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Lucas Gage
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Angelo Gage was a minor Alt Right b-lister when he was with Identity Evropa. He then left activism for a few years, but recently returned under a new name: Lucas Gage. He has become one of the dissident Right’s many overnight success stories through Elon Musk’s Twitter/X. He grew from 50,000 followers to over 200,000 in a matter of months and has established his account as one of the large anti-Zionist accounts, and possibly the biggest explicitly Right-wing anti-Zionist account (many have accused Jackson Hinkle of being a crypto-Right-winger).
But last month, Lucas Gage was suspended for three months by Twitter/X.
The official explanation for the suspension from Elon Musk himself is that it came as a result of a video wherein Gage appeared to advocate for the killing of Jews. In this video he said the following in a very aggressive, Alex Jonesian manner:
Every time I try to have a peaceful conversation, I know exactly where they’re going. It’s out of context, that’s not the real Torah, we don’t follow the Talmud, and then they go to the Talmud later. It’s all lies. These people are fucking Satanic! They are Satanic! They are demons! You don’t treat demons with respect. “I actually disagree, sir. Excuse me sir, I disagree.” You fucking slay them! You slay demons! That’s it! Fucking capture a demon and bring them home and feed them? What are you doing? You destroy them where they stand. The only way you should be treating a Zionist is with utter contempt and disgust. You shame them, you call them out. You show them what they are. “Look at this fucking monster laughing at babies. Look at this one supporting genocide. Look at this one making excuses for this. Look at this one lie about that.” That’s all you do.
Lucas Gage explained in his non-edited video statement what he meant by “slay demons.” He was referring to how to handle *debating* zionists–which aren’t necessarily jewish.
“You shame them, you call them out, you show people what they are. THAT’S ALL YOU DO.”
cc: @elonmusk… pic.twitter.com/GhCxkdpc7t
— Sam Parker 🇺🇲 (@SamParkerSenate) December 29, 2023
Gage’s defenders claim that the ban is totally unjustified on the grounds that the Zionists have deceptively taken Gage’s words out of context, saying that it is clear that Gage meant “slay” and “destroy where they stand” as metaphors in order to shame them, call them out, and show them who they are. They further claim that Twitter/X was just looking for any flimsy old reason to ban Gage because of he is so effective at criticizing Israel. In other words, Elon Musk caved in to the Zionists.
I have a hard time being sympathizing in this case, however. If it is true that Twitter/X was simply looking for any excuse to ban Gage, he was foolish to give them that excuse. I’m sorry but if you are ever in a situation where you must argue that “I meant killing people metaphorically,” you messed up. “They took me out of context” is not a defense. Deceptive editing and taking people out of context is what Zionists do. If you are going to play the dissident game, you have to think two steps ahead of the enemy and always be thinking, “How could what I’m about to say possibly be used against me?” At best, what Gage said was poorly worded. If he had said, “You shame them. You call them out. You show them what they are. You slay them!”, it would have been clearer that he meant “slay” as a metaphor.
To be fair, it’s easy for me to say this because I’m a writer. I have all the time in the world to think about what I am going to say before I say it. Livestreaming involves a lot of improvisation, because you can’t have dead air. Livestreamers have to keep their groove going and let their creative juices flow. Anyone who livestreams for a living eventually slips up and says something that he might not have said, or said better, if he had more time to think about it.
Over the last year, Nick Fuentes had some even more audacious flirtations with violent rhetoric — and they were from a prepared script. Last July, Fuentes held a rally during which he said:
We’re in a holy war. And I will tell you this: Because we’re willing to die in the holy war, we will make them die in the holy war.
This was not adlibbing at 3 AM. This was from a script that he had written in advance and had time to think about. Fuentes’ defense was that he had intended “make them die” metaphorically, which doesn’t even make sense when placed in context. Are his supporters only willing to die metaphorically?
Regardless of what the truth was, it is hard for people to give Fuentes the benefit of the doubt when he repeated the same mistake yet again. Fuentes made headlines again in December for a livestream in which he said that he would impose the death penalty upon the enemies of Christ after America First takes over. If I were a betting man, I would bet against Fuentes ever getting his old account back. If Musk was willing to suspend Gage for three months, I don’t think he will gamble on Fuentes if he thinks there is even a chance that he’d start talking about executing people after he takes charge.
The distressing thing about this is that these are rookie mistakes, and neither Gage nor Fuentes are rookies. They know not to do this. You can be as racist as you like and you might get banned from every platform on Earth, but you won’t end up in jail. But talking about violence, or even anything that could possibly be construed as advocating for violence, will cause the cops to show up at your door.
