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The Neo-Conservative Rambo 
Anders Behring Breivik

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German translation here, Portuguese translation here

White Nationalists, European nationalists, counter-jihadists, immigration restrictionists, even the Tea Party are being smeared by being “linked” and “associated” with accused Norwegian spree-killer Anders Behring Breivik.

Most of these links exist only in the minds of dishonest leftists (and Kosher conservatives) seeking to squeeze political advantage from the corpses of teenagers.

But some linkages are real — as real as anything on the internet can be. For instance, I immediately recognized the above photo of Breivik because I have seen it on Facebook a couple of times. (At the time of the attack, he had more than 7,000 Facebook friends.)

I remember him distinctly because of his photos, which look like professional modeling shots, not the typical candid snaps people use for their Facebook avatars.

I recall looking at his profile and deciding that he was not really in sync with the Counter-Currents agenda. He described himself as conservative and Christian (which are not necessarily red flags), but he aligned himself with Europe’s philo-Semitic anti-Islamic movement (which is a very big red flag, and often a Jewish false one at that).

Also, the second time I encountered Breivik’s picture on Facebook, I noticed that his name had been changed. After his picture appeared in news stories, I found it on Facebook under yet a third name (a name other than Anders Behring Breivik), but when I searched again a few minutes later, I could not find that profile.

This gave me an uneasy feeling: There are far too many ideological shape- and name-shifters in our milieu, and these behaviors are usually correlated with a high degree of narcissism as well as deeper psychological disorders. (I get the same creepy vibe from people who change their Facebook avatars a lot.) I have learned from bitter experience that nothing good for our race and cause comes out of association with the insane, so I prefer to err on the side of caution and avoid people who show signs of flakiness.

Initially, I held off writing about Breivik because his motives were not clear. Then Kevin Slaughter scooped the whole world of journalism by bringing Breivik’s rationale to light: 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, a 1,518 page manifesto outlining his worldview and the plans for his attacks. Breivik also created a very well-made video that summarizes his views and illustrates them with effective images. (These were published under the name Andrew Berwick. The book indicates London as the place of publication. The photos in the back, however, are of Anders Breivik.)

Although the crimes of which Breivik is accused bring to mind the Oklahoma City bombing, Breivik’s carefully worked-out manifesto is more in the style of “Unabomber” Ted Kaczynski (although Breivik is not as deep a thinker; nor, unfortunately, is he as concise).

Breivik is a European nationalist whose primary concern is Islamic colonization. He is a conservative, an anti-Communist and opponent of  “cultural Marxism,” a Freemason, a Christian who sees Christianity as a cultural force for the unification of Europe against Islam (but obviously not a Christian fundamentalist as claimed by the mainstream media), a philo-Semite and pro-Zionist, an anti-racist, and an anti-National Socialist, who constantly uses Nazism as a paradigm for evil. (Breivik calls Adolf Hitler “the Great Satan” and blames him for our race’s decline.)

Although the North American New Right belongs to the same genus, Euro-Nationalist, I can’t imagine a more fundamentally different species than Breivik, for at the core of his thinking is an intellectual (or, more likely, moral) failing that makes it possible to embrace Jewry (and one of its tentacles, Freemasonry) while fighting its consequences (“cultural Marxism,” the Islamization of Europe) and maligning National Socialism and other forms of Euro-Nationalism that get to the root of the problem.

Breivik in Freemason gear

Breivik’s aim was, apparently, to spark a new crusade to drive Islam out of Europe. His model is the Knights Templar, one of the spiritual-military orders that rolled back Islam during the Crusades. Breivik’s photo of himself in masonic garb is clearly based on the Masonic claim of descent from the Knights Templar.

Breivik devotes countless pages to outlining in detail the structure of his new Knights Templar, complete with ranks, oaths, rituals, and actual prototypes of uniforms and medals. Anyone familiar with role-playing games will immediately recognize this type of literature.

How, precisely, did Breivik think that he could resurrect the Knights Templar and spark a Europe-wide crusade against Islam by gunning down teenagers? Well, perhaps I speed-read right by it, but I did not see a connection.

Breivik has erected a skyscraper of words, but the elevators do not go all the way to the top. He spent 300,000 Euros (!) preparing for his operation, but left a gap between his means and ultimate ends that you could drive a truck bomb through.

Breivik’s tome also includes tips for looking your best for photo shoots. Which makes me wonder: Was the disconnect between Breivik’s political aims and his actions bridged by the sheer narcissism of this smug but deadly dork?

Was Breivik so captivated by his logic, his rhetoric, and his snazzy uniforms that he thought that millions of European men would rise up to follow him after he splattered the addled liberal brains of enough high-school students? When the crusade does not materialize, do you think that he will merely conclude that he needed to kill just a few more people, or maybe spend more time in a tanning bed? Did all these people die because a wealthy, alienated nerd was consumed by his own fantasy world?

If Breivik is indeed the perpetrator of the Norway killings, then I have a very simple message for him: You have done far more, and far worse, than killing 90-odd Norwegians, as terrible as that may be. You have set back the cause of saving the white race as a whole from extinction. For the predictable consequences of this sort of pointless terrorism do not include the revival of the Knights Templar. Rather, they include (1) political crackdowns on dissenters, and (2) increased public resistance to our message by normal people, who are repulsed by mass murder, especially of cute blonde teenagers.

Breivik in his custom-made modern Templar-crusader uniform

Yes, of course this climate of opinion is being manipulated by our enemies. Yes, our enemies get away with far worse crimes all the time. Yes, it does not have the be this way. But still, this is the reality of the situation. They have the power to smear us, so of course they are going to use it. Terrorism is a fight we cannot win, in the realm of politics or in the realm of publicity. And only a fool picks a fight he cannot win.

And why, in the name of Odin, did the killer choose to target teenagers? (Who are being spun by the media into “children” and “kids” for extra horror.) Yes, there was a certain logic to targeting a youth camp for the ruling social democratic Labor Party. Like all traitorous Western elites, the Norwegian Labor Party condemns ordinary Norwegians to being preyed upon by Third World thieves, rapists, and murderers, whom they import and coddle. Yet they shelter themselves and their families from the chaos the inflict on others. Breivik may have decided to show these hypocrites that they are not invulnerable, that they cannot insulate themselves from the consequences of their own actions.

If that was his intended message, then it was perfectly futile. The Oklahoma City bombing and the 9/11 terrorist attacks proved that the United States government and its functionaries are not invulnerable to the consequences of their actions either. But if these attacks produced one second of moral reflection in the citadels of power, a single moment of clarity about the evil and hubris of American policy, I have yet to see any sign of it. Instead, it produced just more domestic repression and foreign adventurism: more lies, more wars, more victims.

The Neo-Conservative Rambo. Note the “Marxist Hunter” shoulder patch

Yes, 9/11 did manage to wake up a lot of Americans, but the Oklahoma City bombing was a huge setback to the patriot and militia movements. Again, only a fool picks a fight he cannot win. If all you can do is wound a monster, then you are better off leaving it alone.

In the aftermath of the attempt to smear American Renaissance by linking it to Arizona spree killer Jared Lee Loughner, I argued (here and here) that armed struggle against our enemies is futile, because they are stronger than us. It is also unnecessary, because they are pursing policies that will weaken and destroy themselves in the long run.

I also argued that merely verbal condemnations of violence by White Nationalists have no intellectual or moral credibility. The only credible step we can take to avoid senseless and counter-productive killing sprees like Breivik’s is to stop coddling the insane among us. Elitism needs to begin at home.



  1. Posted July 24, 2011 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Mr. Johnson,

    Your answers are all in the Manifesto! Maybe you may wish to go back and give it a thourough impartial enquiry; before getting upset about the Dunning and Kruger Primacy Effect Moron’s opinions.

    Another perspective: “I nominate Anders Behring Breivik for Eurabia Code Black Swan Nobel Sainthood” – Lara Johnstone, Norwegian-SA; Radical Honesty SA

  2. Son of Wotan
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Greg, I respect you as an excellent writer and advocate for our Folk, but you are plain wrong about 9-11 and Oklahoma City. They were clearly CIA/Mossad False Flag Operations. What happened in Norway has all the marks of Mossad written on it also. Never under-estimate the deception of our enemies.

    • Michael Bell
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 11:11 am | Permalink

      If he is plain wrong, then can you provide any evidence to substantiate your claim that the ever-so-omnipresent Mossad is behind this incident?

      It’s not wise to automatically assume that any kind of attack against the establishment can ONLY be the work of the Mossad or CIA. When we preach these kinds of conspiracy theories we only turn people away.

    • Posted July 25, 2011 at 12:06 am | Permalink

      Greg, I respect you as an excellent writer and advocate for our Folk, but you are plain wrong about 9-11 and Oklahoma City.

      I used to, but not anymore. He had some interesting ideas. But Greg is obviously a smart guy, and well educated, so the idea that he is simply ignorant of 911 is untenable. Which means, he is lying.

      Now, let’s openly discuss the fact that Greg actively promotes Harold Covington, the most ridiculous nutjob obvious Hal Turner-style nonsense “false flag” since the 1990s.

      Greg’s a liar. I can only speculate about his motivations. I was very impressed with all this alt-right style literature he posts – even the “esoteric Hitler” stuff which I find about as useful as Traditionalist Catholicism – but if he insists that we pretend World Trade Center 7 blew up all by itself – he’s either a liar, or an idiot.

      Greg’s smart, he’s not an idiot. So it’s pretty damn obvious what is going on here.

      Hey Greg – say hi to Harold Covington – LOL. Traitor.

      • Greg Johnson
        Posted July 25, 2011 at 12:38 am | Permalink

        “William Years” shares the same physical address as “Andrea Merciless” along some god-forsaken stretch of County Road . . . in Kansas. People need to put this obvious troll/nutjob on their ignore lists.

        • Alexander
          Posted July 25, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

          Greg, I don’t even know why you would give such a silly the dignity of a reply.

          • Greg Johnson
            Posted July 25, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

            I’m funny that way.

      • Posted July 25, 2011 at 10:06 am | Permalink

        @ “Greg’s smart, he’s not an idiot. So it’s pretty damn obvious what is going on here. Hey Greg – say hi to Harold Covington – LOL. Traitor.”

        Emotional tantrums like those I have witnessed among many conspiracy theorists if you happen to be skeptical about their pet theory, not only 911 “truthers” but believers in Oliver Stone’s stupid film on JFK; the “staged” Apollo Moon Landings; the sightings of Elvis Presley—a conspiracy theory suggesting that, like some theories on bin Laden, he is still alive—, or the 1947 UFO “landing” in New Mexico, ought to be enough to suspect that something has gone horribly wrong with the cognitive process of the fanatic theorist.

        I used to believe that those racially conscious were smarter than counter-jihadists. But on the topic of Al Qaeda, militant Muslims, bin Laden and 9/11 the curious reader will find much saner information in anti-Islamic sites, such as Robert Spencer’s Jihad Watch.

        This can only mean that some members of the embryonic WN movement have still to grow up…

  3. Posted July 24, 2011 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Why on earth would Mossad orchestrate something like this? The ruling party of Norway– the ones whose youth bridgade Breivik slaughtered– are critical of Israel and want a Palestinian state. Breivik, on the other hand, seems to be a philo-Semite, if anything. Thus, this massacre actually runs the risk of making Zionism look bad.

