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On Whites & Fighting, Part 2:
The White Man Dance

Spencer J. Quinn

Stipe Miocic

2,552 words

Part 1 here

On August 31 of this year, the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) promoted a fight card in Shenzhen, China. Typically, when the UFC takes its business outside of North America, it will employ a number of local fighters and then judiciously pair these fighters to evenly-matched (or maybe slightly overmatched) opponents in order to avoid turning off the home crowd. You’re not going to sell too many tickets in Timbuktu if all the Timbuktutans get knocked out or submitted whenever the UFC comes into town.

They needn’t have worried in China, however. On the whole, the Chinese fighters fared well that evening, and in the main event, women’s strawweight contender Weili Zhang blasted out the Brazilian champion Jessica Andrade in only forty-two seconds. The UFC finally has a Chinese champion.

Weili Zhang KO Jessica Andrade, 0:42 R1, August 2019.

Here’s what UFC President Dana White had to say about it:

And obviously, I say it all the time, when you got somebody that looks like you, talks like you, and comes from where you come from, and they’re one of the baddest in the world, the crowd reacts to it and the fans get behind it. And we saw that last Saturday.

Yes, yes, and yes. This is ethnocentrism at work. It’s inescapable – it’s inevitable, especially in combat sports where a competitor’s race is impossible to ignore and victory and defeat are often paid for in blood and consciousness. When a fighter of your race spills his blood or loses consciousness in defeat, that’s also your blood and your consciousness. When his conqueror is of the same race, that can be a consolation, because all that was lost was kept as well. But if a member of your race falls to an outsider, you can never get that blood back, and that loss of consciousness symbolizes death. It’s a humiliation.

In the first installment of this series, I described the humiliation the men in my family experienced after white boxer Gerry Cooney was stopped in the thirteenth round by black champion Larry Holmes in 1982. That was a big deal back then, as I am sure it’s a big deal now, given that China finally has a world champion in mixed martial arts. It would have been a quiet night in the Shenzhen Universiad Sports Centre had Weili Zhang been the one lying senseless on the canvas after forty-two seconds.

Two weeks earlier, on August 17, 2019, a white man returned that same humiliation to the black man who defeated him in 2018 – and it was glorious. Stipe Miocic is once again the UFC heavyweight champion, and he conclusively (and concussively) beat an all-time great in Daniel Cormier to regain that honor. The fight itself was magnificent for many reasons, but one requires the backstory in order to fully appreciate it.

When Miocic knocked out Fabricio Verdum in the first round for the heavyweight title in May 2016, many thought it might have been a fluke. Miocic was riding a meager two-fight winning streak going into that match and sported a solid, yet hardly-gaudy, record of 14-2. Regardless, he turned the trick twice more with first round KOs of top-ranked opponents in the ensuing year. Miocic was enjoying his time as the “baddest man on the planet,” but few really believed he deserved it, since there was one contender who seemed bound to wrest that distinction from him.

Heavyweight contender Francis Ngannou

Francis Ngannou, originally from Cameroon, is a terrifying individual. Both he and Miocic are 6’ 2” tall, but Ngannou is heavier by twenty-five pounds, younger by four years (31 to Miocic’s 35 at the time) and is a breathtaking physical specimen. He’s also extremely athletic and frighteningly powerful, having wiped out a string of top contenders with scintillating knockouts.

During the build-up to the fight, Miocic was asked if he was intimidated by Ngannou, and he answered, “I guess so” .” Needless to say, the bookies didn’t give the white man much of a chance, with many predicting he would get mauled by this beast of a contender. Yet Miocic proved everyone wrong by boxing rings around his befuddled black challenger and taking him down at will with his superior wrestling. He won every round for a unanimous decision, thoroughly embarrassed Ngannou, and afterwards was being touted as the greatest UFC heavyweight champion of all time. He was the first to defend the belt three times. See the entire fight here.

Stipe Miocic def. Francis Ngannou, UD 5, January 2018.

This all came to a crashing halt in July 2018, when Miocic faced black light heavyweight champion Daniel Cormier, who knocked him out in the first round. The fight had been evenly fought up until a single right hand from Cormier put Miocic’s lights out and ended his reign.

Daniel Cormier KO Stipe Miocic, 4:33 R1, July 2018.

