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Thoughts on McGregor versus Nurmagomedov

Khabib Nurmagomedov (left) and Conor McGregor

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“It´s just business.”
–Conor McGregor

“We have defended our honor. That is all that matters.”
–Khabib Nurmagomedov

Conor “the Notorious” McGregor made his professional boxing debut in 2017 against the undefeated Floyd “Money” Mayweather. Like many others, I watched the fight on Pay Per View and hoped that Conor would emerge victorious from the bout. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of fighting knew, of course, that he would not. Conor is a very skilled striker from a Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) point of view. But a skilled striker cannot compare to a skilled boxer, and to the surprise of no one knowledgeable, Floyd emerged victorious by Technical Knock Out in the tenth round.

The reason that I and many people that I know – and certainly many White Nationalists – rooted for Conor is that he rose to prominence as a white man in a sport where black people have been dominant for long periods of time. It is sometimes said that Elvis Presley was celebrated by the music industry because he was a white man who could perform rock-n-roll like a black man. Similarly, Conor is a white man who can punch like a black man. Floyd Mayweather also struck me as a despicable creature: obsessed with money, owning strip clubs, and simply being an extraordinarily boring fighter. It would have been nice to see Conor knock him down.

But really, was Conor any better? The answer is no. Conor is certainly entertaining to watch. He is one of the finest strikers in the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC). When he first emerged, he certainly seemed like a starving wolf, hungry for fame and glory, willing to do whatever it took to succeed in the MMA league, in which champions become contenders and contenders become champions, as the saying goes. It added to his story that he came from a humble background: from the Irish working class. He worked as a plumber during his youth, and he and his family relied on the support of the welfare system prior to his MMA career taking off.

It could have been a beautiful story of how a man from a poor background worked hard and with determination to become the champion of his nation. Whenever Conor enters an arena, he always flies the Irish colors, and he always accepts his victories while wrapped in the Irish flag. This patriotism is an honorable trait. But unfortunately, the workings of modernity got in the way.

When I write “workings of modernity,” I mean a specific tendency, perhaps even a moral imperative, that exists today, which holds that the truest measure of success is making tons of money. It proves the old saying that the worker should be considered a capitalist who is temporarily prevented from owning capital.

In this view, forget things like honor and glory, or even something as basic as having the slightest bit of dignity. The thing that matters is having money, and lots of it. This, it seems to me, is the morality of the upcomer – perhaps not in all cases, but in all too many of them. As soon as an upcomer enjoys a little success, he says goodbye to virtue. On a superficial level, the bout between Conor and Mayweather was fought between a white and a black, and was about whether one from the underdog group could challenge someone from the dominant group on his own terrain. But like Martin Heidegger said of the United States and the Soviet Union, they are both based on materialism, whatever else can be said about their differences. The same goes for Conor and Mayweather. Although to be fair, Conor brags more about money than a guy who has “money” as his middle name.

There was a more recent bout, however – one that was far more heated and with much more at stake – that Conor was involved in. I’m referring, of course, to the notorious fight between Conor and Khabib “the Eagle” Nurmagomedov on October 6. Khabib, the lightweight champion of the UFC, defended his recently-won belt against Conor, who once had it but lost it due to inactivity. I do MMA myself, as well as being a fan of the sport, and whatever can be said of the fight from a more theoretical point of view, it was interesting purely as a sports event.

It was the classic setup of the striker versus the grappler. When a striker and a grappler are pitted against each other, the victory usually goes to the latter. So even though Conor, once again, would have had a hard time in defeating the expert grappler Khabib, I still cheered for him. After all, Conor is one of my own – a white man – and Khabib is not. But much more was going on this time than when Conor fought Mayweather. That fight was between two materialists. To such people, it’s all just a game, and just business. They don’t care about the trash talk; it’s just part of selling the fight to an audience who loves it.

One of the reasons why Conor has become so popular is not just his entertaining style in the octagon – it’s his trash talk. Most fighters accept this as part of the game; they don’t take it personally and they don’t care about it. Some, like Mayweather, surely see it as strictly business, and even as a good thing since it helps to sell the fight. They are all part of the game of modernity, and in this game, honor is an anachronism. But this time around, the funny thing was that Khabib wasn’t interested in playing the game. When he and Conor met, things got real. It was not a money fight for Khabib, it was a question of him basically wanting to kill Conor for his various slights and insults against him.

