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The Godfather Part II

Trevor Lynch

3,843 words

Francis Ford Coppola’s The Godfather Part II appeared in 1974, two years after the original, with much of the same cast: Al Pacino as Michael Corleone, Robert Duvall as Tom Hagen, Diane Keaton as Michael’s wife Kay, John Cazale as Fredo Corleone, and Talia Shire as Connie Corleone, plus Robert De Niro as the younger Vito Corleone, Lee Strasberg as Hyman Roth, and Michael V. Gazzo as Frank Pentangeli (“Frankie Five Angels”). Also returning were Mario Puzo, who co-wrote the screenplay with Coppola; Nino Rota, who composed the radiant music; and Gordon Willis, the cinematographer.

Like the original, Part II was a major commercial and critical success. It was nominated for eleven Academy Awards and won six. It is the first sequel to win Best Picture. It is regularly featured in lists of the greatest movies ever made. Some enthusiasts even think Part II is better than the original, which is a bit much.

The Godfather Part II is definitely a great film, but it lacks the original’s bravura touches. There are no scenes like the Hollywood producer awakening with a horse’s head in his bed, the murder of Sonny at the tollbooth, or the baptism/assassination sequence. I’ll also comment on some script weaknesses. Finally, the three-hour, twenty-minute running time feels a bit padded.

Part II is both a sequel and prequel to The Godfather. It traces the rise of Vito Corleone and the fall of his son Michael.

The story begins in 1901. Vito Andolini is 9 years old when his father is killed by a local mafia boss, Don Ciccio. His older brother Paolo swears revenge and disappears into the hills. Shots ring out as the funeral procession passes. Vito’s mother finds Paolo dying. Later, she takes Vito to Don Ciccio to beg him to leave the boy alone. When the Don refuses, the mother pulls a knife and is shot. Vito flees for his life. Sympathizers send him to America, where he is given the name of his hometown, Corleone. The entire sequence is horrifying, but a nine-year-old orphan who survives the massacre of his whole family, moves to America on his own, and makes a life for himself definitely has a great deal of character.

Then the movie jumps to 1958. The stories of Vito and Michael Corleone are intercut throughout the movie, but I will discuss Vito’s story first.

After young Vito arrives in New York, we flash forward more than a decade, at which time the character is played by Robert De Niro. How does a man who has every reason to despise the mafia become a leading mafioso? Vito’s New York neighborhood is preyed upon by a swaggering, buffoonish, white-suited mafioso named Fanucci. At one point, Fanucci and a cousin show up at the grocery store where Vito works. The owner is told to hire the cousin (or else), so Vito is out of a job.

One reason that Sicily is backwards is this sort of clannishness. You can’t hire the best if you must hire within your family, or the family of the local bigshot. Beyond that, institutions can’t easily scale up past the size of a family, because people outside the family cannot be trusted. Despite corruption at the highest levels of American business and politics, America was never crippled by this sort of low-trust clannishness. Thus it was able to develop large scale, high-trust institutions.

Once he loses his job, Vito begins to steal with his friends Clemenza and Tessio. He wasn’t forced into it. He had no compunctions about it. When Don Fanucci demands a cut of their take, Vito pays him less than he demands. Fanucci admires his courage and says he will help Vito find more profitable scams. But instead of going into business with Fanucci, Vito kills him and assumes his role in the neighborhood.

Vito is depicted as a gallant defender of old ladies against predatory landlords, but you don’t build up a vast criminal empire that way. You do it with crime. Vito can do nice things for the community because people fear him. When Vito’s family grows to four children, and his “family” becomes big enough as a business, he returns to Sicily, where he avenges his father, mother, and brother by getting close to the elderly Don Ciccio and slicing open his stomach.

