When you understand that history is cyclical, not something linear and always moving towards “progress”; that civilizations rise, fall, and reform into something new in a never-ending cycle, you may perhaps feel better about your place in that cycle. You may realize that the cycle is necessary, and that while it can be unpleasant to live during the “fall” stage, there will always be the “rebirth” stage. There will always be the possibility that something will emerge, something new and perhaps even more glorious than the civilization that preceded it. Hard Times Make Good Men, etc.
But there is another stage in the cycle, one that completes — or perhaps it’s more accurate to say “terminates” — the cycle. It’s the stage of extinction, and it’s what I’m afraid awaits not just Western-kind, but all of humanity.
There are several examples of civilizations which have suffered the extinction phase. For some, like the Aztecs or the Atlanteans, the process was cataclysmic and catastrophic. More often, however, the process is long and unnoticeable, until eventually there is hardly any living trace of the people who formed the erstwhile civilization.
If the fate of “the West” were simply to pass through the cycle of rise, fall, and rebirth/reformation without having to meet the terminal phase of extinction, perhaps I’d feel more optimistic, more tranquil, like the enlightened person mentioned earlier who understands and embraces this cycle. But I feel — and perhaps you feel it, too — that we’re facing extinction and that is why we are so uneasy, and see the future as nothing but grim. There are two reasons why I think Europeans, and eventually all humanity, is in danger of extinction.
The first is obvious. Europeans make up a tiny fraction of the human population, and our already small number relative to those other populations is decreasing. Not only decreasing, but we are being wiped out and replaced in our own and only homelands.
Troy fell. But Aeneas and a handful of Trojans survived and, according to legend, became the progenitors of the Romans. Rome fell. But the Romans survive today in the genome of modern Italians. The Roman Empire arose from the fall in its new form, the Holy Roman Empire. The European nations arose. Europe after Rome was reborn into something perhaps even more mighty and glorious, one might argue. The point being that as long as the people survived and continued to pass on their genetics and bio-spirit, the civilizations founded and nurtured by those people only experienced a fall, followed by a rebirth.

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What happens when the people don’t survive? Extinction. What will happen to Western civilization if our numbers continue to fall and our kind continues to be replaced? There won’t be a reformation or rebirth of our civilization, because we won’t be around to continue the cycle.
This also spells doom for the rest of humanity, as it is clear that the blessed European man has been the source of almost every great achievement of the human species. Achievements which spread to and throughout the tribes and civilizations of other men, elevating them to new and often improved planes of existence. Putting arguments about the merits of modernity aside for a moment, the simple fact is that over 95% of all technological and medical inventions or discoveries were realized by European men. What will the world be like when he is gone, reduced to a faraway, barely traceable blip in the human gene pool?
Now let’s address modernity, technology, and their merits. The final nail in humanity’s coffin, and the reason why the cycle won’t continue with rebirth and reformation, is the inescapable fact that we are tightening the chains of what can only be described as mankind’s universal enslavement. I say tightening the chains, because our enslavement is not a condition we are just now experiencing. We have been enslaved and chained up for a while now.
A History of Enslavement. A Future of Obsolescence.
I don’t know exactly when, what exact date in history I could point to and say, “This is when we all became enslaved,” but the creation of central banks in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries is a good place to start. With the ubiquity of smart technology, the surveillance state, the advent of artificial intelligence, transhumanism, and the New World Order which is founded on the approaching Fourth Industrial Revolution, we are seeing mankind sink further into a swamp which he won’t able to crawl out of — wet and exhausted, but at least alive and free.
Instead, the man of Extinction is trapped in giant cityscapes. His ability to dream, to make spontaneous decisions, is no more. His connection to nature goes no further than seeing the occasional row of trees planted amongst the asphalt, concrete, and skyscrapers. He is constantly monitored. Constantly plugged in to the throbbing, pulsating waves of 5G towers. His attention is always in demand. There is never a moment for pause, reflection, creation. Indeed, soon he won’t even recognize a desire for those things. He won’t know that he needs them.
He is constantly injected with concoctions that weaken his immune system and render him dependent on the centralized powers of the New World Order just to live without suffering painful or life-threatening diseases. His health and well-being is further degraded by his diet of synthetic and insect-based lab-grown “meat” and other ultra-processed foods that even a hungry dog turns its nose up at.
