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Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 641
America First, Trump, & War in Iran

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129 words / 1:39:16No, Iran. THIS is how you wipe a country off the map.

Greg Johnson and David Zsutty discussed America’s lurch towards war with Iran and other topics in this edition of Counter-Currents Radio. It is now available to download or listen to online.

Topics include:

1:49 – The bad-faith negotiations between the US and Iran.
8:00 – The usual suspects baying for blood.
12:41 – Donald Trump believes in silly things.
16:10 – How the Epstein Files play into things.
20:32 – It might be too late for Trump.
30:12 – We cannot pursue the interests of the United States if Jews have other plans.
38:51 – Listener question on people who leave the movement.
52:55 – Trump’s pandering to the agriculture and hospitality industries.
1:11:27 – Listener question on the anti-immigration riots in Northern Ireland.
1:21:44 – Question on AI and automation.

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  1. Dr. Martin Luther says:
    June 19, 2025 at 7:22 pm

    Thanks for this! Am listening right now.

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  2. Anon says:
    June 19, 2025 at 8:34 pm

    I think the movement should reorient toward encouraging/facilitating emigration to Europe. If we manage to organize effectively in America, the country will be lost by the time we are in a position to change anything.

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    1. DM says:
      June 20, 2025 at 12:17 am

      Point well taken.

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  3. Eric says:
    June 20, 2025 at 8:04 am

    Please liberate our State of Jefferson before divorcing the California Republic.

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  4. DarkPlato says:
    June 20, 2025 at 2:34 pm

    Great talk, as always!  Perhaps a guest who could take things in a more cultural direction?

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  5. james smith says:
    June 20, 2025 at 4:43 pm

    We own Iran skies, Iranians own the ground. The territory is much more difficult for conquest than Iraq or Afghanistan. Guerilla tactics which would prevail, would take a toll on US soldiers. Iran is an enemy because we made them an enemy via Zionism and Anglo American petroleum. I agree with this conversation, Trump is an idiot, trouble is he always was an idiot, sooo the real threat are the idiots who put him there. A delegator  of responsibility – to greater idiots than himself and a congress that only shrugs decision making power still further to others (now throw in the supreme court and other bodies), while sucking in lobby money (no hesitation there). How many miles can our great bomb penetrate? How do you prevent Iran from getting the bomb if their allies and sympathizers decide to gift it to them? Would the provider fear a forensic team figuring out who provided it, depends on how much residual pieces would survive a nuclear blast. Will conventional weapons not be provided by Russia and china over land routes because we warn them not to? So we own the sky… whose troops will be sacrificed, america’s or Israel’s. Who will sign up? The Ben’s, Smoltrich, Ted Cruz? the Graham family? What will run out first, enemy combatants or million dollar missiles, (one for each of them). Maybe the taxpayer will pay out an extra for an anti-terrorist body guard?  The danger of the Israeli’s – aggressive elements (a minority) which control that government, have been recognized since Eisenhower, the Kennedy’s, Carter, etc. Having ignored it we now have blood on our hands and the world is tipped against us. We may not realize this while we are at happy hour.  Also, the statement made here was “the only way Israel would be continuously supported by this government WAS if it became communist”(???) I believe if this government was Socialist or Fascist per Il Duce and doctrine, this would never have been allowed. The governments that allowed it,, in real time,, are so called “Democratic Republics” or more honestly financial oligarchs.

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  6. Anne says:
    June 21, 2025 at 6:06 am

    I can hear Greg but David talks too fast and slurs his words

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  7. E. Naqwaaz-Wright says:
    June 21, 2025 at 7:26 am

    46’30” Really? Krogan is back?! How so?

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  8. Hyacinth Bouquet says:
    June 22, 2025 at 6:44 am

    Thank you, C-C Radio, for this interesting, thought-provoking and wide-ranging conversation.  Greg Johnson’s take on Trump, as in other recent commentary (especially, the excellent “Trump, Iran, & My Red Line), is absolutely spot-on!  Trump does believe stupid things, and he regularly says incredibly stupid things.

