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Lipton Matthews over at Taki’s Magazine is giving White Nationalists some advice, and I think we’d better sit up and listen. In his essay “Cultural Whiteness,” he tells us we should stop being White Nationalists and instead view whiteness as a “philosophy of progress.” In other words, we should push for a society that is “culturally white,” but racially not so much. With such an attitude adjustment, according to Matthews, White Nationalists would be able to include many worthy non-whites under our big, white umbrella, and then, with sufficient funding, begin our long march back through the institutions towards the great, shining non-white white ethnostate we all dream of.
If you haven’t figured this out by now, he’s basically selling us stale old civic nationalism while keeping the tincture of race in the branding to help it go down smooth. He’s sort of like a Boy Scout showing up at your door and attempting to sell you a candy bar by sharing its nutritional information.
His proposition is silly on its face and reveals a gaping hole in his understanding of White Nationalism and White Nationalists. On the other hand, since he seems to agree with some of the premises of White Nationalism and doesn’t condemn us outright, he deserves a serious response as well as some advice in return.
Matthews starts out by justifying the need for white identity and discussing the double standard that allows non-whites — but not whites — to act in their racial interests. He argues that even if non-whites were merely protecting themselves within an inherently racist society, this double standard is still wrong. We are all tribal creatures with the right of association. Whites should be able to protect and celebrate the culture they and their ancestors created — that is, Western civilization, the greatest and most progressive civilization in history. “It is preposterous to acknowledge the rights of other races to celebrate their culture but chastise whites for doing so,” Matthews informs us.
Okay, so far so good. This is as fine a place as any to start one’s epic journey to Whitemanistan — although it is quite precious that Matthews feels the need to prove that non-whites form up along racial lines and beat their chests a bit. You know, as if there were any doubt. He offers the Chinese Consolidated Benevolent Association as an example just in case any of this stuff has slipped past the oblivious White Nationalists he hopes make up his readership.
He then reaches a crescendo in his fourth paragraph:
If white Americans were to start a group to ameliorate the conditions of working-class whites, without a doubt charges of racism would be leveled against them. Unfortunately, the dehumanization of white people has support across the political spectrum. Suggesting that all races apart from whites can have interests is to rob them of agency, thus relegating them to a subhuman state. As such, white nationalism has never been more relevant.
Hey, hey! Now we’re cooking with oil. Did Taki form a secret pact with Greg Johnson that we don’t know about? Was Taki’s daughter bowled over by The White Nationalist Manifesto and is now steering the site in a bold new direction? Is Taki’s Magazine now actually promoting White Nationalism?
Yeah, well, about that. Here’s where Matthews takes his inevitable Left turn and veers away from anything truly dangerous. Not that I blame him, of course. I presume he’s using his real name, while I certainly am not. That being said, however, Matthews argues himself into a hole he cannot easily climb out of. Instead, he scrambles uselessly in the dirt while explaining how, in the face of the aggressive anti-white tribalism, whites should just abandon whiteness as a biological fact and embrace it as a concept so that other races can embrace it as well. How any of this would be good for white people in the long run is anyone’s guess.
First we have this advice:
White nationalists in America should not see themselves as a vanguard of a local white nationalist movement, but rather defenders of the Western intellectual tradition of which America is the greatest exponent.
Way ahead of you there, boss. We’re kind of already doing that. Check out Richard Houck’s “The Hierarchy of Culture” for a good primer on this.
You can buy Spencer J. Quinn’s novel Charity’s Blade here.
Then Matthews endeavors once again to prove the obvious, bless his heart:
Western culture is indeed unique. As historian Toby Huff illustrates in his book Intellectual Curiosity and the Scientific Revolution: A Global Perspective, many places had brilliant thinkers, but only the West was dynamic enough to produce sustained intellectual revolutions that fundamentally transformed the globe.
Yeah, thanks. We know this already. One wonders if Matthews would be even more impressed with white people after reading The Uniqueness of Western Civilization by Counter-Currents contributor Ricardo Duchesne. Then, after admitting that the West is a “predominantly white civilization” (thank you for that), Matthews lowers the boom:
Some white nationalists envision a white ethnostate, but this is an exercise in futility. White Americans are not very ethnocentric, so there will always be white people who are willing to violate the rules of the white ethnostate to accommodate other races.