Losing to Cormier was nothing to be ashamed of, though. Cormier was a two-time Olympic heavyweight wrestler and NCAA wrestling runner up at 184 pounds in 2001 (having lost in a competitive match against Olympic gold medalist Cael Sanderson). In MMA he was undefeated at heavyweight, having beaten former champions Josh Barnett and Frank Mir, as well as top contenders such as Antonio “Bigfoot” Silva and Roy “Big Country” Nelson. At light heavy, he was second only to the great Jon Jones.

Race aside, I like Cormier all right and have tremendous respect for him as a fighter. He’s certainly talented and tough. And he’s a good MMA commentator. As a competitor, he’s all class. He’s also a pretty chipper guy, exuberant without being obnoxious, and generally behaves in a way that makes him hard not to like. But there are reasons why he doesn’t have the best look for a heavyweight champion. He’s short (5’ 11”), he’s old (40), and he’s tubby – especially at heavyweight.

Former heavyweight and light heavyweight champion Daniel Cormier.

The rematch between Miocic and Cormier at UFC 241 was a classic reminiscent of both “the Rumble in the Jungle” (Muhammad Ali’s eighth round KO over George Foreman in 1974) and “the Thrilla in Manilla” (Ali’s fourteenth round stoppage of Joe Frazier in 1975). You can see the entire fight here. Like any good story, this one has twists and turns and unbelievable, edge-of-your seat action. Miocic showed up at a career-low 230 pounds and appeared intent on getting his belt back, but as with all of his great fights, he was the underdog coming in.

In the first round, Cormier dominated Miocic, generally beating him to the punch and then rag dolling him once he got his hands on him. Cormier is unparalleled in wrestling at that weight division, and it showed. When he got Miocic down, he kept him down.

Daniel Cormier rag dolling Stipe Miocic, R1.

In the second round and beyond, Cormier inexplicably abandoned his wrestling and decided to wade into Miocic’s wheelhouse and strike with him. Despite being a division I NCAA wrestler himself, Miocic was also a Golden Gloves amateur boxer in his youth and has knockout power in both hands. For Cormier, it was a risk that proved worth taking against light heavyweight challenger Alexander Gustafsson in 2015, but seemed riskier against a heavyweight like Miocic. Nonetheless, Cormier’s strategy paid off in the second round. He struck well with Miocic: employing punches and kicks effectively, and using canny head movement to avoid much of his challenger’s best shots. Still, however, the round was close, with Miocic giving almost as good as he was getting.

The third round was more of the same, except that it became apparent that Cormier’s best punches were doing little more than bouncing off Miocic’s skull. Cormier also was beginning to tire a little more visibly than his challenger, while the two never stopped exchanging accurate and powerful blows. Where before, Cormier had been stalking Miocic, now it was the other way around. Late in the round, Miocic secured his first takedown and made Cormier eat a knee the moment he stood up. It seemed like the challenger was gaining momentum.

I likened the Cormier-Miocic rematch to the Thrilla in Manilla for its grueling, back-and-forth nature. Both fighters really put the hurt on the other and were forced to dig deep just to survive – let alone win. But how was it like the Rumble in the Jungle? Recall that in that fight, Ali began by standing toe-to-toe with the bigger and younger Foreman, and zinging him with right-hand leads. Then, however, he changed tactics and started covering up against ropes, allowing his man to whale away at him. By the eighth round, an exhausted Foreman had punched himself out and was easy pickings for the quicker Ali. This tactic famously became known as the “rope-a-dope.”

In round four, Stipe Miocic employed an equally successful change in tactics: he began digging left hooks to the body. After nearly two minutes of stalking Cormier, he struck his man in the liver, and right away it was clear that Cormier did not like that. Headshots and leg kicks he’d been handling all night, but this was different. The body punishment from Miocic was forcing Cormier to retreat and lower his guard. He lacked either the footwork or the energy to avoid those shots, and – with all due respect to Cormier – his somewhat corpulent physique made him an easy target. As Miocic pointed out later, former middleweight champion Anderson Silva had hurt Cormier to the body in their 2016 battle, so he knew that his man was vulnerable there (although why he waited three and a half rounds to start pummeling Cormier’s ribcage is anyone’s guess). In all, Miocic nailed Cormier to the body about a dozen times, with each blow being dramatically more effective than the previous one. Finally, with about a minute left in the round, Miocic outmaneuvered Cormier with his footwork and drilled him with a powerful right. The referee waved off the fight as Cormier crumbled to the canvas under a barrage from Miocic.