     

    It has been a painful conclusion for me to arrive at, after years of resenting all the Boomer insulting: Boomer-brain is very real.  It is endemic to older Whites, and it is very deeply ingrained in the majority of them.  (As Greg Johnson also pointed out in recent commentary, Boomer now just means old person.)

     

    Giving generational astrology it’s due, however, I do know a handful of Greatest Generation who, working-class when younger, have managed to hold on to what would be considered a “based” viewpoint on race — despite decades of massive brainwashing propaganda.  Even though, thankfully, the actual Boomers in my small circle have the right racial instincts, they still dogmatically filter it all through the colorblind-equality lens.  My dear sister, a wife, mother, and educated professional, rails against illegal immigration, while welcoming the class of legal imports who, in her words, “come here and contribute something”; the type of seemingly non-threatening invaders who are co-workers with her at an large hospital.  She has fallen for the bait-and-switch trap of equating “illegal” immigration with those alien, unpleasant, potentially violent, non-assimilating, social welfare-dependent brown hordes; mistakenly overlooking the fact that the majority of those came here LEGALLY, too.

     

    It would take massive self-effort on the part of anyone with Boomer-brain to break the conditioning; and most, like Trump, are simply not ever going to undertake that journey.

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  9. Paul says:
    June 24, 2025 at 2:38 am

    Great conversation! I’d like to hear more about the American Freedom Party.

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Writers of May

(2 votes) Morris van de Camp David M. Zsutty Derek Stark Jayant Bhandari Greg Johnson

Articles of May

The Lunch Wars by David M. Zsutty Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One by Collin Cleary 2 votes
    • Editor’s Update
      Rob Rundo Rescheduled to Next Week on Counter-Currents Radio;
      Tonight Greg Johnson & David Zsutty Answer Your Questions;
      Fundraiser Update & a New $20,000 Matching Grant

      Greg Johnson

    • The Counter-Currents 2026 Fundraiser
      Lifetime Subscriber Welcome Packages Extended

      Greg Johnson

    • Nationalism This Week
      Who’s Looking Back?

      Greg Johnson

      17

    • China’s Threat to American Security:
      Food, Farmland, Foreign Control, & Energy Policy

      Lipton Matthews

      1

    • The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part Two

      Collin Cleary

      8

    • The Killing of Henry Nowak

      Mark Gullick

      28

    • The Crisis of Chinese Technology Thieves

      Morris van de Camp

      1

    • The Strange World of Gender Bender Fiction:
      & What This Genre Tells Us About Autosexuality

      Dani Vypont

      3

    • Watching the Watchers:
      The Dark Triad Question

      David M. Zsutty

      14

    • The Remigration Movement Solidifies

      F. Roger Devlin

      1

    • Casting Aspersions:
      The Fatal Consequences of Race-Swapped Casting, From Helen of Troy to Henry of Southampton

      Steven Tucker

      20

    • The Murder of Henry Nowak

      Millennial Woes

      23

    • Don’t Forget to Vote in Our Writer & Article of the Month Poll

      Greg Johnson

    • The Robot Hotdog Stand

      Greg Johnson

      35

    • Laughing Our Way to Victory

      Dave Chambers

      7

    • The Zodiac Killer

      Mark Gullick

      11

    • Jared Taylor: What Rome Means to Me

      Jared Taylor

      1

    • An Interview with Endeavour:
      My Way of Life Is an Adventure!

