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Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 302 Nicholas Jeelvy, Jim Goad, & The Boomer Question
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On this episode of Counter-Currents Radio, Greg Johnson is joined by Nicholas R. Jeelvy and Jim Goad to discuss the “Boomer” question, the Gryoper movement, and your questions.
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After also being schooled by Catholic priests and witnessing their idiotic behaviour, overly suspicious interest in under-age girls and delight in inflicting pain to boys, that was enough to put me off the con game that is religion for life.
Jim,the Novus Ordo is not the Catholic Church.
We haven’t had a Pope since 1958.
John XXIII-Francis I are anti popes.
Some us of us were traditional Catholics 10-25 yrs before the Groyper movement and it’s not a trend in our daily lives.
Jim is intelligent + talented but i can’t take his Fr**m*s*nic talking points.
I’m not accusing Jim of being a F***m*s*n,rather his ideas.
Interesting talk and both Men made very good valid points.
A potential cause for boomer selfishness that is biological. Their parents lived through one of the most stressful periods in human history. This leads to chronic release of stress hormones in their parents on an unprecedented level that can also have an effect on women’s eggs and men’s sperm producing cells. The effect on women’s eggs would be especially harmful given that they are not replenished. So, in the aftermath of WW2 the boomer generation are born from eggs bombarded by stress hormones. Evolutionarily speaking it would be unlikely that there were not, some time in the distant past, similar times of excess stress, if perhaps not the scale of WW2, but nonetheless severe enough to generate such stress hormone affected eggs, and the sufficient time to develop evolutionary responses to such signalling. Perhaps the evolutionary coping mechanism to hard times is a psychological selfishness that transcends politics and perhaps even familial bonds. Severe parental stress leads to an excess of selfishness and self-interestedness in the subsequent generation. So, boomers may have what is claimed of them, but it is not their fault and is merely an evolutionary psychological mechanism to pre-conception stress.
Of course this is speculation. But I have never heard anyone mention the possible effects of severe stress on the eggs of males and females, and how that might affect the next generation after conception. Transgenerational effects may be continous effects lumping problems upon problems without anti-stress environments and the knowledge that these anti-stress environments may be much more important than envisioned. Which is to say, multiculturalism itself may be a cause of such problems, and even of potential infertility. Whereas homogenous societies are less stressful and thus have more positive effects transgenerationally.
#1 There’s also Generational curses spoken of in Sacred Scripture.
Sin’s of the Father are passed onto his Son’s and Grandson’s.
#2 Baby Boomers were the first Generation to live as adults during the
Novus Ordo apostasy.
For the first time since 315 A.D. Traditional Catholicism had been driven underground into modern day catacombs.
(small traditional chapels outside control of apostate Rome)
Couple that with Feminism
Cable Television outsourcing etc and you have the first adult Generation who were victims of psychological warfare without being told.
Still,Baby Boomers were the last White Generation who got married and had 2 or 3 or children per marriage.
That alone is more important than all the internet articles + comments of the last 20 years.
My Generation (Gen X) are the biggest bunch of lowlife backstabbing effeminate freaks the World has ever hosted.
Why are you treating “boomer selfishness” as if it’s an established fact? Care to provide evidence? Stats…something…anything?
Jim, I am not really proposing it as an established fact as you put it. I am not trying to blame you for the ills of the world either. On a personal level, I like your writing, and view you as a successor to the likes of PJ O’Rourke and HL Mencken before him, though I think you enjoy the controversy more than either of them. You are dialled up to 11.