It was widely reported that in April, Conor attacked a bus in New York City that Khabib, as well as several other UFC fighters, was travelling in, throwing a trash can and a dolley at it and breaking some of the windows, injuring fighters Michael Chiesa and Ray Borg. Many others could have been injured as well, of course. The reason was that McGregor’s teammate, the Russian fighter Artem Lobov, had earlier had a confrontation with Khabib and his crew. One must admire Conor’s loyalty to his friend, but it would have sufficed to take it up with Khabib personally rather than by attacking completely innocent bystanders. But this is how the McGregor-Nurmagomedov conflict began in the first place.

After the bus incident, Khabib challenged Conor to fight him, and thus we saw the origin of what some have called “the greatest MMA fight of all time.” The sports site MMA Junkie soon reported that Conor had insulted Khabib’s father as well, calling him “a quivering coward” on Instagram. But the climax of Conor’s trash-talking occurred at the UFC 230 press conference. He threw so many insults that there were too many to recount, but in his tirade he did manage to insult Khabib several times by calling him a coward, among other things, as well as attacking his country (Dagestan), his faith (Islam), and his family – basically all the things that any real man should consider holy and beyond the limits of mockery. Throughout Conor’s tirade, Khabib remained stoic.

MMA lacks the more spiritual traditions of those martial arts which are traditionally practiced in the Far East. But from my own experience, I know that respect for your opponent, your comrades, and your trainer are vital if you happen to find yourself in a good fight club. In the UFC, however, things are quite different. As I mentioned earlier, trash talk is an accepted business strategy to sell fights and make them more interesting for the public, which is one of the reasons why Conor McGregor is exalted in the eyes of the UFC’s President, Dana White.

Another thing that bothered me about the press conference was that Conor used it to advertise his own brand of whiskey, Proper. He came across as a cheap merchant rather than as one of the best fighters of his generation.

I’ve taken a critical stance towards Conor in this essay, but I’ve never doubted his bravery in the cage. He went up two weight classes to fight Nate Diaz – a fight he lost. Then he did the same thing again, only to emerge victorious in the second bout. And it cannot be denied that it was brave – or perhaps just foolish – to walk into the cage against Khabib, a man who remains undefeated and who viciously plays with his opponents like a cat with mice, most especially given the insults he had hurled at him.

Sadly, for Conor, he had the worst fight of his UFC career – perhaps ever. Not only was he beaten on the ground, which was to be expected, but he was also outboxed by a fighter who is not known for his striking. Khabib got tired of playing with him in the fourth round and made him tap with a so-called neck-crank, giving Conor the new nickname “McTapper.” Where was the hungry wolf? Where was the tattooed Irish warrior, who seemed to be born for nothing else but fighting? That Conor was destroyed by money and his own success, no doubt. He seemed to be more concerned with selling whiskey and spending the money on watches, cars, clothes, and other lavish things, even while fighting in the cage. Sad, to quote President Trump.

Despite all of this, I rooted for Conor for the reason I stated earlier: he is one of my own, after all. In the aftermath of the fight, I could not help but think of a book by Julius Evola I had read and reviewed a few years back: A Traditionalist Confronts Fascism. One of the things I took to heart from it was his view that race alone is not enough: An individual needs to aspire for something higher, and not drown in the swamp of modern life. A white man, of however good stock he may be, is still only a lump of meat if he doesn’t strive for the higher aspects of existence.

For people on the Right, this can become a contradiction, because there is a natural egalitarianism that results from nationalism, given that it implies a sort of “my people, right or wrong” attitude. We take the side of our own, even if they happen to be wrong. We also recognize our own kind as being our own, regardless of their merits or character. But in practice, nationalists are often influenced by various elitist strands, be they modernist or Traditionalist, in which it is not enough merely to be part of a particular race. The individual, too, has a duty and an obligation to stand up for the values of dignity, honor, honesty, and loyalty. The individual should strive to transcend the baseness of modern life, such as by overcoming its notion that material wealth is the highest good that one can achieve in life. Greed must be rejected in favor of spirit.

Conor does the exact opposite of all this. He has completely embraced the materialist values of modern life. He thinks that insulting someone’s nation, faith, and family is “just business.” This is literally true, by the way, because when the audio of the fight was released, we could hear Khabib repeatedly saying “let’s talk” to Conor, referring to the fact that Conor did most of the talking prior to the fight. To which Conor responded, “It’s just business.” This is how a merchant, not a warrior, speaks to an opponent.

