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In my interview with Trevor Lynch, he mentioned that the question of how to attract more women to the movement was already a cliché 20 years ago. I disagree. I think it’s a very serious question and that a serious answer can be found. I want to emphasize that our goal is not to become a movement of pick-up artists, fulfillers of women’s whims, or a club of cool guys (we already are), but to build our own media and successful activist groups, which will lead to the creation of a white ethnostate and the survival of the white race in the modern age. In short, to spread effective propaganda and organize white communities.
If we are thinking about how to reach more libertarians, people from the Alt Right, politically incorrect comedians, and people from IT, then how to reach more women is also a serious topic. I would even say that it is a more serious topic, because women make up the largest group in this selection, and we need them most for our long-term survival.
I will divide the answer to the question: “How to attract more women to the movement?” into two categories: how to attract more female readers to Counter-Currents, and how to attract more women to pro-white activism.
- Encourage all our female authors to publish more. If women realize that we take them seriously and that they have media space here, they will be more inclined to write for CC and participate in CC-related social events. Motivate female authors to publish their poetry on CC. Could other artistic or creative activities be represented, such as graphic /design and painting, art, gardening, collective white activities, etc.? Perhaps women could be invited to showcase some of their talents, whether at home or elsewhere. It will attract the attention of other women, who will perceive CC as a more welcoming place.
- What do women like about CC and white nationalism in general? This answer may surprise many, but they like Savitri Devi. Women most often translate this author, read her, and identify with her because she had a difficult fate and was a woman in a man’s world. It’s interesting that whenever I talked to a woman in a WN environment and Savitri Devi came up, I always got very positive reactions; no woman ever said to me, “S. D. was too radical, detached from the real world, I don’t like her vegetarianism, ecology, radical NS.” Women always saw S. D. as a complex author and were able to identify with her and her life story. Therefore, publishing more of S. D.’s work would only benefit the CC website from a women’s perspective.
Perhaps it would be worthwhile to write more about other role models for women. Do we know what a typical WN woman should be like? Have we ever thought about it? Do women have a WN role model they can emulate? Who would that be? For WN men, it’s clear—Martin Sellner, The Golden One, maybe Robert Rundo or Thomas Rousseau. This topic could be covered by female writers on CC. I myself would be interested in this. Women also want to be treated as human beings, which apparently does not even occur to some people in the male-dominated environment that is white nationalist activism.
For example, I participated in a nationalist group in our country where there were more women than men. This was a complete exception compared to all other nationalist political groups. How was this possible? We divided activism into several types of actions. Political events—these were our own happenings, protests, or support for broader protest movements (in the US, for example, protests in support of Donald Trump). Social events—barbecues, alcohol, rebellious music. Women participated most in these events. Women were encouraged to bring their friends to these events. This type of event attracted the most women to the movement.
There was alcohol, socializing, food—either grilling sausages outdoors or barbecuing in front of our clubhouse—and in the evening, a concert by someone who could play the acoustic guitar. I believe that after a few beers and in good company, even women in the US would sing Johnny Rebel songs!
Political actions were the most important for my activist group, but other activities helped maintain the social dynamics of the group, gave people a sense of a surrogate family, and shaped their lives. The types of activities alternated to keep the group going and prevent it from degenerating from a political activist group into a club for friends who enjoyed barbecues, alcohol, and sexual pleasures.
Each member of our activist group had another very strong interest, and they used this interest to attract people to our activist group. These interests were: paganism, live action role-playing, punk rock, caving (this was especially advantageous because speleologists owned cottages near caves where it was possible to hold free weekend events for the political group), music groups (within our political group, many politically incorrect campfire songs were written) and we planned to start our own band. It was thanks to the musicians that it was possible to run the activist group’s headquarter. This headquarter was a rehearsal space for several bands in the city center (inspired by the CPI headquarter in Rome), and there were designated days for activism and days for the bands to rehearse. When we calculated it financially, the bands were paying our rent for political activism in a big city!
Our activist group’s website gave space to women, and a certain number of articles were written by women for women. Mostly about rebellious fashion. As Joseph Heath wrote in his book The Rebel Sell, women were not very interested in politics, Maoism, or Pol Pot, but when berets became fashionable in left-wing Paris, all women wore them in support of left-wing politics. In the comments on CC, I noticed that people are dissatisfied with the fact that white people walk down the street in sweatpants, sportswear, or running clothes and that people on the street lack elegance. And that a woman would not want to meet someone on the street who is poorly dressed and, on the other hand, that women are attracted to fashionably and elegantly dressed men, which is a very rare sight on the street today. Perhaps CC would benefit from an article on elegant clothing, retro fashion, etc. I believe women would find this interesting.