Where to begin? First of all, if you’re going to poo-poo something that most of your readership takes dead earnest, you’d better come armed with something a little heftier than two sentences. Otherwise, you might appear a bit, shall we say, shallow. A 400-page book entitled Why All White Nationalists are Losers complete with footnotes, index, and a ten-page bibliography would preferable to this. Matthews should peruse Ron Unz’s “The Bankruptcy of White Nationalism” if he cares to do more than just dabble with this sensitive topic.
Secondly, to prove that whites are not very ethnocentric, I was hoping he would link Kevin MacDonald’s Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition, but instead we get a Pew Research article which is really about high levels of black ethnocentrism. But it does feature a graph that shows that only fifteen percent of American whites see that race is a major part of their identity (as opposed to much larger percentages from other races).
What Matthews doesn’t mention is that, since whites are vindictively penalized these days for expressing any kind of pro-white racial awareness, they have motivation to lie to pollsters. Why tell a stranger what you really think when such an admission could cost you your career? There’s a good chance that this percentage is higher than what we are seeing here. Despite its multitude of flaws, the data in Ashley Jardina’s White Identity Politics actually support this notion. Further, we should always remind ourselves that white ethnocentrism was much stronger in the past and is unfairly maligned today. Given how traffic to sites like Counter-Currents has risen dramatically in the last year (despite a spate of deplatformings and loss of its credit card processor), it looks like it’s beginning to rebound.
Matthews also mentions “the rules of the white ethnostate.” Rules? What rules? Does he presume that a white ethnostate must be one hundred percent white? Where does he get this from? And why does he suppose there can only be one white ethnostate? All historic white ethnostates in the past two centuries, to some degree or another, accommodated racial or ethnic minorities (or majorities, in the case of Apartheid South Africa). The antebellum South allowed for freed slaves. Jews were afforded a semblance of normalcy in Nazi Germany before England and France declared war. The Indian presence in England stretches back to the mid-nineteenth century. Do I have to go through a case-by-case basis to demonstrate how far off the mark Matthews is with his?
Yes, there will always be whites who have some affinity for non-whites, and there will always be non-whites who have something to offer a white ethnostate. Greg Johnson does a nice job threading this needle in his essay “Ninety Percent White Nationalism.” We can have a small amount of racial diversity and still have an ethnostate. In fact, Johnson has a name for what Matthews is proposing: “Normative homogeneity.” What Lipton Matthews is really arguing here is not that a white ethnostate shouldn’t be formed, but that it would be difficult to form.
Well, what worthwhile isn’t?
Finally, Matthews doesn’t follow through with his logic, and, whether he realizes it or not, ends up dropping the ball in the endzone when he should have been spiking it. He states that Western civilization is “superior to other cultures.” He also states that Western civilization is a “predominantly white civilization.” So, does this mean that white people are superior to non-whites when it comes to building civilizations? It would seem so. And if so, wouldn’t it stand to reason that allowing large numbers of non-whites into a white civilization would make that civilization less superior? Again, it would seem so — and this is supported by the high rates of crime, corruption, poverty, and unemployment in places like Detroit, Washington, DC, Chicago, Camden, and many other places which were much nicer when they were whiter. But Matthews doesn’t even address such natural questions, perhaps because to do so honestly would undermine his civic nationalist, pan-racialist agenda. For whatever reason, he wants to secure a place for non-whites in a white society and has contrived a few incomplete and superficial syllogisms aimed at talking White Nationalists into abandoning their racial interests. In one of these, he even argues that “a culturally white society is a benefit for all racial groups,” as if this should be a selling point for whites. Right. Like how non-whites constantly talk about protecting the racial interests of whites.
Either Lipton Matthews is incredibly audacious or incredibly naïve. Probably the latter.
In any case, it’s nice that he lacks the typical normie rancor when assessing White Nationalism, but he still belies the typical normie ignorance. He doesn’t understand that when a group of people is being threatened by hostile outsiders, the besieged party should strengthen its common identity, not weaken it. Identity is an element of survival — and what identity runs deeper than race? If all white people were to dilute their identity in the manner Lipton Matthews suggests, then he should forget about ever attaining the cultural whiteness he describes — because all the white people would be gone.
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“All historic white ethnostates in the past two centuries, to some degree or another, accommodated racial or ethnic minorities (or majorities, in the case of Apartheid South Africa).”
