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Ravel’s Cosmopolitan Nationalism

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Today marks the 150th anniversary of the birth of Maurice Ravel, one of France’s greatest composers. Ravel’s music is instantly recognizable for its otherworldly, colorful sound and inventive harmonies and orchestration.

Like his student and friend Ralph Vaughan Williams, Ravel was highly original yet eschewed the iconoclasm popular among many of his contemporaries. His music exhibits an emphasis on melody and use of traditional forms as well as a distinctly French sensibility.

Ravel’s links to the past are sometimes overlooked in light of his forward-looking harmonic language. He considered himself a French composer (despite his Basque heritage) and was steeped in France’s musical heritage. Le tombeau de Couperin, for example, hearkens back to the golden age of French music through the lens of Ravel’s unique idiom. Like his Classical and Baroque predecessors, Ravel was fond of antiquated dance forms, as evinced by works like Menuet antique, Pavane pour une infante défunte, Valses nobles et sentimentales, and La valse. His Trois chansons were inspired by sixteenth-century French chansons, particularly the music of Clément Jannequin. “Trois beaux oiseaux du Paradis” features red, white, and blue birds, an allusion to the French flag. More generally, Ravel’s music exhibits an ethos of elegance and restraint—Ravel characterizes the French musical character, with which he identifies, as “one of reserve” and “objectivity and clarity of design.”[1]

Ravel’s attitudes toward nationalism and “Frenchness” in music are interesting. He describes the creative process as “an interplay of national and individual consciousness” and praises Debussy for drawing on both:

His genius was obviously one of great individuality, creating its own laws, constantly in evolution, expressing itself freely, yet always faithful to French tradition.[2]

He argues that composers should adhere to their respective national traditions:

In virtue of the indissoluble ties binding each to his respective national consciousness, it is, of course, inconceivable that either one [French or German] should be able to express himself adequately in the language of the other.

Nationalism, in his view, “does not deprive the composer either of his personal soul or of its individual expression, for each creative artist has within him laws peculiar to his own being.”[3] Far from constraining one’s individuality, it is “hybrids” who experience a loss of identity and individuality. For Ravel, this did not translate to a blanket condemnation of foreign influence: indeed, he was influenced by sources as diverse as jazz, the blues, Javanese gamelan, and Spanish and Basque folk music. What he condemns is stylistic incoherence and rootlessness. He considered his blues-inflected music to be essentially French in nature. This makes sense, in the same way that Led Zeppelin’s music owes more to Led Zeppelin than it does to the blues.

Ravel’s views bring to mind Johann Gottfried Herder’s pluralistic nationalism. If national and regional identities did not exist, “individual consciousness” would still engender some degree of variety, but a dimension of particularity would be lost. Global homogeneity is the enemy of true diversity. Artistic cross-pollination among nations is healthy but should not degenerate into mindless eclecticism or come at the expense of individual and national integrity.

In 1910, Ravel founded the Société musicale indépendante in reaction to the efforts of the Société nationale de musique to forbid the performance of German and Austrian music in the name of French nationalism. He warned that French music would suffer if French composers became a chauvinistic clique insulated from German influence. For this he was unjustly smeared by a Right-wing music critic as a Leftist internationalist.[4] But his opposition to the Société nationale de musique was motivated by artistic considerations; it was not a political statement. Moreover, Ravel announced his wish “to continue to ‘act as a Frenchman’ and to count [himself] ‘among those who intend never to forget that they are French.’”[5] When he received pushback, he was offended by how his “‘qualité de françois’ [Frenchness] had been called into question.”[6]

Describing Ravel as a “man of the right” is debatable. He hardly ever commented on politics. The little evidence of his views suggests that he had socialist sympathies.[7] An admirer of Baudelaire and a lifelong dandy, he was an aloof aesthete, self-contained and above the fray. He went as far as to decline all state honors, including the Légion d’honneur.

Having said that, Ravel’s views on the role of “national consciousness” in music have völkisch overtones, and his dandyish aloofness hints at an elitist sensibility. The dandy is a reactionary figure who emerges at the twilight of civilization and stands athwart “progress.” Baudelaire once quipped that “dandyism is the last spark of heroism amid decadence.” Ravel was at least spiritually an artist of the right, if not overtly.