Another way to appeal to women, both as activists and generally, is to stop crying. Even if I were socially disadvantaged, in a foreign environment, without a partner in politics or a woman, I wouldn’t cry and complain that the movement isn’t doing enough for me and that I can’t find a woman in my movement. Instead, I would socialize, find a group of people, organize trips to the countryside, find out what kind of activist environment exists here, what cultural events are available, and communicate with local people. Yes, it’s hard, but you have to start somewhere. I agree with Greg Johnson that you can’t have a revolution with social benefits and that we should ask what we can do for the movement rather than what the movement can do for us right now. This is a good approach. But on the other hand, we can individually improve a lot of things, at least in our area.
Speaking of emotions and environments, women do not adopt opinions based on logic and facts, but according to how socially acceptable those opinions are. Women behave differently in the company of normal people than women do in the company of black metal and NSBM fans. Change a woman’s social environment and you change her opinions. I have a friend who is a philosopher and publisher, and for a long time he liked a very creative girl who studied Jewish studies and also had artistic talent. Unfortunately, this girl held completely anti-racist views and volunteered at a refugee center. Yes, the non-white refugees were rude here, they treated women with shame, but she believed in white guilt and that if she did something good for the refugees, she would atone for her guilt, even though they behaved really terribly. Her friend completely changed her environment, pulling her out of the world of Jewish studies and anti-racist college students and introducing her to intelligent nationalists and black metal fans. At first, it was a shock to her, because she didn’t believe that such people existed, but when she got to know them better, she was quite silent at first, but after about six months, she agreed that we needed a reconquista and said that we should expel the refugees from our countries! Environment really makes wonders with a woman.
The fact is that women most often have WN opinions if a significant and influential male figure in their lives, such as their father, grandfather, or boyfriend, also hold those opinions. I have encountered this many times in our circles.
Once in a while, I organize a so-called White Evening in my town, where I invite non-problematic white activists, most often accompanied by women, and then women who like black (in this case, white humor, memes, politically incorrect jokes, are rebels, etc.). We take over a barbecue gazebo for the evening, hang up flags with the slogan “Good Morning White Pride,” barbecue, tell politically incorrect jokes, listen to and sing politically incorrect songs, and a few people play the guitar. The ratio of men to women here is 60/40%, which is still very good. In the age of AI, it’s very easy to compose a politically incorrect song and have AI make music for it. An evening under the stars with white friends is always unforgettable. But I had to create this environment; if I hadn’t done it, it wouldn’t exist.
When my activist group existed, people who participated in the group’s social events automatically and organically adopted the group’s ideology. For example, no one went to a barbecue and told the activists how virtuous he was, how he voted for progressive anti-white racists and supported BLM, because everyone would laugh at him and his social status would drop to zero. If such a person happened to be at our event, he had to keep quiet or he would definitely become the target of jokes. And if this person wanted to participate in other events of the group, he had to adopt the nationalist ideology as well.
The dynamic is such that women rarely get involved in political and dissident movements, preferring to wait until the movement wins. On the other hand, some women are already involved. How about finding out what motivates them, what they like, what bothers them, and taking that into account? We are certainly not a movement that serves women’s needs and whims, but we are now a less toxic movement for women than feminism, the transgender rights movement, BLM, etc. So I believe that women will become more involved, and for example, the Identitarians are quite successful in this regard, and there are even purely female Identitarian groups such as 120dB. We do not promote gender equality and egalitarianism, but we do promote cooperation between the sexes and kind, healthy, pro-family relationships. We promote cooperation between the sexes, not the fight against patriarchy and the fight between the sexes. We promote love for women, not hatred and misogyny; we already have feminism and the left for that.
The left is no longer romantic. It’s stuffy, dull, and, dare I say it, clichéd. The right is romantic, funny, and a little dangerous— which has always been sexy. Considering my suggestions and experiences, I believe that this will improve the situation rather than worsen it. What about you, do you have any suggestions for improvement?
I have never had a shortage of women, and if I lived in the US, I would attend pro-Trump demonstrations, talk to women from this environment, and find an artistic soul to involve in my articles, who would, for example, provide graphic design accompaniment to my articles and help me write a few observations on this topic from her perspective..
If you meet an interesting woman who you like, have a deep conversation with her, and be sure to get her phone number, email, Facebook, whatever. She often feels the same way and will also be sorry if she doesn’t see you again in the future. Even the best pick-up artist can’t pick up every woman on the first date; sometimes it just takes time. It’s very important to take contact details from reliable, interesting people, because if you don’t, you won’t be able to collaborate with them in the future or meet them again. Related to this is another thing: don’t be afraid to write, call, invite someone somewhere, or organize something. In general, people deal with a lot of their own problems, and few maintain regular contact and organize events. Try to be that person.