Stipe Miocic TKO Daniel Cormier, 4:09 R4, August 2019.

Then came the white man dance.

Stipe Miocic celebrates after his TKO victory over Daniel Cormier, August 2019.

This struck me as similar to Irish folk dancing, but since Miocic is Croatian and intensely proud of his roots, perhaps they do this kind of dancing in Croatia as well. In either case, it’s a European thing, and the white identitarian in me was delighted to see this kind of celebration. Later, Miocic disavowed the dance, saying he felt “ dumb” for doing it. But I don’t care. This dance was an expression of racial and cultural pride that all people of European descent should be able to relate to – especially in a sport in which whites are not particularly dominant.

At the moment, Stipe Miocic is the sole white American champion in the UFC. The only other Caucasian champ is the amazing Khabib Nurmagomedov at lightweight. Khabib is a Muslim from Dagestan. It may be debatable if he’s white – I think he is – but he’s certainly Caucasian in the strict sense of the term. On September 7, he defended his title against another top-notch white fighter in Dustin Poirier.

Still, whites do not have the greatest presence in MMA at the moment. Yes, the UFC lightweight division is stacked with white guys, and the beautiful Valentina Shevchenko rules the roost in the very white women’s flyweight division.[1]

Women’s flyweight champion Valentina Shevchenko.

But white contenders are getting scarcer and scarcer in just about every division. Superstar Conor McGregor has been MIA from the sport – no doubt enjoying his newfound wealth and getting into trouble, as is his wont. Recently, dominant bantamweight TJ Dillashaw was knocked out in the first round by Olympic gold medalist and Mexican-American Henry Cejudo, and then suffered a two-year ban for doping. Former lightweight boss Frankie Edgar failed to unseat Hawaiian featherweight champion Max Holloway back in July. Undefeated Ben Askren suffered an embarrassing five-second knockout loss to welterweight contender Jorge Masvidal. Former middleweight kingpins Luke Rockhold and Chris Weidman are on the decline. At light heavy, Jon Jones has already dispatched all viable contenders, regardless of race. And boxing great and former bantamweight champion Holly Holm recently suffered the first knockout loss of her MMA career against current Brazilian champion Amanda Nunes.

At the moment, the biggest threats whites have in the UFC outside the lightweight division are from Alexander Volkanovski at featherweight, Cory Sandhagen at bantamweight, and MAGA hat-wearing Colby Covington at welterweight (who probably should get his own article one of these days given his vocal support for Donald Trump and his entertainingly trollish behavior). If this is an ongoing trend or merely a slump, only time will tell.

Welterweight contender Colby Covington.

The opposite seems to be happening in boxing, however, with an incredible upsurge of white talent. This pound-for-pound list puts four whites in the top ten, and three in the top three! These include the Ukrainians Vasyl Lomanchenko at lightweight[2] (who recently fended off a stiff challenge from white British contender Luke Campbell) and Olexander Usyk at cruiserweight, the red-haired Mexican Canelo Alvarez (yes, I consider him white), and the big-mouthed and big-bodied Brit Tyson Fury.[3] Fury recently came out of retirement (and near-obesity) to score a draw against undefeated knockout artist Deontay Wilder in a fight everyone else besides the judges felt he had won. Here’s video of Fury’s miraculous comeback in round twelve after being floored by a pair of shots that would have killed just about anybody else.

Race doesn’t come up much in MMA – and it really shouldn’t. Fight fans just want to see exciting fights, and never is a fighter’s race an obstacle to that. Most important is that the competitors fight fairly, are as evenly matched as possible, and receive the appropriate treatment from the referees and judges. Of course, who each fan roots for is their own business. What I have seen is that, all things being equal, people will root for the fighter closest to them genetically, culturally, and geographically. Chinese fans are now excited about Weili Zhang in ways they would never have been about a non-Chinese fighter. This is both good and natural. It is also something that white people in the West seem to have forgotten; otherwise, they would have been much more excited about Stipe Miocic’s incredible come-from-behind victory against Daniel Cormier.

Early on in Gerry Cooney’s fight against Larry Holmes, one of Cooney’s handlers urged him on by saying, “America needs you!” At this moment, however, it doesn’t seem as if America needs Stipe Miocic.