Marlon Brando’s depiction of Vito Corleone has genuine grandeur, but Robert De Niro’s depiction of the younger Vito does not really work for me. We are supposed to see Vito as not just a criminal, but also as a warm and wise patriarch. Yet, aside from a basic mammalian love of his own children, De Niro’s Vito comes off as merely a petty sadist and a smug, calculating hypocrite.

Flash forward to 1958. It is the first communion of Anthony Corleone, the son of Vito’s son Michael. Afterward, there is a party at the Corleone’s compound on the shores of Lake Tahoe. The Corleones have relocated to Nevada and invested heavily in casino gambling. It is part of Michael’s plan to make the family business “legitimate.”

The whole sequence is supposed to remind us of Connie’s wedding at the beginning of The Godfather, which is a nice device to show how much things have changed in twelve years and how much they have stayed the same. Both are large family (and “family”) gatherings centered around a Corleone child. At both gatherings, the head of the family conducts business.

But there are some big differences. In The Godfather, the politicians send their regards and gifts of money but decline to attend. It would be a bad look. In Part II, Nevada Senator Pat Geary attends, a sign that the Corleones are indeed more legitimate.

Another thing has changed: Geary does not stay away but send money. He shows up to collect money. First, he collects a very public donation to the University of Nevada in the name of Anthony Vito Corleone. When he accepts the check, he praises the Corleones to the skies but includes an old WASP put-down to the “ethnics”, mumbling his way through Anthony’s full name and pronouncing his surname “Corleon” in the most Anglo way possible.

Later, in private, Geary pronounces “Corleone” in an exaggeratedly foreign way, expresses contempt for the family and its business, then coolly tries to outdo them in corruption by shaking them down for a new casino license. The man certainly has balls. He might be lucky to keep them. Michael flatly refuses to bribe Geary. In fact, he insists that Geary put up the money for a new license. Geary angrily walks out.

Going legitimate is trickier than Michael thought. One of Michael’s lines is significant: “Senator, we’re both part of the same hypocrisy. But never think it applies to my family.” He’s willing to acknowledge that he is a rogue among rogues, but he does not want his family besmirched. This, of course, is naïve, because he can’t keep his family out of the family business. He’s doing everything “for the family.” Whenever he does something horrific, the euphemism is that he’s “being strong for the family.”

Beyond that, in business you need people you can trust. All the more so, when your business is crime. In the end, the people you can trust most are your family, so of course Michael will be driven again and again to involve his family in important deals. Sadly, though, Michael can’t trust his family either. In fact, he ends up killing some of them.

Later we see how Geary was brought to heel. He wakes up in a whorehouse run by Fredo Corleone next to a dead girl. The girl was butchered by one of the Corleone assassins, Al Neri. But Tom Hagen says that Geary killed her. Don’t worry, though, he is among friends. The Corleones will dispose of the body. She has no family. Nobody will miss her. Only their “friendship” will remain, i.e., Geary’s debt to the Corleones. And, of course, the Corleones would not be foolish enough to actually destroy all evidence of the crime, and Geary would know that. They now have leverage over him. It is absolutely coldblooded and foul. It shows that Michael’s quest for legitimacy is a complete sham. They’re a bunch of disgusting savages.

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Back at the party, Michael’s new political connections have priority over his old New York mob connections, who are represented by Frank Pentangeli, a gangster from Vito Corleone’s generation. Two incidents with Pentangeli illustrate how much things have changed with the Corleones.

First, there is the food. At the party in The Godfather, a couple young goombahs are salivating over Italian delicacies with names like “gabagool” and “gabagone.” In Part II, men in white coats are offering canapés. Pentangeli thinks they are saying “can of peas,” which strikes me as a lapse. Pentangeli would know what a canapé is. Of course, he could be playing the fool. But you should never play the fool. If you play it badly, you look like a buffoon. If you play it well, people just think you’re a fool.