His only motivation is looking forward to the six days of vacation he is allowed to enjoy, if he’s lucky to get and/or afford that many. And when he goes on his vacation, he won’t even notice or be bothered by the fact that everywhere is the same. The same music. The same people. The same food. The same buildings. The same behavioral protocols and regulations.
Many humans all over the world have already been living like this for some time: enslaved by the banks. Enslaved by technology. Enslaved by the state. But at least there were ways of escaping. There were pockets of the world where people could live with as little interaction with the System as possible. They could live in nature. They could live in safe and prosperous societies in small villages and towns, enjoying the pleasure of a spontaneous walk in the woods or a raucous night in the pub with good company. Now, with the onset of this New World Order, this one-world governance of globohomo, and the fusion of the digital and the biological, I don’t see how we will still have those things that make us human. The 5G towers, digital identity systems, surveillance cameras, and the hordes of lesser humans whose purpose is to explode like biological weapons and destroy the safe and functioning society, will come — indeed, they have already arrived — to the towns and villages.
When the globalist vision of existence is finally and fully realized — and I don’t see anything stopping it — what way back will mankind have? What potential for a rebirth will there be? There is no escape. Or have you become so used to the word “globalism” that you’ve forgotten just what the first six letters refer to? This fate is for all of us. It is totalitarian, global in its scope and total in its range. There won’t be a speck of this Earth or a tribe walking it which won’t be reached by the stretching tentacles of the Fourth Industrial Revolution, the Internet of Things, the Internet of Bodies.
The unavoidable future of humanity is therefore to be nothing more than cattle forever controlled by the herders in Silicon Valley, in Brussels, in Beijing. The necessary human spirit which rebirth requires will be extinguished, as will be that race of human most capable of rising again and creating something new and of continuing the cycle.
If it weren’t for the looming figure of technological tyranny and the fusion of the digital with the biological, I could continue to believe in the cycle of history. I could believe that this ugly, dumb, and shallow civilization will meet its end, just as countless others have done, and a new and better civilization will slowly emerge.
But that must happen organically. That only happens because Nature is the guide, because men are free to be men, to unleash all their qualities both of creation and destruction as they forge a new world for themselves from the rubble of the old one. If we lose that, if we become chained to the wall of technocracy, AI, transhumanism, and a global government of cynical “managerial types,” then I’m afraid it’s no exaggeration to say that humanity as we understand it will become extinct.
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26 comments
Hey man, they say HELL is a lot worse, even than globohomo, so cheer up. Plus, the globohomo system that they have built is so fragile, it can’t last long, even if it takes us all down with it.
Putting arguments about the merits of modernity aside for a moment, the simple fact is that over 95% of all technological and medical inventions or discoveries were realized by European men.
Is that really accurate? Were inventions such as paper and gunpowder not just “copied” from the Chinese and then scaled in Europe to meet the needs of a new class of book-readers and warfaring-governments, respectively ?
One must also admit that many European “contributions” such as Pasteur’s Germ Theory have been absolute disasters, causing untold suffering not just for the white man but for humanity as a whole. And we can’t all just blame it on the Jews, certainly in Louis Pasteur’s case.
What do you mean by that?
Germs do not cause all disease, but infectious diseases are caused by germs.
Modern hygiene and public sanitation measures massively saved lives in the 19th and 20th centuries.
During the 1918 influenza pandemic, which killed between 50 million and 100 million worldwide, your typical country doctor had never even used a microscope or studied microbiology. His medical training instead consisted of watching hundreds of corpses be dissected or autopsied, and maybe some surgeries in an operating “theater.”
Your avuncular country doctor might or might not have some good stuff in his little black bag when he comes for a house call, but he wouldn’t know Koch’s Postulates from a hangover after a Saturday night poker game.
After World War I, a new crop of public-health-minded physicians and surgeons changed all that.
The only downside I can think of to modern medicine and so forth is that Europeans and Americans saving Third Worlders from themselves and early deaths from “bad blood” now makes them a demographic threat to Whites, especially Africans.
Also, people live much longer than they did in even the recent past, so many types of diseases that mankind used to rarely see like gout and dementia are now quite common in the elderly.