I am an INTJ personality type, i.e., an architect. I build my own environment and create my own opportunities. I know that there are many other INTJ readers on CC. Are you also building your own circle of women and mutual friends? What is your opinion on this topic? I would also appreciate comments from other personality types on this topic. And what about you women, what do you like/dislike about this WN environment? What attracts you to this environment? Would you be willing to engage in real activism? How would you choose an activist group? What would you appreciate in the future on CC? If you have any relevant insights on the topic, please write them in the comments!
N.B. No self-flagellation, we are doing our activism well and we have nothing to apologize to women and the public for, only some things we could do better and more effectively. There is no point in softening and backing down from our message because of women. It doesn’t work that way. When it comes to politics, it is better either not to discuss the topic if it makes no sense, or to say straight out, like Martin Luther: “Here I stand; I can do no other.” if it does make sense. Psychologically strong people attract weak ones.
P.S. “But,” you may ask, “do we want or need more women in the movement?” Whether our movement will be more successful with more women, or whether it is better to wait until women change after the white revolution, or whether it is better to postpone relationships with women until later, I will address all of this in a second article. I will also address practical questions and respond to your counterarguments. Stay tuned!
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Regarding 1. I would like to see cultural essays from Kathryn S. on CC again.
Otherwise I think this question is mostly for women. Personal “redpilling” anecdotes aside, women usually know best when it comes to forming their own networks and persuading other women.
I suggest noticing what Roger Ailes, Rupert Murdoch did at Fox News.
They presented Center Right (not openly pro White, or name the J) politics, a bit more honest news coverage and commentary than the Lib Leftist Je* networks and….
Very Attractive White female news presenters such as Meagan Kelly.
It’s just reality that young women want to be:
Models
Actresses
TV presenters
Pop singers
They like to follow other top models, actresses (Sydney Sweeney now, Christie Brinkley back in her day) pretty, sexy pop singers such as Taylor Swift. These women, young females don’t really care that much about the politics being. presented, they don’t like LGBT feminist Leftist stuff or just ugly women like Hillary and Chelsea Clinton, Rachel Madcow Maddow, Rosie O Donnell.
Give the top Js at the Daily Wire – Ben Shapiro – they used this model and did anti PC, anti Woke, Anti Leftist Conservative (male commentators) such as Matt Walsh (Same as Fox News Bill O Reilly , Tucker Carlson before the Js purged him) and also some pretty young women commenters – Brett Cooper, her replacement.
Women like to see media, activism that attacks other women other rivals. They like to see the size of their rivals butts, they like to see who’s dating whom, who got dumped.
They even follow the British Royal Family. That’s just females being feminine.
Face it , with a few exceptions (My ancestor Catherine the Great, mostly Margarette Thatcher) White women in our politics is really bad – look at Angela Merkel , Libby Dole.
Another areas that works for us is young White women like to have good looking White children or follow women who do.
Why not have some pretty fun, young White model doing exercise videos. David D’s granddaughter would be great at this – I met her, she’s AMAZING.
This may not be a complete answer but definitely one of the ways women are being attracted to the movement on social media is thanks to the accounts that mix body building/muscle culture and right wing memes/political content. Women tend to adopt the beliefs of the men they consider hot and attractive. Guys like Solbrah and The Golden One are some examples of this. If we had a rich sponsors, I think a conference based around this combination could be a great metapolitical success.
…whether it is better to wait until women change after the white revolution, or whether it is better to postpone relationships with women until later…
Great article. Don’t wait until after the revolution is won, that won’t be for many years. 🙃
Harold Covington talked about this problem in one of his blog posts.
Technomad: November 22, 2025 Harold Covington talked about this problem in one of his blog posts.
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Who gives a shit what Harold “the rabbi” Covington scribbled? It’s hard to believe some at C-C would still care about what he had to say, especially on a subject about attracting White females to our cause. Here’s a eulogy: “Death of a Con Man” at nationalvanguard,org
…Covington claimed that Dr. Pierce was a “federal informant,” that the National Alliance was a “scam” designed to help Dr. Pierce “retire on hundreds of rolling acres in West Virginia,” and made many other false, harmful, and unsubstantiated claims — all made up out of whole cloth, like nearly all his accusations.
Covington falsely claimed that the founder of the Church of the Creator, Ben Klassen, whom my friend Will Williams knew well, was a secret Jew and homosexual who would lure young skinheads into his church, rape them, and then murder them with impunity to hush them up. Ask yourself what kind of a man would create, publish, and publicize such lies.
Covington publicly accused Will Williams not only of being an FBI agent, but also of being “John Doe Number Two” in the Oklahoma City bombing case. Williams took him to court over that and won a significant judgement — the only one of Covington’s victims to do so, to my knowledge.