Second, there is the music. In The Godfather, the Italian band plays tarantellas. We are even treated to an old man singing along and making obscene gestures. In Part II, the musicians play swing and the guests are serenaded by the Sierra Boys Choir. Pentangeli wants something earthier. But when the band try to play a tarantella, the closest they can get is “Pop Goes the Weasel,” which is genuinely hilarious.

Suffice it to say, Frankie Five Angels is feeling left out. He’s old, he’s tired, he’s been waiting a long time, he feels like he is not getting the respect he deserves, and by the time he sees Michael, he’s drunk and angry. When Vito’s old friend Peter Clemenza died, Michael instructed Pentangeli, his successor, to give three territories to some crooks named the Rosato brothers, who are associates of the Jewish gangster Hyman Roth. Pentangeli refused, which could cause trouble between Roth and Michael. Michael needs Roth’s help in taking over a new casino. Like Geary, Pentangeli leaves angry.

That night, two gunmen sneak onto the Corleone estate and try to kill Michael. They shoot through the window of his bedroom, where Kay is as well. Kay is also carrying their third child. The whole point of moving to Nevada was to avoid things like this. But it is even worse than the attempt to kill Vito Corleone or the successful assassination of Sonny, for these took place in public. This time, however, assassins have gotten inside the family compound. It is not just Michael who is in danger but his wife and children. It is an immense and humiliating reversal of fortune, which Michael seeks to set right with all his energy and cunning, to say nothing of whatever money or brutality is required.

Michael has two suspects: Frankie Five Angels and Hyman Roth himself. Why Roth? Roth was an old friend of Moe Greene (based on Bugsy Siegel), who was assassinated by Michael in order to take over his casino. (You know, to go legit.) Thus Michael flies off to see Roth in Florida, then he visits Pentangeli in New York. He tells Roth that he knows Pentangeli was behind the attack. He tells Pentangeli that Roth was behind the attack. Michael is clearly trying to lull the culprit into a false sense of security while he discovers his identity and plots his revenge.

Hyman Roth is based on a real-life Jewish gangster, Meyer Lansky. Lansky was a mafia pioneer in two areas: money laundering/offshore banking and constructing the American and Cuban casino gambling industries. In Cuba, he enjoyed state protection. At one point, he even changed the government, bribing President Carlos Prío Socarrás to step aside so that Fulgencio Batista could return to power in a military coup.

Roth is portrayed as living modestly, even though he has hundreds of millions of dollars. He is nebbishy, sickly, and undignified. He seems vulnerable not formidable. But these are proven techniques of camouflage, ways that predators lull people into a false sense of security. This is why the biggest Jewish gangster in the world today goes by the childish diminutive “Bibi.”

Roth is played by the legendary acting coach Lee Strasberg. It is the flattest, least compelling performance in the film.

When Pentangeli visits the Rosato brothers to make a deal, they try to kill him, saying “Michael Corleone says hello!” But they are interrupted when a cop walks in, so Pentangeli survives.

Is there any reason to think that Michael ordered this killing? After all, Pentangeli was cooperating with Michael. Michael had no proof that Pentangeli was behind the hit. Did Hyman Roth order Pentangeli killed as a favor to Michael? Why would he do that? To deflect attention from his own guilt? None of these questions are answered, so the whole thing feels arbitrary. This is another problem with the script.

A deeper problem with the script is Roth’s relationship to Michael. It becomes increasingly clear that Roth’s associate Johnny Ola somehow used Fredo Corleone to get his assassins inside the Corleone compound. It also becomes clear that Roth’s motive was to avenge the death of Moe Greene. Roth says that he wasn’t angry about Greene’s death, but he obviously was. He says that he accepted it, because this was the business he was in, but it becomes clear that he was willing to throw his business into chaos to get revenge.

If Roth wanted to kill Michael, he certainly would have done everything he could to make Michael trust him. But Roth goes far beyond that, outlining fantastic plans for the coming decades and naming Michael as his heir in front of his most important business associates. None of that is necessary if Michael is soon to be a dead man. So why did he do it?