That was then, this is now. Having tasted supremacy over Whites in the repugnant dystopia that is the modern-day US, non-Whites would not be content with a subordinate position in a White ethnostate. If by the grace of God the creation of one or more White ethnostates is achieved at some future date, the presence of non-Whites should be extremely restricted. In fact, the only non-Whites whose presence should be allowed are those who demonstrated themselves to be loyal friends to Whites and as a consequence became unable to subsist among their kind. And even in these cases, they should not be granted citizenship but only residency contingent on continued exemplary behavior. As for their offspring, they should be encouraged to emigrate upon reaching adulthood, with any more distant descendants being required to do so.
Any who may find this too harsh should be mindful of the definition and purpose of a White ethnostate. Not too long ago, the United States was 90 percent White and Canada even Whiter. Nothing could be more foolish than allowing a future White ethnostate to follow their same path of transformation into a “diversity” zoo.
I see they don’t have comments over on Taki. God, I miss the days when you could just outright refute a Yahoo news article in the comments.
Did you notice they also did away with comments to reviews on Amazon? Why would they do that? You can still say what you think in the reviews for the most part. “They” are trying to break up our communications as much as possible!
Getting rid of the comments section allows them to publish some truly half-witted stuff with zero blowback.
Being unable to challenge ideas and add depth to the concept makes it infinitely less interesting in the first place. Greg Johnson was very gracious in his debate with me in the CC comments section on a subject where we strongly disagree. Greg is still wrong and I am still right, of course, but he was man enough to hear me out. Respect. 🙂
I started reading Taki’s mag post removal of the comments. I think there is a comment section but it’s reserved for people who donate. Not sure though. It’d be nice to chat with fellow Takimag readers. I’d pay $10k to join a Passover seder with David Cole and a cadre of your typical liberal subversive Jews.
I think Civic Nationalism could work within the context of what Lipton Matthews is talking about if the country is at least 80% white. I think he has the naivete that I had back before I transversed the libertarian to alt-right pipeline. It’s a hard pill to swallow that race is real. Once the white population got below 80% began the slippery slope to where we are now. Look at what’s happening in the country. The founding myth of the country and the people part of that founding myth are held with utter contempt and disdain. The rhetoric now would be completely unacceptable within the cultural milieu of the 90s. However, with more minorities in positions of power as the population of white has decreased, the anti-white rhetoric has become more acceptable.
Guess what: the US was over 80 percent White a generation ago and civic nationalism was its creed. The process of trying to assimilate those unassimilable 19 or 15 percent will inevitably destroy a nation. It hardly needs to be explained why since we are living through that process right now, but the fact is that in order to—futilely—get non-Whites to fit in, every institution ends up being prostituted to that cause. Education standards plunge to try to create equal results for them, government and corporations hire them in preference to qualified Whites, all media are enlisted in the push for “equality” for them, and so on. It’s surprising that even among readers of a website like this one Americans can’t accept the obvious truth that the American idea is fundamentally wrong. You cannot build a nation around a civic creed, only around a common ancestry.
And you know Lipton Matthews is black, right?
Hi Ray,
Yes, I am aware of this. But because Matthews kept his own race out of his essay, I felt that I should respect that and do the same. Of course, his race is fair game for you since you are a reader, free to draw your own conclusions.
Thanks.
A black guy subtly attempting to defang White Nationalism without mentioning his race is like me saying Gamestop stock is a terrible investment while not disclosing the fact I’m currently shorting it, he’s lying by omission.
I always balked at the assertion that whiteness be at the forefront of the fightback.
I feel you could do an end run around the obvious backlash this would cause by promoting the idea of a demos. Few can argue against real, participatory, first-hand democracy, and those who do can inevitably and easily be demonized as sneering, haughty, holier than thou elitists. Why shouldn’t the people who pay the bills call the shots, for example? And what Leftist, seeing who was inside the demos, wish to join? It’d be self-selecting by definition.
To combat the coercion, corruption and domination of the many by the few, you need to get ordinary people to see themselves as part of a larger group and willing to submit to personal, short-term sacrifices in order to achieve collective, long-term success. One doesn’t mind higher taxes so much, for example, if one knows (a) they’re temporary, and (b) one can see them being spent on the school two streets over, or on the potholes in one’s own road.
Hyper individualism, though, in the eform that it exists today, especially when coupled with the collapse of trust, is civically cancerous. That’s fundamentaly why nothing changes, because dissidents think and act individually whereas the establishment thinks and acts collectively.
All this is easy to say but hard to do, of course. I, for example, am still not sure that Lipton Matthews is even real, but there you go.
