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Race & Conspiracy Theory


Alex Jones

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We are, though most of us don’t yet know it, near the end of a prolonged globalist plan for worldwide eugenics. At least eighty percent of the earth’s human population will be dead at the successful completion of this plan. Some experts, who have studied secret documents extensively, put the figure even higher. Alex Jones, the talk-radio personality, is among the pessimists. His thorough research has led him to conclude that the death-toll of extermination through eugenics will be well over ninety percent. 

Humanity as a whole has a stake in derailing the globalist plan, since all of us are potential victims. We should, however, have particular concern for the fate of black and brown populations, who are a special target of the eugenicists. Some of them, like the late Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, are literal nazis and come by their hostility to non-Whites ideologically. Leaders of the New World Order are, in general, white supremacist in their racial thinking. They are filled with loathing for all of humankind, yet they feel a special loathing for the black and brown portions thereof.

Among experts opinions differ about the date that the eugenicist program for world government was initiated. It may have begun in pagan Babylon, the mother of harlots, far back in biblical times, witness the fact that so many of the globalist elite, like Britain’s Queen Elizabeth, are occultists and even practicing Satanists. Other experts, following traditional conspiracy research, point to the Illuminati in the late 1700s as the ongoing source of lethal eugenicist ambitions. In modern history a key moment was the assassination of John Kennedy; America has been in the grip of the conspirators ever since.

Their goal is global government led by a Caucasian elite, a small group of secretive technocrats who will rule the remainder of the world’s population, which will have been cleansed eugenically of most of its racial impurities. Some members of this supremacist elite intend to merge their minds with machines and live forever. They will have transcended humanity in their own lives, just as they will have transcended what they regard as the lower forms of humanity by eliminating most of them physically. Western aid programs in Africa are part of this plan. Far from helping Black Africans, aid programs aim to eradicate them.

Superficially it may appear, to anyone who has not delved deeply into the conspiracy, that political elites across much of the West genuinely favor non-White populations. They are, after all, inviting large numbers of them to live in historically White nations and often reward non-Whites with affirmative-action preferences in employment. In some Western jurisdictions opponents of Third World immigration face criminal charges from the same political establishments that encourage race-replacing immigration. In Greece the job description for an anti-immigration politician must include a willingness to conduct much of his campaigning from the confines of a jail cell. It therefore appears that Western elites do prefer non-White immigrants over their own native-born populations.

But appearances can be deceiving, because, if understood correctly, non-traditional immigration and preferential treatment of minorities are in fact only eugenicist tactics to incite conflict among the various racial groups, with the goal of preventing them from organizing non-racially in opposition to the program of the globalists. Racial violence could also be used as a pretext to impose martial law, which would make the objectives of the globalists easier to realize. That is why globalist eugenicists work so hard to encourage racial tensions and violence.

These globalists pay people to stir up racial animosity. They lavishly fund most of the White nationalist websites on the Internet, and they also pay individual agents to foment bigotry in online forums. If you see someone complaining about Black-on-White violence or the latest race riot, the chances are good that he is in the pay of the globalists. Even if he is innocent of conscious deception, he is guilty of allowing himself to be manipulated by eugenicist power elites.

It is crucially important that we not be ensnared by their trickery. Standing up for our own people would only benefit the globalists and further their eugenicist schemes. Destructive riots may tempt us to feel hostile to Black rioters, since they often single out members of our race for violence. But we shouldn’t succumb to the temptation. We must be firm in our resolve to ignore evidence of racial hostility directed against us and focus our attention instead on the eugenicists who are orchestrating it behind the scenes. George Soros, a former nazi collaborator, is prominent among them.

Our salvation will be a return to the old color-blind interpretation of the Constitution, which will benefit all races. Although those of us who understand the conspiracy are often misidentified as right-wingers in the mainstream media, we have rejected the Left-Right paradigm, which is merely another device to foster social division. Martin Luther King, the illustrious champion of color-blind politics, is a hero among us, though sadly few Blacks are as yet aware of the divide-and-conquer strategy and too often act out the violent roles assigned to them in the political script written by the eugenicists. We who can see behind the curtain are not fooled.

Let us now return to the real world.

Anyone who has listened to Alex Jones’ popular radio program will recognize that I have not exaggerated the imaginative idiocy of this conspiracy theory. It is unlikely that the preceding summary is entirely unfamiliar either, since the theory has spread widely. If it is a fringe set of ideas, it occupies a bigger fringe than White Nationalism.

Since I am not a conspiracy theorist, I will not suggest that this conspiracy theory is itself the result of a conspiracy. I am confident it is not. But at first glance it would be hard to conceive of a better structure for inhibiting racialism among Whites. The abundant evidence that multiracialism is dysfunctional will be interpreted by believers in the theory as evidence that globalist elites, intent on eugenics and world government, are working to make it dysfunctional and using the dysfunctions they cause as part of their scheme.

If you believe that is true, then you will refrain from talking about the manifest deficiencies of multiracial anti-nations, because that would only help set the stage for your own enslavement or physical elimination. You will also make certain that you do nothing to encourage racial division. Defense of your own group implies separation from other groups, which is allegedly the object of the globalists. Racial passivity by the White majority is a necessary response to the globalist threat as conspiracy theory presents it.

Yet a surprising feature of this influential brand of conspiracy theory is that it is possible to defend the West and the historic American nation even from within it. Alex Jones, a highly talented but deranged rabble-rouser, is the theory’s most effective promoter. He is opposed to the illegal immigration invasion from Mexico and occasionally opposes the largely legal Muslim invasion of Europe. He speaks critically of Third World immigration not because he wants to defend his own people, which would be sinfully “racist” and a repudiation of color-blind politics, but because he believes that massive non-White immigration is part of the eugenicist plan to stir up racial tension. He does, nevertheless, oppose it, even though the reasons he provides for his opposition are wildly improbable.

He also opposes globalist trade agreements and the security state’s encroachments on civil liberties. He opposes neoconservative wars and regime changes in the Middle East. He is a sincere and forceful supporter of the Second Amendment. He defends Western nation-states as bulwarks against globalism. At times he hints at a lack of enthusiasm for homosexual marriage, though he alleges that the issue itself is just another eugenicist trick to sow division. The minimalist libertarian state he advocates would have no power to design and enforce affirmative-action policies, and in any case since his restored constitutional republic of the future would be color-blind, it would have no inclination to do so. Racial minorities would sink or swim like everyone else.

On a variety of subjects many racialists would agree with Alex Jones, even though we would recognize that the theory that houses his sensible beliefs is too bizarre even for fantasy fiction, let alone serious political analysis.

That so many important subjects are addressed from within this conspiracy theory suggests that the theory is not popular on its own merits, which are non-existent, but because of the subjects themselves. In other words, the theory is drawing its followers largely from those Whites who are concerned about important racial and cultural issues. Put even more simply, conspiracy theory is stealing people who ought to be racial nationalists. Anyone who scans the comments section on will likely see this suspicion confirmed, especially if the subject is immigration or yet another Black-on-White outrage.

Kevin MacDonald has wondered why the Euro-American response to our ongoing dispossession has not been stronger. He has also predicted, in the concluding chapter of his Culture of Critique, that our collective response will eventually occur:

[A]lthough the success of the intellectual movements reviewed in this volume is an indication that people can be induced to be altruistic toward other groups, I rather doubt such altruism will continue if there are obvious signs that the status and political power of European-derived groups is decreasing while the power of other groups increases. The prediction, both on theoretical grounds and on the basis of social identity research, is that as other groups become increasingly powerful and salient in a multicultural society, the European-derived peoples of the United States will become increasingly unified; among these peoples, contemporary divisive influences, such as issues related to gender and sexual orientation, social class differences, or religious differences, will be increasingly perceived as unimportant. Eventually these groups will develop a united front and a collectivist political orientation vis-à-vis the other ethnic groups.