The mid-point in the movie is set in the very last days of Batista’s Cuba. Michael is there with Roth and other mafia bigwigs. Fredo was to deliver two million dollars of Michael’s money to Roth in cash for a casino deal. Was Roth simply trying to bilk Michael out of money before killing him? If so, then why did he try killing him at Lake Tahoe, before any money could change hands?

You’d think that Lee Strasberg, Mr. Method Acting, would have asked Coppola and Puzo, “What’s Roth’s motive here?” It isn’t clear, so the whole thing feels arbitrary. But this is at the core of the story, so it is an important flaw in the script.

The scenes in Cuba are also a bit pedantic. In one scene, we see Batista sitting down with mining, sugar, fruit, and telecommunications magnates, as well as the mafia, to discuss business in Cuba and reassure them that the rebels, led by Fidel Castro, are no threat. There’s a similar scene at a birthday party for Hyman Roth. It is the sort of thing Oliver Stone would do, and do better.

When Fredo arrives in Havana, Michael tells him that the following night, on New Year’s Eve, he will be invited to a reception at the Presidential Palace. After the reception, he will be taken back to his hotel in a government car, at which point he will be assassinated. He tells Fredo that Roth is behind it and that he plans to kill Roth.

This scene is supposed to remind us of the scene in The Godfather where Vito warns Michael that, one day, he will be approached by a friend who will offer to provide security for a meeting with Don Barzini, and when he goes, he will be assassinated. Vito’s scenario, however, is formulated in general terms and is based on past experience with the mafia. Michael’s scenario is very specific. But where does he get such specific information? Does he have an inside source? Is he psychic? Is he paranoid? Again, I think this is a flaw of the script.

When Michael introduces Fredo to Johnny Ola, Johnny says that they have never met, and Fredo plays along. Later, Fredo lets it slip that he does know Johnny. At that point, Michael knows that Fredo was the insider who set him up.

The collapse of the Cuban government on New Year’s Eve, 1958, is very well-handled. Michael’s assassin manages to kill Johnny Ola but is killed before he can dispatch Roth.

When Michael returns to the US, he is told that Roth has escaped from Cuba, that Fredo has gone to ground (probably in New York), and that Kay has had a miscarriage.

At this point, the movie jumps to a Senate hearing on organized crime. It turns out that Frank Pentangeli is alive and in witness protection. He thinks that Michael tried to have him killed, so he is willing to testify against Michael. But Michael manages to intimidate Pentangeli into silence when he brings his brother from Sicily. He isn’t just there for moral suasion. He’s being paraded as a hostage.

Michael avoids an indictment, but then Kay informs him that she wishes to leave him and take the children. When Michael refuses, Kay says something unforgivable. Weak people can’t just walk away, even from a bad relationship, so they try to anger the other party, hoping to make it easier to leave. The nuclear option in this game is the “unforgivable” comment or deed. Kay is a master:

Michael, you are blind. It wasn’t a miscarriage—it was an abortion. An abortion Michael. Just like our marriage is an abortion. Something that’s unholy and evil. I didn’t want your son Michael—I wouldn’t bring another one of you sons into this world. It was an abortion, Michael. It was a son Michael, a son, and I had it killed, because this must all end. I know now that it’s over now—I knew it then—there would be no way Michael—no way you could ever forgive me. Not with this Sicilian thing that’s been going on for 2000 years.

First of all, what is the “all” that must end? Is it just their marriage? Or is it the mafia? She obviously thinks the mafia is evil and does not wish to perpetuate it. By aborting Michael’s son, she’s aborting the mafia. She’s aborting evil. Of course, she is already tied to Michael by two children. Aborting a third child doesn’t change that. Also, Kay is now a killer herself. So on what grounds does she feel superior to Michael? Of course abortions don’t have to make sense to happen all the time.