One could write a fair-sized book debunking all the lies and forgeries Harold Covington has committed, many of them obviously designed to sow discord and distrust among those fighting for the only cause worth fighting for. Some of them are very well documented here by Hadding Scott: https://noncounterproductive.flawlesslogic.com/
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Ondrej: ... Perhaps it would be worthwhile to write more about other role models for women. Do we know what a typical WN woman should be like? Have we ever thought about it? Do women have a WN role model they can emulate? Who would that be? For WN men, it’s clear—Martin Sellner, The Golden One, maybe Robert Rundo or Thomas Rousseau. This topic could be covered by female writers on CC. I myself would be interested in this. Women also want to be treated as human beings, which apparently does not even occur to some people in the male-dominated environment that is white nationalist activism…
—Another way to appeal to women, both as activists and generally, is to stop crying….
Crying? WTF are you talking about, Ondrej? Ours is an aristocratic, masculine cause. White females will follow our best men, not the other way around.
I’ve never even heard of the four men you name as role models for “WN” men. Don’t tell me, let me guess: They are big on social media. Serious White racial nationalists, men and women, would do better to familiarize themselves with the teachings of William Pierce than with those you name above. One article of his from a quarter century ago is good for starters: “Subverting Freedom” at nationalvanguard.org
…. When I’ve talked about this subject in the past, I’ve characterized the freedom-lovers as masculine and the security-lovers as feminine because under natural conditions men are a bit more willing to take chances and try new things and want to keep their options open, and they also are a bit more concerned with general principles, and women are a bit more concerned with the security of home and hearth — which is not to say, of course, that even the most adventurous and principled man has no concern for security or comfort or that even the most home-oriented woman has no concern for principles. It’s just that on the average men are more freedom oriented, and women are more security-and-comfort oriented….
… Really, I have had women — and men too — seriously defend the notion that freedom of speech needs to be balanced against comfort, in the form of freedom from feeling bad because of some “insensitive” remark by another person. These couch potato and soccer-mom types will argue, “Well, yes, we have freedom of speech, and that’s important, but we can’t have people saying or writing things that offend other people, things that hurt the feelings of other people.”
For the most part, this is just simpleminded “feel-goodism.” These soccer moms and couch potatoes just have very fuzzy notions about concepts such as freedom, and they’ve absorbed from TV the belief that there really is a “right” to feel good about oneself. Imagine where we’d be today if the Americans at Valley Forge in the winter of 1778 had believed that they had a “right” to be comfortable, and that “right” was as important as the right to be free from domination by a foreign government. In the last couple of centuries we have not only become softer physically and morally, but we’ve become a bit soft in the head as well….
Read more at the link about the perils of the feminization of our race. Pierce goes on to name our enemy: Jews are our misfortune.
Our women should concentrate on raising the next generation of White warriors and leave the difficult fighting of our racial enemies to their men.
I’m an INTJ woman and notice that homeschooling moms who fall into the “crunchy mom” AKA super healthy organic food mom category are quite amenable to WN ideas. I have quite a few mom friends who I feel comfortable expressing these kinds of ideas and over time, they have become much more comfortable agreeing with WN principles.
These moms usually have children above replacement levels and may have teen daughters. It is very important for outreach to target this specific mom/family type since they can be won over easily and are healthy humans.
I just talked to a random mom at a crunchy homeschool co-op who asked me if I had heard of Nick Fuentes and that she thinks he makes a lot of sense- I didn’t even bring it up. While he is a divisive figure in right wing circles, I think it’s notable that random moms feel comfortable talking positively about his ideas at a table with 8 other moms and not fear retaliation. I teach a class and showed students a recent Jared Taylor video. No parents complained and loads appreciate my way of teaching history (remember, this is not a WN homeschooling group, just crunchy).
Strongly agree with this. I know a lot of anti vax mums and they are all naturally coming closer to white identity politics on their own and if you share things with them, they get it even faster.
Its especially handy to have content from presenters like Lana from Red Ice TV in situations like this. But male content creators are also great for converting as well.
Wow. I clicked on the 120dB link above and found the bubble-headed booby Glenn Beck. I thought, well, it’s only about 4:35 minutes on YouTube. So I played it and the bit started out great.
Then, mid-way, Glenn Beck went back to his Libertarian faggotry and testosterone blockers.
Otherwise, I think this article is great and has a good message. I’m not really a fan of Savitri Devi or poetry, but I do agree that more women authors at Counter-Currents would be very good, as well as more thoughtful C-C commentators.
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Savitri Devi is very interesting. A unique individual worthy of attention. Looking back, I think I may have first heard of her via the writings of that cuddly old chap Boyd Rice.
Perhaps ceasing to promote provocateurs (paid?) like Anglin in right-wing American circles would help? How can you attract women if all they read on pro-white websites is hatred, contempt, and relentless guilt-tripping?
Even on this site, there is a bitter old author who constantly criticizes women in his bashing series , but never acknowledges the wrongs of their male counterparts.
There is undeniably an American problem (in Europe, right-wing movements are full of women of all ages).