I am not competent to speak about the value of social identity research, but it seems only reasonable to presume that if Whites are frequently attacked as members of a racial group, we will eventually recognize collectively that an attack on co-racialists is also an attack on all of us.

Affirmative action is perhaps the best example of a policy that should logically be interpreted as an attack on every member of our race. The more recent campaign against alleged “white privilege” is another, as is the Black-on-White knockout game. Yet significant race-based responses to such racial attacks have not occurred, or at least not in the way we would have hoped. There should, in short, be more White nationalists by now.

It seems likely that the growing body of strange and worthless conspiracy theories, along with the growing number of their adherents, accounts for some of this political lethargy.

The consumers of these theories are mostly White. Jones would never acknowledge the racial demographics of the movement he effectively leads, and he makes an effort to discover various inarticulate rap performers who share some of his conspiracist beliefs, but almost everyone who delves into arcane conspiracies while embracing color-blind politics is Caucasian and therefore a potential target of minority identity politics and minority aggression. Few conspiracy theorists are Black or Mexican. Suppressed majority discontents provide most of the fuel for the strange, unwieldy contraption that is Jonesian conspiracy theory.

In recent years the claims of anti-White activists have been aggressively escalating. Saying that you don’t see color is now proof, among advanced antiracists, of racial crime. It is not as bad as saying that you dislike racial minorities or that you wish they lived elsewhere, but it occupies the same immoral terrain. Professions of color-blindness by Whites are interpreted by cutting-edge antiracists as a dishonest defense mechanism through which white supremacy protects itself by denying the need to grant redress to its many victims, who must be seen as racialized Others in order to receive the restitution they deserve. Martin Luther King, as he is popularly misinterpreted, might be condemned as a de facto defender of white supremacy in the current sociopolitical climate, which is why many minority agitators find his famous speeches so irritating and why mainstream opponents of race-specific remedies for racial inequality quote him so often.

White supremacists and left-wing antiracists are, according to Jonesian conspiracy theory, both equally complicit in the globalist plan for world government and mass extermination, but since the former are largely nonexistent and the latter a growing force in contemporary politics, this brand of conspiracy theory is objectively an indirect attack on antiracism in the name of color-blindness. It attacks post-millennium antiracism with its own version of old-school antiracism.

It is thus understandable, though disturbing, that a significant number of the many White Americans who would prefer not to see their nation demolished, and who feel threatened and perplexed by minority aggression, would take refuge in conspiracy theory and in its color-blind ideals. A largely Caucasian political movement that, in the name of anti-globalism and altruistic resistance to eugenics, vigorously asserts the moral and tactical necessity of color-blindness should be understood both as an expression of opposition to antiracism’s postmodern form and as a timid but socially permissible way of expressing disapproval of street-level minority aggression and of anti-White identity politics.

Deluded Whites who get angry at Black violence and at unreasonable minority demands act out, conspiracists believe, the globalist script; but Black rioters and other minority malcontents are also performing their assigned roles and should be rebuked as well. Jonesian conspiracy theory allows you to condemn the antics of Al Sharpton for the altruistic purpose of saving most of humanity from mass murder, an impending eugenicist slaughter during which, unless we act now to stop it, Sharpton’s own race will be especially victimized. You, the humble consumer of conspiracy theories, become the true antiracist, and colored racial agitators become the witting or unwitting servants of nazi conspirators. Conspiracy theory sends its adherents into a political conflict with aggressive minorities armed only with color-blind altruism and moral universalism, but in the current climate they actually are weapons of a sort, although they are far from powerful.

In conspiracy theory we see the curious and troubling phenomenon of an explicitly anti-racialist expression of suppressed but distinctively White political concerns and racial anxieties, which should be expressed openly but which are instead expressed from within a highly inventive fiction. It is normal and healthy to want your race and your civilization to survive and prosper, but in a culture in which those normal desires are strongly and persistently pathologized, the desires unnaturally find their outlet in strange political constructions. Fervent belief in a non-existent eugenicist conspiracy is one unfortunate result.


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  1. Leo
    Posted April 30, 2015 at 1:37 am | Permalink

    This claptrap is part of our problem.

  2. Jaego
    Posted April 30, 2015 at 5:58 am | Permalink

    Like it or not, there is a gigantic initiative on the part of the Global Elite to reduce the world’s population. Jones is right on the money – as five minutes worth of googling will show. Of course Jones is like a funnel: big on the knowledge end and very small on the side of prescription, actually calling a Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin ticket a “wet dream”. And yes, he throws the word Nazi around constantly and denies any dominance of the Jews in America or among the Global Elite. Perhaps his blindness is unconscious, due to marrying a Jew. And of course he was born into Evangelism which doesn’t help on this issue.

    I believe the Elite are correct and that overpopulation is a very real disaster. I just don’t trust them to be the ones who try and solve the issue.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted April 30, 2015 at 10:39 am | Permalink

      The predictable net result of global elite programs throughout the Third World is a dysgenic population explosion rather than eugenic population reduction.

      • Jaego
        Posted April 30, 2015 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

        No one is denying that the population is exploding – just as the deer population does on a regular basis. Then what happens? Flesh is grass and can disappear incredibly fast. They’re banking on it. The System has to be overwhelmed. The immigrants will do it and create crisis. The Elite are will be waiting for that moment.

        The Pyramid is Control is built on the fervent idealism of good but foolish people. They can’t see the Top, who is up there and what their goals are. So such “Christians” (who often no longer believe in Christianity) work hard to fill up Maine with Somalis, surely a profitless work of darkness to quote St Paul. But it furthers the destruction of America so the money is always there for more, more, more. If the Elite were controlling the population in Africa, how would they be able to use Black Africans to help destroy America and Europe?

        Think of the Pyramid like a cloud capped mountain. Those who climb the Organization to above the Clouds see the Men, the Goals, the Ruthless Methods, and the Foul Results with clarity for the first time. They then either leave, stay on, or continue to try and climb. A moral crisis to be sure.

        I have no idea what the exact racial beliefs of the Elite are. Apparently they have contempt for everyone but their special animus towards Whites is probably tactical. Once we are taken down they can rest a bit before they go after the East Asians. If the Global Elite really are dominated by the Jews, then there may be more to it.

    • Posted April 30, 2015 at 2:49 pm | Permalink


      Jones is right on the money – as five minutes worth of googling will show.

      Five minutes of googling will also show that aliens from outer space visit the earth almost daily.

      Anyone who believes that global elites — however we choose to define the term — favor White populations over non-White populations has a weak grasp on reality.

      — Irmin

      • Jaego
        Posted May 1, 2015 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

        I didn’t say that. You didn’t read my post.

  3. Bjorn
    Posted April 30, 2015 at 7:19 am | Permalink

    Interesting article, and not the first bashing I have seen of good ol’ Duracel rabbit Alex Jones.
    But be careful with the use of words here!

    If my memory serves me right, the word ‘conspiracy theorist’ came about by the help of the CIA in the 1960’s. It does a tremendous job of stigmatizing everybody who believes that there is a conspiracy behind most of the major events in history. But one look in hour history book will tell us that conspiracy is the name of the game (Et tu, Brute). I think Ike Eisenhower once said that ‘the biggest conspiracy is that there is no conspiracy’.