(Can I just point out that paragraphing and the HTML tags don’t seem to be working… )
Attributes just don’t render correctly in the previews, but are fine when published. We are working on it.
Don’t think you are being fair to Lipton Matthews’s argument. I understand you are relying on a short article. He has other articles out there, a few in American Renaissance. Matthews needs to explain what he means by “cultural nationalism”, but my sense is that he means more than civic nationalism. I certainly do, and sometimes I also advocate cultural nationalism, both classical liberal values AND Western culture, languages, history, religion, symbols, writers, heritage, and ethnicity. Imagine our schools framing their curriculum in Western cultural terms, and our politicians expressing love and dedication to this heritage? It would go a long way in the protection of the civilization whites created.
Lipton is very well read about the West and has read my book. I noticed this in an interview/conversation we had last week, posted in TOQ.
Dear Mr. Duchesne,
I think the bigger issue here is about white Europeans enjoying their own lands and heritage and cultures and doing so in exclusively white European ethnostates. So it’s not just about insisting on the teaching and promotion of Western values to everyone currently living in the West. That can be done without Europeans. We learn about ancient Persian culture without the true Persians around anymore.
In my opinion, Spencer Quinn did a fine (and fun) job addressing Mr. Matthews’ shortcomings w/r/t White Nationalism. In Mr. Matthews’ recent Taki’s article (and in other articles elsewhere), he does indeed promote the idea that a *predominately* white U.S. is enough, and that is the main of civic nationalism. It took me a long time to get here, but I now disagree with that general idea. I cannot count how many non-whites in California I met and worked with who love, love, love the U.S.A. and Western culture generally (they really do!) but they don’t like whites. I don’t want to live and work side by side anymore with people (even highly educated ones) who hate my race but wish to enjoy the benefits my race created (never mind their faulty logic). I’ve come to resent these foreigners right back, and it’s uncomfortable living like this. There is a better, more harmonious way to live.
I’d like to see the promotion of Western values (and “classical liberal values” aren’t the main of it) all around the world, but what is more important to me is the preservation and proliferation of the race that created “Western Civilization.” I want us to thrive, flourish, be prosperous and be physically safe from the divisive and destructive envy and resentment of non-Europeans. This is first and foremost on my mind. It’s not just about the survival and sharing of our cultural values, and especially heritage American values. Anyone can attempt to “do” Western values –but should do so in their own homelands, not ours.
I hope I did not misinterpret your point in the comment section, Mr. Duchesne. I enjoy your writings because you are civil and erudite and you bring another perspective to the table, which I always like to consider and weigh. I will look forward to more of your work here, even if I sometimes disagree.
Mr. Duchesne, though you are undoubtedly the towering genius amongst us, Matthews does make some serious missteps here that call for a response.
Matthews’ blithely states — as if it’s a self-evident truth — that the “heritage of Western civilization if the property of humanity” — To which one can respond, “Really?”
Matthews also states that a culturally white society is a benefit for all racial groups — And though this is perhaps true it misses the point about whose interests WE ought to be principally concerned with.
Matthews also promotes the fuzzy concept of “globalized human rights,” which very much DOES venture into the territory of neoconservative civic nationalist claptrap, in my opinion.
Matthews also strangely states that white nationalists must gladly accept the labeling of Western culture as white — as if we didn’t already do that or needed his encouragement!
I like Matthews’ notion that we should equate whiteness with a philosophy of progress but disagree about what the implementation of such belief would entail. We are not merely interested in defending Western culture or the Western intellectual tradition but rather the genetic/ethno-racial basis of both. THAT is the major point here that can only be overlooked at the expense of our own complete civilizational demise.
Hi DM,
I agree with your points. Thank you.
It is sad however to think that the best thing about Matthews is his franker-than-average civic nationalism and his civil tone. The latter should be a given, but these days, it isn’t. So Matthews gets points for playing nice with us.
And on further reflection, he is in many ways better than many mainstream civnat pundits because he’s at least offering us a solution rather than telling us to pound sand. Yes, it’s 49% solution, and therefore unworkable and unacceptable. But still, if all civnats were as civil as Lipton Matthews we’d be in a better place than we are in now.