      Ondrej Mann

      6

    • José Pedro Zúquete’s The Identitarians

      Greg Johnson

      3

    • Editor’s Update
      Fundraiser Update & How to Watch the Remigration Summit

      Greg Johnson

      5

    • The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One

      Collin Cleary

      11

    • Berlin: City of Stones

      Spencer J. Quinn

      6

    • True Folk-Horror Is Horror of Your Own Folk:
      Mark Gatiss vs the Brexit Blind Dead  

      Steven Tucker

      4

    • Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 689
      Thomas Massie, the America 2050 Bust, the Need for Whites to Divest from America, the AI Economic Apocalypse, & Pro-White Project Pitches to Billionaires

      Counter-Currents Radio

      7

    • Nationalism This Week
      Remigration is Inevitable, Part 3

      Greg Johnson

      27

    • Why Billionaires Should Fund White Identity Politics

      Lipton Matthews

      8

    • How Cold War Two Came About

      Morris van de Camp

      5

    • Now Available for Pre-Order at a Special Price!
      Greg Johnson’s The Philosopher Is In

      Greg Johnson

    • David Zsutty’s Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire

      David M. Zsutty

      1

    • Headbanging Lite

      Mark Gullick

      5

    • White Advocacy Past and Present

      Peter Bradley

      13

    • The Lunch Wars

      David M. Zsutty

      47

    • The Russians are Coming/The Russians are Coming

      Steven Clark

      1

    • Peak Fatigue in Fort Wayne

      Gabriel Anderson

      24

    • Keith Woods’ Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire

      Keith Woods

    • The Cruelty of Kindness

      Morris van de Camp

      9

    • Predation Wearing the Mask of Civilization

      Jayant Bhandari

      13

    • The Mandalorian & Grogu

      Trevor Lynch

      24

    • Editor’s Update
      Fundraiser Update & a New $20,000 Matching Grant
      Greg Johnson & David Zsutty Discuss Thomas Massie on Counter-Currents Radio

      Greg Johnson

      2

    • How the Jews Defeated Thomas Massie—& Themselves

      David M. Zsutty

      25

    • Jared Taylor’s Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire

      Jared Taylor

      15

    • Nationalism This Week
      Remigration Is Inevitable, Part 2

      Greg Johnson

      8

    • Could Fascism Work?

      Mark Gullick

      40

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 7

      Jonathan Bowden

    • China’s Quiet Hand:
      Influence, Infiltration, & the Western Blind Spot

      Lipton Matthews

      9

    • Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 688
      Tyler Dykes on Running for US Congress in South Carolina

      Counter-Currents Radio

      3

    • Lothrop Stoddard’s The Revolt Against Civilization

      Spencer J. Quinn

      14

    • Lewis Strauss Did Nothing Wrong:
      How the politics of the Atom Bomb during the early Cold War Apply to Artificial Intelligence Today

      Morris van de Camp

      14

    • The Ghost of the Confederacy

      Dave Chambers

      12

    • America’s Century of Humiliation has Begun

      Greg Johnson

      27

    • Will Williams

      Nationalism This Week
      Who’s Looking Back?

      Vauquelin: June 7, 2026 ...You must judge AI/LLM based on those who control it. With the likes of...

    • Hi-ya!

      The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part Two

      Love to engage in this with more attention ; I’ve never seen “clearing” in presocratics and my hot...

    • Vauquelin

      Nationalism This Week
      Who’s Looking Back?

      You must judge AI/LLM based on those who control it. With the likes of Sam Altman and Alex Karp...

    • Chud

      Nationalism This Week
      Who’s Looking Back?

      There's another dangerous option where homebrew AI models scale up and the consumers get their...

    • Gabe

      Nationalism This Week
      Who’s Looking Back?

      Boom. Nailed it.

    • Joe Gould

      The Killing of Henry Nowak

      This is a good article. The only thing I want to add is, above all we must guard ourselves against...

    • Greg Johnson

      Nationalism This Week
      Who’s Looking Back?

      Thank you I also wonder if these AI bots are being used to gather intelligence on influential...

    • E_Perez

      The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part Two

      "Philosophy helps Western man understand how we got to where we are, and where things went wrong...

    • Chud

      Nationalism This Week
      Who’s Looking Back?

      I'll try to give a rundown. AI is a language learning model (LLM) that uses floating point...

    • Will Williams

      How the Jews Defeated Thomas Massie—& Themselves

      Massie to Honor USS Liberty Crew on House Floor [email protected]  June 6, 2026  thomas...