    Alex Jones goes beyond reason, but I will stand by the idea that most of our history and its conspiracies are hidden in libraries our ruling elite prohibits us to look into.

    • Verlis
      Posted April 30, 2015 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

      Conspiracy theory purports to explain, but in fact exists only to perpetuate itself. Watergate was a conspiracy, but the facts of the matter having been brought to light, no ‘conspiracy theory’ is required to explain it – except in the innocuous sense of ‘the acquisition of power is so tempting that men often conspire illegally to acquire it, so always be alert to this.’ That Julius Caesar was assassinated by conspirators is established history. A conspiracy theory regarding the assassination would claim he was assassinated for reasons more grandiose than those commonly agreed on by historians, and would probably assert that the assassination carried political implications far more momentous than currently believed – all of which would conveniently lie beyond the reach of rational inquiry.

      • Jaego
        Posted May 1, 2015 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

        Watergate was pretty simple and straight forward. Likewise Caesar’s assassination. But the soft genocide of the White Race? Big time Conspiracy Theory required. Because most people who admit it’s happening will just say “It’s just something that is happening.” An inadvertent result of global labor markets.

        I admit most Conspiracy Theories are nonsense. But remember Sturgeon’s Law: Ninety percent of everything is nonsense. The answer is to bad Conspiracy Theory is Good Conspiracy Theory – unless you don’t believe in Conspiracies. And that is an absurd position for a White Nationalist to hold.

    • CIA stooge
      Posted May 1, 2015 at 5:51 am | Permalink

      The term conspiracy theory has existed long before the CIA has supposedly invented it, see here.

  4. Dutch
    Posted April 30, 2015 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    The ‘lunacy’ of Alex Jones vs the intellectual purity of WN.

    Now who has the best chance to win?

    Alex Jones has millions, WN thousands.

    Does it really matter if Alex Jones is a ‘lunatic’?

    Who do you think his message has appeal too? Leroy?

    It is like the old quip: “in a Tea Party gathering there are more Jews and blacks on the stage than in the public”.

    It is very well possible that a de facto racialist revolution could succeed in the US, without the revolutionary movement (“Constitutionalists”) being explicitly racialist.

    In the light of the current crumbling of the US, as witnessed in Baltimore and Ferguson, expect some State (possibly Texas) to secede from Washington first.

    Alex Jones has much better chance of leading such a secession movement than God knows which unknown WN ‘leader’.

    Go for it, Alex.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted April 30, 2015 at 10:34 am | Permalink

      If you are comfortable with complete “burn, baby, burn” intellectual and political nihilism, then Jones and the rest of the lunatic fringe are the people for you. My view is that one cannot create a high trust, white civilization out of paranoids, thus the Jones/Icke axis are pretty much all crooked timber, from which nothing can be built.

      As you might conclude from reading my material, I have a Plan A and a Plan B.

      Plan A is to help rational, pragmatic, moral people envision a rational, pragmatic, moral path out of the current mess while maintaining our civilization and its glories intact. It could work; it might work; I hope it works; and I think it is my duty to try to make it work.

      Failing that, Plan B, is to let the wheel turn, Archeronta movere, to let all hell break loose, and hope that enough quality white DNA survives that our people can live on and perhaps create a new civilization.

      But even if I get desperate enough for Plan B, people like Jones and his followers have to be seen for what they are. Like Jews, they are just destructive forces, ferments of decomposition. Again, nothing wholesome or sound can be created with paranoid kooks, which is why I exclude anyone from my circles who shows signs of such pathology.

      • Ian
        Posted April 30, 2015 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

        Hi Greg,
        I first encountered you through your colaboration with the great-and greatly missed-Jonathan Bowden.I enjoyed your interview with Henrik Palmgren on Red Ice Radio but I have to inform you that Henrik ‘suffers’ from the ‘pathology’ that you mentioned.I hope that you might re-consider some of your views on ‘conspiracy theorists’.Alex Jones is well-known as a ‘gatekeeper’ who gives good info to establish credibility but never takes people the whole way.The late Bill Cooper also pinged him as a fear-monger.

        • Dutch
          Posted April 30, 2015 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

          If Alex Jones would “take his public all the way”, he might as well sit down with David Duke in an Austrian mountain cabin and achieve little. To achieve something in real politics, you need robust populists or at least people who can connect to large audiences, like Vladimir Putin has done. Starting to inform the public about ‘who rules America’ as a sort of Hitler 2.0 after 50 years of relentless media propaganda, isn’t going to bring you anywhere. Alex Jones knows very well who is running the US, but can’t say it, at least not now, but he does tolerate free comments on his site. Defending the Constitution and ignoring Jews and race could very well be a workable strategy, because only Whites are interested in the Constitution and it is a theme that cannot be forbidden by the elite, that indeed does want to abolish the Constitution.

          • Greg Johnson
            Posted April 30, 2015 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

            Jones is not just omitting dangerous truths, like a Jared Taylor, on the assumption that he can gain a bigger audience for other truths. He is putting forward a vast, systematic tapestry of deliberate lies. There is no value in this charlatan whatsoever.

  5. Tucker
    Posted April 30, 2015 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    This has to be one of the biggest and most foul smelling piles of kosher manure I have every wasted my time to read.

    Racial competition has been going on since the earliest recorded history on this Earth – and since the dawn of history, different races of humans have fought endless conflicts over territory, natural resources, food, water, and even over women. This is NEVER going to change, and this guy’s blather sounds exactly like the kind of delusional, Utopian, deracinated, Rodney King – Why can’t We All Get Along – horse crap that we’ve been hearing liberals and the virulently anti-White Cultural Marxists spew for the last 60 plus years.

    Greg Johnson shamed his otherwise decent Website by allowing this nitwit to use it as a platform to spew this pathologically insane garbage.

    Incidentally, I’ve read this Vinson fellow’s material before – and this guy is a race treasonous rat and he is a gate keeper for the #1 enemy, who’s name he never mentions and who are the primary architects of the White Genocide Agenda.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted April 30, 2015 at 10:45 am | Permalink

      Exhibit A: This is the kind of person who defends Alex Jones. Nothing sound can be constructed from such human jetsam.

    • Posted April 30, 2015 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

      Tucker wrote:

      Incidentally, I’ve read this Vinson fellow’s material before – and this guy is a race treasonous rat and he is a gate keeper for the #1 enemy, who’s name he never mentions and who are the primary architects of the White Genocide Agenda.

      If “the #1 enemy” is a global elite, intent on eugenics and propelled by white supremacism, a nazi elite that includes Queen Elizabeth and Queen Beatrix and may have been formed back in ancient Babylon, then it is true that I have never once, until today, written anything about this elite. Its nonexistence is one reason for the omission. The willful idiocy of believing in its existence is another.

      On the other hand, it seems to me that I write about Jews quite often, perhaps more than anyone else who writes on this website.

      What’s odd here, and telling, is that Tucker is almost literally hearing voices in his head. Alex Jones is not hostile to Jewish power. He denies its existence. He can talk about neoconservatives without mentioning that most neoconservatives are Jews. He excuses Black violence by blaming it on nazi eugenicist elites. But Tucker believes something quite different. Jones speaks and Tucker hears words that never came from Jones’ mouth, words that no tape-recorder could capture.

      Alex is not on your/our side, Tucker. You think he is, but he isn’t.