But did Kay actually have an abortion, or is she just saying she did? After the assassination attempt, there is a scene in which Michael’s security prevents Kay from leaving the compound in Lake Tahoe to go shopping. It is unclear how much time passed between Michael’s departure from Lake Tahoe and return from Cuba, when Tom tells him of the miscarriage. At most, it was a couple of weeks. Presumably, the protective measures had not changed. If Kay had been confined to home all that time, she obviously couldn’t have had an abortion. So maybe it really was a miscarriage, but she is saying it is an abortion because she knows this will lead to permanent break that she is too weak to make on her own. Kay leaves, but Michael retains custody of his children.

During the Senate hearing, Fredo resurfaced and tried to reconcile with Michael. He admits that he worked with Johnny Ola but claims he didn’t know he was out for blood. Fredo makes it clear that he was motivated by vanity and lack of loyalty to the family. Michael tells him that he never wants to see him again. He tells Al Neri that he doesn’t want anything to happen to Fredo while their mother is still alive.

Soon enough though, mamma Corleone is dead. Connie returns. She wants to stay to help Michael. She will also have to raise her own children, now that her mother and Kay are no longer around. She also tries to engineer a tearful reconciliation with Fredo. If this blow-by-blow is beginning to sound like a very long soap opera, that’s also how it plays on screen.

We are more than three hours in, and it is time to settle accounts. Hyman Roth has been on the run, but he’s being forced back to the United States, where he will be arrested by the feds. This presents a problem as well as an opportunity. Frank Pentangeli is still in federal custody. And vain, weak, stupid, traitorous Fredo is still part of the family. Michael wants them all dead.

Tom Hagen, as always, is risk and conflict averse. Why kill Roth, who is old, sick, and soon to be in federal custody? Obviously, because he is hostile and can do a lot of damage in federal custody. Which brings us to Frank Pentangeli, who can still do a lot of damage in federal custody as well. As for Fredo: he’s a loser who almost cost Michael his life and endangered the lives of his family. Michael can’t afford to keep him close, and he can’t afford to send him away. He needs Fredo dead, but how to square it with what remains of his family? Clearly, a little lying will do the trick.

Tom protests that killing Roth would be “like trying to kill the president—there’s no way we can get to him,” to which Michael replies, “Tom . . . you surprise me.” In the story, Kennedy had not yet been elected, much less killed, but to the audience, it was a fairly fresh memory. Tom says, “. . . you’ve won. Do you have to wipe everyone out?” Michael replies flatly, “Not everyone . . . just my enemies.”

Michael’s loyal assassin Rocco kills Roth at the Miami Airport and is immediately gunned down. Tom, being a lawyer, finagles a visit to Frankie Five Angels in federal custody. They reminisce about how the Corleones used to model themselves on the ancient Romans. Indeed, the Corleones’ intrigues, power struggles, and murders—including murders of their own family members—read like Suetonius. This becomes especially important in Part III. Tom reminds Frankie that in Rome, defeated rebels would commit suicide to ensure the safety of their families. Frankie takes the hint and cuts his wrists in the bath. Finally, Al Neri takes Fredo fishing on Lake Tahoe and shoots him in the head. Later we infer he was dumped in the lake and the whole thing was passed off as an accident. Sometimes the fishes catch you.

Unlike the highly aestheticized massacre at the end of The Godfather, the killings at the end of Part II are all too grimly routine. There’s no pleasure in it for us. There’s no pleasure in it for Michael either. Just the prospect of decades of morose rumination on how, by “being strong for his family,” he lost his family in the end.

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25 comments

  1. Fred C. Dobbs says:
    January 27, 2025 at 4:53 pm

    Excellent review. In my opinion the best of the three movies.
    An off topic question, where has Jim Goad been?

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      January 27, 2025 at 5:31 pm

      Jim is settling in to a new state. He’ll be back. He’ll be glad to know he is missed.