    • Laconophile
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 11:58 am | Permalink

      Killing members of the ruling Norwegian political party isn’t exactly doing them a favor, even if it creates some sympathy for them. And Breivik is only an anti-racist, philo-semitic, zionist to those few people who don’t get their news from Jews. To the rest, Breivik is a racist-right-wing nazi-christian, who probably wants to be on an island with 6 million Jews.

  4. Mishko Novosel
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Ummmm, this can’t just be a coincidence can it?

    The King David Hotel bombing was an attack carried out by the militant right-wing Zionist underground organization Irgun on the King David Hotel in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946.[1][2] 91 people of various nationalities were killed and 46 were injured

    • Fourmyle of Ceres
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 11:34 am | Permalink

      Mishko in blockquote:

      Ummmm, this can’t just be a coincidence can it?

      Of course it can, and it is.

      The King David Hotel bombing was an attack carried out by the militant right-wing Zionist underground organization Irgun on the King David Hotel in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946.[1][2] 91 people of various nationalities were killed and 46 were injured

      Anything else ever happen on 22 July in history?

      What you are doing is trite, and foolish. You are ascribing – what, exactly? – the power of vast, transnational conspiracies to a random act linked to a man?

      The quality of analysis you display is par for the course, for Self-Identified White Nationalists. Are you stating there is an explicit linkage between the bombing of the King David Hotel and this event? An implicit linkage? Direct? Indirect? How? Magic?

      The problem is, those who blame “the Jews/the Mossad/the Internationalist Bankers/the INSIDERS” for all of the challenges facing us, do their work FOR them, by making them appear all-powerful, and us appearing helpless, Child-like fools.

      As Peter Shank, the best analyst we have said, “What would do if all of these people you complain about went away, magically, tonight? What stops you from doing that?”

      Although, it is rather fitting that, like a Child imputing vast, nebulous forces to a mundane act, you do so to compensate for your own lack of effectiveness. This way, like a Child, you get to be a Victim, while rejoicing in your Extra-Special Super-Secret knowledge of the vastness of the transnational forces you choose to see us as helpless in the face of.

      Don’t rationalize your foolish choices, and your resulting ineffectiveness, at our expense, and the expense of the Truth. Go back to playing Lucy’s Rules Football, Charlie Brown, and leave the work of Adults to your betters.

      What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest

      • John Norman Howard
        Posted July 25, 2011 at 8:01 am | Permalink

        The problem is, those who blame “the Jews/the Mossad/the Internationalist Bankers/the INSIDERS” for all of the challenges facing us, do their work FOR them, by making them appear all-powerful, and us appearing helpless, Child-like fools.


        Geez, if anyone honestly thinks that 9/11 was a Mossad/CIA conspiracy, and that they were able to pull it off and keep it quiet all these years, then what’s the point of fighting for the White race? We’re doomed, and our enemies are too omniscient and omnipotent.

  5. Posted July 24, 2011 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    One of the most important things to realize is that this is not a very inelligent man; many comments on the internet reveal that people are impressed by the length of the “manifesto”, but most of it is plagiarized, “copy-and-paste”, and what he self has written (at most a couple of hundred pages) is mostly silly nonsense. And remember, he actually uses “emoticons” (“smileys”), and lots of them, in a political “manifesto”!

    Take a few examples:
    [From his C.V., in the manifesto]

    “Watch sport: Only women’s sand volley ball:P Perhaps I would if Norway didn’t suck so hard in footbal
    Name of your primary weapon: Mjöllnir
    Name of your side arm: Gungnir”

    “Q: Do you party a lot and what about a girlfriend/wife?

    A: I have partied a lot since I was 16 and I still do (with the exception of the five last year’s where I have lived a lot more ascetic). We just celebrated my friend Peters 30th birthday with five of my best friends (total of 12 people) in Budapest. We spent five days there partying and celebrating. I haven’t consumed that many Absolute and Redbulls since I was in Las Vegas;) ”

    “Q: Name your favourite; a. music, b. destination, c. possession or item with high affection value, d. clothing brand, e. au de toilette, f. ball sport, g. football team, h. comedian, i. food, j. movie, k. type of architecture and interior design direction, l. beer, m. drink, n. books

    [ … ]
    c. My Ipod + my Breitling Crosswind, chronograph.

    Also my collection of oil/air brush paintings I had custom made from the best graffiti artist in Norway, Coderock. It’s a collection and recreation of 12 paintings. I’ve given two of them to friends.
    [ … ]

    l. Budweiser (the real Czech Bud, not the American piss water:P)

    m. Red Bull + Absolute

    n. George Orwell – Nineteen Eighty-Four, Thomas Hobbes – Leviathan, John Stuart Mill – On Liberty, John Locke – Essay Concerning Human Understanding, Adam Smith – The Wealth of Nations, Edmund Burke – Reflections on the Revolution in France, Ayn Rand – Atlas Shrugged, The Fountainhead, William James – Pragmatism, Carl von Clausewitz – On War, Fjordman – Defeating Eurabia

    Other important books I’ve read (in random order):

    The Bible, Avesta, Quran, Hadith, Plato – The Republic, Niccolò Machiavelli – The Prince, William Shakespeare – First Folio, Immanuel Kant – Critique of Pure Reason, Homer – Iliad and Odyssey, Dante Alighieri – The Divine Comedy, Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels – Communist Manifesto, Charles Darwin – The Origin of Species, Leo Tolstoy – War and Peace, Franz Kafka – The Trial, Arnold Joseph Toynbee – A Study of History”

    “Approximately 50% of my female friends end up under the definition/category; promiscuous (female sluts) as they have engaged in sexual activity with more than 20 partners.” (p. 1173)

    “Although I have had a change of mentality a majority of my friends have not. My stepfather Tore, one of my best friends Marius and my more distant friends Kristoffer, Sturla and Ronny are all living manifestations of the complete breakdown of sexual moral. All five have had more than 300 sexual partners (two of them more than 700) and I know for a fact that three of them have one or more STDs (probably all of them). I have several other promiscuous (slut) friends and I could list at least 30 male and females in my social environment if I wanted to. I don’t blame them personally and it has absolutely nothing to do with envy. I could easily have chosen the same path if I wanted to, due to my looks, status, resourcefulness and charm. It’s just terribly sad that my country have been the victim of severe Marxist infiltration leading to the political doctrines which have been allowed to destroy all moral and norms, resulting in the complete breakdown of our once great ethical standards.

    My half sister, Elisabeth was infected by chlamydia after having more than 40 sexual partners (more than 15 Chippendales’ strippers who are known to be bearers of various diseases). Her chlamydia went untreated and she became one of several million US/European women who were suffering from PID, Pelvic inflammatory disease caused by untreated gonorrhea and chlamydia which leads to infertility. As she lives in the US, costs relating to this were not covered by the state. She and her husband spent 40 000-50 000 USD on two IVF treatments (in vitriol fertilisation) a process by which egg cells are fertilised by sperm outside the womb. She was lucky compared to many as these treatments may cost upwards of 100 000 USD. Furthermore, as far as I know, due to her condition as a result of the untreated disease, she needed a caesarean section for both childbirths. The last c-section almost killed her due to complications and she needed blood transfusion of more than 5 litres of blood in total. It is unknown if her two children suffered from pneumonia and conjunctivitis and other problems in infants born with chlamydia transmitted from my sister during childbirth.

    My mother was infected by genital herpes by her boyfriend (my stepfather), Tore, when she was 48. Tore, who was a captain in the Norwegian Army, had more than 500 sexual partners and my mother knew this but suffered from lack of good judgement and moral due to several factors (media – glorification of certain stereotypes being one). Unfortunately for her, her poor judgment resulted in her being afflicted by genital herpes. In addition to this, the herpes infection went to her brain and caused meningitis (this condition is usually rare and occurs in less than 1% of herpes infected individuals). As a result of this brain infection, which prevented the spinal fluid from flowing freely, she had to operate a shunt into her brain as the herpes attacks occurred regularly. She was forced into early retirement as a result and her life quality has been significantly reduces since, and she now has the intellectual capacity of a 10 year old. Her STD has not only cause her much hardships, but it has also cost her and the state up to 1 million Euro.

    Both my sister and my mother have not only shamed me but they have shamed themselves and our family. A family that was broken in the first place due to secondary effects of the feministic/sexual revolution. I can only imagine how many people are suffering from STDs as a result of the current lack of sexual moral.

    This mentality is clearly not sustainable and if we are to have any desire to salvage our civilisation we must ensure that we implement political doctrines to prevent AND reverse the current development.”

    Who but an idiot includes this in a manifesto before killing almost a hundred teenagers from his own country?

    This is not the work of a great mind; this is the work of a thirteen-year-old who has played too many video games, trapped in a thirty-two-year-old’s body. The comparison to UNA-bomber is way off: UNA-bomber had a measured IQ of 167 (!) at age fifteen and wrote a brilliant manifesto (even if what he did was not moral) with deep insights in human nature and society. Compare that to infantile neo-con Breivik’s moron writings about himself.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

      I don’t think he is stupid. I think he is insane.

      • Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

        Well, then we do disagree on this one, Greg. I agree that he is insane, but believe he is also quite stupid. The very little part of the manifesto he has written himself, and not just copied from other neocons, are just about trivial things like his drinking habits and his friends sexual habits. And he uses video-game-like referenses to his own status – actually brags about taking a year off just to play “WoW”. One of his major achievments, in his own opinion, is being a member of some online video game club. I have not read one word of his that displays the slightest intelligence. And he is very impressed by Zionist writer “Fjordman”, whose writings actually makes up most of the manifesto.

        He certainly holds very high opinions of himself, but without reason. Read through the last couple of hundred pages of the manifesto, the Q-and-A section, which he has written himself, and then make up your mind regarding his intelligence.

        • Greg Johnson
          Posted July 24, 2011 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

          Maybe we need a third concept here. I don’t think he is stupid, but I definitely agree that he is silly. There is a deep lack of seriousness to all of his words and deeds, even though they glance on serious matters. If he were serious, he would not be living in a fantasy world as he obviously does. He obviously has a high IQ, but like many intelligent people, it is not balanced with common sense and it is unbalanced with psychological problems. Combine with money and a permissive society and one arrives at a deadly cocktail indeed.

          Also, on a deep psychological level, I think he really did not believe that victory is possible. If he did, he would have behaved in a much more serious and sober fashion. Instead, he just tried to inflict maximum psychological pain on the Norwegian ruling party. But he did not inflict real political damage on the system. Why didn’t he try? Because on some level he did not think it is possible.

          How is it that we have so many people in our movement who intellectually understand that we are dealing with the most serious matter possible, namely the extinction of nature’s highest and fairest species, and yet they act like infantile fools? It is because, deep down, they do not believe they can win, so they just indulge their emotions.

          • Trainspotter
            Posted July 24, 2011 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

            Very insightful post, Greg. Assuming no false flags, I think you may have nailed it.