Anyway, on the boomer point, it is more of a “no smoke without fire” heuristic. I have experienced on many occasions the self-centredness of this generation, and yet that only makes it an anecdote, and that is not evidence. I could have been unlucky. I could have been judging a situation unfairly. But you seem interested enough in the idea that environmental stressors could have real transgenerational effects though cell biology that you don’t react with your usual sledgehammer wit but rather with a request for evidence, which is not unreasonable. On the one hand if no one has done any actual scientific investigation of such a thing, how could there be any? And I can tell you there has been for many decades the active suppression of such views, yet, on the other hand, even if there weren’t scientific evidence, there would be anecdote everywhere. How often is pattern recognition true, and how often false, and how often do we accept as true that which is false, and how often do we accept that which is false as true? In essence the problems of type 1 and type 2 errors. Perhaps the boomer badge is, as yet, to be confirmed or refuted, but the idea of transgenerational effects at the level of reproductive cells might be worthy of some consideration as a general idea to begin with. A working hypothesis for what seems to be the unrelenting shit shower that we are faced with called life. Darwin and Lamarck certainly had some kind of mechanism for this, which has been largely excised by Neo-Darwinism. But to make clear, as I said in my original post, that boomers could not be blamed for what they could have no control over – which would be pre-conception effects on the gametes that make up the zygote from which they are formed. I would expect these transgenerational effects to be ongoing and to lead to reactions across time – it may lead to the kind of sociological phenomona such as is put forward in the likes of the Fourth Turning. I know that book can come across as somewhat Astrological. Yet, it would not surprise me that some of the memes that have grown out of such a mutli-generational theory should have actual biological validity, much in the way, by analogy, connectionist theory in psychology mimics the biological connections extant in the human brain.
So, in sum, and with qualification, I answer your question, I don’t have any scientific evidence to say boomers are especially self-centred, I just noticed it in my life, and then I noticed that others seemed to notice it too. It does not make it true, because it could be an artefact of confirmation bias. It could also be a bunch of losers looking to blame winners, of course that could be confirmation bias also, and it suffers from temporal bias. One cannot be a winner unless one has already been through a process, and processes occur across time.
In truth, I personally do not much care if boomers are more selfish or not. My interest is more in the general concept that significant environmental stressors, both on an individual level, and at the group level, could have effects on the reproductive systems of an organism in such a way that there are behavioural effects in subsequent generations that may indeed be responsive to the trials of previous generations. This has profound implications for public policy. And in a sense, the noticing I mentioned earlier, would lead to political and social issues of our time concerning multiculturalism and the mixing of cultures and races which naturally creates enironmental stress. The damage of the excesses of liberal behaviour, the reaction of conservatism and populism. To borrow from Ridley Scott’s Gladiator, one might say stress echoes in eternity.
Repeated comments that note and observe similar behavioural trends are evidence.
I may add that your own defensive response on this thread to criticisms of that generation is quite boomer-like.
Goad dogging Christians, AGAIN, is really disappointing.
Does Goad realize the percentage of Christians that live in the US and other Western nations?
Is this good for Counter-Currents viewership?
Priests and pastors are humans; therefore capable of mistakes, Goad.
Do not blanket Christianity to partially and or completely blame for the present blight upon Western civilization.
Do you realize that Christianity is a majority nonwhite religion worldwide and that Jesus never set foot in Europe?
St. Paul sounds like an anti-identitarian globalist:
“There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” —Galatians 3:28
Cheap and overused shot, Jim. I’m actually more dissapointed in your lack of maturity when you ‘debate’
Jeevely must have nerves of steel to put up with your pomposity.
I also noted your lack of attacks on jews while foaming at the mouth at Christians. Why is that? Are you a jew?
Check my most recent “The Worst Week Yet.” CRAMMED with Jews.
To my knowledge, there are no Jewish Groypers, and the subject was Groypers. They’re all Christians—in fact, they insist that everyone be Christian. They insist on that more than being white. Their spiritual godfather, the senile loon E. Michael Jones, denies the very existence of whiteness. In practice, they’ve swapped out whiteness for Christianity.
So by talking about Christianity, I was staying on-topic…something you apparently don’t know how to do with your abrupt Jew Pivot.
Would liked to have heard a lot more about your view that everyone became afraid of WN politics after Charlottesville.
By the way, the guy in the red, white, and blue cowboy hat, bearing the brunt of the vile Ali’s hatred of Hillbillies, was Jason Kessler, a principle organiser of C-ville. So, there was even more to that exchange. Fuentes has pretty much given Kessler the Allsup treatment.
Jim… guy… you need to read the contemporary literature of St. Paul before applying some 21st century interpretation to ancient scriptures.
An analogy to your interpretation of Paul would be like arguing in 1000 years that the Saxon-Americans and the Saxon-British who fought against the Saxon- Germans in WW1&2 were of different ethnicities. Sounds stupid today, but wait until 2000 years have passed and the entire nation of Germany is Turkic but still called Germans, the Brits are all Pakis but called Anglos, and the Americans are all Mexinogs. Someone who reads ancient documents about the war but with the modern (future to us) won’t understand that it was a racial brothers war.