      — Irmin

      • Harry Savannah
        Posted May 1, 2015 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

        Good reply Irmin. Especially as it was a help (to me) in encapsulating the overarching “theory” of Jones’s broader “conspiracy theory.” I am only superficially aware of Jones’s notions. I noticed elsewhere you tangentially mentioned “9/11” – assuming the govt. take on the matter. This was disappointing – to see your apparent “acceptance” of the same. But reading this article I think it would not be unreasonable for me to suppose it is something of a “so-what” proposition for you – it is merely a “distraction.” Such minimalizing ought to be horrifying if the event was as the “Truthers” insist (and I am one). But after nearly 14 years of nothing furthered, nothing changed for the anti-official crowd, perhaps you are, on this observation, correct, if only as a brutally practical position taken. A “distraction.” A miserably tragic helluva distraction.

  6. James O'Meara
    Posted April 30, 2015 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    “Few conspiracy theorists are Black”

    Surely this isn’t true. Conspiracy theories abound among the black chappies: AIDS and/or crack are govt/CIA plots to wipe out blacks, for example. The “theology” of the Black Muslims is a conspiracy theory in theological garb. Blacks are the real Hebrews. There are 57 states (The Man won’t acknowledge PR, Guam etc.), an idea the Prez accidentally revealed himself to be familiar with during the ’08 campaign. Indeed, the whole “blame YT” for black dysfunction is a conspiracy theory.

    I will admit, though, that the Hispanics seem uninterested. I think Whites like to think, blacks like to imitate Whites and have there own “theories”, and Hispanics just want to drink beer and drive around.

    • Leon
      Posted May 1, 2015 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

      I think Vinson meant to say that few libertarian conspiracy theorists are Black. Of course anyone who has ever dealt with Afrocentrism knows that Blacks are capable of coming up with some really inventive and mind-boggling conspiracy theories. For example, did you know that everyone important in history, from the Greeks to the Vikings, were actually Black, before White people came out of nowhere to steal their history? It seems to me that anyone who holds anti-White beliefs must believe in some very grandiose conspiracy theories, since if Whites do better than most non-Whites in every field, then there must be some powerful complex of ‘institutional racism’ behind the system which enforces mass immigration, affirmative action, and hate speech laws.

  7. Azsorious
    Posted April 30, 2015 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Something personal. If it hadn’t been for my uncles who are staunch paleo-libertarian’s and were frequent viewers of the Alex Jones show. I would probably be the rest of the young adults in my generation, brainwashed by cultural marxism. The conspiracy theory scene was a gateway for me to eventually come to my current WN positions and I think this holds true for very many young people today. Although I do now realize how stupid most of it is it still helped me along my path to enlightenment and for that I am grateful.

  8. Posted April 30, 2015 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Ezra Pound’s Ghost:

    It is dishonest and uncharitable (I might even say deceptive, if I was a “Jonesian”) for Mr. Vinson to implicitly equate all alternative and revisionist history/politics with “Alex Jones”.

    Everything we need to know about our current situation is non-debatable knowledge. If alternative history/politics helps you and others in arriving at WN conclusions, then that’s well and good. But it isn’t necessary. I am inclined to think that it is an unhelpful distraction.

    — Irmin

    • Irmin
      Posted May 2, 2015 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

      White Nationalists don’t need history or politics?

      That’s an odd interpretation of what I wrote.

      You just totally discredited yourself in my view, Irmin. Do you believe the USG’s official conspiracy theory about 9/11 or not?

      I am sorry to disappoint, but I do. I don’t believe that Jews blew up the WTC. I am certain that Muslims did. If 9/11 revisionism helps you, that’s fine. But I won’t pretend that I believe it, because I don’t. Past experience has also taught me that it is worthless to argue on this subject.

      But I’ll point out that Muslim terrorism provides one of the best arguments anyone could make for secure borders and ending non-White immigration, and 9/11 revisionism takes it away, as some of its promoters intend. Alex Jones is among them.

      WN does not suffer from a shortage of reliable evidence. We don’t need esoteric conspiracy theories, even if they were true.

  9. Bill
    Posted April 30, 2015 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    When a conspiracy theorist talks about the masons, Royalty, the Jesuits, or anything else but refuses to name the Jews you know it is a bunch of bullshit….

  10. Charles Lane
    Posted April 30, 2015 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    Internet message boards are ripe with theories about Alex Jones, some claiming he’s a Jewish plant and question his sincerity, while others believes he’s Bill Hicks made over with a little cosmetic surgery and pulling an Andy Kaufman. The author of this piece wrote in the comments section that “Alex is not on your/our side, Tucker. You think he is, but he isn’t.” He’s exactly right. Alex Jones is nothing more than an amped up Michael Savage (who himself is an amped up Morton Downey,) a carnival barker, cashing in on the gullibility of his listeners. The fact that some no doubt well-meaning white nationalists choose to believe Jones is hip to the cause only highlights the need for a real voice to emerge and unabashedly speak the truth without using code words and euphemisms.

    The idea that blacks (and other non-whites) have been tricked into believing that Right-wingers are against them when it’s really the other way around is the conspiracy theory I encounter most often among my conservative acquaintances. “They’re the real racists,” is a common slur by white conservative Christians aimed at their Leftist counterparts. In the United States the GOP blowhards of talk-radio love pointing out that the Republican party is the party that freed the slaves and marched along side their hero Martin Luther King while the Democrats are the party of the Klan and keep non-whites down via government handouts, abortions and refusing to go along with school choice. If only liberal polices would cease to exist, the entrepreneurial spirit of the African would be unleashed and in the blink of an eye cities like Detroit and Baltimore would be a slice of heaven on Earth.

    Praise Jesus, Israel, the Marines and Free-Markets!

    This is what they believe. They’ll hear nothing of racial differences, all one has to do is subscribe to the conservative ideal and become a Ditto-head and you’ll be aces with them.

    The social media pages of conservatives are lined with meme’s of Margaret Sanger and her thoughts about the “inferior races – Orientals, Jews and Blacks,” and FDR’s quote about having “them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years” as proof of a grand plan to stealthy murder millions of unborn blacks and keep the ones that slipped through the cracks forever on the “Democrat plantation.” (I guess Mexican mestizos are kept in the Democrat vineyards or maybe the Democrat car-wash?) Meanwhile the rank and file liberals label anyone that disagrees with them a racist white supremacists who is probably a secret holocaust denier. Yes on all three. Although I’m not that secret about the last one. And as for the first accusation, yes I am a racist. I’m not a race realist like Jared Taylor claims to be, I’m not a human-rights activist like the new David Duke, I’m a racist plain and simple. My main concern is the survival of the European race and culture. The other races can live and flourish or wither and die, it matters not to me, just as long as they do it in their own nations.

    Point being: All the major parties are anti-white, as with all the elites – who are these elites? Ashkenazi bankers and their traitorous paid-off WASP enablers who think their gated communities are impenetrable. The flood gates to brown and black invaders were opened for two reasons; 1) it cheap labour for big business and 2) it further erodes a white racial consensuses. And that’s no conspiracy theory. That’s reality.

    • Jaego
      Posted May 2, 2015 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

      Well said. Great clarity. But remember, one man’s vision is another man’s conspiracy theory. You’ll still have to argue your position to those who don’t “see” and in process, you’ll be seen and in fact be, a Conspiracy Theorist.

      Say you play in a weekly poker game. One guy starts to win every week. You begin to think he may be cheating. You argue it with other players and try to figure out how he might be doing it. Finally, one of your ideas is seen to be true – you see him doing it. Now you can argue with authority and direct the other players’ attention to the same trick he is using.