          • Posted July 24, 2011 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

            out of everyone here posting comments. You seem to be the only one I think that has it right. It seems more like he thought it was hopeless and decided to take out those he knew were the enemy. It does not help the cause but I doubt it will hurt as much as everyone seems to think it will. We will see.

          • Lew
            Posted July 25, 2011 at 10:21 am | Permalink

            Apparently, his emphasis on video games and other silliness was part of his ruse. The idea was to intentionally appear unserious to deflect potential scrutiny.

            • Greg Johnson
              Posted July 25, 2011 at 11:40 am | Permalink

              I think that he was actually taking the video role-playing games into the real world.

              • WG
                Posted July 25, 2011 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

                The real question here is: if he is not insane, stupid, or silly (none of which looks likely), then what is he?!

                You guys can’t avoid the question forever.

                The Real Horror, which you keep avoiding, is the possibility that he is Just Like You.

                Only thing is, he took it One Step Futher.

                And that scares the hell out of you.

                Understandably so.

                Embrace it.

                Funny thing is: I’m on your side, am involved in your organizations, and totally support the Cause ($$$).

                • Greg Johnson
                  Posted July 25, 2011 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

                  I call troll.

    • Laconophile
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

      In vitriol fertilization? Clearly he isn’t a master at English.

      • Greg Johnson
        Posted July 24, 2011 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

        Considering that it was at best a second language, his skills are quite impressive.

        • Laconophile
          Posted July 24, 2011 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

          He had good genes on his side as well.

  6. Lew
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    His kill spree has advanced the interests of Western Elites and their program of White genocide. He has made it more likely people will continue to choose multiculturalism not less. That fact that his actions have advanced elite interests is credible evidence in support of the false flag theory.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 11:50 am | Permalink

      Unfortunately, there is no shortage of defectives in our own ranks who do stupid things that strengthen the system’s grip on us, and they do them absolutely for free.

      • Lew
        Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

        True enough. I’m not saying there is conclusive evidence here that his attack was a false flag just that it advanced elite interests in a way that is consistent with one. He pulled off a pretty sophisticated attack for an unstable person acting alone.

        • Greg Johnson
          Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

          Yes, the sheer numbers of dead are rather astonishing.

          Many crazy people are quite rational about means and planning. It is just their ends that are nutty. In this case, the disconnect between the killing spree and what he wanted to set off. I have seen this kind of thinking before. It is a combination of narcissism and mania.

          When an essentially narcissistic personality gets inflated by mania, it often produces delusions of grandeur and invincibility.

      • Laconophile
        Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

        Like those Nazi Germans?

        “If it wasn’t for those damned Nazis tarnishing our movement, David Duke would be president!”

        Their ‘crimes’ were fabricated by Jews, and their ‘defectiveness’ fabricated by Jewish psychologists. Why can’t it happen again?

  7. Posted July 24, 2011 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Son of Wotan,

    I am so allergic to conspiracy theories that yesterday I did the unthinkable: I posted a comment at Occidental Dissent linking to a recent entry at my blog praising Hunter Wallace for avoiding to fall into this intellectual trap.


    I will repeat here what I have said at Majority Rights. Yesterday at TOO I posted a comment I received from a tough nationalist that no one has dared to respond at TOO (only at my blogsite). I am intrigued by similar views by Wandrin at TOO and at Occidental Dissent. Although I titled my first post on this subject “No White Nationalist would open fire on White kids”, I still have to figure out how to respond to this man who posted the following at my Facebook page:

    They deserved it.

    Terrorism is when you deliberately target non-combatant civilians in order to extract certain demands. Anders Behring Breivik did not do that. He did not target the Muslim or ethnic quarters of Oslo which motivated his actions, he targeted those parties directly responsible.

    What sort of “democracy” is it which weans its future political leaders from a narrow group of teenagers whom are all ideologically motivated both within and by an ideologically biased, Cultural Marxist educational system? – That is not a “democracy”, that is a single party state.

    If you make ethno-masochist Marxist Extremists out of Norwegian teenagers it’s no different from making boy soldiers out of Congolese minors.

    They were all legitimate military targets of political interest, no different from when the United States, or Israel or NATO eliminates Islamic leaders in Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine.

    These were all legitimate military targets and this was a completely justified act of war by Norwegian National Resistance Forces.

    Whilst I cannot speak for Mr. Breivik’s Zionist leanings, as Nationalists, our only regret is that more enemy combatants were not killed in this, including the corrupt Prime Minister of that enemy state.

    There’s always the possibility that this starts a copycat epidemic at Europe coming from lone wolves, perhaps not unlike the scenario William Pierce envisaged in Hunter. Unlikely… just a possibility.

    If so, wouldn’t it be premature to judge this man? In other words: it all depends on us. What would have happened if by today thousands of solitary wolves had imitated the character in Hunter after Pierce published his novel? Europeans have become so amazingly feminized (this guy faces 21 years of imprisonment as the max sentence in Norway) that they are inadvertently inviting lots of Hunters to crop up in the Old World, if only a few of us could grow a pair. So feminized in fact that European nationalists could do a real breakthrough like a red-hot knife cutting thru soft butter.

    You fear a backlash on us. A very legitimate concern. But imagine that, as the system starts shutting us down after the Norway incident, these wolves start getting out of their closets. Again, I am not saying this is a likely scenario. It’s only that after that guy posted that in my Facebook page I just cannot see this case in black-and-white terms as I did when I wrote you my latest email yesterday.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 11:56 am | Permalink

      The first version of Hunter Wallace’s piece on Breivik showed that he was smitten with him. They are soulmates, after all. Breivik thought he could ignite a crusade by killing some teens. Hunter thought he could unify the White Nationalist movement behind him by snapping some cell phone pictures of Jeffrey Imm, making rambling podcasts, and eating barbecue at various CofCC events. It is the same weird combination of narcissism and manic thinking. But then Wallace’s cowardice kicked in and he started backpedaling. He doubled or tripled the length of his post with hedging and qualifications. Maybe some of his readers reminded him that he should be blaming this all on mean Vanguardists like me.

      • Posted July 24, 2011 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

        @ “The first version of Hunter Wallace’s piece on Breivik showed that he was smitten with him.”

        For those who didn’t read it I’d like to explain something. Wallace added most of the content of his article to the stub I read yesterday (which is reproduced in my blog, linked above).

        • Greg Johnson
          Posted July 24, 2011 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

          Thanks. Even with the backpedaling, the existing post and his subsequent commentary make it clear that he is smitten. Now he is comparing him to Batman. Anders Breivik: a real-life superhero, costumes and all.

      • icr
        Posted July 25, 2011 at 9:14 am | Permalink

        I feel sorry for Paul Kersey at SBPDL -I’m pretty sure he’s now regretting his association with HW.

        • Greg Johnson
          Posted July 25, 2011 at 10:02 am | Permalink

          Hunter has been joined by his friend William “the Whigger” Rome in singing the praises of Breivik:

          Rome was the other fat guy who thought he and Hunter could show White Nationalism the way forward by shooting wobbly cell phone video clips of Jeffrey Imm while tittering and shrieking at their cleverness.

          Later Rome had a spectacular public meltdown and disappeared from OD after revealing that he is a happy product of a race-mixing family, replete with mulattos, collards, chitlins, and gangsta rap. He wondered where his kind would fit in the White Republic. “What can White Nationalism offer me?” he whined. “Pain” was my reply — in a mean, vanguardy mood.

          You really can spot the crazies by their reactions to one another. They must vibrate at the same frequency. Again: the pattern I see is narcissism + an overactive fantasy life + an infusion of mania = delusions of grandeur and invincibility. Is this what is called an egomaniac? I think there is more to it than that.

          Predictably, Yggdrasil chimed in on the same thread.

          Denise is now the voice of reason over at OD. That really says it all.

          You guys have gone completely mental. You decry the VNN crowd – but your slavering hero worship of this CRETIN makes them look polished, calm, and sensible.

          This Anders creature has obviously awakened the Vangardist bloodlust you’ve long surpressed.

          I’m going to TRY to get this concept across, again. Perhaps it may sink in after the euphoria settles. NORMAL people don’t care a whit about political ideology. Normal People never do. Normal people will SEE lots of Nice Sweet Dead Kids. Their politics mena NOTHING, to the Average TV viewer. They will SEE Nice Sweet Dead Kids.

          Folks, this is serious business. We are facing oblivion as a race. We are in a fight for our survival. We can’t afford to coddle crazies. If you think we can, it is because deep down inside, you don’t think we are going to win, and the only reason you are involved with Net Nationalism is as a form of emotional self-indulgence. We have no use for people like that.

          • Posted July 25, 2011 at 10:12 am | Permalink

            @ “Normal People never do. Normal people will SEE lots of Nice Sweet Dead Kids.”

            This is absolutely true, which is why not even in the most gruesome pages of William Pierce’s or Harold Covington’s novels such a thing happens. In those revolutionary novels the nationalists don’t even kill colored kids!

          • Trainspotter
            Posted July 25, 2011 at 11:59 am | Permalink

            I don’t read OD anymore, for reasons which are probably obvious to some here, but I had to check this out. It’s almost comforting to see that some things don’t change: the same schizoid swerving about.

            The site goes from standard fare white nationalism, to demanding that people go public under their real names (while using pen names themselves), to condemning white nationalism and demanding that people join mainstream groups like NumbersUSA (wonderful advice if you’ve just gone public as WN, advice the OD crowd pushed on others but failed to follow themselves), to now indulging in the sort of apologia for Breivik that would guarantee censure followed by expulsion in most mainstream endeavors. Ah, steady as a rock, it is.

            Again, since I don’t read the site anymore, I’m sure that I’ve left out more than a 180 turn or two, but the running theme seems to be that if you take their advice one week, you have shot yourself in the foot for whatever they may advocate on the following. Woops!

            In what was admittedly a very cursory inspection of the comments, it seems that the debate – or at least an important part of the debate -seems to be over the use of violence per se. This debate has taken place elsewhere as well.

            If one acknowledges that the use of violence is justified in our cause, so the argument seems to go, then one cannot condemn Breivik. Further, the teens were legitimate targets, etc.

            Essentially, what is being offered is a false choice. One must either claim that no violence is necessary or will ever be necessary, or in the alternative Breivik can’t be denounced.

            Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. Breivik did in fact strike at the elite in a way that nobody else has, and certainly he caused them some localized pain. To some people, he gets credit for this as opposed to the typical nut who lashes out in a way that leaves the elite unscathed.

            But the point is that he managed to find a way to hit the elite in such a way that actually garners sympathy for the elite. He hit them in such a way that demoralizes those who are opposed to the elite. He hit them in such a way that makes disastrous connections in the public mind – equating resistance against the System with slaughtering teens. He hit the most sympathetic of the elite – their children. He killed the kitten while it was still a kitten, never mind that it may have grown into an ugly cat.

            But the loons and idiots go on and on about how the teens were in fact traitorous and culpable, and therefore had it coming. They are too far gone to realize that it doesn’t even matter if that’s true or not. It also doesn’t matter, as I said in my first post on the subject over at Majority Rights, that this same crowd would not have shed so much as a crocodile tear if a bunch of white nationalists had been slaughtered in similar fashion. I know what these kids would think of me, and I suspect that if I had met any of them I would have found them a distinctly distasteful lot. But then again, who knows? And none of that matters anyway, it’s completely irrelevant.

