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Greg Johnson Interviewed About Savitri Devi on the BBC
Greg Johnson
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On Tuesday, May 30th, I was interviewed at the BBC studios for a 28-minute audio documentary about Savitri Devi by Maria Margaronis, produced by Shabnam Grewal. You can listen to the documentary here and read the accompanying article by Maria Margaronis here.
Maria Margaronis is a Left-wing journalist of Greek descent who mentioned that she has a Jewish husband. (The producer, Shabnam Grewal, is a British citizen of Sikh descent.) Thus Maria was obviously not predisposed to agree any sort of White Nationalism, much less someone as far out as Savitri Devi, which she makes clear in both the article and the documentary. That said, and I was impressed by the care, effort, and discernment Maria put into her research. For instance, I thought the excerpts from Savitri’s autobiographical interviews were quite well-chosen.
It is always a gamble to speak to Left-wing journalists, but in this case, I think the results help White Nationalism more than they harm us.
The interview lasted more than an hour, but only a few bits made it into the documentary. Nevertheless, I thought the segments were well-chosen, and I believe that I acquitted myself well. Please share your thoughts below.
I want to thank Maria and Shabnam for including me in this project and for being unfailingly personable and professional in our dealings.
I also wish to thank Counter-Currents’ readers and donors for making this interview possible while I was in London for the Jonathan Bowden Dinner and the London Forum.
Greg Johnson
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20 comments
I thought the actress reading the words of Savitri Devi did a good job.
Was there much more to the part of the conversation that ended ‘but you’re talking about ethnic cleansing in the 21st century’?
Yes, I replied that diversity is just a euphemism for the ethnic cleansing of whites. The goal of White Nationalism is to reverse that process.
Yes I thought that might be exactly what was missing 😉
I don’t understand how they rationalize this but I suppose it varies with the individual.
Every mainstream interviewer, every single one, has to add their own views about how they are anti-racist, emotionally so (“I lost it there”). She seemed like a professional journalist up to that point. To act otherwise would be to jeopardize her career.
Well done, GJ. Would be interesting to hear your portion of the interview in its entirety.
With respect to comment here on actress reading Devi’s writing … a nice enough voice, but was a bit disingenuous and self-serving to give her a Bengali accent, don’t you think? Devi was European and didn’t go to India until she was an adult. The Indian relative interviewed was a member of her husband’s family.
The voice actress was imitating Savitri’s accent in the tapes.
Thanks. That’s interesting. I listened to some of the recordings of her speaking, posted on this website in ‘Savitri Devi Speaks’, and didn’t notice an Indian accent.
If “Katana” is reading this s/he might like to consider adding the programme to his/her library of show transcripts – in this case, as a petri dish for growing a whole new array of diacritics sufficiently extensive to communicate all the bias, spin, subtexts, express sneer/smear quotes , innunendoes etc grammatical, tonal, surd or not, &c. deployed by this interviewer and her ilk. Her denunciatory commentary really was a litany of “Leftish” cliche’s. Rayceest! Nazeee! Faceeest!
@GJ either you have the patience of a saint, or you are unaccustomed to the typical “B”BC bias on most subjects particularly concerning White identity (aliter: White people just wanting to be left the fuck alone for once). Under the circumstances I think you did a good job, but I’d second the motion of publishing an mp3 of all your interview on this site and suggest that in future interviews of this kind it would be refreshing to counter the interviewer’s hostility by pointing out that any assertion of White identity is simply doing what Jews do themselves. It might even be an interesting overture to a discussion of just who was responsible for murdering 66+million people in “Soviet” Russia if it provokes the usual retort that White Identity = “Nazism”.
The part where they briefly aired seventh son reading was funny. So was the part where she gasped upon hearing about sending blacks to live in a separate country. So prim and proper was she.
The part about Pageets making idols to Hitler during WWII made me laugh.
This was simply fantastic. This was the first time I heard Savitri Devi’s voice. It must mean something that views like Devi’s can actually be discussed. Perhaps we are entering a new age?
Cannot afford a lot right now, but have to send Greg some money. This is great work for the cause.
Thanks so much
There were some lovely anecdotes of SD’s life in this program, hands down the best part was that “she loved all gods creatures – except the Jews.”
Well done Greg.
Significantly, I had already heard the interview on BBC after a friend sent me a link. As always you did a great job Greg: calm, rational, erudite and impossible to ruffle. The opposition is incapable of handling such a sophisticated and balanced voice. Having yr voice heard on the mainstream media is consequently a huge breakthrough.
I’m no fan of SD and found Martin Webster’s comments revealing but whatever you think of SD this can only be positive. It will be interesting to see how the interview impacts on the archive and, more importantly, C-C as you need all the support you can get.
Sartor
Thanks so much
Thought this was a great programme – very powerful. It will have a big long-term impact, akin to the huge impact the television documentary based on late lamented Nicholas Goodricke-Clarke’s ”The Occult Roots of Nazism’ had all those years ago. Up until that time most people thought of National Socialism as materialist & anti-spiritual, but Goodricke-Clarke’s books, (others of interest include ‘Hitler’s Priestess: Savitri Devi’ and ‘Black Sun’), and the TV documentary spin-off were a game-changer. Even Christians and others opposed to the occult found something of interest in the chivalrous, knightly take on Christianity of Jorg Lanz Van Liebenfels and his enthusiasm for August Strindberg’s novella ‘Tschandala’, (available in English from on-line book stores). Likewise in this radio programme, not every possible sympathiser will be attracted to Savitri’s particular philosophy, so it was useful that an alternative, rather more down to earth white nationalist view was so ably and humorously articulated by Martin Webster. Hard work pays off – well done and keep it up!
dear greg, i only wanna hear YOUR words. can you tell us the time stamp? thaaanx
I’m flattered, but I don’t have time for that.
Go to 4:10 for his intro and dulcet tones!
I am interested in Devi’s marriage (civil ceremony, Calcutta, 29 September, 1939) to the non-white Bengali Brahmin Sri Asit Krishna Mukherji, editor of the pro-Axis Magazine, The New Mercury.
On her Wikipedia page it says she married him in 1940. On his, it says, “He married Savitri Devi in 1940 in order to protect her from deportation or internment.” No sources are given for either.
My question is, as a pro white National Socialist, why marry a non-White. And is it true that she did it for the above reason? Forgive my ignorance but it seems odd to do so of that is not the case.
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