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    2. AdamMil says:
      January 28, 2025 at 2:05 am

      Recent weeks have been so good that there’s been no need for his “The Worst Week Yet” column. But fear not, the honeymoon will soon be over…

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  2. DM says:
    January 27, 2025 at 5:08 pm

    At least Carlo got his comeuppance. His and Don Fanucci’s deaths were very satisfying. There was no need to arrange for Pentangeli’s death. He thought Michael had put a contract out on him and agreed to testify at the Senate subcommittee hearings. Then, when Michael produced the brother, Pentangeli recanted and perjured himself. He went to prison and was out of the way. I suppose this, together with Fredo’s killing, serves to underscore Michael’s ruthlessness and cold-heartedness. He was tying up loose ends. But Mr. Lynch’s review shows that the script is where the most loose ends can be found.

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      January 27, 2025 at 5:46 pm

      I agree that Pentangeli was the least necessary death. He was a likeable old man. Michael Gazzo’s performance was memorable.

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      1. Vegetius says:
        February 28, 2025 at 3:39 am

        I don’t know why but I thought the best part of the movie was right before the bit about Canapés, when Frankie was drinking out of the garden hose, spotted a familiar face, and then lurching towards the bandstand yelled “Fredo you sonofabitch, you look great!”

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  3. Uncle Semantic says:
    January 27, 2025 at 6:13 pm

    Al Pacino’s performances never cease to amaze me though I’m not a fan of mafia movies. Same elite acting tier as Gary Oldman, Jack, and Meryl. And I believe all of John Cazale’s movies was nominated for an oscar in his short career. De niro I’ve written off, James Gandolfini had one of the greatest performances in tv history, Paul Giamatti who should have won best actor for Sideways is a very underrated talent, and fellow NY guinea Joe Pesci can either be the funniest (Leo Getz) or the scariest character on screen.

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    1. Stronza says:
      January 27, 2025 at 8:54 pm

      Al Pacino’s performances never cease to amaze me though I’m not a fan of mafia movies.

      Uncle Semantic:  I do not know if you have ever seen the movie “Mafioso” but it may cause you to conclude that not all mafia movies are bad.   I can’t get enough of it, even though I have a hatred for mafiosi and generally speaking,  after a while, immorality and violence in films are tiresome.  But there is much in this film which has nothing to do with the mafia as such – it has been described as black comedy. Alberto Sordi is the star, so that should tell you something.

      I have found only 7 or 8 films worth my time and trouble, and this is one of them.  JMO.  I’m hardly an expert.

       

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  4. BC says:
    January 27, 2025 at 7:28 pm

    Yes, I agree GF 2 is long trudge. I mark this film for the point I hit mafioso fatigue. That said, it is a very good movie and miles ahead of the trash Hollywood cranks out today. The John Cazale scene when Fredo melts down is one of the cinema classics. But my favorite of 1974 was Chinatown. I still like to watch Chinatown every couple years, yet have never re-watched GF2.

    1974 was peak FF Coppola – GF2 best motion picture Oscar. Writer and director for The Conversation, and best screenplay Oscar for The Great Gatsby. To participate, at a high level, in 3 first class films in one year is indeed a noble achievement. Also one hellava Lucky Streak.

    Thanks for the excellent movie review!

     

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  5. Traddles says:
    January 27, 2025 at 8:29 pm

    Thanks for this review.  I’ve watched Part II a few times, and I’m glad to know that I wasn’t the only one who had trouble following some aspects of the story!  Some classic movies are notorious for complex or unintelligible plots, such as The Big Sleep, but they can still be enjoyed if the viewer just rides along.  Here, those script flaws distracted me more.

    I agree that Part II has greatness.   For me, the best elements are Pentangeli, and the moodiness–leaves blowing as Rota’s music plays, etc.  Cazale, Duvall, and a lot of the minor players impressed me.  I almost always find Diane Keaton very annoying, but I suppose here it’s intentional.  And while Pacino is impressive, he doesn’t evoke much sympathy in me.