Notes

[1] “Une conférence de Maurice Ravel à Houston,” Revue de Musicologie (vol. 50, no. 129, Dec. 1964), pp. 214, 216.

[2] Ibid., p. 216.

[3] Ibid., p. 214.

[4] Steven Huebner, “Ravel’s Politics,” The Musical Quarterly (vol. 97, no. 1, Spring 2014), p. 80.

[5] Maurice Ravel, Letter to the Committee of the League for the Defence of French Music, Bibliothèque nationale de France, June 7, 1916.

[6] Huebner, p. 82.

[7] Ibid., p. 69.

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  1. ArminiusMaximus says:
    March 7, 2025 at 5:18 pm

    I once had a counterpoint class with a teacher who was a second generation removed from Ravel as a teacher. One anecdote about Ravel that he shared was that one day Ravel showed up in first year counterpoint class at the Conservatory of Paris. The students were shocked and asked him what he was doing. He stated that he was there because counterpoint was essential to being a composer. He stated that he would go back to the very foundations on occasion in order to, “clean out his ears”, and humble and understand himself to see if he had even mastered the basic foundations.

    I have no reason to believe this wasn’t true. If it is, then Ravel is very much a traditionalist. He honored the foundations of his craft back to the beginning. He was aristocratic and confident enough to be a perpetual student, willing to go back to ground zero in his quest for the transcendent through his craft.

    His music is absolutely wonderful. His string quartet in F is dazzling. I think I will put it on in honor of his genius. Thank you for celebrating him today.

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  2. IFA says:
    March 7, 2025 at 10:46 pm

    He’s a hit-or-miss composer for me, but some of his pieces are phenomenal; specifically, his Daphnis et Chloe… it melts the heart…as does his Pavane (delicate, triste, evocative), among several others.

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(2 votes) Morris van de Camp David M. Zsutty Derek Stark Jayant Bhandari Greg Johnson

Articles of May

Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One by Collin Cleary The Lunch Wars by David M. Zsutty 2 votes
    • The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part Three

      Collin Cleary

    • Uncivil War

      Mark Gullick

      1

    • Exclusive Interview with Karel Veliky:
      The Final Chapter in the Film Series! Part II

      Ondrej Mann

    • Happy Birthday to Us!

      Greg Johnson

      6

    • Zsutty’s Maximum

      David M. Zsutty

      10

    • Exclusive Interview with Karel Veliky:
      The Final Chapter in the Film Series! Part I

      Ondrej Mann

      2

    • The Union Jackal, June 2026

      Mark Gullick

      21

    • The Inferiority Behind Immigrant Superiority

      Jayant Bhandari

      15

    • Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 690
      Greg Johnson & David Zsutty Discuss Current Things: AI, Henry Nowak, the Iran Crisis, & More

      Counter-Currents Radio

      5

    • Collin Cleary: What Rome Means to Me

      Collin Cleary

      4

    • Paul Krugman: Closet Bolshevik

      Spencer J. Quinn

      16

    • Fugue of Ideas:
      Ibram X. Kendi’s Chain of Ideas

      Greg Johnson

      18

    • Based Blacks

      Lipton Matthews

      11

    • Black Intellectual Fatigue

      Derek Stark

      36

    • Why White Advocates Should Avoid “Based Blacks”

      Dani Vypont

      24

    • Nietzsche & Race

      Mark Gullick

    • Editor’s Update
      Rob Rundo Rescheduled to Next Week on Counter-Currents Radio;
      Tonight Greg Johnson & David Zsutty Answer Your Questions;
      Fundraiser Update & a New $20,000 Matching Grant

      Greg Johnson

    • The Counter-Currents 2026 Fundraiser
      Lifetime Subscriber Welcome Packages Extended

      Greg Johnson

    • Nationalism This Week
      Who’s Looking Back?