    • JBP

      Editor’s Update
      Saturday: Greg Johnson & David Zsutty Discuss the Epstein Bomb on Counter-Currents Radio

      Sorry but... Wrong, wrong wrong and wrong. The current momentum of history will not change with a...

    • Will Williams

      Nationalism This Week
      The SPLC Indictment

      The indictment of the Southern Poverty Law Center by the Department of Justice on 21 April is...

    • Zarathustra

      The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part Two

      I rather liked this song by Puscifer.

    • Will Williams

      The Killing of Henry Nowak

      Pray in one hand, shit in the other, and see which hand fills up first.Connor McDowell: June 6...

    • Julius Strange

      Nationalism This Week
      Who’s Looking Back?

      It is always possible to run AI models locally to prevent data being collected. The bigger and more...

    • tempus

      Casting Aspersions:
      The Fatal Consequences of Race-Swapped Casting, From Helen of Troy to Henry of Southampton

      There is a measure of beauty. It is the “Helen.” One Helen equals that quantity of beauty that...

    • tempus

      The Robot Hotdog Stand

      Since AI is a heavy energy consumer, the surest and quickest way for an AI to prevent another AI...

    • Tye

      The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part Two

      I remember his excellent pieces about The Birds. Thanks for the reminder, I’m going thru his essays...

    • SteveH

      The Killing of Henry Nowak

      'who" not "whom"

    • DenisetheCelt

      Laughing Our Way to Victory

      The Black Lies Splatter scam was run by jews. Period. Floyd was worthless drug-addicted criminal...

    • Earth Day Special

      John Morgan

      12

    • A Robertson Roundup
      Remembering Wilmot Robertson
      (April 16, 1915 – July 8, 2005)

      Margot Metroland

      13

    • The Paranoid Style in White Nationalism

      Greg Johnson

      30

    • Join the Dance!

      Andrew Hamilton

      1

    • We Can’t Save the Earth Without Reducing African Birth Rates

      James Dunphy

      36

    • “I’m Not a Conspiracy Theorist, but . . .”:
      Jeffrey Epstein’s Death Gives New Life to “Conspiracy Theories”

      Greg Johnson

      22

    • Sylvia Plath: Stasis in Darkness

      Vic Olvir

      17

    • Vanguardism, Vantardism, & Mainstreaming

      Greg Johnson

      80

    • Aviation, Geography, & Race

      Charles Lindbergh

      3

    • Some Thoughts on Yule

      Collin Cleary

      4

    • Living in Truth:
      A Yuletide Homily

      Jef Costello

      7

    • John Kennedy Toole’s A Confederacy of Dunces

      Greg Johnson

      20

    • On Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s Warning to the West

      Spencer J. Quinn

      7

    • Elitism, British Modernism, & Wyndham Lewis

      Jonathan Bowden

      6

    • Philip K. Dick’s Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? as Anti-Semitic/Christian-Gnostic Allegory

      Greg Johnson

      20

    • “Conspiracy Theory” or Conspiracy?

      Andrew Hamilton

      21

    • Remembering H. P. Lovecraft
      (August 20, 1890–March 15, 1937)

      Greg Johnson

      3

    • Who Are We?
      Nordics, Aryans, & Whites

      Greg Johnson

      71

    • Remembering William Gayley Simpson
      (July 23, 1892–December 31, 1990)
      A Pleasant Afternoon with Harriet & Bill Simpson

      Margot Metroland

      18

    • Here are the Young Men
      Remembering Ian Curtis
      (July 15, 1956–May 18, 1980)

      Mark Gullick

      18

    • Percy Grainger
      Artist of the Right

      Alex Graham

      7

    • Remembering Revilo Oliver
      (July 7, 1908–August 20, 1994)

      Greg Johnson

      18

    • The Meaning of July 4th for the White Man

      Gregory Hood

      13

    • The Front National’s Evolution

      Bruno Mégret

    • Merwin K. Hart
      Forgotten American Hero & Man of the Right

      Morris van de Camp

      10

    • George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four

      Jonathan Bowden

      8

    • Carleton S. Coon
      Scientist & Reluctant White Advocate

      Morris van de Camp

      3

    • The Kwanzaa Absurdity Will Be Dwarfed by Juneteenth

      Robert Hampton

      10

    • Stravinsky

      Alex Graham

      7

    • Like the Roman:
      Remembering Enoch Powell (1912-1998)