            All that matters, from a purely pragmatic standpoint at least, is that this guy managed to hurt the elite in one of the few ways that actually hurts us as well. As I’ve been saying, if any good comes out of this, it could have been multiplied by a thousand if he had gone after the elite in some other way. The way he did it was nutty, evil and strategically wrong. What kind of kook, intelligent enough to hit the elite as opposed to just gunning down some wogs at a sub shop, would choose to do it in the way he did?

            Point is, whether one believes that violence is necessary or not, this wack job is worthy only of condemnation. We are instead witnessing a false debate, and offered a false choice.

            You’d think those that believe violence is necessary would get this, as this guy has just connected in the public mind violent resistance against tyranny with child/teen slaughter. But apparently, they just don’t get it…or pretend not to at least. Idiots? Or loons? Or something else? I’ll have a follow up to this shortly.

            • Greg Johnson
              Posted July 25, 2011 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

              Yes, it is always a false dichotomy with that crowd. It is ironic that Wallace shat himself in fear of WNs being linked to Jared Lee Loughner, issuing a slew of blanket condemnations of violence, and now he embraces Breivik. No, on second thought, with him it would be ironic if he remained consistent.

              The issue is not: violence or no violence. Aside from complete pacifists, all people recognize that there are legitimate forms of violence. The issues here are: justified or unjustified violence, intelligent or stupid violence. What Breivik did was stupid and immoral. It was immoral not because violence is always immoral. It was immoral violence because it was stupid violence, which makes our cause harder, not easier.

              • CompassionateFascist
                Posted July 25, 2011 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

                Lenin, an expert tactician, said it all: INDIVIDUAL terrorism, no matter how well targeted, only strengthens the oppressor’s power. The targeting here was insane and, from a biological perspective, absolute evil.

            • Posted July 25, 2011 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

              Trainspotter, Since boxes are getting narrower in this commentariat format I think I’ll reply below…

          • Trainspotter
            Posted July 25, 2011 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

            To follow up with my comment above, I’d point out that there is no doubt in my mind that at least some of the Breivik apologists are trolls doing their best to link us with this kook. I also don’t doubt that some are simply kooks themselves, and as you point out, resonate with other kooks. I’ll address the later group here.

            One thing I’ve noticed in reading various Breivik apologists is their utter inability to handle context, to differentiate between very different circumstances. Perhaps this is a kook characteristic? It seems to be.

            For example, they will say something to the effect that since our military kills civilians in its imperial wars, that the teens were legitimate military targets and Breivik was justified in his choice. Never mind the totally different circumstances between an imperial war and a gathering of teenagers near Oslo. Never mind that because the contexts are totally different, non-kooks (whatever their political orientation) are going to see the situations as being, well, totally different. Never mind that our government would never say, “We’re invading country X, and our main objective is to slaughter unarmed teenagers. The main impression we want to leave with people is that we slaughter unarmed teenagers. Remember that. They are legitimate military targets, after all.”

            Hmmm. I wonder why they don’t say such a thing? A real brain teaser, itz.

            To the kook, since teens have been killed in other scenarios or contexts, then therefore this must be o.k. too? Right? The sane person in turn looks at him like, well, he’s nuts.

            To come at it from another angle, it would be sort of like saying that the slaughter at Waco or Ruby Ridge was somehow alright – move along, nothing to see here – because after all, plenty of other people have been killed by government forces in Iraq and elsewhere. To which the normal person would say, “Huh?!?”

            You know those people that you occasionally meet in real life that are a little off? They just don’t get it, and therefore their response to situations is always a little bit strange? They simply can’t accurately perceive the context that they are actually in? That’s the type these guys remind me of, just a lot more malevolent.

            Bottom line is that normal, sane people can distinguish between different contexts. Kooks, apparently, cannot or will not.

            These people not only fail to grasp context and the differences between various circumstances, but they seem almost pathologically opposed to viewing things in a way that a normal, non-kook would, whether that mentally sound person is one of us or not.

            • Posted July 25, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

              @ To which the normal person would say, “Huh?!?”

              In fact, I’ve just discussed the issue with my elderly father, who has been absolutely opposed to WN throughout his life. He didn’t get why on earth an anti-jihadist targeted young civilians. I explained that the papers have hidden a crucial message: that this guy targeted the elites’ offspring. Unlike the Columbine massacre, the London and Madrid bombings and even 9/11, this is the first time that elites have been impacted negatively (later, see also my comment below that’s still awaiting moderation).

            • Lew
              Posted July 25, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Permalink


              they will say something to the effect that since our military kills civilians in its imperial wars, that the teens were legitimate military targets and Breivik was justified in his choice.

              I don’t get that line of argument either.

              If an American, EU or NATO pilot strafes kids in Libya, what Brievik did makes about as much sense as shooting the pilot’s mother.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 11:59 am | Permalink

      A lot of things could happen because of this. But some are more likely than others, and rational people base their actions on calculations of likely outcomes. I think it is very unlikely that Breivik will start a crusade. He might inspire copycats, but lone gunmen, even a lot of them, do not overthrow governments. It is far more likely that this will set our cause back, not advance it.

      • Posted July 24, 2011 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

        @ “He might inspire copycats, but lone gunmen, even a lot of them, do not overthrow governments. It is far more likely that this will set our cause back, not advance it.”

        But here’s where I agree with Pierce, who wrote Hunter as a more likely scenario than his Turner Diaries. The point is, if westerners have become so deracinated with the panem et circences that the System feeds upon them, why haven’t hundreds, thousands of Hunters cropped up? You know that Pierce dedicated his novel to an actual serial killer of mixed couples. I can only imagine the impact of a growing number of Breiviks throughout the West… Yes: unlikely. But I was imagining it as a sort of Gedankenexperiment to ponder the moral issue of Breivik’s deeds.

    • Mishko Novosel
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

      Well then, how about this, just another DAY I suppose. Let’s not mention how the Freemasons love their numbers.

      Norway Oil Fund divests from Israeli companies

      08/23/2010 19:56

      Norway’s Ministry of Finance announced that the Norway Oil Fund divested from Africa-Israel Investments and Danya Cebus Ltd. on Monday.

      The reason given is the companies’ construction in the West Bank.

      The Norwegian Finance Ministry said, “The ethics council stresses that construction of settlements in the occupied territories violates the decision of the Geneva convention regarding defense of civilians during war time. Several decisions of the UN Security Council and the International Court of Justice have reached the conclusion that construction of Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territories is prohibited.”

      What’s interesting is I just did the calculation

      Start Date 8/23/10
      End Date 7/22/11
      Number of Days 333

      You can do this in Excel the calculation is simple =DATEDIF(startdate,enddate,”d”) Also notible, the fact the first bomb went off at 3:30 and it’s exactly been 11 months.

      • Fourmyle of Ceres
        Posted July 24, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

        Greg Johnson in blockquote:

        How is it that we have so many people in our movement who intellectually understand that we are dealing with the most serious matter possible, namely the extinction of nature’s highest and fairest species, and yet they act like infantile fools? It is because, deep down, they do not believe they can win, so they just indulge their emotions.

        This is the question that so perplexed Dr. Revilo Oliver, and the Adults who realize the magnitude of what we are up against.

        This is The Answer, found, as always, bo looking in their mirrors.

        They are nihilstic. They have given up, and react like angry infants, striking out with soft, impotent punches that are dervied from the rage of the denied impotent.

        That’s is why they Act Out in such stunningly ineffective ways. They can not ACT in effective – Adult – ways.

        Greg has just filled in the Big Gap between people who talk like they understand us, and share our Goals, if not all of our beliefs. This is breathtaking elegant.

        One can well imagine you and your associates, Mishko:

        Charlie Brown Club: “The world is coming to an end, and we must prepare for Final Combat – to the knife! – because of what these Evil People are doing!”

        Adults: “Good idea. Did you send any money to support counter-currents, even ten dollars a month?”

        Charlie Brown Club: “Uh….uh….uh… don’t you understand the importance of the Enemy, and his All-Powerful, Super-Secret Plans, which go back for centuries, millennia? Don’t you get it?”

        Adults – and I am specfically including Peter Shank here, because he woke me up to this: “What power do they have over you, other than the power you choose to give them? Speaking of giving, the total destruction of your Kin, your Posterity, your Race, is surely worth sending a hundred dollars a month to counter-currents, isn’t it? Twenty-five would do well, but ten shows you are willing to give up a six-pack of Budweiser For The Cause. Done that yet?”

        Charlie Brown Club: “Man, you don’t get it. It’s just like in HALO 3, when Spike’s Mark V blaster jammed, outside the HQ on Anatares 5. It’s JUST like that! I remember the Interrositer to Command was jammed, but Wing-Wing and Sparky Joe rigged the Vordenburg units to run on thorium-5. It’s just like that, man!”

        Adults: “Ten dollars a month. More is better.”

        Charlie Brown Club: “You don’t understand! We had to trade ALL of our holopictures of Deja Thoris for that thorium-5. Sacrifice, man, you hearing me? Sacrifice! That’s Deja in 3-D, man! No sacrifice is too great, Man! You just don’t understand!”

        Adults: “No. We understand all too well. Now, in the words of John Wayne, ‘Stand back! And let a Man through!'”

        The problem with the Vast Transnational Conspirators is their vast knowledge simply supports them in their impotence, and rationalizes their incompetence, in even the simplest of things.

        Greg, you just defined ALL that is wrong with those who have self-identified as White Nationalists.

        THAT is the difference between Rockwell, Dr. Revilo Oliver, Harold Covington, and precious few others.

        They KNEW we could would win, if we just CHOSE to win.

        The rest, for the most part, are Losers – charter members of the Charlie Brown Club.

        Their nihilism is the sophistry of the failures, masked as sophistication.

        Full marks to you on this one, Sir.

        THIS fills in the blanks for a century of failure, and removes all excuses for the Adults who wish to make the Fourteen Words the touchstone of their lives.

        Ten dollars a month to counter-currents, or you can spend the money turning up the volume on your headset when you play HALO, where the world INSIDE is rich, and powerful…and so are YOU, while the world OUTSIDE reveals you to be Charlie Brown – fat, slow, stupid, manipulated, professional Losers.

        Greg Johnson just cracked The Code for the failure of a century of Self-identified White Nationalism. Brilliant, simply damn brilliant.

        And, Mishko?

        “We now resume your regularly scheduled programming, already in progress.”

        What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

        • Laconophile
          Posted July 24, 2011 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

          Your poorly constructed strawman has chastened us all.

  8. Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Permalink
  9. Joe Owens
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Greg, an excellent article!

    What’s puzzling me is why this crank didn’t shoot himself like most spree – killers do? Also, why didn’t the Norwegian police shoot him dead? Very odd!

    Lunatics like this are so mixed up they don’t really know what they believe in. Sadly, we seem to attract them.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

      Do Norwegian police even carry guns?

      Breivik can be sentenced to a maximum of 21 years of very comfortable confinement.

      He did this to send a message. He probably wanted to stay alive to continue sending his message.