  11. Arthur Knightley
    Posted April 30, 2015 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    “It seems like there should be more White Nationalists by now.” I think there are but Jewish power is enormous and ruthless. People are terrified of what Caiaphas will do should they stand up in protest. The Great Man Theory of History is much-maligned by the Left because it wants to discourage such men, or such potential men, from rising and asserting themselves as a force on history. The best hope for sparking a White Nationalist revolution, in my opinion, is for someone located high within the system to stand up and openly challenge it–root, trunk, and branch. Since our politicians are selected for their mediocrity and servility, I won’t be holding my breath, but things are growing so dire that perhaps one among the ostriches will pull his head from the sand and see the world as it really is, and then summon the courage to do something about it. An improbable hope perhaps, but not an entirely impossible one.

    • Verlis
      Posted April 30, 2015 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

      I’m sure the left does wish to discourage the emergence of “Great Men,” at least if they’re white. But even if the left wished to encourage Great Men, it would still have reason to reject the Great Man theory of history because that theory misidentifies the real causes behind historical change.

  12. Bruce
    Posted April 30, 2015 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    We need to compete with the Jones-types for the minds of these people, and at the same time keep their bad thinking from corrupting our own ideology. Constructing a world view is necessarily elitist, and what filters down to the ranks is going to be at a lower intellectual level to be sure. We should just accept that.

    We shouldn’t practice the kind of elitism of NRx, and just write off all these people. There is no point in being a vanguard with no army backing you up.

    That’s why I get really irritated when alt-rightists use words like “stormfag” and “vantard.” Stormfront, the Daily Stormer, /pol/ et al. are in effect our competition with the Alex Jones-types for this vast pool of disaffected whites. We already have a pretty good core of elite thinkers and writers, we should be moving toward the phase of assembling our army. Sometimes it seems like the only goal of the alt-right is to write better essays than our enemies.

    • Posted April 30, 2015 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

      That’s why I get really irritated when alt-rightists use words like “stormfag” and “vantard.” Stormfront, the Daily Stormer, /pol/ et al. are in effect our competition with the Alex Jones-types for this vast pool of disaffected whites.

      I completely agree. We are all on the same side. There is no value whatever in maligning the contributions of others.

      In any case, I can never figure out what is supposed to be so bad about Stormfront. I was there when it was still basically a listserv. It was a valuable site then, and it still is.

      The truth of the matter is that WN is merely common sense applied, by members of our race, to racial and cultural matters. It requires no special abilities. You just have to be willing to look at the world clearly.

      — Irmin

      • Shawn
        Posted May 1, 2015 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

        Jones is a careerist who spouts out truths here and there and then misleads and fearmongers (people get a dopamine hit from fear). He is a performer, an actor, entertainer, sort of like the a professional wrestler in talk radio. I don’t believe Jones believes all he says he believes. I’ve listened to Jones for some time off and on and he has a very high analytically ability and is well-read on a variety of topics. On balance Jones does more good than harm though and I’m glad he’s out there.

  13. Verlis
    Posted April 30, 2015 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    Twice I’ve encountered people who subscribe to Jonesian conspiracy views in the real world. One was a gas station attendant with whom I’d struck up an acquaintance, and the other was a stranger at a bar with whom I’d gotten into conversation after an exchange of pleasantries. What surprised and disheartened me most was that in all other respects these were likeable, seemingly sensible people.

    The gas station attendant was of libertarian bent, who was convinced that arms restrictions were a precursor to a broader totalitarian clampdown. I’d cordially agreed with a passing remark he’d made about the virtues of gun ownership, and this provided the spark he needed. He quickly began moving from theme to theme, all centered around his core thesis of a government conspiracy against the people. Although there wasn’t anything particularly offensive about his views, the leaps of logic he made to support them left me discouraged about the average man’s capacity to reason about political currents.

    The second fellow was a conspiracy-monger in the ‘central casting’ mould. I don’t remember what set him off. Possibly he introduced the subject to anyone sociable enough to engage him in conversation. At first I gave him a couple of raised eyebrows – you expect me to believe that? – but when I saw there was no stopping him I began to egg him on with questions for my amusement. That was a mistake because he carried on even after I became visibly disinterested, but I was loath to give up my ‘good seat’ just to get away from him so I listened on.

    He was very big on the population reduction conspiracy. As Greg suggested above, it doesn’t seem to occur to these sorts that if governments wanted fewer people they’re going about it precisely the wrong way. I suppose if you mentioned this – I didn’t – they might argue that governments, malevolent bastards that they are, just want everybody to suffer all the more, so they first encourage growth, milking the people for all they’re worth, before finally bringing the hammer down on population.

    This fellow had it in his head that it was through the water supply that the government was going to get us. He even offered to put me on the right filtration system if I gave him a call. The thought occurred to me that the whole conspiracy business may have been nothing but an elaborate sales spiel, but if he makes his living selling water filtration it’s hard to believe he settled on conspiracy theory as the most effective sales method. At that point I’d had enough and excused myself after rejecting his offer. He made a final bid to win me over: “I’m telling you, man. You, me,” – gesturing with is arm – “and everyone here. They want us gone.” It was a memorable performance.

  14. Stubbs
    Posted April 30, 2015 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    Don’t forget that the media is owned by Arabians.

  15. Brian
    Posted May 1, 2015 at 12:22 am | Permalink

    Fantastic article. I believe a number of readers didn’t make it past the satirical bit before throwing hat in ring.

    To be fair, though, Jones and the like have simply rearranged Carto’s conspiracy theories to more agreeable configuration. If a group of Jew bankers can conspire to exterminate the white race, the lizard people, led by Nazi Jew Soros, can just as soon conspire to wipe out the other guys.

    It’s much more difficult to convince people that a succession of bad ideas and the worst of human nature could lead to this. If you were to look at the architecture of the strip mall in the small town I live in, you could easily be compelled to believe that someone must have planned it. On the whole, it’s unimaginably ugly, as if drafted by a vindictive genius. But there was no conspiracy.

    It’s hard to be good.

  16. Zarathustra
    Posted May 1, 2015 at 3:18 am | Permalink

    I once come across a great quote from the comic writer Alan Moore, and paraphrasing, he said on the topics of conspiracies that “The only thing scarier than believing that someone is controlling the world is realising that no one is. The ship is rudderless.” People find it comforting that they can sum up all their problems and blame a handful of people, and if they just can find a way to get rid of them everything will be great. I find the biggest problem is not that our elites have some elaborate plan, but they are just fools who live moment by moment, trying to get a little more out of the pig trough. This allows different groups to have influence over them by dangling a carrot in front of them or stick behind them. When our leaders have a greater connection to the past and future the carrot and stick will be meaningless, they will shrink in front of them as their perspective grows. This is why projects like counter currents are important. May the carrot shrink.

  17. Lew
    Posted May 1, 2015 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    The fact of the matter is Alex Jones’s supporters believe things that are not consistent with basic rationality. In my experience, most of the people who support him have a skewed view of reality. Jones does not have anything to offer the white nationalist sector. He is, I believe, exactly what he appears to be, just another jew-supporting gate keeper whose role in public discourse is to mislead people who might otherwise tend toward rejecting a broken system and radicalism. Jones provides a blind alley for a certain type of frustrated white to get lost in and in this sense serves jewish and elite interests quite effectively.

    • Harry Savannah
      Posted May 1, 2015 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

      Isn’t “Jones as a ‘…jew-supporting gate keeper whose role in public discourse is to mislead people who might otherwise tend toward rejecting a broken system and radicalism'” a conspiracy theory?