    I can appreciate and even enjoy a few movies that are relentlessly grim and dark, such as The Night Porter and Danton, and I think the moodiness and craftsmanship of Part II is what kept me watching, but it wasn’t enough to inspire a love for the movie in me.

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  6. AdamMil says:
    January 28, 2025 at 2:11 am

    The review contains a laundry list of flaws and maybe that’s fair. (I haven’t seen the movie in decades.) But unlike part one with its philosophical musings, this seemed to be “just” a movie review. Perhaps in this respect the reviews will mirror the films…

    So many flaws and yet the third movie is considered to be even worse. But you’ve said that it’s your favorite. I’ll be interested to read the next installment!

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      January 28, 2025 at 2:54 am

      All the big issues are set out in the first film, so it makes sense to discuss them there.

      An important new theme in the third movie is broached in the second: Rome, specifically pagan Rome.

       

       

       

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      1. NORTH says:
        January 28, 2025 at 5:30 pm

        “Ancient Rome” never existed, nor did most of the rest of the so-called “ancient civilizations”.

        Most history before the Middle Ages is made up.

        In any case, civilization started in the North and then spread South, East and West.

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        1. Malaparte says:
          January 28, 2025 at 9:07 pm

          Sources?

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          1. NORTH says:
            January 28, 2025 at 11:03 pm

            CC has yet to post my first article.

            Baby steps…

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          2. Greg Johnson says:
            January 29, 2025 at 1:27 pm

            Have you written an article?

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          3. FF says:
            January 30, 2025 at 4:46 pm

            Sources?

             

            The articles by First Millenium Revisionist and Laurent Guyenot on unz.com make the case that much of Roman history is in reality Byzantine history. Many other authors and historians have written similarly and the articles on unz.com are an excellent primer to this topic.

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          February 27, 2025 at 7:45 pm

          You know I have to agree with you, as far as I know the white race is the only race that cares about history. If we go under, the other races will barely notice as they scramble to fill the void. There won’t be any of this, “Well I wonder what happened to them? Lets try to figure it out!”

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    2. Stronza says:
      February 27, 2025 at 8:58 pm

      @FF:  “The articles by First Millenium Revisionist and Laurent Guyenot on unz.com make the case that much of Roman history is in reality Byzantine history.”

      Thank you v. much for the above info.  Yet more reading…

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  7. ArcticHare says:
    January 29, 2025 at 4:54 pm

    (Reply to Greg Johnson) January 29, 2025 at 1:27 pm Have you written an article?

    Yes, if one wants to follow the white rabbit…

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  8. Richard Chance says:
    January 29, 2025 at 11:19 pm

    GF II definitely had some editing mistakes that make it harder to follow then the first, and yes, I agree, not all of the casting choices make sense.  I believe this was Deniro’s first big role (he was in Scorsese’s Mean Streets a year earlier, but that one is nowhere near as well known), but he was somewhat miscast in this.  Also, I thought Bruno Kirby came off kinda clownish as a young (and skinny) Clemenza.

    Some of the editing actually makes a huge difference to the viewer’s understanding of the film.  The best example of that is the character of Fanucci.  It never made sense to me that Vito would kill Fanucci, but never suffer any consequences as a result.  Fanucci was, supposedly, a mid-level enforcer at best.  Any action taken against him would have at the very least resulted in him being replaced by another thug, if not certain revenge against Vito for causing the big boss to lose face.  But, at least as far as we are told, nothing ever happened to Vito.  He just sort of became the boss himself.  Well, recently, I saw a Youtube video which shows some previously cut footage which basically reveals that Fanucci was a fraud and not involved with the mafia at all and THAT’s why Vito knew he could kill him and get away with it.  Vito figures this out when he sees some kids beating Fanucci in the streets and Fanucci doing nothing about it.  I’m not sure what the rules are at cc about linking Youtube videos so I won’t do it, but by all means, if you’re a fan of the series, do a search for this video and see for yourself.