But I don’t think American women are the monsters these bitter guys portray. Oddly enough, all the ones I’ve met were graceful and charming. Get rid of the agents of chaos who sow division.
The criticism of American women isn’t coming from nowhere. Many exaggerate the problem by applying it to all women, but any young American man could tell you it is indeed a serious problem. I’m glad you’ve only had positive experiences, but I assure you that’s a matter of your sample size.
We have Leonarda Jonie on our side. She is attractive and funny and that is a start. We should support her. If she is performing standup comedy near you, then take a female date. You might have to brief her about her humor first. A few more attractive female standup comedians like her would be a benefit. Since women like to socialize with each other, a practical thing to do would be to organize a girl’s night out for them. Females often take advice from other women better than they do from men, even on the same topics. This would be useful in warning women about the dangers of interracial relationships and marriages. A former female service member would be more useful warning white, female, potential recruits about the problem of sexual assaults of white women by black male service members. Organize a white nationalist singles night on a small scale depending on where you live and if your city is big enough. You would have to be somewhat discreet or at least low key with it to avoid negative attention from big brother and agent provocateurs. American Renaissance has a link to a website called WhiteDate.net. A similar website could be created, not necessarily for dating, but to organize social events on a local level, with an emphasis on females. It could be anything from a supper club to attending a concert. Again, it would have to be discreet or somewhat covert because women risk their employers, coworkers, and other people finding out. In the real world this could cause them problems such as lack of employment. Organizing any type of event like this would have to be kept off of Facebook so big brother doesn’t find out, some type of alternative would have to be used to organize it. Immature men who believe in conspiracy theories, who aren’t gainfully employed would have to be left out of anything like this.
This article prompted me to look back on the people that I’ve known and to assess them via the political criteria pertinent to the above article. I can truly state that about 75% of guys and gals that I have known have ranged from basic agreement, to outright further to the right of ol’ AH himself. The other 25% were at best, wishy-washy types, with a very low quotient of actual ‘Anti-facist/anarcho’ types. We were all fringe-isolated types, of course, but it was still gratifying to meet people that had similar views.
In my humble opinion, it would be best to meet women in non-nationalist events before inviting them to join in WN activities. (I suggest this because I am prioritizing increasing birthrates.) My first impression of WNs is that they seemed very bleak. This may cause young women to fear bringing more kids into the world.
Volunteering is a great way for men & women to meet — everything from domestic disasters flood/hurricane clean-up to giving some time to local schools. Schools really need adult volunteers as coaches, tutors, chaperones, etc.
I happened to just see a Florida high school where teenagers started a Banned Book Reading Club. This was in response to (pro-Marxist) books being removed from classroom reading lists by the parents & BOE, but this type of club, offered after school, or at the public library, could very well be used to read, study, and discuss such novels as Camp of the Saints, or non-fiction books about American & European history. Another idea, is to offer a free presentation to the Friends of the Public Library crowd discussing Orwell’s 1984, as well as the dangers of totalitarianism, communism.
Last, mentioned in the article above was stepping up mens’ attire. This is popular. My youngest son said that when he was in high school, they had a ‘dress up’ Friday (girls in pearls & guys in ties) that was very popular, because students were just so sick of everyone looking like a slob, every day. Check out public reactions to those wearing fitted clothes on youtube at #peakyblinderssquad.
I think the biggest turn off for intelligent women coming to this movement is the the sort of old school sexism that some right wing men have. Wanting to confine women to the home, to strict roles. Controlling them, having an arrogant, patronising demeanor. I don’t want to sound like a feminist, but that sort of thing will keep a lot of women away.
Skanna: November 22, 2025 I think the biggest turn off for intelligent women coming to this movement is the the sort of old school sexism that some right wing men have. Wanting to confine women to the home, to strict roles. Controlling them, having an arrogant, patronising demeanor. I don’t want to sound like a feminist, but that sort of thing will keep a lot of women away.
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Sorry, Miss Skanna, but you are sounding like a feminist. Forget “some right-wing men.” Our cause of White preservation does encourage traditional roles for our females during their child-bearing years — that’s Nature’s way. That is not “confining” or “sexist,” or “controlling.” Those are feminist terms.
Our men and women must be working together, not divided as they currently are. 36 years ago Dr. Pierce told his National Alliance members what it takes to bring not just White females into our camp but our men. You may disagree with what he says here, but others may see the wisdom in what he advised: “How to Recruit Whites to Our Cause: First, Change Yourself” at nationalvanguard.org
…Don’t think about the difficulties involved in fighting our enemies. Instead gloat over the difficulties they are facing in trying to keep their endeavor afloat. Think about the fact that no matter what we do or don’t do, our enemies cannot win in the long run. They have thoroughly wrecked our world, but they are incapable of building a workable world to replace it. The latter task belongs to us and us alone, because only our worldview is based on a true understanding of man and Nature. We mustn’t cry over spilled milk or become obsessed with the damage they will do in the future. Instead, we must promise ourselves that when scores are settled we will utterly destroy them and every influence they have had on our people, so that they will never again have a chance to spread their evil. Until then we can let them do most of our work for us. We will help them multiply their own difficulties while we build our strength. We are engaged in a race war to the death, and setbacks and hardship are inevitable, but whereas our enemies are in an untenable position and cannot possibly win (though they may destroy us along with themselves if we let them), we need only to continue growing and surviving. Compared to their position now, ours is enviable indeed.