      • Lew
        Posted May 3, 2015 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

        There is obviously some fluidity in the definitions, but if you want to characterize as a conspirator anyone who lies to dupe people or advance an unstated agenda then it is.

        I know jones lies. I don’t for sure why he does it, so yes, I’m on pretty thin ice there. But I think given the available evidence inferring that he does it to serve the elite interests he criticizes is not unreasonable.

  18. Jaego
    Posted May 1, 2015 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    If you believe the Jews planned together, worked together, conspired together to overthrow our Civilization, then you are a Conspiracy Theorist. The answer to bad Conspiracy Theory is good Conspiracy Theory. To deny Conspiracy Theory is to deny Conspiracy, which is not only patently ridiculous (since they are everywhere), but self contradictory for mainstream White Nationalists, a denial of their own basic premise.

    Conspiracy (to breathe together) is a basic part of life. Anytime you have three people, a,b,c, who know each other, each pair will talk about and/or act for or against the third when alone – without telling the third. ab will work aginst c. bc will work against a. ac will work against b. It could be something nice like a surprise birthday party. Or could be something terrible like a knife attack in a park like the two little girl devotees of slim man did to their friend.

  19. Jaego
    Posted May 1, 2015 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a good place to start. I found it in less than five minutes. Unfortunately for Mr Vinson (and for all of us really), the speeches linked to in this article aren’t by mythical space aliens but very real and influential people like Ted Turner and Gorbachev. They do want at least a ninety percent decrease in our world population. Their ideal, as put forward on the Georgia Guidestones, is a world population of 500 million.

    • Leon
      Posted May 2, 2015 at 7:54 am | Permalink

      And just how is less people a bad thing? Unless you believe that this elite is going to go after us with machetes, it sounds like something we can all look forward to. If only it weren’t all nonsense.

      • Jaego
        Posted May 2, 2015 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

        Go after us with machetes? After the deaths of thousands of Whites in South Africa – many of them by machete – your comment is both offensive and ridiculous. News flash: the Elite use the lower races to do their bidding. As the Mossad say, By way of deception shall you make war.

        • Leon
          Posted May 2, 2015 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

          Ridiculous? Let’s talk about ridiculous. So you believe that the world elite which has been pumping resources into the Third World, and encouraging non-White fertility worldwide is enacting a eugenicist program to reduce the world’s population in an extremely roundabout way, and then -get this- for no apparent reason, chose to engrave their intentions on a bunch of well-known, publicly accessible stone slabs in the rural United States? Don’t talk to me of offensive, when you go around wasting people’s time with nonsense like that. The world is highly overpopulated. If you don’t believe me then take a good look at any Third World city and see for yourself. We have reached unprecedented levels of population density, and we’re none the better for it. It seems to me that a controlled reduction of the population would be something a responsible society should strive towards anyways, especially if as Jones contends, it deals mainly with overpopulation among non-Whites. Quality of quantity is always better.

          • Jaego
            Posted May 3, 2015 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

            Yeah, I know. I acknowledged all that already. You aren’t reading my posts very well. If I’m worth responding to, I’m worth responding to accurately. Look, do you find women hard to understand? The way they can be with one man, be flirting with a second man, and be thinking about a third all at the same time? Or do you think a chess master only has one plan in his mind at a time? Or are they thinking of many things to do, and which he will choose will depend on how their opponent reacts? If the Elite were obvious in their plans, they wouldn’t succeed. So yeah, they are beginning to deal with the over population in Africa by various means, and simultaneously they are going to use the vast excess population to over throw the First World. See they are doing more than one thing at a time – like Chess. You are playing checkers.

            As Putin once said, words, thoughts, and action have no necessary connection. But don’t action correspond to thoughts? Sure, sometimes. But other times they correspond to word we have said to someone and not to our inner thought. The Elite post as great humanitarians but in reality they think of this world as theirs and as the rest of us as useless eaters. They may well know about Black inferiority but since they are Globalists, they aren’t going to ally with White Nationalists at all. They will do nothing to strengthen our memes. Jones conflates this knowing with both Nazism and Nazism with White Nationalism. What can I say? He’s a pig on this issue, either working for them or just a typical pig ignorant conservative.

          • Leon
            Posted May 4, 2015 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

            @Jaego – Sorry, but your position still makes no sense. Just how does supporting Third World fertility and flooding First World nations with immigrants low on intelligence but high on crime constitute a eugenic project? Reducing Whites to a minority in order to solidify the elites’ grip on Western countries is not what Jones is proposing is going on. If he were, he’d be much firmer ground, although his talk of a Nazi-like conspiratorial elite would still be nonsense.

    • Posted May 2, 2015 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

      the speeches linked to in this article aren’t by mythical space aliens but very real and influential people like Ted Turner and Gorbachev.

      Proof that many people believe the world is overpopulated is not proof that nazi eugenicist elites are engaged in an actual plan to cull the planet of racial undesirables.

      In the real world Bill Gates is a deracialized liberal spreading his color-blind altruism to Africa; in the alternate reality of conspiracy theory he is a white supremacist killing Blacks in order to further a eugenicist plan of population reduction through mass murder. Alex Jones and Michael Snyder won’t even give him credit for being a nice antiracist who cares more about the Third World than he does about his own civilization.

      Michael Snyder:

      Personally, I think that the 7 billion people on earth would do just fine if they were given a lot more liberty and freedom to live their own lives as they see fit.

      That strikes me as incredibly unlikely, but in the raceless world of Michael Snyder, it seems reasonable. Add free-market economics to Africa, and Africans, despite an average IQ of 70, could cope with almost infinite population growth.

      As Dr. Pierce used to point out, Western aid caused the population crisis in Africa, which would not have occurred without our humanitarian assistance.

      I will note, by the way, that if you acknowledge the truth of that observation, then you must also reject Jonesian fantasies about nazi eugenics, unless you are prepared to argue that the globalists increased the African population only so that they could set about destroying it later.

      There _is_ a population problem in Africa and in much of the Third World, as Jaego has acknowledged. Many people, especially those with environmentalist inclinations, worry about global population increase. Some of them talk about the problem. My only objection to their talk would be that Africans are entitled to deal with their own population crisis as they choose. It is their continent and therefore it is not our issue.

      Jonesian conspiracy theorists take the quotes and invent a systematic slaughter in the future conducted by white supremacists. But talking about overpopulation in Africa is not the same as planning the mass murder of Africans.

      Grand-Fuehrer Philip:

      If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.

      Prince Philip has no ability to return to earth as a killer virus in his next life, and no ability to kill millions in this life. But in Jonesian fantasies he is, believe it or not, a towering figure at the center of world power, and therefore this quote gives us good indication of the thoughts and plans of our secret nazi masters.

      Ten years from now, we can be very certain, the Black population in Africa will be larger than it is today. Talk from Jacques Cousteau and Prince Philip about overpopulation will have done nothing whatever to reduce it.

      — Irmin

      • Jaego
        Posted May 2, 2015 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

        Well Bill Gates obviously isn’t a White Nationalist, but I’m not sure he’s pro-Black either. He famously said that his vaccine program had the chance to reduce world population by ten to fifteen percent. But aren’t vaccines supposed to save lives? Obviously the vast majority of aid workers are PC morons who are betraying their own civilization. But don’t kid yourself, the Global Elite are something very different. And I don’t mean people like Bono, he is as you described Gates. But the real Elite, the ones who really love themselves and think of themselves as Superior Beings.