Those whose ancestors could not expect a nutritious meal every day or even every week might be more prone to diabetes because groceries are widely available today but some still have the hunter-gatherer genes that favor “feast or famine” in the demographics that never knew industrial agriculture until after Columbus sailed the blue ─ and European/Asian germs such as smallpox also “communicated” with those carried by Amerindians like syphilis.
This does not mean that we are less robust people than the Noble Savages that can drink the poopy well water in Mexico without (apparently) getting sick ─ quite the opposite.
Also, just because germs and vermin disease “vectors” like lice and fleas are all-Natural, does not make them Godly or even Good. Oriental Jews thought things like that ─ which is why the Germans had to force them to bathe and get their clothing sterilized or fumigated. The Horror.
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Dr. Andrew Kaufman has gone into detail refuting the germ theory. See his work.
(By the way, nobody in medicine today even bothers to acknowledge Koch’s Postulate, the supposed means by which the germ theory is validated. See the recent work by Dr. Thomas Cowan and Sally Falon Morel called “The Contagion Myth” for more information.)
There is simply no proof that germs cause illness; even Pasteur admitted this on his deathbed. It’s much better to get inspiration from his wrongly-discredited rival, Bechanp, who advocated the terrain theory as the cause of disease, the idea that one’s environment is the major cause of illness. When you think about it, this makes much more sense.
And on that regard the white man did indeed score some points for humanity by advocating for sanitation (indoor plumbing). By cleaning up one’s home environment, Western man helped improve life-expectancy. Furthermore, nutrition also helped in this regard and so, as much as whites are responsible for this improvement, they deserve credit. But vaccines will be proven to be nothing but a disaster: they can do nothing beneficial save the placebo and they often cause terrible side effects which become diseases in themselves. Just look at modern day autism.
Why? Because they are based on completely fraudulent (mostly Jewish, at this point) science: the Germ Theory. Germs are not the cause of illness; they are merely the reflection of disease. They have never actually been proven to cause illness, through Koch’s Postulate or any other means. Something else—perhaps not something we can measure through the five senses—is the cause, something which we hitherto have yet to prove.
What nonsense are you talking about? The germ theory of disease is the currently accepted scientific theory for many diseases. It states that microorganisms known as pathogens or “germs” can cause disease.
Because of such nonsense, we are not taken seriously!
Who wants to be accepted by the mainstream? Only birdbrains who buy into the current system.
The reason why this website is so appealing is because it is playing the long game. That means it is standing for something more than money-power (dollars in this case) in the current system. The later is the suckers’ game, the Jew game, that everyone (Democrats and Republicans) who wants credibility in the current environment must play. The real game is only about power.
Germ theory won out because it plays right into this money game. If germs really cause disease, then you can categorize them so as to find a cure for each germ. Think about how much money can be made if you can identify germs that cause illness and then produce patentable cures for them. Forget about whether the microbes actually cause illness; there’s too much money to be made!
Nobody in the current system can argue against this, not only because the money is too good, but because it’s everything if you want to win. Indeed the dollar signs (or Franc notes) were probably too convincing for Pasteur to pass up himself.
But life is (or at least should be) more than about money. Otherwise we should all just convert to Judaism or just wait until the “shit house goes up in flames.”
Down with Einstein! Can we bring back the World-Ice Theory?
@ Sesto
I agree with some of your points about medical industry fraud, and I don’t think that vaccination is the panacea it is often presented as.
I got the WuFlu vax twice, plus at least one booster, but I was absolutely livid that my place of employment came to the conclusion without any input from me that vax status would be a condition of employment. A younger me would have been Fed-posting fiercely.
However, there really is a lot of crackpottery going on with the anti-Vaxxer camp. There is no doubt that vaccinations against smallpox and polio were hugely beneficial and have eradicated (or nearly so) such diseases. Some edgy podcasters or commenters think polio was a good thing. I don’t remember it but my parents do. I am not a believer in over-vaccination, but some things are more essential to vaccinate against than others ─ smallpox and polio being high on my list.
I nearly died as an infant from severe case(s) of highly-contagious “Hard” measles, which often rendered a child disabled if the fever brought them close to death and they actually survived.
My grandmother was a registered nurse at a big Catholic hospital in Salt Lake City where I was born, and she knew exactly what to do. Over a long-distance telephone call she told my parents to douse me with cold water and then rush me to the local “hospital,” which was barely a small-town clinic.