      • Joe Owens
        Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

        I’m sure they must have units that respond to firearm incidents?

        Yes, but why not go out in a blaze of glory (looking through my eyes)?

        Stay alive to relive his misguided fame?

        Sound like a crank at the very least!

        • Greg Johnson
          Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

          Why spend money on SWAT teams, when you can invest in crack forces of psychological counselors armed with steaming flasks of herbal tea? Sorry, that is unfair. To tea drinkers.

  10. Alexander
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    In January 2011 [approx. Jan. 17 or 18] Russia reaffirmed our recognition of the Palestinian State. January 24 – bloody terrorist attack in Moscow` airport Domodedovo.

    In July 2011 Norway backed Palestine` bid for the UN recognition

    July 22 – bloody terrorist attacks in Oslo.

    In his recent broadcast

    Michael Collins Piper told, he is pretty sure about new terrible acts of terrorism in near future. He added, mass media would declare, “the killers are White nationalists and/or Muslims”. OK. Saturday` morning I watched Euronews TV [openly propagandistic TV-channel of the EU; although obviously anti-Putinist, Euronews has free hours on the Federal Gvt-owned channel Kultura], and they proclaimed, culprits are “rightist White radical” and/or “Islamists” – “Al Qaeda” [oh my God Almighty….again….] or Qaddafi` operatives……Interestingly also, Euronews admitted, “American specialists were on the spot in Oslo almost immediately, assisting Norwegian colleagues’. Yes indeed, “American specialists” [Mossad???] are very quick guys…..doing what, waiting for “the event”?????

    Although Mister Piper personally thinks, the aim of the future act of terrorism will be Obama…..well, so far, so good………….. Let`s wait?…..

    P.S. Ck out btw

  11. Andrea D. Merciless
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    “I have learned from bitter experience that nothing good for our race and cause comes out of association with the insane, so I prefer to err on the side of caution and avoid people who show signs of flakiness.”

    And yet, you praise Hitler the murderer of 6 million Jews(men, women, and children)and 20 million Slavs(in a war of enslavement and extermination)as a great hero of the white race in an article not too long ago? I think Hitler and you are battier and sicker than this guy.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

      Thanks for reminding me that I need to unfriend you, Sir, and ban you from posting on this site. Elitism begins at home, after all!

  12. Mishko Novosel
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Greg, just adding more dots that should be connected. The Port Arthur Massacre. Anyone that researches this will find that this was COMPLETELY false flag, and the result, no more guns for the goyim.

    Wendy Scurr was the first person into the broad arrow cafe after the pt arthur massacre, she has a completely different story to tell from the mainstream media , the police and the federal and state governments, find out just how much disinformation and myths have been created around the pre planned pt arthur massacre ,if you watch this film with an open mind you will never be the same again period. also go to the NEXUS magazine website and download from the their archives section a brilliant 3 part series of articles in PDF format on the event time to take the red pill and wake up to what’s really going on in our world.

    • Fourmyle of Ceres
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

      Mishko in blockquote:

      Greg, just adding more dots that should be connected.

      From the view of the crib, the Child sees dots, and builds connections from the bottom up, inhabiting a world of magic and mystery, which is gradually corrected by telling the Child, “The Moon is NOT made of green cheese.” The Angry Child throws tantrums, and blames everyone for his ignorance, his lack of knowledge. and “IT’S ALL THEIR FAULT, Daddy!”

      Greg Johnson just defined the critical gap in the thinking of most of those who have self-identified as White Nationalists over the last century.

      They have given up. They do not believe we can WIN, so they rationalize their choices that led to impotence with ever more elaborate theories of vast conspiracies, none of which have any more power over you than the power you allow them to have over you.

      I’ve met people with very elaborate theories of the Jews, and the vast powers they have. They use OFFICE to draw elaborate diagrams, filling canvas notebooks with these elaborate theories, analyses, charts and diagrams. This notebook is carried around in the duffel bag they carry with them when they are not sleeping under the bridge by Interstate 5.

      Again, Peter Shank (paraphrased): “What would you do if they – the Jews, the Coloreds, the Illegals – all went away tomorrow, magically, at nine in the morning? Why aren’t you doing that?”

      Greg Johnson just broke the code.

      Why aren’t they doing that? They’ve given up.

      THAT explains why Charlie Brown never stops playing Lucy’s Rules Football. He gave up – deep inside, where it matters, where the head and heart connect.

      I love listening to all of the damn Losers talk about “taking America back, every square foot of it!” Ask them how they propose to Do That, and the Answer is a Child’s Magic Answer, the answer of the Child – “Some kind of magic, man, I don’t know. I remember what we used on Antares 5, when the Seventh Level Ring of Power was traded for that Deja Thoris 3-D pictures. Something like that, I guess. Hey, let’s jack in and play HALO!”

      Your regular programming, already in progress, was just resumed, and you didn’t even know it. Charlie Brown. Ten dollars a month to counter-currents, ten times ten is better, but make a least a token effort to participate in an Adult world. The button is right on the top of your screen.

      You can even donate now. Or, you can resume your regular programming, already in progress. Ten dollars a month. Why, think of all of the Deja Thoris 3-D pictures you could buy with that!


      What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

      • Mishko Novosel
        Posted July 24, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

        LMAO Fourmyle of Ceres. Do you even know who Mishko Novosel is? You call me a loser, but who are YOU, and what have you done other than running you mouth on the internet?

        • Fourmyle of Ceres
          Posted July 24, 2011 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

          Rising to troll bait this last time.

          Mishko Novosel in blockquote:

          LMAO Fourmyle of Ceres. Do you even know who Mishko Novosel is?

          No, and nor do I care. I assume you are a Level 32 holder of the Green Emerald Ring of F’lan, Master of the Nine Realms, and that’s when Mom lets you play on the computer.

          By the substance of your writing I can see the content of your character.

          Remember this – it’s not who you are, it’s what you DO.

          You call me a loser, but who are YOU, and what have you done other than running you mouth on the internet?

          Who am I, and what have I done?

          I am what I have done, and a bit more. I’ve done the things you can only see from the crib you reside in, and will be able to understand if you spend enough time with people that are better than you.

          Good luck on getting back those Deja Thoris 3-D Playing Cards posters. You can probably trade them for even more thorium-5, somewhere. At least, until Mom calls you upstairs for dinner. Hey, I think Lucy’s calling for you to come and play football! Better hurry, Charlie Brown!

          Thus ends our correspondence.

          What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

          • Laconophile
            Posted July 24, 2011 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

            Man who can’t make a post without mentioning cartoons or video games is lecturing you about maturity.

          • George
            Posted July 25, 2011 at 10:20 am | Permalink

            Mishko Novosel is the man who founded and financed the Voice of Reason Broadcast Network (VOR).

            If you take some time to research the good work VOR has done and is still doing, maybe you would not be so quick to say the things you have said about Mishko Novosel. Nobody is perfect, but a man who has created something that has helped many White people, and put a lot of his own money into it, deserves respect.

            • Posted July 25, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

              VoR is here starting Board Wars. Mishko, Laconophile, and “George” are here to promote VoR, and destroy the unique opportunity presented by counter-currents.

              VoR is an exercise in gratuitous ineffectiveness. I saw how they treated Peter Shank and Edgar Steele, after Peter formed it, gave it the name, gave it their motto. It’s essentially frat boys making fun of people who think they are White Nationalists. They also wasted a year of Peter and Edgar’s time, before running a program on a shoutcast server, and knocking them out of it.

              I do not want to waste time in Board Wars. I can address some of George’s other responses, but, again, you will notice than none of their comments address a substantive issue in a substantive manner. I also see the contributions thermometer stuck at 10,590, so no one, particularly from VoR, took me up on the suggestion for contributions. I’ll bump it up again later this week.

              You’ve hit on the issue no one, outside Harold Covington, seems prepared to understand – most self-identified “White Nationalists” have already surrendered, and are acting out of nihilistic narcissism. Hence the strong tone of mockery, self-mockery, in their behaviors. This is the most seminally important comment as to why we have been so singularly ineffective I have ever seen. They do not build, but only destroy by taking what could be used positively, and trying to destroy it.

              As you can see, “George” is trying to bait me, with questions that are truly off-topic. There is a reason for that.

              counter-currents offers what the rest, the “already dead,” can not imagine, and that is Something Better, the metapolitical project. They are here as Darkness is attracted by the Light. My advice? Bury the dead with the dead. We, the Living, have so much work to do.

              Winter Is Coming.


              What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

              • Greg Johnson
                Posted July 25, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

                Don’t sweat it, 4mile. I don’t see it that way. I am a big fan of VoR, and I wish them all the best.

  13. splendidcode
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Not only does White Humanity have a weakness for taking up the causes of our enemy as our own, when we do fight for ourselves, too often we pick the most sympathetic target and shot ourselves more times than we shoot them.

    The great Whitey Fails?

    John Wilkes Booth
    Bryon de la Beckwith
    Bobby Frank Cherry
    Thomas Coleman
    James Earl Ray
    Timothy McVeigh
    Anders Behring Breivik

    When our Afro-Zhul Affirmative Action Diversity pets burn down a city, White elites blame White racism and start handing out more free stuff to the blacks, our stuff, that is. When the hateful Muslims kill 3000 Americans on American soil, in our most important city, our White elites act like they’ve passed law that will condemn Whites for criticizing the terrorists.

    How can we win the contest when we have warriors who do more for the enemy than for us, and our other enemies are coddled and protected?

    When the Great White Awakening and the shout of “No!” in White unison?

    White Humanity’s tolerance for submission and self-degradation must be the marvel of God. He must be up there in negotiations with Jesus right now trying to figure out a plan to undo the damage of “Love thine enemy”.

    • Fourmyle of Ceres
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

      splendidcode in blockquote:

      How can we win the contest when we have warriors who do more for the enemy than for us, and our other enemies are coddled and protected?

      We can’t, for now. What helps to keep them from Seeing is the massive indoctrination needed to instill what Greg Johnson just masterfully described. After a century, they have been placed in “double-bind” states so often, and been denied to Masculine Fire needed to burn through the Illusions, that they are a very short step from the learned helplessness of Winston Smith, in 1984. Remember, at the end Smith was waiting passively for the Enforcers to come for him, and he drew in the dust on the chess table, “2 + 2 = ” He had been thorougly gelded, and then neutralized.

      We WILL, when enough of us discover it it possible, and desirable, to live the more effective live that manifests our unique Racial Destiny.

      When we can believe it, we can achieve it. Simple as that.

      When the Great White Awakening and the shout of “No!” in White unison?

      This is happening quietly, passively, and softly, at least in embryo, by people who are choosing to be medicated and to self-medicate, with everything from Prozac to “The NFL Today.” When these are lost, a Core will be able to accomplish quite a bit, IF they realize they are the Living Foundation of a New Nation.

      The Deep Game requires the formation of a New Christianity, what Christianity SHOULD have been, before it became Judeo-Christianity, and then, worst of all, Judeo-Feminist Christianity.

      We can not conceive the Truth; our Enemies hate us with a passion that is inchoate, and operates through the heart, with enough intelligence involved to serve it, but not enough intelligence to allow them to See a way out, a way forward.