The aftermath of the fight is well-known: Khabib attacked Conor’s disgusting teammate, Dillon Dannis. I don’t really care much who started it or who did what in the situation. But I respect Khabib for what he said afterwards, when his teammate was threatened by the UFC with suspension and the withholding of his money for punching McGregor. Khabib said that if they fired his friend, then they should break his own contract, too, and keep the money. I’m sure that Khabib has some less favorable character traits as well, but in this case, he came across as a man of spirit who chose honor over money and commercial success.

Nevertheless, I don’t want to cheer for a non-white in favor of a white, regardless of his character and merits. I want to root for one of my own. But I don’t feel very comfortable in having to choose between an honorable non-white and a dishonorable white who disgraces his people by sinking from a warrior to a salesman who will do anything if the price is right.

But let’s not end on a negative note. Watch Joe Rogan’s interview with Tyson “the Gypsy King” Fury on Rogan’s podcast. It’s the tale of a great fighter who has hit bottom, then risen again and realized what is most important in life. And it’s not making as much money as possible.

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  1. HungarianFashionista
    Posted November 20, 2018 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    I don’t want to cheer for a non-white in favor of a white

    So Avars are no longer white? Since when? There are lots of people in Eastern Europe who look exactly like Nurmagomedov and his family. Will you throw out half of Hungary and a quarter of Poland too?

    Or is it the religion that disqualifies them? It’s probably quite superficial, these are old-fashioned tribal cultures. They are the closest thing we have today to the old Indo-European world. We have to convert them back to our fold.

    (Not that I would want to live with them in the same state. In fact, all of them who are here in my country should be kicked out and sent back to Dagestan.)

    In my book this was a fight between whites who belong to two distant branches of the white race. The “non-white” had admirable qualities precisely because he is still white, both genetically and culturally.

    • nineofclubs
      Posted November 20, 2018 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

      ‘For people on the Right, this can become a contradiction, because there is a natural egalitarianism that results from nationalism..’

      ‘..nationalists are often influenced by various elitist strands..’

      For nationalists there need not be any contradiction. Those who identify with the Right often talk up hierarchy, greatness, achievement and elitism as positive things. And so they can be. It’s the context that matters, I think.

      Those who achieve greatness for their nations – who serve a purpose higher than getting rich – should be honoured. They deserve to be regarded more highly than those who simply drift along. I don’t think this is necessarily an exclusively Right wing idea either. The former Soviet Union had a system of awards and decorations designed to honour those who had achieved greatness in one form or another. It’s recipients covered a broad spectrum – from hero cosmonauts to mothers who’d raised more than ten kids.,_decorations,_and_medals_of_the_Soviet_Union

      This kind of achievement can be compared with those who simply make a big pile of money. Particularly where the making of that money harms others of their tribe/nation such ‘achievement’ – in my opinion – is not praiseworthy.

      Amongst some who identify with the Right, there can arise a confusion of style and substance, I think. Those who act outside of social norms to achieve, are seen as virtuous regardless of the substance of their achievement – and its effect on others. Think Howard Roark or Walter White. Interesting characters, sure. But role models?


    • Gnome Chompsky
      Posted November 21, 2018 at 6:47 am | Permalink

      I agree with your comment to a point, where that point is Islime.

  2. Bob Taylor
    Posted November 20, 2018 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    What are you talking about “McGregor rose to prominence in a sport blacks dominated for so long”? Whites have done quite well in MMA since its inception, or are you referring to boxing? Good piece over all though! The Tyson Fury interview was great by the way.

  3. Bernie
    Posted November 20, 2018 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Great article. Glad to see we have some MMA fans on Counter Currents. But a few points:

    1. McGregor would have completely destroyed Mayweather in a real fight, MMA match or even a kickboxing match. The only fight Mayweather could have won would be a boxing match (which he did indeed win, as expected). And Connor fought well – even bravely – in that fight. Some may read your comments as meaning boxers are inherently better fighters than MMA athletes. The opposite is usually the case as boxers dont train takedowns, submissions, grappling or even kicks.

    2. I share your disdain for the trash talking of McGregor. Chael Sonnen is even worse as he loses half the time. Connor usually wins and people who are not MMA fans should know he is an elite level fighter who is one of only 5 fighters to hold two belts in different weight classes in the UFC.