      Greg Johnson

      29

    • China’s Threat to American Security:
      Food, Farmland, Foreign Control, & Energy Policy

      Lipton Matthews

      5

    • The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part Two

      Collin Cleary

      16

    • The Killing of Henry Nowak

      Mark Gullick

      38

    • The Crisis of Chinese Technology Thieves

      Morris van de Camp

      1

    • The Strange World of Gender Bender Fiction:
      & What This Genre Tells Us About Autosexuality

      Dani Vypont

      3

    • Watching the Watchers:
      The Dark Triad Question

      David M. Zsutty

      14

    • The Remigration Movement Solidifies

      F. Roger Devlin

      1

    • Casting Aspersions:
      The Fatal Consequences of Race-Swapped Casting, From Helen of Troy to Henry of Southampton

      Steven Tucker

      20

    • The Murder of Henry Nowak

      Millennial Woes

      23

    • Don’t Forget to Vote in Our Writer & Article of the Month Poll

      Greg Johnson

    • The Robot Hotdog Stand

      Greg Johnson

      37

    • Laughing Our Way to Victory

      Dave Chambers

      7

    • The Zodiac Killer

      Mark Gullick

      11

    • Jared Taylor: What Rome Means to Me

      Jared Taylor

      1

    • An Interview with Endeavour:
      My Way of Life Is an Adventure!

      Ondrej Mann

      6

    • José Pedro Zúquete’s The Identitarians

      Greg Johnson

      3

    • Editor’s Update
      Fundraiser Update & How to Watch the Remigration Summit

      Greg Johnson

      5

    • The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One

      Collin Cleary

      12

    • Berlin: City of Stones

      Spencer J. Quinn

      6

    • True Folk-Horror Is Horror of Your Own Folk:
      Mark Gatiss vs the Brexit Blind Dead  

      Steven Tucker

      4

    • Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 689
      Thomas Massie, the America 2050 Bust, the Need for Whites to Divest from America, the AI Economic Apocalypse, & Pro-White Project Pitches to Billionaires

      Counter-Currents Radio

      7

    • Nationalism This Week
      Remigration is Inevitable, Part 3

      Greg Johnson

      27

    • Why Billionaires Should Fund White Identity Politics

      Lipton Matthews

      8

    • How Cold War Two Came About

      Morris van de Camp

      5

    • Now Available for Pre-Order at a Special Price!
      Greg Johnson’s The Philosopher Is In

      Greg Johnson

    • David Zsutty’s Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire

      David M. Zsutty

      1

    • Headbanging Lite

      Mark Gullick

      5

    • White Advocacy Past and Present

      Peter Bradley

      13

    • The Lunch Wars

      David M. Zsutty

      47

    • The Russians are Coming/The Russians are Coming

      Steven Clark

      1

    • Peak Fatigue in Fort Wayne

      Gabriel Anderson

      24

    • Elear

      Uncivil War

      I've seen claims on social media that the rioters are predominantly Scots-Irish, not Irish. Same for...

    • Ondrej Mann

      Exclusive Interview with Karel Veliky:
      The Final Chapter in the Film Series! Part I

      This is a matter of aesthetics and historical context, and that is always problematic. As for the...

    • Greg Johnson

      Happy Birthday to Us!

      Thank you! The Philosopher Is In is now shipping. Take a look and let me know what you think

    • Joe Gould

      Zsutty’s Maximum

      Uniquely, Whites typically favor morally defined in-groups.* That means you can get us to treat you...

    • CC Reader

      Happy Birthday to Us!

      Happy birthday

    • Scott

      Why White Advocates Should Avoid “Based Blacks”

      I would agree that arch Conservative William F. Buckley, Jr. was a bit of a con man. Buckley’s “...

    • Nicholas Krause

      Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 690
      Greg Johnson & David Zsutty Discuss Current Things: AI, Henry Nowak, the Iran Crisis, & More

      I agree with David, the most impressive aspect of the Remigration Summit was hundreds of...

    • Hates Computers

      Paul Krugman: Closet Bolshevik

      Second this. I can't see X at all. Everytime I try to access it when there's a link to it from any...

    • DarkPlato

      Zsutty’s Maximum

      I don’t know.  Is it ok if I disagree with you guys and it won’t hurt your feelings?  I...