But I wish it did.

Notes

[1] Valentina Shevchenko, by the way, is an amazing woman. Of Ukrainian heritage, she is tri-lingual, highly intelligent, full of class, and deadly. Check out her devastating head-kick knockout of poor Jessica Eye and her impeccable behavior afterwards. Check out also her white woman’s dance, which she performs after each victory.

[2] In keeping with the dancing leitmotif of this article, Lomanchenko was trained as a child in Hopak dancing in his native Ukraine. He attributes his amazing footwork to his experience as a dancer.

[3] Although he does not dance (as far as we know), Tyson Fury can sing pretty well and often serenades his wife after his victories. Here he is hitting all right notes after his dominant victory over another Ukrainian great, Wladimir Klitschko.

Spencer J. Quinn is a frequent contributor to Counter-Currents and the author of the novel White Like You.

 

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15 comments

  1. Ricardo Duchesne says:
    September 10, 2019 at 7:05 am

    In Part I, you stated: “As with almost all sports in which they compete, blacks also over-perform in MMA…”

    Whites actually outperform blacks in most sports: https://www.eurocanadian.ca/2018/06/whites-are-better-in-almost-all-sports-and-strongest-in-world.html

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    1. Spencer Quinn says:
      September 10, 2019 at 9:16 am

      Dr Duchesne,

      I had said that blacks over-perform in “almost all sports in which they compete.” And this is true.

      I didn’t say blacks outperform whites necessarily. It is possible for blacks to over-perform and still not outperform whites. Blacks make up 13% of the American population, but if they make up 5 of the 25 greatest baseball players of all time (which is 20%) then they are over-performing, regardless if whites make up the remaining 80%.

      Your article shows that whites are much more well-rounded in their sporting interests than blacks are–not necessarily that they are outperforming blacks in every sport. Most of the sports your article mentions (skiing, bobsledding, etc.) have few if any blacks competing at all for whatever reason. The champion white bobsledders tend to beat out other white competitors not black ones. So if a sport is populated with whites almost entirely, then how can you say they are outperforming blacks when blacks choose not to compete?

      Basically, in *almost all* the sports that blacks in the West have greatest interest (that is, any sport involving running, jumping, or fighting) they will be represented greater than their proportion of the general (Western) population. Also, you have to consider that blacks are so well compensated for playing pro sports that few will choose to endure training as an amateur for the Olympics when they could be pocketing million-dollar paydays in the NBA or NFL. We should keep that in mind while looking at white dominance of the high jump (and although there are relatively few great black high jumpers, the current first and second highest jumps of all time were accomplished solely by blacks.)

      If you include all the blacks in Africa, then their dominance in these sports will decline since their proportion of the human population will be greater. Perhaps I should have added such a qualifier in my original article.

      One of your article’s main points is that whites over-perform in almost all sports. I don’t dispute that. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that blacks don’t *also* over-perform in the few sports they have the greatest interest in. I believe there is room for both.

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  2. OMC says:
    September 10, 2019 at 7:18 am

    I wonder if the author would write about men who participate in a gender-bending activity the same way he writes about women’s MMA. Would he write about men who wear pretty dresses like it’s something totally normal that we should get excited about? If the men were white, and the dresses were elegantly designed, would he write about the implicit whiteness of high fashion drag queens?

    The spectacle of tattooed women with giant abdominal muscles beating each other to a bloody pulp should repel a normal white person. MMA is not a feminine activity. How does beating each other up help women develop the nurturing skills to raise children?

    While the other races are having kids, our men are marveling at how “deadly” their women are. Women should be praised for their fertility, kindness and modesty, not for their ability to break someone’s bones. That is no different than praising a man for being a drag queen.

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    1. NYCTexan says:
      September 10, 2019 at 7:12 pm

      I one hundred percent agree. Men who praise women for fighting also think these women could beat up the average man. It’s self evidently not true but the need to believe it is as mentally retarding as any gender or sexual pathology.

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    2. Madden says:
      September 11, 2019 at 7:37 am

      Females fighting is just ugly, be it on the street or in sports-fighting. I’m not particularly “traditionalist” in other areas of life, but I’m dismayed at the popularity of female MMA. Revolted, actually.