Always remember, the tide is flowing in our favor. While we grow stronger each year, they can only make a worse and worse mess of things. This mess will take its toll on innocents, and that is unfortunate, but in the end it will be our enemies’ undoing.
Think of all these things. Meditate on them. Talk about them with friends, if that helps. Let these considerations sweep away every trace of pessimism and defeatism in you and replace it with the certainty that we will win, no matter how long it takes and no matter what we must do. Understand this clearly and believe it strongly, and those you are trying to recruit will feel it. Then you will be successful in your recruiting.
Count your kinsmen friends, not your enemies and their white (lower case) collaborators.
There’s nothing wrong with encouraging traditional roles for women, but if you make it compulsory and the only option, that will keep a lot of women away. It’s a losing strategy.
Skanna,
#1. Find a guy you admire & respect, and who is compatible with you personality-wise, someone who would be a great role model for children.
“I think the biggest turn off for intelligent women coming to this movement is the the sort of old school sexism that some right wing men have.”
Traditional young men aren’t seeking the companionship of intelligent women. They like fertile/young, kind, respectful, reliable, & dignified ones.
“Wanting to confine women to the home, to strict roles. Controlling them, having an arrogant, patronising demeanor.”
“Confine women?” They want to spare us from unnecessary regrets and disappointments. Worry over “strict roles” and “control” is a feminist concern. Technically we’re ALL enslaved (controlled) within a Jewish-globalist world banking system. It’s best to pair up and fight with a partner against ”’the system.”’ Allowing a man to take charge spares so much personal and unnecessary worry. I said, “I do” in 1994, and that was the last decision I ever had to make. (I’m kidding.)
Imagine you’re in a ballroom, and you are asked to dance. You are partners with a man. You allow yourself to be led. He takes a step forward toward you, and you take a step backward. It feels very natural. Designated male and female roles are for good reason. Structure is essential to functioning well. (There’s no controlling, ordering, or forcing. Nobody would want such discord.) No honorable man who must “force” a woman into something, will feel genuinely respected. And guys like respect as much as women like love & appreciation.
Kim, I am a straight white male.
As I’ve said, there’s nothing wrong with encouraging traditional gender roles. Many women will gladly accept them. But if you make it mandatory and say there is no other option, that is a bad move. Some women do want to work, study, etc.
Many left wing women have the paranoid notion right wing movements want to bring in a Handmaid’s Tale system where women can only be wives and mothers. I don’t think justifying their paranoia is a good idea. This article is about attracting more women to the movement, so the over-strict gender roles may be one of the biggest deterrents. Once the feminist propaganda is debunked, plenty of women will naturally accept the traditional roles – but you shouldn’t make it mandatory.
You’re a straight, White, male who didn’t bother correcting Will when he addressed you as “Miss”?
I think we can agree that we disagree on the importance of roles, femininity, & masculinity.
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Kim, to Skanna: November 23, 2025 You’re a straight, White, male who didn’t bother correcting Will when he addressed you as “Miss”?
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Neither did you, Kim. You also probably assumed at first glance that Mr. Skanna is a female. That’s a problem when dealing with anonymous people on the Internet. Anyway, you make clear that you are a married White loyalist female. Your personal journey into White loyalty is interesting. Your #1 advice to Skanna is quite sound.
However, I disagree with you when you said White men don’t value intelligence very highly in potential female life partners. Intelligent females have always attracted me, up there with their physical beauty and a good sense of humor. I’ve found that our intelligent females, once convinced, will accept our truths and repeat them with confidence, and that attracts the kind of men we need.
I’m proud that my wife is smarter than me in some respects. I graduated high school near the bottom of my class, valuing having fun over scholastics, whereas she was valedictorian of hers and a university graduate. I know that the world is full of valedictorians and college graduates who, though successful as students, are intellectually dishonest when it comes to matters of race. Recognizing them is easy.
I tend to agree and I’m anything but a male Feminist. I have four sisters and they are all well-educated and devoted to their families. Half of them made some mistakes (two out of four are divorced and remarried). Ultimately women are probably going to do what they want, and they don’t like being lectured by men on how to be good wives and mothers. That does not mean that they don’t get to have some of my “feedback” (LOL).