I support Elon Musk in taking a hardline approach on this matter because if someone shoots up a synagogue and it turns out that he has Nick Fuentes or Lucas Gage anywhere in his Internet history, it would be bad for everyone — not only the perpetrator, but for Musk and the dissident Right. The mainstream media would keep reminding people of it for all eternity, and advertisers would start pulling money out.
Additionally, Lucas Gage was doing a lot more than criticizing Israel. He was also discussing Holocaust revisionism and venturing into “the Nazis were really the good guys in the Second World War” territory. Some may say that this should be allowed on the grounds of free speech, but they need to accept some truths like grownups. They are:
- Twitter/X will never represent “free speech” in the truest sense of the word. By this I mean that, however much free speech we get under Elon Musk, it will fall short of what the First Amendment guarantees. This may be due to practical considerations, or it might be that Elon doesn’t want free speech in the purest sense of the word.
- At best, free speech on Twitter/X is going to be a long-term project. It may take time for Elon to gain a certain level of security before opening up the platform to more free speech. It’s possible that the platform may never get freer than it is now.
- Elon Twitter might fail. Elon himself floated this possibility a few weeks ago when an interviewer asked him what will happen if Twitter/X fails due to his commitment to free speech and Musk replied simply that everyone would see who had been responsible for it. He didn’t say, “I’ll make sure X takes off if it’s the last thing I do!” He also did not rule out the possibility that Twitter/X might fail. I imagine he probably believed that reinstating free speech on Twitter would be a lot easier than it turned out to be. He may very well decide that it is more trouble than it is worth, especially given that his primary interest is in making rockets.
- If Elon Twitter fails, we will be in big trouble. We will not get another chance like this, because if the richest man in the world couldn’t do it, who is going to even try after that? This is our one and only shot.
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We are at a pivotal time in history, and after our recent successes, the dissident Right is now at risk of falling prey to the same kind of hubris that afflicted the Alt Right in the afterglow of the 2016 election, when we all felt invincible.
Instead of complaining about the lack of free speech, we should be following Elon’s lead. He drops hints about what is permissible to talk about on X. When Elon named the Jew, that tacitly gave permission to many to start walking about the Jewish question. He has likewise commented positively on a post dealing with white replacement, so we know that he’s cool with that as well. Now is not the time to push boundaries but to be consolidating gains.
That said, in the weeks since Gage’s suspension it seems that every few days I’ve been hearing about some new anti-Zionist who has been suspended. I don’t know what these people were doing before they got suspended, however, which is impossible once they are banned. Their defenders always say that it was because they were being critical of Israel, but I can’t confirm this myself.
Several accounts got suspended on Tuesday of this week, and I finally saw one that I’d heard of: TrueAnon. TrueAnon was run by an anti-Zionist Jew, Bruce Beldon, who is a Dirtbag Left A-lister that runs in the same circles as Chapo Trap House. This surprised me, because Beldon isn’t Right-wing at all, although he is known as an edgelord (by Leftist standards, at any rate), and he has tweeted spicy things about Israel, such as joking about Israelis being pedophiles.
It’s also worth noting that TrueAnon is arguably a ban evasion account. Beldon’s personal account was banned, and TrueAnon was his podcast’s account. It would be odd for Beldon to have been banned for that reason, however, considering that Elon is tolerating the ban evasion accounts of far more infamous people.
It looks as if something may in fact be underway at Twitter. Is this a rollback of free speech? Is Elon making examples out of some people to prove to Shlomo that Twitter is not a complete free-for-all? Whatever the case may be, for now the dissident Right should concern itself with not giving Elon Musk any more headaches as he tries to steady his ship.
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9 comments
Being salesy, serious, articulate and sticking to the truth is best in the long run. It is also important that the message is based on love. Angry and hateful statements about violence are unlikely to attract many people. What you do is shout “come hate with me” into the webcam. Most people are not even aware of many of the movement’s messages. They won’t listen. If they hear you, they will resent you.
Elon Musk was denied entry to the Berghain nightclub in Berlin. Berghain is described as the best techno club in the world. I was in Berlin at the time and I remember how shocked North and South Americans were that the richest man in the world was denied entry. Germans and other Europeans did not find it as strange that he was denied entry. The European perspective was that it is difficult for everyone to get into Berghain so it shouldn’t be different for Musk. They also saw that Berghain could gain reputation by denying Musk. My perception is that money has replaced other values to a greater extent in America than in Europe. Money poisons us.
When Elon Musk and everyone else here is dead and Twitter is gone, there will still be Europeans and the struggle will continue. The dream does not depend on Musk’s success. It is good that he is where he is. But before Musk, someone else was the richest man in the world and couldn’t help us. Money can only do so much. This is spiritual. The movement needs thumos rather than doom and despair.