    3. I actually thought McGregor showed lots of heart in the fight with Nurmagomedov. He came back and won the 3rd round and never gave up even after taking a beating for two rounds. He wants a rematch but – as you mentioned – it is very hard for a striker (even a great striker like Connor) to defeat a top-level wrestler.

    4. A friend of mine who used to wrestle and did some MMA likes the trend of white trash talkers. He says they learned it from blacks and it helps white kids to show a white man who fights back – verbally and physically – against blacks. I disagree, but there is that view among some. I much prefer the stoicism of Fedor Emelianenko, the professionalism of Georges St. Pierre and even the blue-collar “I’ll fight anyone” approach of Frankie Edgar.

    5. Nurmagomedov is racially white. He is a Muslim, so like you, I cannot cheer for him. But him beating McGregor was not as bad as if a black fighter would have beaten Connor.

  4. Gnome Chompsky
    Posted November 21, 2018 at 6:40 am | Permalink

    It was an interesting article.

    I watched the ‘Money’ Mayweather fight with a former boxing champ, I was, of course, hoping to see McGregor land the killer punch.

    From the fourth or fifth round, my friend just kept repeating ‘McGregor is going to lose, because MMA fights are so much shorter’ and ‘MMA is not boxing, so the possible advantage of McGregor does not exist, since he can’t use MMA techniques’, although my friend put it in more gutter terms.

    His commentary was a little ironic to me, as his greatest claim to fame is still holding a record for most first round K.O.s in his time as a champ where he was fighting, hardly requiring endurance.

    Still, he knows the game well, and he was correct.

    It seems to me that, as implied in the article, McGregor lacked fighting spirit in any case, he was just pleased to give in and get the money (a huge amount to most of us).

    As for his fight with the Dagestani, i agree with the comnmentors above, but will add that Muslimes have a particularly bad mentality, they will beat one up as a group on a false claim (‘you were going out with my sister’, ‘I have never met your sister’, I have experienced it as have friends), they just trumpet the bullshit to make themselves feel righteous in crappy actions.

    Zennadine Zidane’s (ludicrousiy called ‘French’, no he is not, he is North African) vicious headbutt of an Italian player who had lightly insulted him was presented as a justifiable act.

    It was the typical act of a Moslem.

  5. Leif
    Posted November 21, 2018 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Interesting topic on mma.

    The devout and spiritual muslim versus the out of control materialist westerner.

    I do not buy that.

    – Mcgregor never insulted Dagestan or islam. He cleverly poked at Khabibs double identity and questioned his loyalty to team mates & country.

    – We know very little about Khabibs life and lifestyle.

    – Khabibs manager Ali Aziz is a former islamist og quasi-terrorist aid.

    – Khabibs manager Ali A. is a materialist that flashes his wealth a la what one can see everywhere in muslim places like Dubai.

    – Assuming Khabib also had Pay per view points like most of the champions, he profitted HUGELY from Mcgregor’s hypetalk.

    – most muslims can not privately maintain the lifestyle islam professes, even the publicly “devout” ones.

    – Mcgregor is somewhat right wing and is raising a family with two children in his own country.

  6. Peter Quint
    Posted November 21, 2018 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    On another note, Sylvester Stallone has made another black boxing film. It seems that when white actors get old they invariably become race traitors.

  7. Peter Quint
    Posted November 21, 2018 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Conor McGregor is coming towards the end of his MMA career, he will be beaten more often in the future.

  8. John McKenna
    Posted November 21, 2018 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Conor McGregor is a character that anyone growing up in the vicinity of suburban Dublin will know. Those of us on the rural side of things such as myself or from the more well to do parts of south Dublin will know. We refer to them as scumbags. They are generally pitiful, violent creatures. Completely unreformed and crass. Their taste is vulgar and base. They worship hip hop culture and adopt the worst of British chav culture but with an Irish twist. Conor only stands out because of his determination and natural fighting skills but his personality is nothing unique. If it weren’t for his sporting prowess he’s someone you’d cross the street to avoid. See a scumbag strutting around on the world stage is amusing at times but he is not someone to uphold as a role model for white people.

    • Jimmy Carter
      Posted November 21, 2018 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

      Do any of those “scumbags” have a wife as good looking as Conor’s? I think we have to back as far as 1977 and the Jimmy Connors-Patti McGuire match to find a better looking sports couple.

      • John McKenna
        Posted November 22, 2018 at 6:41 am | Permalink

        Maybe, there’s no shortage of women attracted to thugs.

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