      Mark Gullick

      23

    • The Game of Tarot

      Mark Gullick

      1

    • Institutions Cannot Be Transplanted

      Jayant Bhandari

      5

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 5

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Crosstown Traffic:
      Jimi Hendrix & The Post-War Rock ‘N’ Roll Revolution

      Mark Gullick

      1

    • Slaves from the North:
      Finns & Karelians in the East European Slave Trade, 900–1600

      Lipton Matthews

      14

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 4

      Karel Veliky

      2

    • David Lean’s A Passage to India

      Spencer J. Quinn

      1

    • Elites are Essential to Development

      Lipton Matthews

      7

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 4

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 3

      Karel Veliky

      6

    • E. M. Forster’s A Passage to India & the Indian Mentality

      Spencer J. Quinn

      25

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 3

      Jonathan Bowden

    • The Rest Is Silence
      Heidegger’s Quietism

      Mark Gullick

      2

    • Dispelling the Historical Fallacy of Indian Nationalism

      Lipton Matthews

      8

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 2

      Karel Veliky

      8

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 2

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Life of a Klansman

      Mark Gullick

      8

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance, Part 1

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Decolonial Ideas are Holding Back Developing Countries

      Lipton Matthews

      8

    • Neo-fascism in Film, Part 1

      Karel Veliky

      21

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 8
      Divigations on Decadence

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 7
      Intrigues in the National Front

      Jonathan Bowden

      1

    • Rotten to the Core

      Mark Gullick

      8

    • Strauss on Husserl’s “Philosophy as Rigorous Science”

      Greg Johnson

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 6
      Francis Bacon & Right-Wing Nihilism

      Jonathan Bowden

    • London After (& Before) Midnight:
      Aleister Crowley, The Landlord’s Worst Nightmare

      James J. O'Meara

      2

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 5
      The Post-War British Far Right

      Jonathan Bowden

    • No Rules: Rollerball

      Mark Gullick

      4

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 3
      Brett Easton Ellis’ American Psycho

      Jonathan Bowden

    • An Alternate History of the Harris Presidency

      Beau Albrecht

      5

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Writer & Article of the Month May 2026

Voting for this month has concluded. Here are the final results!

Top Writers

  • #1 Morris van de Camp 2 votes
  • #2 David M. Zsutty 2 votes
  • #3 Derek Stark 2 votes
  • #4 Jayant Bhandari 2 votes
  • #5 Greg Johnson 2 votes
  • #6 Jared Taylor 1 vote
  • #7 Collin Cleary 1 vote
  • #8 Spencer J. Quinn 1 vote
  • #9 Mark Gullick 1 vote
  • #10 Lipton Matthews 1 vote
  • #11 Keith Woods 1 vote
  • #12 Steven Tucker 1 vote

Top Articles

  • #1 The Lunch Wars 2 votes
  • #2 Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One 2 votes
  • #3 Could Fascism Work? 1 vote
  • #4 Jared Taylor's Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire 1 vote
  • #5 Predation Wearing the Mask of Civilization 1 vote
  • #6 Peak Fatigue in Fort Wayne 1 vote
  • #7 Keith Wood's Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire 1 vote
  • #8 Do You Want to Play a Game? 1 vote
  • #9 Why Billionaires Should Fund White Identity Politics 1 vote
  • #10 The 1970s: The Golden Age of Hijacking 1 vote
  • #11 True Folk-Horror Is Horror of Your Own Folk 1 vote
  • #12 Finding Atlantis Part 4 1 vote
  • #13 Berlin: City of Stones 1 vote
  • #14 The Ghost of the Confederacy 1 vote
  • #15 Lothrop Stoddard’s The Revolt Against Civilization 1 vote

Total votes cast: 17