In reply to Desert Flower and Dissident Millennial: For those who may not know, and since Quinn does not bring this point, Lipton Matthews is a Jamaican who lives in Jamaica. I guess my claim boils down to this: imagine a politician, academic, school, newspaper in America announcing that we should promote “cultural whiteness” — this would be a huge challenge to the establishment, far beyond any talk about civic nationalism. He is identifying Western high culture with whiteness, and calling upon whites to see it as their heritage and to fight for it. He also says that “humanity” should appreciate the high culture of the West rather than joining the chorus against it. The West does have universal insights, it developed a proper method for the revelation and employment of the powers of nature, this is why all other cultures have adopted Western science, including many legal-political-educational institutions. Whites invented schools, now they exist everywhere. Having said this, I agree that whites must remain a very sizable majority in their own nations if the West is to survive.
The problem is, I cannot even find one other White Nationalist in the entirety of Los Angeles County to even share an apartment with, where I can freely display my hundreds of ‘White racial discussion’ books, and where we can live in a majority White neighborhood, other than Beverly Hills. I live in a swamp of White Democrats, with whom I cannot ‘expose my true identity’. I have no idea how to get enough of us together for a ‘White Ethnostate’. though I’m hanging in here, and see no other path for my deeply-held beliefs in White European Civilization.
Los Angeles, city and county, is the best example of what happens when Whites accept diversity in all its glory. First, Blacks pushed Whites out of lovely neighborhoods built in the 1920’s at the city core, now known as South Central L.A., the center of crime and disturbances for years. Whites moved to the suburbs of the San Gabriel Valley and San Fernando Valley, and then the influx of the other race of rancor, the Hispanics, moved to those locations as well, while also pushing Blacks out of Watts and Compton (!), clear out to the deserts. And so it continues. We are a large group still, but scattered in myriads of enclaves, with no cohesiveness whatsoever. This is the problem we must overcome. But as I said, I cannot even find a roommate, let alone a discussion group, and forget about peaceful conferences. Any ideas?
Dear Alexandra,
You are not alone in Los Angeles. There are others. But it’s hard to connect with others (who can you trust?) and California is a very, very lonely place to live openly if you are White *and* not on the political bandwagon. All I can suggest is to leave the state (heartbreaking, I know, as I’ve had to do it and it makes me sad and angry because I love Yosemite, Sequoia, Joshua Tree, Santa Barbara, the beaches, and the wine country).
BTW, it’s my understanding that most of the state went to Trump in this last election. You won’t hear that in the MSM, but I think it’s true. I don’t think it’s whites who voted for him, though. Beverly Hills was 100% pro-Trump, but BH is no longer predominately white. (I used to live 3 blocks from the Beverly Center.)
Good luck to you.
I’m in Los Angeles, Alexandra (although I’m looking at leaving in a year or two if I can). I honestly have no clue how to build “the parallel white community,” although they certainly exist in virtual spaces. Perhaps enough racially-confident whites in a locality will be able to push non-whites away from a place by simply making them uncomfortable enough to leave?
I think more investigation as to how the races segregate virtually could lead to some productive insights here.
I grew up in the San Fernando Valley and lived in the San Gabriel Valley for many years and I can hardly recognize them anymore. SFV is completely changed. I am in Kansas City these days in the northland area that is a mostly white enclave. Yet there remains the underlying downward spiral that comes with the usual mixing. Even my son’s high school is getting caught up in the racial preening we are growing so tired of already. There really is no escape unless you are willing to isolate in Montana or someplace north of here. Places where heat seekers don’t dare to tread. LA used to be a moderately conservative city. Sadly, not any longer.
I’m reposting part of a comment I left yesterday on another post, but which is directly applicable to your situation (and to some extent mine):
“I still think there is immense potential in the creation of some kind of dues-paying American Nationalist League, which itself could, among other purposes, then subsidize prowhite internet publications, with something like CC being at the intellectual top, followed by the somewhat more middlebrow AR, followed by some basic prowhite news and discussion site for the masses. Prowhites, and even just mainstream Trumpists, all over the country are, I think, starved for real life interactions with the likeminded, but have no secure and probable way to discover each other. There needs to be an America First civnat mass membership group started, under whose aegis and radar white nats could also meet up and organize. We cannot stay on the internet forever. We need America First “community organizers”, such organizing to eventually become openly prowhite as times become more auspicious.”
I have a lot of ideas on this, and have mentioned some of them here in comments in the past, but frankly, no one ever showed this concept much interest. Indeed, I’m still not 100% certain that “white nationalism” is truly something other than a discussion venue for high IQ white dissidents. We should be political strategizing at least as much as contemplating abstruse philosophy, or doing prowhite takes on fiction or film. Time is running out.