Today that building is some quaint office space and it is hard to believe that it was a modern hospital built in the 1930s where hundreds of children were ultimately born, such as my sister sixty years ago. I had not yet had my first birthday but I still remember the white-gowned hospital staff dunking me in the ice-water bath. My Dad says I was convulsing and he thought for sure I was going to die before they could get me there.
Anyway, most medical staff at that time did not believe that a person could contract measles more than once, and this was before there was a vaccine for it.
I also remember getting childhood chickenpox with the rest of the neighborhood kids. I am not sure about getting the shingles vaccine today, however. I am probably biased considerably by how the Covid pandemic was handled. Most primary care providers are highly recommending the shingles vaccination for my age demographic, however.
I am going to have to strongly disagree that vaccines cause autism. This has been studied to death and not proved.
Just because we don’t know everything about a disease does not mean that Hollywood celebrities like Jenny McCarthy can be substituted for those competent in germ theory and virology.
I am not a huge fan of Dr. Anthony Fauci ─ but that mostly comes from his golden boy AIDS work in the early 1980s. Even if there were not HIV tests or good antivirals available yet, the American blood bank should have been forced to entirely ban male homosexuals, Haitians, and anyone who had ever had Hep-B from donating in 1981. That would have nipped the “Gay Men’s Health Crisis” in the bud, which then infected everybody else until AIDS became a cause célèbre with the death of Rock Hudson in 1985.
Ronald Reagan is accused by activists of withholding funding for an AIDS vaccine when HIV had barely been postulated. In reality, this claim is false and irrelevant and the President should have issued an executive order regarding the integrity of the blood banks. When Fauci’s people were studying HIV intently, the Red Cross was going to BYU with as little fanfare as possible to get blood donations from straight White kids who were sworn as a condition of their University admission to be either abstinent if single or monogamous with their spouse.
Finally, I’m no expert but from a quick Google, I think Pasteur is being misquoted by anti-Vaxxers.
Also, Koch’s Postulates are as obsolete as the Niels Bohr atomic model (1913), which is still being taught in High Schools because it remains an extremely-useful model to learn.
Science is not a hidebound canon of dogma placed onto a dusty shelf that must be obeyed ─ but instead an organic method of endless revision. Most ordinary people have trouble understanding this. Bohr’s atomic model is not necessarily wrong but highly simplistic. I don’t think any college Freshman survey class on Chemistry or Physics would fail to mention this.
One of my complaints is the way that Science is “taught” nowadays with all kinds of sparks and whistles and bells ─ and analog special effects in the case of the recent IMAX film about Oppenheimer by Christopher Nolan which contains absolutely zero science.
Well, there was one “sciencey” part of the three-hour movie that got great traction. It was a dumb joke that Einstein cracked in the 1930s, when they were going through the mathematical models of how thermonuclear solar reactions worked ─ a joke about his fellow Jewish Physicists igniting the atmosphere and ending the world.
I found it utterly appalling that people like General Groves were portrayed as taking seriously an old joke like this ─ being that the thermonuclear fusion of nitrogen that might occur in a supernova (but not even in our own sun) might get away from the laboratory somehow.
Scientific hubris is supposed to be an old theme, from Frankenstein to Jurassic Park. But to make a Modern Prometheus argument, they usually have to discard the actual science.
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Wow, it’s amazing you survived that bout with the measles. Incidentally, dousing someone with cold water suffering from a raging fever is exactly the opposite of an effective treatment for the condition.
Whenever someone is having a fever, it’s best to dress him or her up in warm clothes to induce sweating while at the same time keeping the patient properly hydrated. So, it’s remarkable you survived the shock the cold water must have had on your compromised immune system.
In any event I don’t buy for a moment that vaccines cured “polio”. Most likely the so-called “polio” illness subsided thanks to the improvements in nutrition and sanitation I mentioned earlier and then Salk et. al. pulled a rearguard action with their witches brew (“vax”) and declared victory over a “polio virus” that was in no way responsible for the illness.
Either that or others in their camp may have pulled a bait and switch with the entire “polio” illness, reclassifying those suffering similar symptoms after the vax introduction to something like MS, perhaps.
In regards to autism, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has had the courage to publicly document the rise in cases since the late 1980’s, right around the time that vaccine manufactures achieved legal immunity for their intoxicants.
