aftermath of the Teton Dam break and a wall of water slam into prosperous rural towns. Parts of SE Idaho became a war-zone with Army helicopters everywhere. It did not become every-man-for-himself, but then it wasn’t that way before the disaster. Many of the people had a year’s worth of food storage in their homes, and they freely shared it with neighbors whose homes were flooded and even went floating away. Supposedly the Red Cross was impressed by the community spirit and local organization.
My Grandparents were replete with stories about how they survived the Great Depression ─ and many people have been expecting the next big one ever since wages stopped keeping up with inflation in 1968.
As a kid I watched movies like Soylent Green and the Omega Man and I generally enjoy the dystopia genre. But each year I am surprised at how degenerate things actually get that were unimaginable just a decade or two earlier.
I have always been somewhat interested in survivalist-oriented fare, but I don’t have any illusions. What I really hate are the “learned helplessness” themes like the 1983 nuclear war movie The Day After.
Anyway, collapsed societies don’t automatically reorder themselves. And nothing is ever a substitute for good leadership.
I’d rather have less-Woke with Trump than more-Woke with Biden. It is not much but it is a distinction worth the difference.
🙂
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