LS,
Have you put together a white paper for your proposition and presented it to either Greg Johnson, Jared Taylor, or Kevin MacDonald? Perhaps start small, in a certain location where we know we’d face the least resistance. Come up with a proposed budget, timelines, long and short term goals, etc. Model it after the ADL: “Anti-white racism may start with whites, but it does not end with whites.”
Maybe something like this can get the ball rolling for us.
Dear Lord Shang,
Regarding your last paragraph: I am concerned about that as well. White Nationalism should not just be an intellectual exercise. It should be organization and action, too. (That said, the best I can do right now is to discreetly share things like Mr. Johnson’s Manifesto–you know, the intellectual side!)
I hope you (and others) can get something going. And it would be hilarious if a WN organization was intentionally modeled on the missions and practices of ADL, La Raza, NAACP, NALEO, etc. At least in the beginning, so when they complain–and they most certainly will– WN can throw it back at them. And then proceed unapologetically.
I hope we never ever forget that whites (and more specifically, heritage Americans) have the high moral ground in the U.S. (just as British and French Canadians do in Canada). We never have to justify our presence on the North American continent. Everyone else does.
That should be the baseline of the WN movement in the U.S. : “no apologies.” And we should work closely with our cousins in Canada. There’s a lot of seriously concerned white people there, too (not that pseudo intellectual Jordan Peterson–he’s quite happy with the current racial and ethnic arrangements as long as he doesn’t have to call a man a “womyn”).
My last comment: I hope a formal WN organization is nothing like the “America First” movement. AF does not address the main issue concerning whites and it seems to be a social thing for immature males (young and old). It’s often very silly. I could never take it seriously and would be embarrassed to be a part if it. Even if very young people join us in great numbers (one hopes!), WN must never devolve into antics. Humor is fun and much needed, but silliness is a poor substitute for substance. AF just doesn’t get that.
Of course, LA is probably the worst from the standpoint of diversity but I have seen the same damn thing in the SF area and north over the last +30 years. Indeed, Atlanta suburbs, even NYC suburbs and other suburbs around the country have suffered from the plague of enrichment. In White suburbs though it’s mostly Pajeets and Chinese, not blacks/hispanics who do the enrichment.
I am fortunate to live now in the NE U.S. in still overwhelmingly White areas but the U.S. Government and its beneficial owners have plans for us too, no doubt. White areas, particularly prosperous areas give White people the luxury of pretending that everything is OK but there is an underlying trend of anxiety about the future nevertheless. Women with young children seem to be amenable to arguments about White disenfranchisement from my experience but the bad diversity programming is indeed still strong.
I am also interested in Matthews’ comment: “If white Americans were to start a group [presumably a charitable NGO] to ameliorate the conditions of working-class whites [presumably our long-lost ‘redneck’ cousins], then without a doubt charges of racism would be leveled against them.”
Well, I say ‘Who cares, bring it on’. I think this is a splendid idea. It would give Counter Currents a ‘charitable edge’ in the NGO community, which now seems to be nearly 90% run by leftist ‘poor me, sob-story sisters’ for every other ‘poor starving baby’ on the planet other than our own. This can be pointed out statistically to our detractors.
This is open for discussion, of course — anyone living in or near White communities that are ‘down on their luck’ should feel free to chime in as to how we can do this. Certainly it might be a way to get our message out to our people who might never otherwise know of our existence.
I struggled to find ways to offer direct assistance (clothing, food) to just whites who are in temporary need and are neglected by the welfare system and by all the charities which now give priority attention to non-whites in California.
I donated so many things and I could not place “for whites only” on any of the boxes but that’s to whom I wanted my things to go! I wanted to share with other heritage Americans who may be struggling right now. No doubt my donations all went to illegals, Hispanics, and blacks in the Los Angeles area.
Start a sports league for sone sort of national game. Hurling, lawn bowling, boule… It will attract ethnics from a subset of whites. Also start a church.
One thing that will attract only whites will be a society of creative anachronism for ancient Greece where you’re forced to learn Ancient Greek while learning how to fight like a Hoplite.
Hilarious!
Well it’s known that classical music drives minorities away. Could it be played in some subliminal fashion (a dog whistle!) to drive them away without them knowing why they were leaving? Kind of a gentle mind weapon in Ragnarok type thing. Of course we’d be working on other more potent mantric weapon a la Dune.