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myron gaines, the andrews tate & wilson aren’t welcome in this movement. The appropriate position for guys is neither being a pushover cucked yes-boy to her every demand nor seeing females as only a fleshlight broodraiser but complementary, like figure skating or the ballroom. Shall we dance? Minus the miscarriage, Carl and Ellie in Up is a good White Power relationship and Russell would make a good son.
Hello, I’m a WW. Unless some women genuinely start to feel unsafe around people not like us, they will not change their opinions. Even then, most young women I know are entirely captured by liberal media. I think the best way to get women involved is to target them using attractive, single men. Use these men as the frontmen and have them declare their preference for others of our race. There is so much negativity in the media regarding WW, thus offering content that would make young WW feel valued, which is entirely the reason they adopt liberal values, is how you recruit them away. Also, may be the best strategy is to target women not particularly political. Once you have kids or start thinking about having kids, and those kids are White, that changes your perspective because what you would tolerate for yourself as an individual is entirely different than what you would for your kids. Also, because they are captured by liberal media, they do not know about how dangerous many of our cities actually are; the media in my area never reports on the race of the subject. Young WW just think all men are dangerous, not men of particular backgrounds, and they definitely do not know about what happened to Europeans in Haiti, Rhodesia, Algiers, and what is happening in South Africa now.
In our major cities, most violent crimes are committed by blacks. In such cases, which are numerous, the regime-media always carefully avoid reporting the race of the perps – you are right about that. The media promote ignorance and fake news. Such ignorance is dangerous to the survival of the White race.
“caving (this was especially advantageous because speleologists owned cottages near caves”
I’m not a woman, but I love caves, and caving with other WNs sounds awesome. If women are there, that’s cool too. I have been to several caves (show caves) in the USA over the years, with girlfriends, and they seem to really love caves.
Ondrej is not the first to address this important question. Ben Klassen wrote about it 54 years ago in his first book, Nature’s Eternal Religion, found here as: “Ben Klassen on Marriage” at Nationalvanguard.org
Populate the world by Ben Klassen
NATURE’S PATTERN for most living things can be briefly summarized as follows: birth, growth, reproduction and death. This is the pattern Nature has ordained for all its living creatures, whether it be the lowliest insect that lives but a day, or the highest order of man himself, who might live his span of three score and ten years. Nature has not meant for any individual of any species to live for long. No indeed, each individual merely plays its role in being the present link in the long golden chain of its own species. It is Nature’s intention that the species should live on and on. However, the species itself, unless it is vigorous in its fight for survival, will eventually end in extinction. Some species that have adapted themselves well to their environment and in the fight for survival, have lasted for millions of years. In fact, the shark family has existed for at least two hundred million years without undergoing any great changes, a tribute to its marvelous ability to survive. Compare two hundred million years to the short interval that any particular individual of that species exists upon this planet. (ILLUSTRATION: Ben Klassen with his lifelong spouse Henri)
It is also thus with the human race, and in particular with the White race with which we are exclusively concerned. We should remind ourselves that this is Nature’s pattern, and remind ourselves of the purpose for which Nature has placed us on this earth. Nature tells us loud and clear that that purpose is to propagate our own kind and thereby perpetuate our species. In the process of the natural selection and survival of the fittest, it tells us to keep improving our species in an ever-upward climb. Nature has never ordained eternal life for any individual, or for any generation.
No, on the contrary, death is certain, but you perpetuate yourself in your children and in the generations that follow. This is the real immortality Nature has in store for you…
Read more of Klassen on the subject at the link. Putting ‘marriage’ in the search block at NV brings up more common-sense wisdom, like this 1982 article from the WUNS:
“Ten Commandments for the Selection of a Marriage Partner” at nationalvanguard.org
It is not necessary for us to reinvent the wheel.
I don’t think it is a matter of men needing to open the door for women. The primary issue is a lack of quality role models for women.
Many people get into the movement because they were inspired by someone else. “I wanna write like Anglin. I wanna do podcasts like Mike Enoch. I wanna stream like Nick Fuentes.” You know. “I wanna be like that guy!”
There are just not as many women on that level of talent for other women to look up to. Someone like Morgan Ariel’s apeal is totally built around ale gaze. I don’t think many women look up to her.
Rather, we need a Siouxsie Sue or Courtney Love-type to come along and make it cool for women to be white nationalist. Leonarda Jonie might become that person. She is slowly becoming white nationalism’s first female star.
Also worth noting is that Chrissie Mayr, while not totally white nationalist, has had a weekly podcast called the Simpcast which features exclusively right-of-center female streamers. No male guests. Previous attempts to create such a show have gone nowhere but she has managed to keep hers going for a few years now.
In the early days of the Alt Right, it was an American movement but Brits like Millennial Woes and Morgoth’s Review participated in it because there wasn’t a UK equivalent. As more Brits came into the movement, there eventually became enough of them to form their own community within the greater Dissident Right.