      Listening to a girl brag about how she beat up some other girl is an instant turn-off, no matter how hot she is. This will sound harsh, but I feel much the same way even if was in self-defense.

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  3. K says:
    September 10, 2019 at 7:25 am

    You’re be too kind to Cormier.Daniel Cormier cheated blatantly in both fights. Eye poking Stipe repeatedly. The first fight he eyepoked him on the same side he knocked him out. Brendan Dorman has great breakdowns of both fights on youtube pointing this out.

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    1. Oil Can Harry says:
      September 11, 2019 at 10:50 pm

      Thank you. As a boxing fan I’ve never seen Cormier fight until today and I was astounded by how many times he illegally poked Miocic’s eyes in their two fights.

      And the author insists he’s a class act? Well, maybe compared to other blacks…

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      1. K says:
        September 21, 2019 at 7:26 pm

        Yea, Cormier is a just a hypocrite. He complained about Jones doing that and he employs the same methods. He acts like this kindly black guy, but he is just another black cheat that the media deliberately ignores. The commentating on both fights was also absurdly pro Cormier and anti Stipe. The commentators deliberately ignored blatant eyepokes a long with the referee.

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  4. Bernie says:
    September 10, 2019 at 10:22 am

    “But white contenders are getting scarcer and scarcer in just about every division.”

    Slight disagreement here. Every division has either a white champ or upcoming challenger:

    Heavyweight – Stipe is champ but not many good whites after him (Volkov is ok).
    Light Heavy – Blachowicz may get next shot at Jones (though will likely lose). Rakic is very good and may well be the one to beat Jones in 2020.
    Middleweight – Hermansson will get next shot if he wins against Cannonier (which he will).
    Welterweight – Colby is next pending fight negotiations. Askren will be back and already has a fight scheduled for October.
    Lightweight – Poirier just lost though Gaethje or Connor will be next after Ferguson.
    Featherweight – Volkanowski has next and shoud beat Holloway.
    Bantamweight – Sandhagen or Yan are both only one win away from a title shot.

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  5. Bernie says:
    September 10, 2019 at 10:24 am

    “Later, Miocic disavowed the dance, saying he felt “ dumb” for doing it.”

    He said it was from some cartoon he watches with his 1-year-old son (or daughter).I thought it was pretty funny.

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  6. Balthazar says:
    September 10, 2019 at 1:33 pm

    This was a great article. I never thought I’d say that about a counter currents article either.

    I’m glad someone talked about MMA-it’s the only “sport” I watch, and I believe it’s one of the few consumed en masse where a competitor’s true skill and endurance are tested. In order to enter the ring, you have to be a warrior, not just a great sprinter or a steroid addled twink.

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  7. Bluebook says:
    September 11, 2019 at 2:24 am

    I’m a White man of Northern European descent, with Irish blood. And let me tell you that I was so happy to see Conor McGregor get absolutely BTFO by Khabib. McGregor showcases such astoundingly repulsive arrogance, narcissism, and avarice that really made me ashamed to be the same race as him. Khabib on the other hand was very controlled and humble in the face of Conor’s obnoxious antics. Tfw you see a Muslim embody Aryan virtue and a white guy embody negro ghetto pride. Of course I rooted for the most Aryan of the two. And as I repeatedly predicted on 4chan, Khabib won.
    I took the week off work to celebrate.
    McGregor is a massive disgrace.

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  8. Madden says:
    September 11, 2019 at 7:30 am

    As a fellow racial sports fan, I’m sure the author shares my crushing disappointment at seeing the negroids representing the United States crash out of the quarter finals of the basketball world championship to the negroids representing France.

    On the other hand, the quarter final between Australia and Czechia was an almost all-white affair, with only one mulatto per side. Spain – imo, the strongest contender – has also managed to field an-all white team. I don’t recall seeing any negroids on the Argentine team either; and although they may not be white enough for everyone’s tastes, if they were facing an all-black team like France, it’s not hard to guess which side racial fans would cheer for.

    Enjoy it while it lasts is my attitude. Based on demographic trends, it won’t be long before basketball is as black as 100m sprinting.

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  9. NationalStirnerite says:
    September 13, 2019 at 6:48 pm

    This is very important symbolically. Physical power and a crude though important kind of sexual prowess are indelibly linked so having champions in combat sports establishes a kind of primal dominance. Eastern Europeans rescued the heavyweight division (the most important division as the best heavyweight in the world is the best fighter) in the 90’s for Whites and the gigantic 6’9, 250+ pound Irish traveler Tyson Fury has since taken up the mantle as heavyweight king.