    • Martin Lichmez

      Exclusive Interview with Karel Veliky:
      The Final Chapter in the Film Series! Part I

      Well, because I voiced the critique about the neglect of "Murnau, Pabst and Lang", the answer is...

    • Peter Quint

      Zsutty’s Maximum

      The only reason that black on black crime is worse than black on white crime is proximity and...

    • Peter Quint

      Happy Birthday to Us!

      Great article! Glad to be a part of an evolving organization, that may one day be an institution...

    • Zarathustra

      Zsutty’s Maximum

      Someone who worked in a refugee camp once told me about a Muslim who consumed alcohol in the camp....

    • Hi-ya!

      Happy Birthday to Us!

      Great site , Greg. I loved the trial of Socrates.

    • Wasili

      Paul Krugman: Closet Bolshevik

      It’s revealing that Krugman returns so often to the explanation that rural MAGA voters are primarily...

    • Will Williams

      Happy Birthday to Us!

      I don’t know about numerology or astrology, but Greg’s very real assessment of our situation is why...

    • Mark Gullick

      The Union Jackal, June 2026

      "Weren’t all of these incidents somewhat predictable when you openly invite masses of low...

    • Dani Vypont

      Happy Birthday to Us!

      Congrats on 16 years!Since David Zsutty has mentioned on the podcast that he has an interest in...

    • Will Williams

      Zsutty’s Maximum

      C.E. Whiteoak: June 11, 2026  Fantastic article. I have never seen a better explanation of...

    • Flel

      The Union Jackal, June 2026

      Weren’t all of these incidents somewhat predictable when you openly invite masses of low...

    • Earth Day Special

      John Morgan

      12

    • A Robertson Roundup
      Remembering Wilmot Robertson
      (April 16, 1915 – July 8, 2005)

      Margot Metroland

      13

    • The Paranoid Style in White Nationalism

      Greg Johnson

      30

    • Join the Dance!

      Andrew Hamilton

      1

    • We Can’t Save the Earth Without Reducing African Birth Rates

      James Dunphy

      36

    • “I’m Not a Conspiracy Theorist, but . . .”:
      Jeffrey Epstein’s Death Gives New Life to “Conspiracy Theories”

      Greg Johnson

      22

    • Sylvia Plath: Stasis in Darkness

      Vic Olvir

      17

    • Vanguardism, Vantardism, & Mainstreaming

      Greg Johnson

      80

    • Aviation, Geography, & Race

      Charles Lindbergh

      3

    • Some Thoughts on Yule

      Collin Cleary

      4

    • Living in Truth:
      A Yuletide Homily

      Jef Costello

      7

    • John Kennedy Toole’s A Confederacy of Dunces

      Greg Johnson

      20

    • On Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s Warning to the West

      Spencer J. Quinn

      7

    • Elitism, British Modernism, & Wyndham Lewis

      Jonathan Bowden

      6

    • Philip K. Dick’s Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? as Anti-Semitic/Christian-Gnostic Allegory

      Greg Johnson

      20

    • “Conspiracy Theory” or Conspiracy?

      Andrew Hamilton

      21

    • Remembering H. P. Lovecraft
      (August 20, 1890–March 15, 1937)

      Greg Johnson

      3

    • Who Are We?
      Nordics, Aryans, & Whites

      Greg Johnson

      71

    • Remembering William Gayley Simpson
      (July 23, 1892–December 31, 1990)
      A Pleasant Afternoon with Harriet & Bill Simpson

      Margot Metroland

      18

    • Here are the Young Men
      Remembering Ian Curtis
      (July 15, 1956–May 18, 1980)

      Mark Gullick

      18

    • Percy Grainger
      Artist of the Right

      Alex Graham

      7

    • Remembering Revilo Oliver
      (July 7, 1908–August 20, 1994)

      Greg Johnson

      18

    • The Meaning of July 4th for the White Man

      Gregory Hood

      13

    • The Front National’s Evolution

      Bruno Mégret

    • Merwin K. Hart
      Forgotten American Hero & Man of the Right

      Morris van de Camp

      10

    • George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four

      Jonathan Bowden

      8

    • Carleton S. Coon
      Scientist & Reluctant White Advocate

      Morris van de Camp

      3

    • The Kwanzaa Absurdity Will Be Dwarfed by Juneteenth

      Robert Hampton

      10

    • Stravinsky

      Alex Graham

      7

    • Like the Roman:
      Remembering Enoch Powell (1912-1998)

      Mark Gullick

      23

    • Sexually Incontinent on the Indian Subcontinent:
      Who Rapes More Animals, Indians or Pakistanis? The Battle Continues!