With women, it’s gotten to a point where there is enough of them that they can clique up with each other.
Oh, and how could I forget Emily Youcis? She has been having an amazing comeback lately. Emily is the kind of punk rock chick who could make white nationalism cool with women.
Picture a man enjoying a blunt:
He smokes his big, fat doobie like that.
I’m glad to hear that Emily Youcis is coming back. I always knew she had lots of potential.
The will stancil animations are funny and she’s quite the looker too. Good for Warren.
If this is such a problem for women, why wasn’t a women asked to write this piece?
I remain unconvinced that women are much use outside of kitchen or bedroom, but I take your point.
You write good articles, but comments like the above won’t attract many women to this movement.
Illogical comment. It’s 50% of the white vote. And they unfortunately have a lot of influence over what the men think.
Mark, do you happen to believe that child rearing, or home schooling, is “of use”?
With regard to ‘kitchen & bedroom’– what are your thoughts on marriage?
Do you believe it’s important to have physical relations only within a marriage? Do you believe marriage without children is worthwhile?
I married a psychotic half-caste. It lasted a year. She beat the shit out of me, and the reason I didn’t hit back is because I would still be in jail. So I am not the best person to ask. I am a terrible misogynist. Is that how you spell misogynist?
Wow, what an ordeal. Supposedly, crazy & violent people can never keep up their act of calm, collected, & normal for more than a year, tops.
(Your spelling is correct.) It’s difficult to “count” anyone as a misogynist unless he also loathes his own mom. A surprising number of guys who were seriously burned in bad relationships with monstrous women, will say that their own mom was a good mother.
Mark Gullick: November 25, 2025 I married a psychotic half-caste. It lasted a year. She beat the shit out of me… I am a terrible misogynist…
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Learn from your tragedy, Mark. Being a woman hater is not a good place to start from when courting a life partner. Work on that and restrict your search to normal White females, eliminating “half castes.”
Your situation should never have lasted a year. Don’t let that experience ruin your life, Get over it and back on track.
Congratulations on the escape, bro! Now pull yourself together and get back in the saddle. As other commenters note, women can be gently trained to be valuable partners.
Men need to be assertive, to set limits and boundaries. We need to know how to tell people, clearly and directly, what we want and to tell people what to do. Feminists would have us believe that that is chauvinistic, arrogant, pushy, dominating and controlling. Feminism over the past couple of generations has created weak, emasculated men that women don’t want. I always suggest a book titled No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover. There’s good and bad in it; useful information therein is to stop being passive aggressive, avoid covert contracts, be direct when saying what you want. Stop engaging in approval seeking behavior. Stop trying to please people.
I agree with much of what F. Roger Devlin writes about the ways in which feminism creates laws and social conditions that punish men, supposedly for the benefit of women. Feminism discourages men from being strong, nourishing, leading. Feminism offers no concept of healthy masculinity; masculinity is always and only toxic.
I liked one part in Mr. Devlin’s Sexual Utopia in Power where he brought up a situation of a near-divorce when a man wrote to his wife that he would no longer attempt to read her mind. If she wanted something, she had to tell him clearly and directly what it was. See? Strong, healthy men set clear expectations.
Women follow social trends set by the strong. Our task is to be the strong. Make it so that women are afraid of missing out on our strength.
You’re correct. Not even feminists REALLY want pushovers or wishy-washy guys.
Beau, if I’d only known that in my early twenties…
Re: “Women follow social trends set by the strong. Our task is to be the strong. Make it so that women are afraid of missing out on our strength.”
From personal experience/married friends I’ve known since high school, (+ data on things like how married women vote) women follow their husbands, not necessarily trends.
When a man leads, a woman has two options: Either to follow him, or get left behind.
The solutions to our problems require brains and testosterone and our side has an abundance of both. WN is largely heteronormative (straight, but not narrow as our editor has indicated). Only men can solve our problems. Women may not even notice we live in a decadent “society”, until they can no longer access resources, feel safe, talk to people in their own language and just live in a clean well ordered environment. Perhaps a convergence of catastrophes and mass starvation is necessary to reawaken our survival instincts. Until then I go on doom scrolling, lol.
Come on, there are plenty of middle-aged women who see that there are significant problems. They just have trouble, as many men do, imagining that there might be solutions which have a firm moral basis.
I’m not aware of any nationalist group in history with a strong women presence, outside of Judaism–I remember talking to Jewish chicks in college, totally pro-genocide in Israel, while only the physical Italian stallion of my mystique kept them around.
There are no women nationalists in Japan. Perhaps a few in China? (The one I met in Disney World was only offended for one minute when I said I worked on missiles for Taiwan. There are none in South America.
Women follow trends and power, as they are conformists. If you create a successful, chad movement, some women will come. At this stage, they just pozz it up.
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