Are you aware that ancient Greeks and Judeans (from whom our moderns yidz do NOT genetically descend) were the same ethnic people? Try Diodorus Siculus, Strabo, Flavius Josephus, and the chronicles of the Maccabees. There is almost no other facts more supported in history than this! And yet, the preachers today don’t know it and neither do you.
Is Jim aware that Paul (properly translated) 1000% forbids interracial mixing in II Corinthians 6?
Is Jim aware that Paul (properly translated) 1000% affirms the NON-UNIVERSALISM of the covenants of God in Galatians 3? You don’t just join if you aren’t biologically descended from the ancient covenants.
I can talk about these technicalities from dawn till dusk as a programmer can discuss the workings of a program.
It is technical fact, not some religious belief bullshit. And if white people could get an unblemished translation of scripture in their hand, the first thing they would read in Genesis 1 is that the divine appointed WHITE MAN to have the dominion!!
To ancient Israelites, non-Adamites were considered animals. The word “arab” is a hebrew word that meant “darkened.” The word “Adam” meant “blushing, ruddy, showing blood in skin.” So when the authors of ancient scripture wrote “the sons of Adam” they literally had the image of racially white children in mind.
That is the world into which scripture came. The Levant, Egypt, Libya, Ethiopia, Mesopotamia, Anatolia, and the Indus were at one time pristine white civilizations. They were browned by the islamics beginning in the 7th century AD.
Every damn thing i’ve said can be documented in the classics of the ancient Greeks.
Anybody that wants Christians to believe they should share their faith with people who the writers of the bible didn’t even regard as people are charlatans and change ancients.
But these things aren’t cool to talk about in church OR white nationalist circles. Interesting. Both believe what yidz want them to believe about the bible.
“Priests and pastors are humans; therefore capable of mistakes…”
Like hiding their crimes behind wealthy institutions, importing non-Whites to replace us, or indulging in extracurricular activities such as this :
https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/priest-arrested-for-obscenity-for-allegedly-having-sex
No, mistakes are forgetting to pick up milk on the way home, or making an honest bad financial decision. I’m certainly no expert, but in my experience, religion and their priests etc have not been friendly to the interests of Whites.
For a future podcast, could you please interview PhilosophiCat? She has posted interesting content. Especially on Telegram.
Groyper King Nick Fuentes steadfastly denies being white.
http://www.jimgoad.net/images/fuentweets.png
That’s funny, reminds me of typical jewish shape-shifting behaviour reminiscent of dialogue in (((Heller’s))) Catch 22.
Capt. Nately: Don’t you have any principles?
Old man in whorehouse: Of course not!
Capt. Nately: No morality?
Old man in whorehouse: I’m a very moral man, and Italy is a very moral country. That’s why we will certainly come out on top again if we succeed in being defeated.
Capt. Nately: You talk like a madman.
Old man in whorehouse: But I live like a sane one. I was a fascist when Mussolini was on top. Now that he has been deposed, I am anti-fascist. When the Germans were here, I was fanatically pro-German. Now I’m fanatically pro-American. You’ll find no more loyal partisan in all of Italy than myself.
Capt. Nately: You’re a shameful opportunist! What you don’t understand is that it’s better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It’s better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
Capt. Nately: How do you know?
Old man in whorehouse: Because I am 107-years-old. How old are you?
Capt. Nately: I’ll be 20 in January.
Old man in whorehouse : If you live.
Obviously a joke
BOOMERS
Not big on boomer-baiting, despite being Gen X and subject to ceaseless boomer-boomerism while growing up—to the point that I despised them and thought a boomer-caust objectively good thing in an of itself. “Day of the Pillow,” my azz. I was praying for thermonuclear boomer-cleansing. Cleansing atomic fire or GTFO. But we must realize than many boomer-crimes were actually greatest- & silent-generation crimes. So maybe generational generalizations and assignment of guilt is subject to enough caveats to not be worth the effort.