        Here are some possible explanations of his very revealing comment:

        • Irmin
          Posted May 2, 2015 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

          [Gates] famously said that his vaccine program had the chance to reduce world population by ten to fifteen percent. But aren’t vaccines supposed to save lives?

          Here’s my conspiracy theory: Jones & Co. are somehow systematically lowering the IQ of the White population. I don’t know how they’re doing it, but the effects are spreading far and wide. Otherwise smart people listen to Alex and soon thereafter they mysteriously lose their ability to read.

          Here is the allegedly sinister quote:

          First, we’ve got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent, but there we see an increase of about 1.3.

          Here is how Natural News inaccurately restructures the quote for discussion purposes:

          So what does it mean when Bill Gates says “if we do a really great job on new vaccines… we could lower [world population] by 10 or 15 percent”?

          Natural News interprets this quote, after restructuring, to mean that Bill Gates is using vaccines to kill people and was bold enough to announce his crime publicly.

          Gates is no friend of Western nations; he is in favor of world government. He also accepts without question the thesis of anthropogenic global warming, which is at least debatable. We should dislike him for a variety of reasons. But he is not killing Africans with vaccines. And he did not say that he was planning to kill Africans with vaccines. Nor did he even say that he was expecting to reduce the world’s population or Africa’s population.

          He was talking about reducing population growth, not about reducing existing populations. The author of the Natural News article is either an idiot — perhaps from listening to Alex too often — or a liar, likely the former.

          Gates and other Western philanthropists believe that replicating, as best they can, First World social conditions in Africa will lower African birthrates. In particular, empowering women to be economically independent and more educated will, they believe, help lower birthrates. Contraception and abortion will also lower birthrates, which is why philanthropists in Africa and elsewhere are always talking, euphemistically, about “reproductive health services.”

          Allowing parents to have confidence that their children will survive into adulthood, and thus be able to help them in their old age, will discourage Africans from believing they need ten kids in order to be certain that two or three will still be around when they are too old and infirm to care for themselves. Hence the importance of vaccines in places with high infant-mortality rates.

          I have no idea whether they are right about most of this, and I wish they would stop meddling in Africa. But they are not trying to murder most of the continent’s inhabitants.

          Gates expects that world population will continue to grow. He believes that various measures can be deployed now to reduce the rate of population increase. He believes that there will likely be more Africans and other Third World populations at the end of his benevolent ministrations than there were before. He expects only that the increase will be lower than it would have been otherwise.

          Only someone who believes that Africa is in desperate need of rapid population growth would conclude that any of this is proof of an evil eugenicist plan.

    • Posted May 2, 2015 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

      This will be the first time, and almost certainly the last, that I defend Ruth Bader Ginsburg, but Snyder is clearly missing the point of this quote:

      Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.

      Snyder means this as proof that Ginsburg is one those nazi eugenicist elites that run the planet. But the “we” in this quote is_ us_, not Ginsburg herself: we White people (“racists”) were, Ginsburg feared, concerned about the presence of too many non-Whites among us, especially Blacks. She thought it was possible that we had legalized abortion for the purpose of ridding ourselves of some of them. We Whites are often up to no good.

      Ginsburg was not saying that she herself thought legalized abortion was a good system for killing undesirable non-Whites, but that’s what Snyder (the Jonesian antiracist and philo-Semite) thinks she was saying.

      Here is the full quote:

      JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn’t really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong.

      Nothing in this quote means what Snyder thinks it means.

      If you want to analyze this quote seriously, you cannot be an antiracist conspiracy theorist.

      You have to understand that Ginsburg is a Jewish feminist. As a feminist, she wanted legalized abortions. But as a Jew who dislikes Whites, she was worried that legalized abortion might cause a precipitous decline in the Black population, which would be good for us and therefore bad for her. Thankfully, from her perspective, it turned out that conservative Republicans were hostile to funding abortion and therefore her suspicions were allayed.

      Decades after Roe there were still enough Blacks to stage successful riots in Ferguson and Baltimore. That’s good news, if you favor anti-White race riots.

  20. Dutch
    Posted May 2, 2015 at 3:44 am | Permalink

    Don’t get me wrong, I am not attacking Greg. I greatly appreciate his work and will continue to read it. But he is also a little bit of a Platonist monk, alone in his monastery cell, praying to his God, the Pure White Race and he won’t let messy political reality come between him and his abstract God. The author is correct that a lot about Jones is seemingly preposterous, like his Bilderberg ramblings. But Jones is attacking the right enemy, the “globalists”. I cannot help thinking that Jones is a little bit smarter than the author and Greg wold care to admit.

    The most important thing about Jones is that he is **implicitly white**, because defending the Constitution is only in the interest of the Europeans, where the rest wants ‘gimme dat’, meaning a strong state to bring it to them. The Tea Party is officially ‘color-blind’, but in practice, only the Euros show up. That is a fact that shouldn’t be ignored. You want a European ethno-state? Jones is open for secession, that’s the only way to achieve your objective.

    The expectation is that once the secession process will be underway in conflict with Washington, probably after the fall of the dollar, the ‘constitutionalist revolution’ will automatically get racialist undertones, because all the coloreds will side with Washington.

    Alex Jones is all you got folks, at least for the moment. He has the numbers, not WN.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted May 2, 2015 at 10:09 am | Permalink

      I see the same delusional patterns in your thinking, and in the political fantasies of the WN supporters of Pat Buchanan for President, Ron Paul for President, and Rand Paul for President, and of course in the Putin fangirls. In every case, our people, who are desperate to believe that someone big and established is on our side, insist that such individuals are “implicitly” or maybe even “secretly” on our side. Everything these people say and do that opposes white interests is then interpreted as a deep Machiavellian game of deception being played by our white hero, who will rip off the mask and implement our policies once he gains power. Or, if he is in power, we are assured that someday, when conditions are right, he will do something that might actually redound to the interests of the white race. Until then, our pure-hearted hero must “play the game.” In fact, the only game of deception here is self-deception. Until our movement matures, we will be plagued by this nonsense. Better to stay “pure,” that is to say, based on reason and reality, rather than adulterate ourselves with “unrealpolitik,” i.e., lies and delusions in order to imaginatively identify ourselves with a mainstream figure.

      • Harry Savannah
        Posted May 2, 2015 at 10:29 am | Permalink

        …that such individuals are “implicitly” or maybe even “secretly” on our side.

        Ha! All-at-once this reminded me when very young (pretty young), I thought this very thing about…wait for it…Ronald Reagan.

        I thought all would get a laugh out of that.

      • Theodore
        Posted May 2, 2015 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

        Absolutely brilliant and concise summary of many points I’ve tried to make on my own blogs. I’m going to link to this at EGI notes.

    • Posted May 2, 2015 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

      I cannot help thinking that Jones is a little bit smarter than the author and Greg would care to admit

      I don’t dispute his abilities or his intelligence. I am certain, on the hand, that his antiracism is genuine.

      Laura Ingraham is actually closer to WN than Jones. She will at least argue sanely that we have a cultural stake in opposing invasion. That perhaps isn’t much, but it is better than fantasies about worldwide eugenics and secret nazi elites.

      — Irmin

  21. C. Magnus
    Posted May 4, 2015 at 3:08 am | Permalink

    First time poster and admirer of Counter Currents. It seems to me as though the Alex Joneses of the world think on quite a different level from us, theirs is a world of blunt force, black and white opposites, tyrants exploiting hapless masses, and followed by those not intellectually at the level able to understand more subtle yet important concepts such as metapolitics and culture wars. This is in addition to having a truly bizarre take on things as the article here showed. Really a different demographic.