    If you looked at the interracial violence stats alone you would not be totally irrational to assume that Europeans were biologically inferior physically to not just African but Mestizos, Arabs and Sub-Continental Indian Muslims. The reality is however that White men are the tallest and strongest of all races biologically and only lose in speed and durability to blacks. Europeans also excel in more cerebral technical areas and have larger torsos, so I would expect us to have a natural advantage over all other races in mixed martial arts, where grappling and wrestling are at least as important as punching and kicking.

    Black males mature more quickly than White males and this is true of the lower apes to an even greater degree, so it’s understandable that young blacks will be physically superior to young Whites and this will give them an advantage in sports selections (even against whites with more potential talent) from a young age. There is probably also some degree of pro-black bias in sports which have been established as being majority black, as individual blacks may be assumed to posses more ability in a close contest even if they do not. Sports that take on a certain racial character will naturally make men of that race more inclined to participate than other races. Mass sports are largely the preserve of the poor/uncivilized and blacks tend more often to be from poor, highly violent and uncivilized environments from an early age. The Jewish media also worships black masculinity while seeking to culturally emasculate White men, so we are at a huge disadvantage before we even begin to judge biology.

    In speed-power team sports like American football and basketball, blacks certainly have a natural advantage over Whites in most but not all positions. Individual contests are another story and in war (arguably the truest test of racial combat abilities) it’s not even close, as evidenced by our military history and the overwhelmingly White character of the special forces to this day.

    Why then do Whites suffer such violence from other races when we have the biological capacity (even with a huge amount of physical dysgenics since adopting modern civilization) to deal with them easily? Because Whites have more to lose economically, socially, familially and criminally (other races can even gain from attacking Whites in these respects), lack the racial hatred that most other groups feel, are smarter and more future-oriented, lack a sense of strong racial identity, have been morally paralised by culture-distorting parasites and (in WE and NA especially) have lost our gang and martial ethic. Too much poisonous bourgeois comfort and too many enemies in high places.

    The example of Miocic, the Klitschko’s, Fury, other champions and top competitors prove that Europeans have a natural capacity for primal violence that is more than a match for any other group. On a collective/technological level, we vastly exceed all other groups. We have more than enough natural ability to defeat our enemies but we must regain the discipline, solidarity and will to achieve it. Above all, this means obsession in honing our masculine qualities and rejecting all forms of decadence intended to undermine us.

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    1. Spencer Quinn says:
      September 16, 2019 at 5:22 am

      NationalStirnerite,

      This was very well said. Thank you.

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Writer & Article of the Month May 2026

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Top Writers

  • #1 Morris van de Camp 2 votes
  • #2 David M. Zsutty 2 votes
  • #3 Derek Stark 2 votes
  • #4 Jayant Bhandari 2 votes
  • #5 Greg Johnson 2 votes
  • #6 Jared Taylor 1 vote
  • #7 Collin Cleary 1 vote
  • #8 Spencer J. Quinn 1 vote
  • #9 Mark Gullick 1 vote
  • #10 Lipton Matthews 1 vote
  • #11 Keith Woods 1 vote
  • #12 Steven Tucker 1 vote

Top Articles

  • #1 The Lunch Wars 2 votes
  • #2 Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One 2 votes
  • #3 Could Fascism Work? 1 vote
  • #4 Jared Taylor's Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire 1 vote
  • #5 Predation Wearing the Mask of Civilization 1 vote
  • #6 Peak Fatigue in Fort Wayne 1 vote
  • #7 Keith Wood's Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire 1 vote
  • #8 Do You Want to Play a Game? 1 vote
  • #9 Why Billionaires Should Fund White Identity Politics 1 vote
  • #10 The 1970s: The Golden Age of Hijacking 1 vote
  • #11 True Folk-Horror Is Horror of Your Own Folk 1 vote
  • #12 Finding Atlantis Part 4 1 vote
  • #13 Berlin: City of Stones 1 vote
  • #14 The Ghost of the Confederacy 1 vote
  • #15 Lothrop Stoddard’s The Revolt Against Civilization 1 vote

Total votes cast: 17