STULTIFYING ANTI-CHRISTIANITY
Of course, Jim indulges in anti-Christian bombast worthy of dismissal by reasonable men. Jim wouldn’t be Jim without it. I have heard the same arguments since junior high school from alienated R Catholics. Jim packages them better, but bitter ex-catholic religion-whingeing does not improve upon the Nth hearing. For someone like myself, who holds no great sympathy for the church of Rome or its functionaries, the numbers indicate that Roman Catholic institutions are MUCH less likely to abuse children in their charge. Roughly 100x less likely than secular government institutions performing the same tasks (teaching, caring for orphans, coaching, etc.). So something about the RC church has the effect of severely reducing the likelihood of child abuse among those who interact with children. The media does not dig any farther than “Father Badtouch touches boys badly, the details at 5pm.” Yep, Father Badtouch does exist in the RC church. Father Badtouch has earned himself a short-drop hanging. The queer bishops who did not hammer Fr Badtouch because Fr Badtouch has the homo goods on them deserve maybe the same hanging. Media and (((media))) does not go into the numbers or incidents in gov’t schools with nearly the gusto they save for the RC church.
GROYPER / LATIN TRADCATH UBER ALLES
Meh, Jim’s and liberal Christianity’s, and white-hating jehews’ use of Galatians ch3 does get old. Plenty of other citations that clarify Christ is for the nations (plural) and no necessity for a multi-ethnic polity. Matter of fact, the NT has warns against those who would set themselves up as world-rulers. Despite not being R Catholic my own self, I see plenty to like in Ferdinand Franco’s and Augusto Pinochet’s latin trad-cath semi-fascist rule. The right folks got helicoptered and/or managed and Franco kept Spain out of the calamity that was WWII. Would that the USA had been guided so wisely.
“So something about the RC church has the effect of severely reducing the likelihood of child abuse among those who interact with children.”
Tell that to the nuns who beat the shit out of me and my brother.
Tell it to the priest who ruined my father’s funeral and then got defrocked for touching boys: https://jimgoad.net/index.shtml?fatherjones
“So something about the RC church has the effect of severely reducing the likelihood of child abuse among those who interact with children.”
And do tell that to the nun teaching a summer catechism class who ridiculed a few children from one particular family in the parish (they didn’t even wear shoes, they were white trash rural poor), saying to those children, and all of us:
“Your parents don’t give enough to the Church! Look at Danny Thomas, how much he gives!”
I’m not making this up, I could not even if I tried. I guess we were supposed to go home after class and tell our parents to stop being so stingy.
I was there, I was in that class. Maybe that’s when my hatred started.
“For someone like myself, who holds no great sympathy for the church of Rome or its functionaries, the numbers indicate that Roman Catholic institutions are MUCH less likely to abuse children in their charge. Roughly 100x less likely than secular government institutions performing the same tasks (teaching, caring for orphans, coaching, etc.)”
Absolutely not true. In fact, even K-12 teaching has lower rates of abuse than RC institutions. This includes descriptions such as flirting to full sexual contact.
These figures are a few years old, but I believe they are relatively stable over time with associated links. http://www.bishop-accountability.org/AtAGlance/data_priests.htm
If between 4-9% of chefs in your town were ejaculating into diners food, would you go out and eat ?
The strange thing about the Boomers is how Boomers take the resentment incredibly personally. Which shows you they are conscious of their Boomer identity being problematic. In particular, that they are old now and their time in the sun is passed.
Boomers were the first generation to be raised by TV and now they’re angry about being held responsible for the way the world is now. If it bothers you, there must be some cognitive dissonance there.
“The strange thing about the Boomers is how Boomers take the resentment incredibly personally.”
That’s as dumb as saying that people who object to the “white privilege” meme are merely cloaking their guilt.
I don’t take it personally because I’m not guilty of anything boomers get accused of. I think it’s a dumb and divisive meme that you’ve been suckered into believing.
I have to say, what I heard of the podcast you sort of reminded me of Obama. With the complaining. I mean you’re the one complaining about “boomer-hate” – I’m just trying to explain it. There are stereotypes for classes, (even classes in high schools), stereotypes for generations, for a reason. As a tail-end boomer you are not like the older boomer who thinks he was part of making history in the 60s. You are right that the boomers didn’t set things into motion in the 60s. That isn’t their significance. Their significance is that they believed the bullshit about how “special” their generation was – and they are proud to this day of having been part of that history. You can have a conservative Republican religious boomer who worked for the McGovern campaign – he’s still proud of it. When Ned Flanders goes down to his Beatles basement – it’s pointing out something real about the boomers. Part of the reason they seem incapable of interfacing with the current state of the world.