Stop the compromises. Whites need their own nations, even if takes ages. No apologies to our supposed allies or our haters. We’re for ourselves, ourselves alone.
The more they shut us down, the more believable it is when we tell fellow Whites “You see? They just wanted to do something for White people! Why can’t we support our own people?”
The normies have to understand that they don’t get nothing, goyim. Until then they’ll continue to believe that it’s just OTHER Whites, just BAD Whites, getting shut down.
Whenever my wife I need to see a doctor (or any professional), we always ask if he is White, as that is our preference and our right to ask. Little things like this are a way of pushing back, just like avoiding non-White business. … Totally legal and non-violent.
I literally put a check in the mail today for more than your 2 year donation but less than your lifetime one. Do I sign up here or will my name automatically be added?
Thanks so much. Do fill out the form here though, just to be sure.
This “cultural nationalism” may have a use for race realists.
Let’s face the facts. If one is an open white nationalist he may expect at the very least to be deplatformed. In addition he may be denied banking services, lose his employment, face harassment and vandalism, etc.
Muslims practice taqiyya, and Leo Strauss advocated the “noble lie.” If a race realist can use “cultural nationalism” to advantage, using the defence of Western civilisation as a respectable cover for his views, why shouldn’t he? Don’t make the perfect the enemy of the good. Our views need allies in positions of influence and authority. We’re not going to get such allies if we insist they publicly embrace positions that lead them to suffer devastating consequences.
The Communist Party of the United States of America never had a large membership, and those that were members became pariahs in the eyes of large numbers of their countrymen. As an alternative they set up fronts, which enabled their sympathizers to support them tacitly while not actually joining the party. These fronts enjoyed (and continue to enjoy) much wider support than the CPUSA itself. And now, long after the fall of the old Soviet Union, we are witnessing the triumph of its ideology in our own government, where we thought it could never occur.
Why not turn their tactics back on them? Instead of complaining about “stale old civic nationalism” or its re-packaging as “cultural nationalism,” find points in common, cultivate the people involved, and guide their development.
Events are trending in the right direction. All analyses of real estate markets, for example, suggest that a flight of the middle to upper-middle classes is taking place from big cities to outer suburbs, small towns, and rural areas. Why? They want to get out of the “riot zone.” No one wants to live in or near black social pathology. These people are natural allies, if approached in the right way. They may have been propagandized to belief that all white nationalists are bed-sheeted Kluxers out to lynch some hapless blackamoor, and it will do no good to confirm their suspicions and fears. When among such people, follow the old maxim –
“Audi, vide, tace,
Si vis vivere in pace.”
There will be occasions to enlighten them gently and gradually if we are prepared to do so.
“Muslim practice taqiyya” …
It is a specific doctrine that becomes operational when there is severe persecution. Under such circumstances, a believer is allowed to shield his beliefs from his oppressors to save his life.
Secondly, that oppressor needn’t be a non-Islamic dispensation. Much of the Taqiyya happened under oppressive Sunni monarchs who brutalized the followers of Imam Ali (Peace be Upon him).
Thirdly, since, presently, the West is not oppressing Muslims today but, on the contrary, lavishing citizenship and other civic benefits on people from Islamic lands, the doctrine automatically becomes inapplicable.
Do you seriously think when a brown Muslim living in the West with his extended family bullies a White man and threatens him with consequences for indulging in ‘White supremacist behaviour’ is indulging in Taqiyya?
I appear here on CC with my first name and state openly that I am a Twelver Shia who thinks Islam is THE way to salvation. Does this amount to Taqiyya?
Wearing your believes on your sleeve is NOT Taqiyya.
Today, the Whites in the West are being forced to do Taqiyya. They must hide their communitarian believes on their own soil if they want to escape persecution which is very unfortunate indeed.
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On what basis do you believe Islam is THE Way to salvation? The Koran says that all peoples have been given Prophets and Warners.
The Lord of the Worlds is not so small. Read great Sufis like Martin Lings, Frithjof Schuon, or Rene Guenon.