Poor Ronald Reagan. As with immigration and banking, he was an unwitting traitor for conservative causes in regards to vaccines as well and kids are all the sicker today because of it.
Oh, for God’s sake!
Who wants to be accepted by the mainstream?
We want to BE the mainstream, don’t we? This means having our ideas accepted by a critical mass of people. Espousing crank theories is therefore something we should avoid (wanting to save the white race is cranky enough, let’s face it).
You want to be in the mainstream of the shithole nation known as the US of A?
Sigh.
Yes. Now go away.
When I first read the Book of Revelation I was in my freshman year of college. When I was done I didn’t sleep for almost two weeks I was so scared. I have read it and handwritten much of it many times since then, and now it is the only thing that comforts me. It will end, thanks be to God. And what comes after will be glorious.
Really great article, by the way.
The biggest problem facing us few and far between Whites, is the massive overpopulation explosions of Blacks (in Africa — 1.4 billion) and Browns (worldwide at probably about 4 billion, not counting Chinese at 1.3 billion and East Indians at another 1.3 +-), giving us a total of 8 billion worldwide (announced just last November 2022), and approximately only 10% of that mass is White
Now all the bankers and industrialists and other globohomos worldwide are jumping up and down and rubbing their hands in glee at these demographic numbers — “More People, More Money!”
These numbers, straight-away are the biggest problems we face. Good grief, where is Eugenics when we need it?
In 1968, Paul Erlich published “The Population Bomb”, which was promptly buried by all the ‘do-gooders’ everywhere shrieking “Save the Babies!” — and that nonsense is still with us today. Never mind that Erlich never said a word about killing any kids, but just using birth control, which we have since found out is anathema to the Catholics (a ‘Mortal Sin”), and to Moslems as well — and these two groups alone account for one-half of the world’s population, which is still gleefully pumping them out.
So, these are just two of the horrid organized opp0sitions we Whites face — I’m sure you are all aware of the hordes of Brown Catholics streaming over American borders, and Brown and Black Moslems doing same in Europe. Both are being welcomed by the Bankers and Industrialists.
Any ideas?
I wonder if the real holocaust will come when the Chinese decide there are too many Africans.
This reads like crackpot sci-fi from someone with no real life experience. You’re worried about Africans being put into Google cities with ElonMusk chips in their brains? I’m like, what? Huh? You’re talking about people “living in nature”? What? Huh? Where? How is this relevant to 2023, let alone this century, where Land Ownership Is A Thing?
You hope “this ugly, dumb, and shallow civilization will meet its end”, OK, well most people like having internet and mail services and stores with goods and commodities in, so you’re on your own with that.
@ Sesto
I am not a doctor but maybe any readers with medical experience and training can help me out here.
Fevers do fight infections but an elevated temperature that is causing convulsions in a child will cause brain damage or death.
So the high fever needs to be brought down quickly to a more manageable febrile level. Once that is accomplished, the child is swaddled to mitigate the shivering and the temperature closely monitored to keep the fever from getting too high.
In those days “fever reducers” for children like aspirin or even Tylenol were not recommended at all. Even in the 1960s before much (or any) talk of Reyes syndrome, there were a lot of cautions given against giving sick kids aspirin.
Plus, as and adult, I understood exactly what was going on with temperature management when the ICU doctors and nurses put cold packs on my head when I had a high fever from a systemic staph infection during the course of my months in the critical care hospital after being run over by a car while bicycling home from the office.
The ICU staff are willing to swaddle you up to mitigate the shivers until your fever gets too high ─ and then they cool you down whether you like it or not. At some point during the course of the infection they also pulled out the last-ditch antibiotics, which make you sick as a dog and can also cause things like deafness if the toxicity is not watched.
Reinhard Heydrich was only lightly injured by the bomb tossed by partisans at his car in Prague in 1942. But the explosion drove material from the fine horse-hair automobile upholstery he was sitting on into the cuts made in his body cavity. He soon died from a simple staph infection ─ and unlike my case in the ICU, they had no Vancomycin to fight such an infection in 1942.
MRSA or methicillin-resistant staph infections acquired in the hospital were all over the news when I was a patient in a top teaching trauma hospital in Scottsdale. I think many hospital staff nationwide had become remiss about the importance of preventing infections (caused by germs) in part because of the magic-bullet treatments that became available after World War II.