Maybe you don’t take it personally – but you referenced your own life experience several times, as though it was directed towards you. “Dumb and divisive” – sounds like something Obama would say. Anglin has pointed it out several times that the Boomers get very sensitive about it. I don’t consider myself a boomer-hater but there are good reasons for the frustration that accounts for the meme, which has been magnified by a lot of youths who don’t know what they’re talking about, and are just trying to blame their parents for the world they live in. When the Antifags or Rainbow people say “you’re privileged” or “you’re latent” it’s not really the same. The Boomer is conscious that once the popular culture loved him as the Boomer – now he is conscious the winds have changed, and it gives him a chill. The stereotype of the boomer may not fit your background, but it shouldn’t really bother you. That’s part of what getting older is about. Or should be about.
I explain in great detail in the comment below why it’s dumb and divisive.
“Boomers were the first generation to be raised by TV and now they’re angry about being held responsible for the way the world is now.’
And Zoomers are the first generation to grow up with their eyes glued to smartphones and who think memes are a cogent argument. Zoomers are far more liberal, anti-“racist,” anti-traditionalism, and pro-open-borders than the Boomers ever were. This is a statistical fact. According to exit polls, Boomers are the only age demographic that leaned toward Trump in 2020. In fact, every younger cohort that bashes Boomers for allegedly dropping the cultural ball is far more leftist in every possible way than Boomers ever were. Show me a single poll that says otherwise.
It’d be easy for me to blame Zoomers for the fact that the country is falling apart right now. It’d also be stupid, which is why I don’t do it.
Some of you seem to live in tiny bubbles and think that since you know a half-dozen twenty-year-olds on Discord that think like you do, your entire generation is that way. Nope.
To blame a generation collectively for merely responding to the economy and technology they inherited is a classic case of misplaced blame. It also gets history backwards—except for a few brave outliers, the individual members of a generation don’t have enough agency to change circumstances; instead, they are changed BY circumstances. I assumed many of you were at least familiar enough with the way power works to realize this. For the most part, your vote and your voice don’t matter. The elites do whatever they want.
Here’s my theory for why Boomer-bashing is pervasive across the political spectrum:
In the 1970s, “ageism” was considered a sin among the left just like “racism” and “sexism,” because one’s birth year is an innate characteristic. But when was the last time you heard of the Grey Panthers?
At 62, both my brother and my former mother-in-law decided to cash in their Social Security benefits rather than wait until age 65. At 65, their benefits would have been more than twice as hefty than at 62, but neither one had any confidence there would be any funds left by that point.
My theory is that the elites—who looted the Boomers’ Social Security funds to spend on foreign wars and to toss money at bankers for fiat currency—are encouraging younger people across the political spectrum to say, “FUCK NO” to paying for the healthcare that the government looted from Boomers. That’s why you hear absolutely sick shit such as the “Day of the Pillow” meme that in many ways exceeds any revenge fantasies against nonwhites.
It’s also a way to split up potential allies along age lines and get them barking at one another. And it seems to have worked.
They sure have diverted your attention from the common enemy, haven’t they?
Here are two articles I’ve written about how supremely misguided the Boomer meme is:
https://www.takimag.com/article/generational-astrology-for-dummies/
https://www.takimag.com/article/the-day-of-the-pillow/
https://www.takimag.com/article/the-day-of-the-pillow/
My mother-in law died in a nursing home with brown staff who stole from her (we cared for her for 3 years in our home until we no longer could, and didn’t have the expertise to continue). I have thought about starting a business where White staff exclusively care for our elderly. Still just an idea, but we really need to distance ourselves from those who wish us harm and do not care for us.
Have thought about same, particularly using vets to gorm a community around the elderly. Reintegrate old and new. Let me know if want to discuss.
Well the younger generation (I’m Gen-X myself) can pick up on some of the stereotypical behavior of the boomers but has trouble articulating it beyond “You had a house and steady job with good wage at relatively young wage” – and it’s true, heck my brother is a neurosurgeon he’s already six years older than my father was when my father owned a house in a very nice neighborhood. He’s still renting. So things are getting harsher, there is a decline in the middle class and in living standards when measured by life achievements, but the boomer still has almost the same attitude as your father did when you were 19 and he cut you off – the boomer has not adapted to contemporary reality, he tries to fit things into the 60 generation paradigm he grew up with. You’re probably right the elites are going after old folks, but remember it was the boomers who believed Dr. Kevorkian was a hero. You don’t necessarily fit the profile of the stereotypical boomer. If you’re being shouted down with “boomer” because of your excellent article on Trump failing to do what he said he was going to do, that’s just juvenile behavior, taking advantage of the audience that ill-disposed to listen to older folks.