      We have been rational with the irrational, and have accepted the Terms and Definitions, the Analytical Framework, where we discuss WHY the wolves shouldn’t be having the sheep for dinner. Words do not matter to them, as long as they can control them for their benefit. Wolves are wolves, and only understand what Jack London understood – tolerance is a racket to bluff the fools. They intend to destroy us, period. Good luck “arguing” with them.

      White Humanity’s tolerance for submission and self-degradation must be the marvel of God. He must be up there in negotiations with Jesus right now trying to figure out a plan to undo the damage of “Love thine enemy”.

      I have always argued the Southern Baptist Convention was designed to make poor White working people feel morally superior, because of their massively inferior economic and political position. The worse off they were, the more they were being tested by God, and rewarded for their Faithfulness. The seminary trained – State-licensed – pastor assured them this was so. What is the Standard Sermon? “Suffer them, render unto Caesar, and ‘servants, render unto your Masters.'” In short, stay in your place, and be proud!

      No wonder there is so much alcoholism and “substance abuse” among these people. no wonder dealing with them is often like dealing with a veritable Wonderland of passive aggression; passive aggression, the power of the powerless, is all the aggression they can practice.

      Want to undo the damage of “love thine Enemy?” Remind them that their Enemy certainly does not “love” them, except as the wolves “love” the sheep. Then, offer them something better, because no men are going to Church on Sunday unless they are driven there by their wives. “Something better” looks like a Restatement of Christianity, a merging of the Gospel of John – that IS Christianity – and “Imperium,” by Frances Parker Yockey. Think the Gospel, placed in context, with an accompanying commentary based on “Imperium.” Further useful Ideas present themselves, but the Foundation – the PSYCHOLOGICAL Foundation, must begin with a Fight Club Mindset. Fight Club Mindset?

      In two words, NEVER APOLOGIZE. I have had it with the passive aggressive crowd gelding their Males so often. They apologize for the damn weather! “I’m sure sorry it’s so hot out today, when you are visiting our Church…” Seriously.

      In four words, WE”RE GOING TO WIN. The question is not “if,” or “when,” or even “how.” It’s that we WILL win. The questions will be solved to OUR satisfaction, if and when we choose to answer them, and they will be answered AFTERWARDS, by our Deeds.

      Freud said he was coming to destroy the West, to destroy our sense of self-confidence, and, by implication, our national link to a transcendent purpose, the DUTY to Manifest a Destiny. Aided by Bernays, the mass media, and the public indoctrination education system, they succeeded. All we have to do is not play THEIR Game, by THEIR Rules. Our own Game, our own Rules, will serve our Race, just as theirs serve theirs.

      (1) Fight Club, for the individual and small organization, (2) men organizing as THEY see fit, without apology, for the political organization, and (3) the Restatement of Christianity as the philosophical and spiritual component of the bridge towards the metapolitical order.

      A name to consider for the political organization: “Without Apology. Know What We Believe, and Why.” It certainly works for the Jehovah’s Witnesses. It will certainly work for us.

      Remember Two Basic Principles:

      One, everything we want to do, we can do as Jim Giles says, by always acting and speaking “in an apple-pie, strictly legal, sort of way.” (HT: Jim Giles)

      Two, look what the Church model of organization did for Rome. Nations, rose, and nations fell. The Church grew throughout all of it, and learned. That’s all I have to say, for now. (Although having the motto, “From the Earth to the Stars” over the door would be perfect.)

      What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

      • George
        Posted July 25, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

        How do you know we are going to win?

        • CompassionateFascist
          Posted July 25, 2011 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

          Because I know the history of our main enemy, organized Jewry. In the course of 3,500 years they have risen and fallen many times. Each time they rise higher, each time they fall harder. Globalization represents the final attempt of OJ to universalize humanity; this time, the downfall will reach terminal veolcity.

      • George
        Posted July 25, 2011 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

        Why does the White Race need Christianity?

        • splendidcode
          Posted July 25, 2011 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

          Christianity gives humility and hope. That is it abused for the benefits of trigga-nigga Diversity and the Jews proves that the version taught today is an apostacy.

          Christianity does not demand that White Humanity surrender.

  14. Petronius
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    This article is the best comment so far on the issue.

    Now, Andy Nowicki, please take over, you know a thing or two about Columbine style killings and the death culture of liberalism!

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted July 25, 2011 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

      Yes, I have asked Nowicki to write an article on Breivik for this very reason.

  15. Posted July 24, 2011 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Greg, thank you, as always, for providing the most perceptive commentary on this event that I’ve read so far. You make all the right points and I agree with every word.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted July 25, 2011 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

      Thanks John, that means a lot.

  16. xfg
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    the Brewik book is interesting because he has a high knowledge of politics, don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise, deputy head of a political area may be considered lowly by the media, but within political organisations that is very high. You see an awful lot of politics at that level. His approach to mediaeval history is also interestingly quite academic, I notice he quotes the foremost modern american academic expert of the crusades at length (madden), at one point.
    Basically you may not like him, but if you want to learn things about politics from a conservative perspective, you could do a lot worse. Forget about the american supremacist books (are they worth reading? I don’t know), politically speaking this is on another level, by someone trained by a major political party.

    • Fourmyle of Ceres
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

      xfg in blockquote:

      Basically you may not like him, but if you want to learn things about politics from a conservative perspective, you could do a lot worse.

      That’s part of the problem; we have learned a great deal about politics “from a conservative perspective,” and that is the real CONservative perspective, and not simply “the racket to bluff the fools” developed by William F. Buckley, Jr., and his ilk. Sobran said Buckley told him CONservatism was simply a Game, and one that can be quite rewarding financially.

      Self-proclaimed conservatives see themselves as an English aristocracy of the Nineteenth Century, “standing athwart history and yelling ‘Stop!'” They have provided a wonderful set of kabuki performances in the Twentieth Century, as they protested vigorously against every repeat EVERY “liberal” social initiative, then surrendered with the softest swoon of protect, funding their programs, staffing their bureaucracies, and enabling their choices for the judiciary at all levels, including the Administrative Law judges.

      Above all, they transformed the Republican Party from Taft Republicans – no foreign intervention – to Judeo-Republicans – foreign intervention whenever and however it suits Israel (nominally), and the Jews (specifically).

      Read how the late Dr. Sam Francis could not reach outside his Framework to accept the truth of the importance of Race as the primary social organizing principle. That is the trap they placed us in, with the intellectual version of the cuckoo eggs, in place; the Form of Taft Republicanism, the Substance of the policies and practices of the Judeo-Democratic Party.

      This worked to neutralize Dr. Revilo Oliver, with the John Birch Society, and it worked to neutralize Dr. Sam Francis. Once again, once we See them for what they are, they only have the power over us we allow them.

      What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

  17. William Years
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    the 9/11 terrorist attacks proved that the United States government and its functionaries are not invulnerable to the consequences of their actions

    The opposite is true, the 911 attacks proved that the United States government and its functionaries are invulnerable to the consequence of their actions. Ask Bob McIlvaine.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

      Shop that nonsense somewhere else. It doesn’t fly around here.

      • Posted July 24, 2011 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

        Shop that nonsense somewhere else. It doesn’t fly around here.

        Wow. Anti 911 truth, my initial reaction was surprise. But then I remembered you’re a major publicist of Harold Covington and the “Northwest Front”.

        I loved your quote “elitism begins at home” above. It’s true. Covington and Al Qaeda believers are not worth bothering with. Good luck.

        • Posted July 24, 2011 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

          I didn’t realize that, like Greg, I could be classified as an “Al Qaeda believer” simply because I have read and accepted some of the voluminous documentary evidence that traces the history of the Islamist movement up through the development of Al Qaeda. But regardless, even if I were to accept your viewpoint as correct, I’m not sure where it gets us, as people interested in social change. Even if you could produce incontrovertible evidence that 9/11 was an “inside job,” the majority of Americans would either refuse to believe it, or else shake their heads and say, “Yes, what a tragedy,” and then go back to business as usual, consigning it to the long list of other blatant injustices perpetrated by the U.S. government that are fully documented and yet completely ignored. There were (and are, I assume) people convinced that proving that the assassination of JFK was a government conspiracy would bring about the change they wanted and topple the corrupt system. For decades, they wrote books, published newsletters, obsessed about minutiae, and produced mountains of information – and never accomplished anything in the mainstream culture other than to get Oliver Stone to film “JFK.” How is your the “911 truth” movement any different? If the only outcome is to show that the U.S. government is invulnerable, I don’t see how that is at all helpful.

      • Posted July 24, 2011 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

        I agree with Greg. Cognitively, conspiracy theories, including 9/11, represent a pathological regression compared with Aristotelian thought.

  18. Wandrin
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    I think you’re right the shrink aspect of this is narcissism rather than sociopathy.

  19. Posted July 24, 2011 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Excellent commentary.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted July 25, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

      Thanks Richard, it means a lot.

  20. Lew
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    If this event was not a false flag, then Breivik must be damn intelligent. Breivik correctly perceives the White ruling elite as the fundamental problem.

    • WG
      Posted July 25, 2011 at 6:07 am | Permalink

      True. Brievik is far more perceptive in this regard than a lot of WNs who continue to blame “the Jooz” for each and every failing.

    • John Norman Howard
      Posted July 25, 2011 at 8:18 am | Permalink

      I’m leaning this way… but would like to hear the man state that this was his primary motivation, in no uncertain terms.

  21. JJ
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    Nichols of OKC, the Unibomber, Laughner, Columbine shooters, Breivik, . . . none of them were/are white nationalist. I feel good about that.

  22. TabuLaRaza
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    Freud said his major insight is- man is not master in his own house– the “ID” rules. (Perhaps the YID rules)

    A corollary- Whites are not masters in their own country, due to jew control of the cultural superego.

  23. Norwegian mother
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    Just a comment about how you claim that the media is using words like kids and teenagers to make it seem more horrible. Some of these KIDS were only 11 years old. They were not even teenagers. So if you think that this is made worse than it is, you are wrong. I think it is you who don’t realize how incredibly terrible and meaningless this is.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted July 24, 2011 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

      The news accounts I read indicated that the youngest people there were 15. Of course at any age, they are still somebody’s children, and they had many possible years taken away from then.

    • John Norman Howard
      Posted July 25, 2011 at 8:20 am | Permalink

      Well, Lord knows a lot of “kids”, babies, and pregnant women die every time a bomb is dropped from the sky by men we are told to honor as “heroes”.

  24. CaptainEuro
    Posted July 25, 2011 at 2:17 am | Permalink

    Thanks for this article Greg. It does really shed some light on the subject. We all know this case smells foul-fishy to the core, but who is going to be willing to listen to us? what is going to happen from now on? It’s going to be even a harder road…

  25. CaptainEuro
    Posted July 25, 2011 at 5:28 am | Permalink

    Just for information’s sake:

    Oslo bomber ABB Anders Breivik sent email to Jewish anti-Muslim Sweden Democrats a hour before the bombings! (click below)

    This has to be checked anyway (unfortunately I don’t speak Norwegian).

  26. Posted July 25, 2011 at 7:29 am | Permalink

    A very reasonable analysis (in this world of madness).

