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Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 527
Machiavellianism & More
Counter-Currents Radio
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Greg Johnson welcomed Pox Populi (Telegram, YouTube) and American Krogan (Substack, Telegram) back to the latest broadcast of Counter-Currents Radio, where they discussed Machiavellianism, populism, and how we can red-pill normies, among other topics, and it is now available for download and online listening. We recommend looking at Greg Johnson’s “The Machiavellian Method,” “Neema Parvini’s The Populist Delusion,” and “The Moral Factor,” Part 1 before listening.
00:00:00 American Krogan is ethnically cleansing Fallout Four
00:03:34 Enter Pox Populii
00:05:03 On Machiavellianism
00:06:47 Neema Parvini’s The Populist Delusion
00:15:41 Defining Machiavellianism
00:17:28 Does ideology matter?
00:29:58 Machiavellianism and bourgeois self-interest
00:37:54 On the idea that we shouldn’t bother red-pilling normies
00:40:26 On skinheads, wignats, and politics as therapy
00:45:26 Who is Counter-Current‘s readership?
00:53:50 What if we’re not allowed to win?
00:56:55 Why we should present moral arguments
01:04:52 Who is your favorite Irishman of all time?
01:09:47 Should we welcome censorship?
01:12:39 Are creative people more Left-wing?
01:19:35 Isn’t Machiavellianism useful for analysis and management?
01:20:59 On the relationship between high standards and tolerance
01:28:05 Should we have contract workers with no citizenship?
01:38:28 To what degree is Machiavellianism legitimate within the White Nationalist movement?
01:47:58 Should we genetically engineer people to become more attractive?
02:08:19 Leftist “miserabilism”
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2 comments
That was a good show. Burnhams book is one of my favorite political treatises.
I have a question for the brain trust. Why do you guys think so many of the guys the Js are after have sexual abnormalities, ie are gay or closely related traits? 50% by some estimates. If you could answer in so many words down the line maybe.
George Orwell points out in 1984 that what counts is the morale of the ruling elites (*). The elites must believe that their values are correct in order to justify their seizure of power and suppression of dissent. Effectively, “woke” values (or ideology) are the rationale for the imposition of totalitarian state policies.
Thus, even while dominating the major instruments of social control (bureaucracy, media, academia, IT, federal law enforcement, big money foundations), your average wokester is convinced that they are engaged in a perpetual revolution against “systemic racism” or “White supremacy” or “insurrectionists” or whatever provides the justification for censorship, malicious prosecutions, Maoist style struggle sessions, mob violence against political opponents, and the rewriting of history to conform to current regime diktats.
This is why mainstream conservatives do not make real gains. Go to many conservative websites and you will see proclaimed their vaunted Statements of Principles. These principles invariably sound like slogans from a Chamber of Commerce speech out of the mid-20th century.
For example, there’s the conservative commitment to “limited” or “small” government. But what exactly does that mean? Slashing, say, the Pentagon budget by 50%? Eliminating the civil rights/equal opportunity/equity commissariat? There’s been some talk about defunding the FBI, but nothing serious has come of this.
More fundamentally, they have little clue as to how to gain power other than by voting for real conservatives. Civil disobedience, lawfare, de-platformings, targeted prosecutions, establishing temporary autonomous zones, and (especially!) White identity politics would violate those conservative principles.
Values minus Machiavellianism are a dead end.
Values plus Machiavellianism are a winning formula
One thing which has made the Dissident Right effective is that it has become (as noted) the counter-culture. It has both values centered on White nationalism and a fairly effective understanding of tactics, especially on the fronts of virtual networks and the occasional act of guerrilla street theater.
Consider the panic among regime elites over Dissident Right memes (Pepe, Soyjacks). There is no similar panic over conservatives who endlessly enumerate their principles but take no actions to threaten elite ideological hegemony. What counts here is that the Dissident Right not only refuses regime values, but actively mocks them, whether online or in the streets.
Machiavelli, honorary prime minister of Kekistan.
(*) 1984, part II, chapter 9, in chapter III of The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism. Orwell was, apparently, inspired by Burnham’s Managerial Revolution in writing this book within the book.
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