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Staphylococcus aureus was universally sensitive to penicillin in the mid 1940s but the British discovery was being industrialised in the US and the Germans had no access. Due to selective pressure a variant which produced an enzyme called beta-lactamase arose which was able to deactivate penicillin. Methicillin, a beta-lactamase resistant synthetic variant of penicillin defeated this bacterial defence mechanism for a time…until the emergence of methicillin resistance.
By the way, all of this is ample evidence of the utter inanity of Sesto’s contention that infectious diseases don’t exist. Prior to modern hygiene, surgical methods and antibiotics MOST PEOPLE died of bacterial disease whether in early childhood or with seemingly innocuous injuries. Assuming he is not a troll, Sesto’s dilemma is perhaps understandable: once ‘the science’ has proven so unreliable, at what point do you begin to trust it again?
Very interesting, thanks. 🙂
Hi Scott,
I appreciate the discussion.
Perhaps what we’re debating here is the difference between allopathic and homeopathic medicine. Admittedly, allopathic medicine, such as the shock treatments you describe to reduce fevers, are effective—at least in the short-term (much like chemotherapy is effective in halting cancer, temporarily). However, in the long run, this type of medicine is counterproductive because the solutions are crude and cause problems of their own, sometimes severe.
It can legitimately be claimed that hundreds of thousands or even millions of Americans have either died or been maimed due to corona vaccines over the past two years. However, most mass media does its best to cover this up by labeling the increase in death and disability witnessed over the past two years as being a mystery or inventing new, ridiculous syndromes to describe, for example, the phenomenon of young athletes who have collapsed with heart attacks.
A lone wolf, Ed Dowd, seems to have done good work on this topic. I’d like to read his book, Cause Unknown, but haven’t had a chance yet.
In terms of antibiotics, I’m not against their use—at least in emergency situations. Clearly, they lose effectiveness when over-prescribed and generate super-resistant “pathogens” in hospitals, gumming up an already stale and lifeless environment, making it that much harder for patients to recover.
One could make the argument that the trauma of a stab wound, the disruption to the system, loss of blood, etc., is itself worse than any “microbes” that happen to enter the body after the event. However, this is not to say I’m against the use of antiseptics such as hydrogen peroxide to treat cuts. Again, so long as these allopathic remedies are not overused and the focus remains on good nutrition to stave off illness.
Sesto wrote:
“I appreciate the discussion.”
I do too. Thanks.
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Very few would deny the benefits of good nutrition, sunlight and exercise for health but ‘allopathic’ ( aka scientific ) medicine is based on the greatest collaborative intellectual and industrial effort ever undertaken by the human race. Whilst making overall progress it has on many occasions taken significant missteps in the journey to optimal disease management. Personally I am of the opinion that there was systematic falsification and obfuscation of many elements of the recent pandemic. This was all the more effective because the populace is used to scientific medicine working and couldn’t countenance the ‘Big Lie’.
‘Allopathic’ medicine works, improving the odds of a good outcome, but depending on the treatment many may certainly suffer unwanted effects. That’s why the innoculation of people under forty in the recent human rights violations was so unconscionable. Those people only stood to lose from the treatment with unknown and unknowable medium and long-term adverse effects
Homeopathic medicine is a form of shamanistic snake oil salesmanship. It may be useful for symptoms which have been proven to have no serious underlying cause, by utilising the suggestibility of the human mind to obtaim a placebo effect. Given the administered potion should contain no active ingredient unwanted effects ought to be minimal but significant benefit, other than in the highly suggestible ( probably not readers of this site ) is very unlikely.
It’s true that there are some interesting plans for a future worldwide digital opium den in the works, also known as the “metaverse”. (Check out the last WEF conference for that.) Still, technowankery like this might correct itself naturally. One big solar flare could throw a monkeywrench into the gears. Any barber who can’t cut hair without a 5G tower will have to figure out how that worked in the ’80s.
The final nail in humanity’s coffin, and the reason why the cycle won’t continue with rebirth and reformation
Then why are you (or any of us) here, participating on this website in one form or another? If you truly believe what you are writing in this article, there is no reason to do any of this other than to document the decline and fall (documentation which, of course, will disappear with right along with civilization). Sorry, I’m not buying it.
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