      Steven Tucker

      3

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 5

      Karel Veliky

      15

    • The Game of Tarot

      Mark Gullick

      2

    • Institutions Cannot Be Transplanted

      Jayant Bhandari

      5

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 5

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Crosstown Traffic:
      Jimi Hendrix & The Post-War Rock ‘N’ Roll Revolution

      Mark Gullick

      1

    • Slaves from the North:
      Finns & Karelians in the East European Slave Trade, 900–1600

      Lipton Matthews

      14

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 4

      Karel Veliky

      2

    • David Lean’s A Passage to India

      Spencer J. Quinn

      1

    • Elites are Essential to Development

      Lipton Matthews

      7

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 4

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 3

      Karel Veliky

      6

    • E. M. Forster’s A Passage to India & the Indian Mentality

      Spencer J. Quinn

      25

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 3

      Jonathan Bowden

    • The Rest Is Silence
      Heidegger’s Quietism

      Mark Gullick

      2

    • Dispelling the Historical Fallacy of Indian Nationalism

      Lipton Matthews

      8

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 2

      Karel Veliky

      8

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 2

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Life of a Klansman

      Mark Gullick

      8

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance, Part 1

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Decolonial Ideas are Holding Back Developing Countries

      Lipton Matthews

      8

    • Neo-fascism in Film, Part 1

      Karel Veliky

      21

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 8
      Divigations on Decadence

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 7
      Intrigues in the National Front

      Jonathan Bowden

      1

    • Rotten to the Core

      Mark Gullick

      8

    • Strauss on Husserl’s “Philosophy as Rigorous Science”

      Greg Johnson

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 6
      Francis Bacon & Right-Wing Nihilism

      Jonathan Bowden

    • London After (& Before) Midnight:
      Aleister Crowley, The Landlord’s Worst Nightmare

      James J. O'Meara

      2

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 5
      The Post-War British Far Right

      Jonathan Bowden

    • No Rules: Rollerball

      Mark Gullick

      4

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Writer & Article of the Month May 2026

Voting for this month has concluded. Here are the final results!

Top Writers

  • #1 Morris van de Camp 2 votes
  • #2 David M. Zsutty 2 votes
  • #3 Derek Stark 2 votes
  • #4 Jayant Bhandari 2 votes
  • #5 Greg Johnson 2 votes
  • #6 Jared Taylor 1 vote
  • #7 Collin Cleary 1 vote
  • #8 Spencer J. Quinn 1 vote
  • #9 Mark Gullick 1 vote
  • #10 Lipton Matthews 1 vote
  • #11 Keith Woods 1 vote
  • #12 Steven Tucker 1 vote

Top Articles

  • #1 Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One 2 votes
  • #2 The Lunch Wars 2 votes
  • #3 The Ghost of the Confederacy 1 vote
  • #4 Lothrop Stoddard’s The Revolt Against Civilization 1 vote
  • #5 Could Fascism Work? 1 vote
  • #6 Jared Taylor's Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire 1 vote
  • #7 Predation Wearing the Mask of Civilization 1 vote
  • #8 Peak Fatigue in Fort Wayne 1 vote
  • #9 Keith Wood's Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire 1 vote
  • #10 Do You Want to Play a Game? 1 vote
  • #11 Why Billionaires Should Fund White Identity Politics 1 vote
  • #12 The 1970s: The Golden Age of Hijacking 1 vote
  • #13 True Folk-Horror Is Horror of Your Own Folk 1 vote
  • #14 Finding Atlantis Part 4 1 vote
  • #15 Berlin: City of Stones 1 vote

Total votes cast: 17