    As was said, we don’t have great need for conspiracy theories. If you believe in the concept of ethnic genetic interests, this does not require a conspiracy theory. The story of the scorpion and the frog, for instance – it is simply in the nature of the scorpion to sting the frog. The fact that the interests of blacks, Jews and whites will often be in conflict requires no conspiracy, as conspiracy suggests willful acts that were premeditated. Of course there are quite obvious conspiracies when it comes to media censoring of race realism and the Jewish Question, they are evident to anyone with basic perceptive abilities – one could simply have another interpretation, that this is the natural consequence of Jews acting in their interests with the power they have.

    I watched a talk recently on youtube with Gilad Atzmon at a Japanese university. In it he discusses Milton Friedman, he says he was ‘not a bad guy’ he simply advocated for economic policies that facilitated the services economy and banking at the expense of manufacturing, as that is what he is familiar with as a Jew. The implication being that he was simply unaware of the harmful consequences of his policies to the majority whites and simply did what made sense to him. Either way, the damage was done, willfully (or conspiratorially) or not, as a consequence of Jews being given the power to make decisions that affect the rest of us.

    • Verlis
      Posted May 4, 2015 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

      I think you’re trying too hard to be a ‘good WN.’ Firstly, there is no unanimity of opinion whatsoever among non-Jewish economists that Friedman’s economic prescriptions have done long-term damage. To speak as though there is such unanimity of opinion is to allow your ideological inclinations to crowd out your objectivity. Secondly, it would be simplicity itself to find a Jewish economist whose views are diametrically opposed to Friedman’s. If Friedman’s economics are harmful then their diametric opposite must be beneficial (there isn’t room for ‘neutrality’ in this sense in economics). How is it that this diametrically opposed Jewish economist could to harm white interests through his prescriptions? And if this economist could do other than harm then why could not Friedman likewise ‘escape his biology’? Far be it for me to defend Jewish behavior, but this particular line of attack is intellectually untenable.

  22. Dutch
    Posted May 4, 2015 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    Here absolute proof that Alex Jones knows the truth and is ‘sick and tired’ of it:

    [1:50] and elsewhere

    Alex Jones is a politician and needs to strategize.
    Political success is paramount; speaking the truth, that’s for the memoirs.

  23. Irmin
    Posted May 4, 2015 at 7:13 pm | Permalink


    If you believe the Jews planned together, worked together, conspired together to overthrow our Civilization, then you are a Conspiracy Theorist.

    (a) Jews have great wealth and power; (b) Jews are, for a variety of reasons, hostile to people of European descent; (c) Jews have high levels of ethnocentrism and often act collectively in their own perceived group interests.

    It seems to me that anyone who accepts the preceding propositions will know enough to understand most Jewish political behavior without the need or temptation to posit any formal conspiracy.

    (a) is important, because it means that (b) and (c) are highly consequential. It is barely possible that Bulgarian-Americans are just as hostile and just as ethnocentric as Jews, but since Bulgarian-Americans are not wealthy and powerful, any aggressive ethnocentrism and any hostility they may harbor would have little effect on the rest of us.

    A conspiracy theory that alleged that a secret conclave of Learned Elders of Zion met monthly to plot the destruction of Western civilization would be false, but unlike Jonesian conspiracy theory, it would often be predictive. It might as well be true, since the results of a formal Jewish conspiracy and the results of largely informal Jewish political behavior would be roughly the same.

    Jonesian conspiracy theory, unlike an anti-Jewish conspiracy theory, is not predictive. The claim that Queen Elizabeth and Bill Gates, along with other powerful Satan-worshipping white supremacists, are trying to eradicate most non-Whites as part of a eugenicist plot is inconsistent with the actual growth of Third World populations and with the policy of so many Western governments of importing millions from the Third World into historically White Western nations.

    In a more sane culture the only serious debate on this subject would be whether Jewish political behavior is the principal cause of Western decline or whether it is only one important cause among a variety of similarly consequential causes. No one would be disputing that Jewish power causes bad effects to us, because it so clearly does.


    Auster’s surprisingly strong essay on Jews is worth reading:

    • Verlis
      Posted May 4, 2015 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

      You need to include ‘influence’ in (a). Influence in large part results from wealth and power, but the Jewish case is special in that whites have internalized the belief that criticizing Jews is immoral. It is this belief, rather than Jewish wealth and power per se, that prevents whites from even noticing Jewish anti-whitism. It is not inconceivable that Muslims could one day amass as much wealth and power as Jews, but it’s extremely doubtful that anxiety about ‘Islamophobia’ would ever match anxiety about ‘anti-semitism.’

    • Jaego
      Posted May 5, 2015 at 4:31 am | Permalink

      Good posts. You defend the “conventional” positions well. It’s seems pretty hopeless at this point but for the record, I’m not an Alex Jones clone or defending his position on Jews and White Nationalism. I simply believe as he does that the Elite have class interests and moving to secure the ownership and control of the world that they think they are entitled to. And they are going to use the excess Black African population to deadly effect, even as they begin to work simultaneously to decrease their population. I answered your vaccine post but it didn’t go through. My main point was that Bill Gates and Co may well understand Black intellectual inferiority. Gates is known to be obsessed with IQ. But since he is a globalist and not a nationalist, he’s not going to say anything since he doesn’t want to strengthen our memes at all. Knowing something is one thing and interpreting it and acting on it is something else again. Those are based on one’s philosophy of life and personal and social interests. As for the vaccines themselves, you made a good point about Gates’ statement, but many experts have grave doubts about the safety of vaccines now. He’s being sued about one such case.

      Perhaps we define conspiracy differently, but I see them as existential and inescapable. If people conspire (and any two people will about the absent third), then one will have conspiracy theories (good or bad) about their conspiracy; much as one can’t do physics without theories about physics. Something simple and well known does not garner theory. Like Caesar’s assassination. Kennedy’s is a different story. The genocide of the White Race is explained away as a function of global economics. We need good conspiracy theory to defeat this – such as pointing out that Japan and Korea are global players and have not accepted vast numbers of 3rd Worlders. That’s an opening gambit to open people up for the rest of it.

      Anyway, thanks for the thoughtful responses.

  24. Hammerheart
    Posted May 6, 2015 at 1:44 am | Permalink

    I am completely on the outside looking in on conspiracy theory psychology. It is 100% opaque to me. I was just reading on dailystormer a guy’s comment that only whites get conspiracy theory (ie he was a 100% True Believer). Conversely, to disbelieve in consp theo i guess damages one’s credibility. It’s one hell of a problem, to me literally a form of craziness. Btw Clyde Lewis in OR spews this insanity every week on his show that’s on 5-6 days a week on many radio stations. Someone else commented ‘most of us got into WN via 9/11 conspiracy’. I just don’t get it.

  25. Hammerheart
    Posted May 6, 2015 at 1:57 am | Permalink

    Conspiracy theory works on the White Psychopathology in a way I simply don’t understand. If it it was relatively straightforward, it would be a piece of cake to sell the ‘Jewish conspiracy’, but whites flock to the Alex Jones type insanity (Irmin-Jaego exchange). I very nearly didn’t end up in the WN camp because of the Conspiracy Theory crowd–years ago i went, ‘Yeah, but 80-90% of these people are genuinely CRAZY.’

  26. Eikos
    Posted May 6, 2015 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Their refusal to acknowledge the jewish takeover means they’ve got to pretend that it’s still the pro-eugenics, anti-colored, WASP elite running things. Their worldview is built on this giant, ridiculous, lie

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