Were Greeks, Romans, white? The great Historical Empires like Chinese,Persian, Muslims were they WHITE? … Capitalism, and the rise of the Industrial Revolution were the foundations of the New Western ANGLO Empires. The vital issue for AMERICA(ans) is the concept of NATION/ALISM…which must become the common uniting DEFINING factor that will give a multicultural (sexual, gender, etncity etc.) populations a COHESIVE center of gravity to pull them together…This (MAGA) movement must become the absolute opposite of MULTICULTURALISM globalism…that erodes the forces of assimilation and its impetus among nonwhites under the veil of tolerance, victimology, and the lyrical exaltation of prehistoric, retrograde “tribal” traits. The recent rash of attacks against ASIANS that have embraced AMERICAN values whole heartily making them to be perceived as WHITES, this violence is the product of multiculturalism that divides a national population into different groups, tribes, etc. and muticulturalism that pushes people apart, shaming them for assimilating into “whiteness”, basically pushing them to compete for grievances real or fabricated.
“(…)the Whites in the West are being forced to do Taqiyya. They must hide their communitarian believes on their own soil if they want to escape persecution”
My point exactly. For white nationalists to reject those who prefer to defend “Western civilisation” because they do not overtly assert racial arguments is to reject potential sympathizers and allies who simply don’t want to commit economic suicide. It is reasonable suspect that a great many of these “cultural nationalists” would admit – in private, to trusted friends – that what is at issue originates in racial-biological differences. These manifest themselves in the cultural incompatibilities they prefer to discuss in public.
Amazing that we could go through a year of plague and not see biology as a determining factor in life.
We don’t reject them. They are friends indeed (I wouldn’t say allies though). But they often muddle the pressing issue of our time: The desire of whites to be let alone to flourish. We can share and collaborate with friends of other racial and cultural groups (in their own nations), but the focus should remain first and foremost on our own well being in our own nations.
The well being of the West and its values stands on the well being of whites.
The Liptons, our supposed allies and near enemies, want the scent without the flower. It cannot be. The occasional exception simply proves the rule by its rarity. We cannot expect willingly clarity from them – we must rather demand it lest our own people become confused.
There is little hope of progress while well-educated and intelligent persons can maintain that the culture of a Ligurian village will continue intact after its inhabitants have been replaced by African refugees.
Or that we should be compelled to pretend the femininity of a patent biological male on no other basis than the man’s lunacy or caprice.
Or that we should eschew coherence of thought and clarity of expression lest we show up the addled and incapable.
I am afraid that we shall need to wait until such contradictions and absurdities are evident and irrefutable to all before our remedy gains traction. Until then we watch, wait and prepare.
So called “white supremacy” is nothing more than the tacit acknowledgment of the REALITY that whites are in fact supreme and their supremacy is the glue that holds this whole free “western” worked together but unfortunately the global elites (compelled by the CCP) who we once served in a tidy little arrangement have turned against us and our useless votes for freedom (Trump) and independence. We are being collectively punished. Destabilized. Balkanized. What’s more, we are being decimated like the injun savages found on the land here when my forefathers arrived and carved out a paradise amidst the hell of torture, rape, and genocide, all absolute specialties of the “native” population. The only question now that we are targeted for a similar eradication is, will we be as brave? Will future football teams bear our likeness on their helmets? The Washington Whiteskins for example? I doubt it. South Africa is coming to America.
Such absurdities. If the past decade has taught me anything it is that people’s opinions are highly susceptible to influence and there is more to them than what they say.
That kind of alternative, “live on through culture”, “live on through the English language, England is gone”, etc is just Kosher poison pills; Accept total destruction or accept a degrading alternative where you’re still destroyed but we parade your corpses at festivals and above gates – which is likely much worse than total destruction.
This train of thought is absolutely demotivation from an ethnic rival (You know the ones).
A social and economic power structure that does everything it can to destroy White racial solidarity has been in effect most all our lives, and with our increasing diversity and group conflicts racial thinking is inevitably growing. To let go because “On March 10 20xx this poll says whites hate their people”
is just silly.
I have a distaste for conflict but this needs to be said; the people harming us the most are wolves in sheeps clothing standing right next to us; From Richard Spencer, to every pseudo-intellectual, and “critical” or negative influencer/thinker/pundit that have only been capable of destruction, they are more of the reason for our decline than others. That is what negativity does.
From influencing online groups and causing slow erosion through conflict to the very clear damage of group solidarity by diversifying neighborhoods/schools/etc. every action can be seen as pernicious dismantling of White resistance (group identity). This is visible from a group psychology/network theory point-of-view.
Be more aware of peoples actions and thoughts and how it relates to others, and cautious of certain people. Difficult to do online but very possible.
Why did this get word wrapped?
Same old cuckservative bullshit:
“Here’s what you need to do in order to be accepted by your enemies, at which point they will surely share power with you as one amongst equals!”
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