  27. Petronius
    Posted July 25, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    At Occidental Dissent, they’re are basically going mental about it, which is, hm, ironic?

  28. Posted July 25, 2011 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    Trainspotter et al,

    I wish I could see things as black and white as you do. But keep in mind that presently the featured article at TOO is not condemning Breivik, in fact it’s featuring Breivik’s video-manifesto that Prof. MacDonald has labeled as “powerful”.

    I agree with every word you said last year about Hunter Wallace. As you know, the longest entry in my blog is a collection of your various exchanges with him and I’ve stated many times here at CC that you were the obvious winner.

    Presently, however, that OD thread is the only place in the WN blogosphere where this is being discussed with brutal honesty. Ignore in toto what Wallace says in that thread if you wish: there are still fascinating comments by Wandrin, Kievsky, Rollory and even a post by Yggdrasil. None of them are “loons and idiots” and I doubt that this tragic event suddenly and inexplicably turned them into such. On the contrary, at Age of Treason an anonymous commenter nailed it:

    “The enemy turns EVERYTHING to their advantage, why can’t we try to turn this to our advantage?”
    Exactly. You can’t control these events you can only control how you react to them and how you stop the other side using them for their advantage.

    I for one would never have the heart of opening fire on adolescents. But why don’t we turn this to our advantage? It’s like those war films when an impatient warrior launches a premature attack during an ambush, shattering the plans of the sane commander and his comrades, giving them no choice but to immediately charge ahead. That’s why I mentioned Pierce’s novel Hunter in my reply to Greg above.

    Frankly, I don’t like this. I expected to wait a decade or two until the Northwest idea gains momentum. But due to the nature of this sort of immigration—Muslims behave even worse than niggers or mestizos (tell me: who have been kidnapped twice by mestizos!)—showtime might start in the Old World after all.

    Like Breivik, I come from the counter-jihad movement. Unlike Breivik, I gave up counter-jihad last year. Yes: I know the two worlds, and often wonder why haven’t white nationalists grasped the incredibly evil nature of the Islamization of Europe.

    Time to wake up. Pace Covington, Europe might go to flames before the Northwest does.

    I would recommend you all reading the OD thread, skipping over Wallace’s comments if you wish, and see by yourselves if something is not missing in the more cautious blogs…

  29. Alaskan
    Posted July 25, 2011 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    Whether this is a false flag operation (which IS plausible) or simply the act of a delusional loser, the bottom line is that this WILL cause exactly the right kind of black lash our enemies desire. That is the only point here that really matters! As Europe continues to awaken, swing more to the right, I predict that we will see much more of this kind of thing. How else can our enemies expose the “horrors” of white racial consciousness?

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted July 25, 2011 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

      Agreed. The next Breivik copycat might be a false flag. I am sure secret policemen all over Europe and in Israel and the US are studying Breivik’s manifesto and actions carefully.

  30. WG
    Posted July 25, 2011 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Breivik’s views are standard immature views for someone at his stage of intellectual development and awakening.

    Give him a few years and he would have been a loyal CC reader, I’m sure.

    Like most of us, Breivik was probably not born with innate understanding of the JQ.

    What scares the folks at CC/AltRight, amongst others, I think, is the realisation that Breivik is much closer to their line of thinking than they are willing to admit.

    It horrifies them.

    And so they step away.

    They talk the talk, but are unable to stomach the true fight.

    Why do we listen to such pussified Whites?

    I ask you.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted July 25, 2011 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

      You really have a lot of face, buddy, with your sheer assertion that we are motivated by fear, and your claim to know just what we are allegedly afraid of.

      Breivik is not close to our line of thinking. He as was anti-racist, a Christian/Masonic universalist, and pro-Jew. He might have grown, that is true. Others of his stripe have. But there were some pretty big gaps there. And beyond the intellectual issues, he is obviously mentally unbalanced. So he is not someone I would want on our team anyway.

      And Breivik’s rampage is not the “true fight.” It was an inexcusably stupid act that sets back our cause.

    • Posted July 26, 2011 at 7:06 am | Permalink

      The idea that we are “pussified,” to use your word, because we won’t stomach an attack on unarmed teenagers at a summer camp is ludicrous. There is a “true fight,” but that isn’t it. Besides the moral question, it doesn’t make sense even from a strategic point of view. Islamist insurgents tried carrying out mass casualty attacks on civilians in Algeria and Iraq. In both cases it only succeeded in driving the population away and into the arms of their opponents. The same will happen in any conflict. “Don’t kill the people who you want to support you” seems an obvious axiom of any political struggle.

      • John Norman Howard
        Posted July 27, 2011 at 5:41 am | Permalink

        It might be apocryphal, or just some movie dialog, but I can’t help but think of the Colonel Kurtz realization about the “clarity, without judgment” exhibited by the Viet Cong in cutting the arms off little Vietnamese children who had been given inoculations by the US Army… that’s when he realized we (you know, “the good guys”) were not going to win.

        • Posted July 27, 2011 at 10:16 am | Permalink

          I’m no expert on Vietnam, but I have read a bit about it, and I’ve never come across a reference to any such incident. It strikes me as rather unlikely. Perhaps there was a one-off incident like it. I don’t think so many Vietnamese would have supported the VC if they had commonly done such things. Regardless, however, even if we assume it’s true, the difference is that the Viet Cong was a mass movement with thousands of fighters and a large degree of popular support actively engaged in a long-term struggle to determine the future of their nation. Breivik is a weird nut case who pulled off an isolated, if deadly, incident and had no support apart from, possibly, a handful of friends who are as deranged as he is (and who have now vanished).

          A corollary to Greg’s injunction to steer clear of the insane among the Right are those who think that by carrying off a single, spectacular attack they will spark thousands of other people to immediately begin doing the same thing. Every once in a while someone will snap and go on a shooting spree or even, as in McVeigh’s case, a bombing. Inevitably, when their motives are revealed, it has something to do with believing that when news of their attack hits the airwaves, it will kick off a campaign of violence by like-minded people. In their demented brains, they imagine that most people think the same way they do but don’t act because they lack the proper motivation. Of course, healthy people are horrified by violence against innocents, but such attackers, having only a warped perception of reality, are baffled by the real world and are thus incapable of understanding this.

          A successful guerrilla does not create havoc or use violence indiscriminately. An attack should be used to achieve some specific political effect while keeping in mind how it will be perceived both by your opponent and by the people caught in the middle. The only effect Breivik created was complete revulsion. He should have known that attacking a summer camp, regardless of its affiliation, would have had such an effect, and since he didn’t, he is clearly either an idiot or insane.

          • John Norman Howard
            Posted July 28, 2011 at 6:53 am | Permalink

            And yet no one blanches when we drop bombs on wedding parties, nor calls “insane” the killing of Qadafi’s grandchildren.

            The killing of the Tsar and his children evoked no backlash against Communism, still held near-and-dear to the hearts of most of America’s academicians.

            And there is no “mass revulsion” of John Q. YT Public when a young Norwegian or Swedish girl is gang-raped by Muslims and then commits suicide.

            Sorry, my friend… talk of “killing children” rings hollow anymore… we have incinerated children our entire history.

            Like it or not, this Breivik fellow was an early soldier in an as-of-yet undeclared war… undeclared, that is, by Whites… the other side has been waging it as war for a long time now.

  31. Posted July 27, 2011 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    The HAMMER & ANVIL article by Sebastian Ernst Ronin is perhaps the most insightful one I’ve read on the Anders Behring Breivik action so far. It’s absolutely must reading. We can turn this incident to our advantage.

    • Posted July 27, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

      How will it help us? The average person is not going to give this incident serious metapolitical thought.

      • Posted July 27, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

        @ “How will it help us? The average person is not going to give this incident serious metapolitical thought.”

        I can maintain my hope through the vision I just cited at MR from Childhood’s End:

        Jeff and Jenny had been the first in all the world, but soon they were no longer alone. Like an epidemic spreading swiftly from land to land, the metamorphosis [psi development] infected the entire human race.

        What I meant by mentioning Covington’s novel in the context of Ronin’s article is simple:

        Anders and Jenny had been the first in the white world, but soon they were no longer alone. Like an epidemic spreading swiftly from land to land, the RaHoWa [Racial Holy War] metamorphosis infected the entire race.

        In other words, after July 22 we have no choice but try to follow the lead of the vanguardists starting from Pierce’s Hunter (copycat) and following it up with the Brigade (only one ethno-state) and if possible even with the Diaries (conquering the whole world for the white race).

        @ Greg,

        Your recent comments at OD on the ills of Christianity are insightful. If you don’t mind I will collect them (sans the replies from ODers) for my next blog entry “Greg Johnson on the Breivik manifesto”, or something like that.

        • Jaego Scorzne
          Posted July 27, 2011 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

          I loved Childhood’s End. It was both glorious and extremely unsettling – myth phrased in Science Fiction; the past and the future almost indistinguishable. The complete circle.

          What is MR?

          • Posted July 27, 2011 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

            MR = Majority Rights blogsite.

            By the way, I liked so much your above comment that I included it in my latest entry.

    • Jaego Scorzne
      Posted July 27, 2011 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

      Yes, History will judge. If Europe rises up, Breivik will be seen as a Hero, a latter day Charles Martel. This is Breivik’s hope and vision. Is Islam conquers, he will be just seen as a failed crusader – and forgotten since he failed and didn’t kill any Muslims anyway. If Liberals win, he will go down in history as a Criminal. But this is actually the least likely scenario long term since Liberals are a death cult. Who cares what they think?

      My point is that history is interactive. It’s not written in stone until the stones are toppled one upon another. Short term we play him down for sure, but use his trial for all it’s worth. These people may not like us but the stakes are too big to let that get in the way – way too big.

      • Trainspotter
        Posted July 27, 2011 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

        “If Europe rises up, Breivik will be seen as a Hero, a latter day Charles Martel.”

        No, not at all. In time Europe will indeed rise up, but it will be in spite of Breivik, not because of him. The resistance movement of the future will have a very hard time overcoming the child killing image that he has created. Breivik has done us no favors, and will not be rehabilitated. No Charles Martel, he. No credit is due Breivik for the good things of the future.

        He is at most a canary in the coal mine, a clear indicator of what sincere white nationalists have known for some time now: the multicultural/multiracial project will end in tears. Did you not know this before? Did I not know this?

        Of course we did. Otherwise we probably wouldn’t be white nationalists.

        Breivik has taught us nothing new. He has shown us nothing new. He just happened to be the first serious “pop” in what eventually will be many (though he has probably delayed any successful resistance by some years). It is terribly unfortunate that the first “popper” chose to hang the child killer albatross around the neck of the future resistance. This was totally unnecessary. As they say, you never get a second chance to make a good first impression.

        Breivik could have chosen a target that would have hurt the elite every bit as much as he did, without nearly as much of the downside. If Breivik does manage to inspire more people to engage in the sort of evil and kooky target selection that he did, the main result will be to convince the broad white population that any member of the resistance that they can get their hands on should be torn from limb to limb. As long as that’s the case, the anti-white elite will have no problem maintaining their grip on power.