    I will say, I somewhat disagree with the notion that the end of II is overly dark.  I think the main story of this series is a once bright-eyed and promising young man losing his soul to violence and treachery.  The “Godfather” of the title refers to Michael, not to Vito.  You really see this more in GF III, especially the alternate ending released a few years ago (which I definitely prefer over the original ending), but the first dead give away of it is the scene referenced in this article, where Michael orders the cold-blooded murder of a prostitute for the purpose of framing his WASPy enemy Senator Geary.

    Great essay, I really look forward to reading Trevor Lynch’s thoughts on the most underrated film in the trilogy.

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  9. Stronza says:
    January 30, 2025 at 12:52 am

    Sure would like to read the review of GF II but I don’t have $120.   In any case, that film irritated me this way and that (tho it’s hardly a dud; it is a good story).   GF I + GF III are better, though the ending of #1 has a hurried, where-do-we-go-from-here feeling.   It’s like they knew a Godfather II could not help but be much anticipated and financially successful.

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  10. A.B. says:
    March 2, 2025 at 6:36 am

    Have you seen the re-edit that combines parts I and II in chronological order? It was originally released on American TV in the early 1980s as the Godfather Saga, and much later as The Complete Epic.

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    1. Stronza says:
      March 2, 2025 at 7:43 pm

      I know you weren’t talking to me but I have seen that chronologically-correct version.  As I remember, there was some new material in there which originally never showed up in GF I or GF II. Something about Michael beating up a woman something terrible where her face was badly damaged  and she had to be hospitalized.  IIRC.

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  11. Douglas Mercer says:
    March 2, 2025 at 8:12 pm

    In the opening of Part One the wedding scene is fully Italian, it has dancing and singing from the Old Country, is festive and is a celebration of ethnic heritage.   In Part two there is another party scene where generic swing movie is being played, and Pantangeli is outraged that out of thirty professional musicians there is not one Italian.  He tries to coax them into playing an Italian song but after a few notes it is apparent that they don’t know it and the band breaks into Pop Goes The Weasel.   The juxtaposition of these two scenes is an excellent metaphor of how over time in America ethnicity gets bleached out.

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Writer & Article of the Month May 2026

Voting for this month has concluded. Here are the final results!

Top Writers

  • #1 Morris van de Camp 2 votes
  • #2 David M. Zsutty 2 votes
  • #3 Derek Stark 2 votes
  • #4 Jayant Bhandari 2 votes
  • #5 Greg Johnson 2 votes
  • #6 Jared Taylor 1 vote
  • #7 Collin Cleary 1 vote
  • #8 Spencer J. Quinn 1 vote
  • #9 Mark Gullick 1 vote
  • #10 Lipton Matthews 1 vote
  • #11 Keith Woods 1 vote
  • #12 Steven Tucker 1 vote

Top Articles

  • #1 The Lunch Wars 2 votes
  • #2 Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One 2 votes
  • #3 Predation Wearing the Mask of Civilization 1 vote
  • #4 Peak Fatigue in Fort Wayne 1 vote
  • #5 Keith Wood's Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire 1 vote
  • #6 Do You Want to Play a Game? 1 vote
  • #7 Why Billionaires Should Fund White Identity Politics 1 vote
  • #8 The 1970s: The Golden Age of Hijacking 1 vote
  • #9 True Folk-Horror Is Horror of Your Own Folk 1 vote
  • #10 Finding Atlantis Part 4 1 vote
  • #11 Berlin: City of Stones 1 vote
  • #12 The Ghost of the Confederacy 1 vote
  • #13 Lothrop Stoddard’s The Revolt Against Civilization 1 vote
  • #14 Could Fascism Work? 1 vote
  • #15 Jared Taylor's Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire 1 vote

Total votes cast: 17

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