I didn’t get to the part of the podcast that went off on Catholicism, but a reason you see so many young Catholic right-wingers is that it was more trad Catholics who had children and raised them to buck contemporary society.
That + our Civilization has been brought to it’s collective knees by doing everything God forbids.
10 yrs ago I converted to traditional Catholicism (not the Novus Ordo anti church) because everything I had done ended being an utter disaster.
The reason we’re hearing more about trad Catholicism is because society can’t offer sobriety,peace,order,and a healthy mindset/lifestyle.
” remember it was the boomers who believed Dr. Kevorkian was a hero.”
One thing I’ve noticed about the Boomer meme is that no one ever uses statistics to buttress their argument. It’s just all constant fact-free emotional guilt-tripping…sort of how like Jews and blacks treat white people.
“In a Gallup Poll conducted during the weekend of December 28-29, 1998, only 40% of those polled viewed [Kevorkian] favorably, while 47% had an unfavorable opinion.”
https://news.gallup.com/poll/4009/kevorkian-face-murder-charges.aspx
If you have any more nonfactual gross generalizations you’d like me to explode, let me know.
This article may be typical media bullshit, but it fits a pattern of five decades of Boomerism: the media leads, the boomer follows. The media tells the boomer what he is, the boomer believes it. The boomer stereotype may be difficult to flesh out completely. Alan Bloom’s “Culture of Narcissism” is probably a malicious Jew slander, but there is no doubt, the boomer propaganda has been omnipresent for 50 years, and the boomer has, until recently, been the eager follower of boomer propaganda. So when the tide turns on the Boomer question as the new “woke” multi-racial shock troops of the next kiked out cultural revolution seeks its place in the sun, the boomer is suddenly shocked and angry at criticism. No, the boomers haven’t been in charge of what has been happening, but the people who celebrated the youth movement of 1968 has been throwing their weight around for a long time now, and it’s only natural that people wish that the rank and file Reagan-voting boomers were capable of realism and introspection. Of course, they are mostly too old to change.
“For eons, folks grew old, endured the symptoms, and died when it was their time—according to God’s will, some would say, even if it involved fighting through lingering illness, pain and suffering, or years of mental or physical incapacitation. A “good” death was about having lived long enough to see grandchildren, put one’s affairs in order, and pass away surrounded by a loving family.
Boomers don’t see it that way. To them, a good death is more about a good life. When they can’t have that any longer, it’s time to pull the plug. This will be the first generation to broadly eschew painful life-extending procedures and make the most of palliative care to live better in fewer days, and then die with dignity.”
https://business.time.com/2013/08/14/a-good-death-how-boomers-will-change-the-world-a-final-time/
*Christopher Lasch
“If you’re being shouted down with “boomer” because of your excellent article on Trump failing to do what he said he was going to do, that’s just juvenile behavior.”
Oh, it goes back way before that.
Like I said on the livestream with the story about my brother putting down the phone, going out to change his oil, and coming back inside to hear that his wife is still yabbering as if he’d never left, it’s the fact that I could go to Greenland for 10 years, come back, and you’d still be talking about Boomers. It’s like a monomaniacal obsession with a certain cohort.
What irks me about it has nothing to do with me personally—it’s the the entire idea makes zero sense for reasons I’ve already explained.
Sort of how like they say alcoholism is a disease.
Or that rape has nothing to do with sex.
Or that race doesn’t exist but that racism is everywhere.
When I hear things that don’t make any sense being blindly repeated like a mantra, something inside me screams. It’s why I write.
The elites fucked you AND me over. You’ve been played hard—and I realize that’s almost impossible for most people to admit, so instead you’ll double down on the nonsense.
By the way, what form of “traditionalism” involves endlessly bashing the village elders? Sometimes I wonder if you can even hear yourselves. It’s both pathetic and hilarious from an outsider’s perspective.
Thanks so much for doing this podcast on the Boomer Question (BQ), Jim. I like how you situate how generations are influenced by their forebearers, culture, technology, politics, and environment. Given how much technology and the economy has changed….I do think, however, there is a larger communication gap between the generations. And younger generations rightly get frustrated with Boomers on one point (but then, as you say, insanely extend that to Day of the Pillow fantasies)….the younger generations get frustrated because Boomers think the country is still the nation of the 1960s that was 85-90% European-American. Younger racially aware Europeans are under no such illusions and have a difficult time getting Boomers to see this reality.