The reaction of Arabs, Eastern Europeans and Turks to Musk being denied entry to Berghain was something like “who cares. Whoever goes to Berghain disgraces himself”. This honours them.
You don’t treat people who believe in demons with respect.
Fixed it.
Not sure how or why so many of these DR types got manipulated into acting like it’s an Exorcist marathon at some theater in Harlem as they all shriek, “Lookie there! The debbil is behind y’all!!!” at the screen, but holy fuck is it embarrassing.
And of course this Gage clown poses for selfies chomping on a “masculine, right-wing” phallic cigar.
That may be in your case, but surely you must realize that a) some of us are Christians, b) some of us are Christians that believe in the unseen world (i.e., not moral therapeutic deists or mainline protestants), and c) accordingly ascribe a lot of the ills in our world, including our primary enemies, to that influence from that world. It might embarrass you, but it sounds like the truth to me.
Anyway, in response to the article, no mainstream platform will ever be free of this type of censorship and it is the definition of insanity to expect otherwise.
the unseen world
Isn’t there a substantial difference between saying you’re unable to see something and flat-out declaring someone or something to be a “demon”?
Just admit you can’t see it. Don’t talk about how not only can you see it, you’re going to kill it. That’s beyond dumb.
some of us are Christians
Many of us also play golf. Plenty of us don’t like Mondays. These are entirely different subjects. Same applies to Christianity and race. I’ve been consistent in my opposition to loudly persistent efforts to either fuse the two or to swap out race for Christianity, as people such as E. Michael Jones attempt to do.
Seeing isn’t the point. Demons work through people, and people serve them by doing their bidding. Calling someone or something demonic isn’t about getting people who otherwise wouldn’t believe to believe that some horned, diabolical entity is behind something, but rather pointing out that we all image someone, we are all sons and daughters of someone in the theological as well as the biological sense. Do I believe in literal demons? Yes. Does it matter if you do to see certain groups as participating in the demonic? Not really.
The other point I’ll take well, since I happen to agree with you.
Seeing isn’t the point. Demons work through people, and people serve them by doing their bidding.
To me, the point is that if you can’t see something or measure it, you’re only speculating and may be entirely wrong. It’s astounding how often I have to explain the stark difference between the objective and the subjective. When people wander into the speculative realm is when they’re most prone to making mistakes. Why? You can basically make everything up with no proof.
we are all sons and daughters of someone in the theological as well as the biological sense.
Being someone’s biological son or daughter can be established through a paternity test. Being someone’s “theological” son or daughter cannot. The very existence of any kind of “theological son or daughter” is itself purely speculative.
There are plenty of things I can’t see, explain, or understand. That’s why I don’t speak authoritatively on them. This is insanely basic stuff.
So if you’re going to say, “Demons work through people, and people serve them by doing their bidding,” I’ll say, “Prove it.” If you’d merely said, “That’s what I believe,” I’d say, “Fine.” That’s because I understand the difference between facts and opinions.
Update: Apparently a lot of the recently banned accounts were unbanned including TrueAnon. Maybe someone at Twitter was going rogue with the bannings which have since been undone.
https://twitter.com/ascendingfn/status/1744820011019940290
FINALLY an article on this site I can agree with.
Dump the retarded Nazi shit. I don’t care if you are right. I don’t care if you can shout me down for not being a Nazi. I don’t care.
Just knock it off. Elon is helping Justice and Right. USE IT.
Is canary mission paying you for this garbage? The video debunks your misquote (in fact you used the same deceptive bullshit canary mission did and LEFT OUT THE NEXT LINE)
“You shame them, you call them out, you show people what they are. THAT’S ALL YOU DO.” the very next thing he says after your out of context attempt
Lucas gage’s comments about slaying people in a debate , are nowhere near as openly “fed posty” as tons of jews on twitter, who have openly called for mass murdering children, and faced ZERO CONSEQUENCES. Doxxer “stopantisemitism” has doxxed 100s of people for simply not liking mass murdering jewish psychopaths, and you’re sitting here agreeing with this double standard, making up some bullshit that a school shooter could be linked to elon over this.. absolutely pathetic hit piece. Even if you think misquoting Lucas made a good case for his suspension, then you would be far more mad about kikess laura loomer, and tons of other jews getting away with open calls for genocide on twitter without so much as a 1 hr temp suspension. However, your article clearly makes no such attempt and doesn’t even mention this double standard, pretends anyone getting mad on our side is the problem, when it’s that beta male complacency that has gotten us here to begin with. Lucas never made a single call for violence, you’re a retarded idiot to suggest he did and even used the exact same propaganda quote canary mission did.
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