        The fact that more than a few of the commenters on various internet boards can’t understand (or at least pretend, in the case of trolls) the most simple and basic rule that, well, target selection actually matters, is both amazing and scary. I’m not the first to note: this ain’t rocket science. Yet again and again we are presented with the false choice: you either have to believe in electoral reforms…or support Breivik.

        That’s utterly absurd, an absolutely false choice. While advocating nothing, I know perfectly well that we aren’t getting out of this mess easily. I also know perfectly well that Breivik’s choice of targets has harmed us deeply and unnecessarily.

        I realize that it is pretty exciting for some that he actually targeted the elite instead of just machine gunning wogs at a sub shop, but there is a bit more to target selection than that. Breivik’s target selection was evil, kooky… and effective. It was effecctive, as Yggdrasil’s piece noted, in imposing some costs on the elites.

        It was also terribly effective at making any similar resistance movement appear utterly insane and evil, a force no normal person would wish victory upon. Would you want to be ruled by a Breivik?

        Again, this isn’t rocket science. The goal of a resistance movement is not to discredit itself. It is, among other things, to discredit the enemy, and then displace him.

        Beyond that, again, Breivik is a mere canary in the coal mine. The canary is not a leader, nor does the canary have virtue. The canary is nothing more than a signal, whether that be of toxins in the air of a mineshaft, or of a changing political and psychological landscape in Europe. Again, no Charles Martel he.

        But yeah, by actually hitting the elite, however kookily, as opposed to running down a handful of wogs or blowing up some working class secretaries and low level bureaucrats, this canary has changed the game. He just did it in a way that discredited future resistance activity. Still, that future activity will come, because it has to. It just won’t owe anything to Breivik.

        Pop. Not Charles Martel.

        • Posted July 27, 2011 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

          @ “Breivik could have chosen a target that would have hurt the elite every bit as much as he did, without nearly as much of the downside.”

          He certainly could not have killed almost a hundred elite adults. This subject was discussed at one of the huge threads about Breivik at TOO, IIRC in one of the threads that Greg participated. I am too lazy to dig the exact comments but there were quite a few responses on thoughts similar to my italicized sentence above.

          @ “Pop. Not Charles Martel.”

          OK, what about Gavrilo Princip instead, who set off a chain of events that led to WWI.

          • Posted July 28, 2011 at 7:39 am | Permalink

            I’m not advocating such an action, but if Breivik’s goal was to wake up Europe to the problem of Islamic immigration, why didn’t he shoot up a mosque or some such place? THAT would have led to a chain reaction of events which the liberal elites would have a hard time controlling. I think many Europeans would have had more mixed feelings about it as well, than they could about dead blonde teenagers.

            • Posted July 28, 2011 at 11:05 am | Permalink

              No: this time we are going after the elites. Are you familiar with Breivik’s list of traitors?

          • Trainspotter
            Posted July 28, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

            Chechar: “He certainly could not have killed almost a hundred elite adults.”

            Disclaimer: I’m certainly not advocating anything of the sort, but as a practical matter, I don’t see why he couldn’t have. The Labour party doesn’t have functions, get togethers, and large scale meetings that are populated by adults? I’m sure they do. The fact is that all political parties of any significance have all sorts of shindigs, some social and some overty political.

            Point is, if Breivik had wanted to hurt the Labour Party, he could have done so by targeting adults. Again, not advocating anything, just making a statement of fact. He instead chose to slaughter youth attending a summer camp, the most sympathetic Labourites of all. There is no getting around this.

            Had he targeted an adult function or large scale gathering, would not the costs to Labour have been similar? Of course. Everyone would have gotten the message. But the downsides would have been far less. There is nothing worse than for a resistance movement to be discredited. Face it: Breivik is a kook. Apparently, he spent huge sums of money, not to mention quite a bit of time, and he chose to slaughter teenagers.

            Chechar: “OK, what about Gavrilo Princip instead, who set off a chain of events that led to WWI.”

            If Breivik ends up setting off a chain of events that leads to war, then so be it. That seems highly unlikely, and in fact he has probably made it less likely by saddling any resistance movement, totally unnecessarily, with the albatross of child killing.

            In any event, a terrorist can’t take credit for such an unpredictable result. He can only take credit for predictable results. Otherwise, anyone can do anything, however evil and stupid, and then claim credit because of some fluke result. No meaningful resistance movement can operate in such a fashion.

            As I’ve said elsewhere, it is most accurate to view him as the canary in the coal mine. He represents the opening salvo in an eventual conflict between the indigenous peoples of Europe and the traitorous elites. Like the canary, he is not a leader, but rather a signal. Nothing good that may follow can be credited to him, and he has done any future resistance movement no favors. This after enormous sums spent and a tremendous amount of planning. Amazing.

            • Posted July 28, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

              Thanks for this reply. As to your points, only time will tell. Yesterday I received hundreds of hate traffic from Little Green Footballs. But a commenter of a blog in Finnish (Google translation) said that in these desperate times I was only trying to keep the Radical Right flag up.

  32. Sam Davidson
    Posted July 28, 2011 at 5:44 am | Permalink

    “The fact that more than a few of the commenters on various internet boards can’t understand (or at least pretend, in the case of trolls) the most simple and basic rule that, well, target selection actually matters, is both amazing and scary.”

    The inability of most White Nationalist inclined websites to control their own comments sections is, at times, infuriating.

  33. Posted July 28, 2011 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    Dear Chechar,

    Yes, I have read a lot of science fiction, and “Childhood’s End” has long been one of my favorites. Do I know you under a different name from somewhere else?

    I understand your point, but I see the odds that an attack like this at inspiring a wider war of any kind to be nil. Our people just aren’t ready. The cultural and spiritual preparation needs to be done first. Right now everyone is too immersed in Americanism to care about anything real. If we can make those preparations, war may not even be necessary.

    • Posted July 28, 2011 at 11:13 am | Permalink

      Dear Chechar,

      Yes, I have read a lot of science fiction, and “Childhood’s End” has long been one of my favorites. Do I know you under a different name from somewhere else?

      Well, before using my nick I used to write under my real name in Spanish, or in English as I did when some years ago I typed excerpts of Childhood’s End in my Wikipedia user page.

      I agree with you that people are sleeping in the Matrix. But I bet that about ten or twenty Breivik-like events might start putting a little stress on their sweet sleep.



  34. Fourmyle of Ceres
    Posted July 28, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    This thread is an ironic juxtaposition with the “Worse Is Better” thread, and the superglue that binds them is the most unremarked upon comment that is the best example of first-rate thinking, after Harold Covington, concerning us I have read in years.

    Juxtapose the two threads, and see the total importance of Greg Johnson’s Insight concerning so many who self-identify as “White Nationalists,” using that manifestation of Western Civilization as a thin reed upon which to prop up an already shaky persona To paraphrase and extend:

    They have already lost. They have already surrendered. All we see is nihilistic narcissism, the acting-out of Children adopting the Forms without the Substance, NSDAP regalia being worn by people who would not be allowed near Munich, much less Bad Tolz.

    In one single phrase, Greg has shown us why so much of what is called “White Nationalism” – and damn, but I am using that term loosely – the best Idea, derived from the best Ideals, has people claiming to represent it you would not allow in the same room with you.

    That ties in with Bezmenov’s analysis of the process of demoralization, leading to personal ineffectiveness, which is the key to internalizing disempowerment. Take this one step further, and you see how people are desperate for validation, and go to extreme lengths to support and live in a fantasy world, while refusing to do the simplest good deed to change themselves for the better.

    Theirs is the response of the Child – change the world to meet MY standard, which have led to me being a miserably ineffective person. Thus, they overcompensate, and walk along the unwise/illegal/stupid use of force continuum. They attempt to force us to accept their Terms, their Definitions, and see us as little more than passive fools who need to show them a little respect; this, the hallmark of the Child, through Adolescence.


    Above all, Breivik was a Loser. Well-heeled, yes, but from the perspective of individual intellectual, moral, spiritual development, simply a Child in a Man’s body.


    Some have seen fit to comment that this shows “them” that their Children are not safe from, well, people like us. Worse, people like us are not safe from people who look like us, act like us, and carry Lucy’s Rules Football tattooed on the inside of their skulls.

    Singularly ineffective, he created martyrs for THEIR Cause.


    We can learn from this, in so many ways. I long argued that Someone who was trusted by Robert Mathews and David Eden Lane, SOMEONE, continually “suggested” to them that the use of force/use of deadly force was appropriate in a “revolutionary” moment. SOMEONE they respected “suggested” to them that the use of force against the greatest military and intelligence system in the history of the world was a really good idea.

    Likewise, I would well imagine SOMEONE “suggested” to Breivik, in a thousand ways, that “an example needs to be made, something ‘they’ would never forget.” Well, Anders, you can rest assured “they” will never forget, and thank you very much for providing them with moral legitimacy, and a tool for their very successful fundraisers worldwide.

    Right now, a group is claiming blocks and streets in London for sharia, claiming them as Sharia Zones. The token resistance the locals seem to put up to this says they know they will win the next Battle of London hands down.

    Offered as a though exercise for the class:

    What would you have done instead, if you had been Anders Breivik; if you had his resources, his time, and his skills?

    Alternative question:

    What does the view from outside your bedroom in 2050 look like? What did you do to make it better, and what didn’t you do to make it worse?

    What White Nationalism has been defined as, and has been allowed to become, as a political force, attracts too many losers. Worse, the losers act to block and distort our signal so the people who could benefit from it never get to hear it, much less see what it could look like. There’s a reason for that.

    A short “Lessons Learned” commentary, “Charlie Brown Strikes Back!” to follow.

    What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

    • Posted July 28, 2011 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

      FC, In the first minutes of Covington’s latest podcast he mentions Breivik but he doesn’t consider him a loser.

      • Fourmyle of Ceres
        Posted July 28, 2011 at 6:53 pm | Permalink


        Thanks for the heads up for Harold’s latest podcast. I’ll download it tomorrow. At his worst, he has something education to say. At his best, he reminds us of our duty to the metapolitical purpose, and the best way to encapsulate that in a phrase. He also makes fools of the critics of his position, about which I’ll have more to say in the “Charlie Brown Rides Again” post in this thread.

        What’s In YOUR Future? Focus Northwest!

  35. White Republican
    Posted July 30, 2011 at 11:55 pm | Permalink

    I’m not sure if my memory is correct, but didn’t Greg Johnson express the intention a while ago of writing an article on effectively identifying and dealing with the assorted fools, cranks, misfits, and sociopaths who are all too common on our side? Such an article might be particularly timely. Of course, removing human rubbish is both a perennial task and one that is long overdue, so it is not something that can be effectively addressed with a single article. People are often naive, ignorant, forgetful, and irresolute in these matters.

    Similar considerations are applicable to agent provocateurs and informants, on which there is an extremely informative article by Gary T. Marx, “Thoughts on a Neglected Category of Social Movement Participant: the Agent Provocateur and the Informant” (American Journal of Sociology, vol. 80, 1974, pp. 402-442) at:

    We need to address these noxious elements with greater seriousness, vigilance, and intelligence, to recognise how useless and dangerous they can be, to be on guard against them, and to take effective measures against them.

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