Respectfully, we cannot all be Jim Goad. Some time ago RamzPaul made an analogy to the fighting elan of the French army. Charging headlong into enemy machine-gun fire is brave, but it gained their cause little and perhaps cost it a lot.
“Be extremely subtle even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.”
– Sun Tzu
“Jim is trying to say ‘not all Boomers.’
We got a mind-reader here!
No, I’m saying NO boomers had the personal agency to wreck society in the way that’s alleged, no generation is more righteous than any other generation, and that the meme falls to pieces under the slightest scrutiny. Have your mom read my more in-depth explanations on this page to you slowly.
I never complained about all women—that’s a Groyper thing.
I complained about some of the women in my life.
I also complained about societal double standards that allowed malicious women to get away with murder.
As a millennial i think boomers are a little naive, nonetheless jim makes great rational points throughtout the entire debate. I think this hating on boomers is just another divide tactic the jews love just like the mgtow incels hating on woman.
As for groyper king nick i dont know what more can be said after the twitter pic jim posted, the guy is a multiculti civnat who blindly support the zio trump agenda.
Thank you for your service jim goad, your sense of humer is greatly appreciated in these dark times
Happy thanksgiving to all whites wherever you are in this world
We’ve seen “White sharia” and other similar malicious nonsense coming from the sociopathic grifter/fake nationalism (DS/AA) that also promotes “anti-Boomer” nonsense.
Our benefactors from the desert have a saying about splitting a hair 16 times. THAT, in our context, means A LOT of polarization. Oh boy, have they split hairs, because so far we have woman against man, browns/blacks against confused Whites, mutants against able people, generation against generation, suicidal political cults (dems and reps) that make “Heaven’s Gate” look rational, and more!
More Jim Goad please!
Er, I meant Christopher Lasch, not Alan Bloom.
I just loved how Goad ripped Jeelvy’s a new one in regard to the RC and Christianity in general( and yeah for you Catholic cheerleaders your beloved priests and popes fucked and raped underaged boys and girls long before 20th century ).
He reminded me a little be on the late Hitch; yeah i know that they are ideologically on the opposite sides, but the passion and ruthlessness in debate with religious fanatic is the same ( only similar thing I see in ex-muslim community, because western atheist movement basically become a soyboy game of white-washing islam idiocy while raped by ragheads and blaming it all on Christianity or if you are ideologically rightwing blame it all on the Islam and Muslim goatfuckers while sucking evangelical or catholic/orthodox priests’ cocks as they promote christian medieval lunacy as the only salvation from muslim medieval lunacy.
The difference between Hitch and Goad is in the approach; Hitch was finely edged rapier who destroyed his opponents by the death of thousand cuts while enjoying mentally fucking them up while Goad has more of battle axe approach; basically he destroys you, shits downs your throat moves on. But in the end the result was the same listening Jeevly’s stuttering and his cheap second hand christian mysticism retort was music to my ears
I would love to see Jim Goad debate E. Michael Jones, but that might be way to much Philly in one place.
Boomer Goad’s defensiveness about Boomers is weird for someone who is as adverse to identifying as a member of a collective as he is. Be that as it may, let’s address a few of his arguments.
The ‘respect your elders’ argument is specious. Elders are to be respected because traditionally they are more rational, level-headed and wise than their children. I respect my great great grandfathers, who believed pretty much everything I believe. I don’t respect the woman who gave birth to me, an immoral, narcissistic Boomer who cheers on the Great Replacement while she flees to spend her retirement in the Whitest city in Canada.
The ‘lack of agency’ argument also rings hollow. The reason Boomers are contemptible is NOT that they were degenerate hedonists in their youth. I (gen Xer) was a degenerate hedonist in MY youth. The reason is that they are old enough to remember how good things used to be before the 3rd world invasion, there are plenty of opportunities for them to see how much worse things have gotten, and yet they tenaciously cling to their Satanic hippie values. They inherited the Garden of Eden and left us a pile of rubble, overrun by savages, and yet they demonstrate not the tiniest shred of remorse or contrition.
What makes matters worse is that they will almost all die before the nation they destroyed collapses. And they will go to their graves thinking they were good people.
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