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Wignat Whexit:
Why “Punishing” the Republicans Won’t Change Them

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In 2016, Donald Trump ran as a populist and won. In 2020, his bid for re-election followed the standard Republican playbook. There was a lot of talk about the stock market, very little populist talk about immigration, globalization, and protectionism. There was a good deal of conservative culture war rhetoric to mobilize patriots and evangelicals. Finally, there was a huge amount of pandering to blacks, Jews, Hispanics, Asians, and homosexuals: identity politics for everyone but whites. But Trump’s white base — especially the white, working-class swing voters who put him over the top in the Midwest — were basically taken for granted.

For race-conscious whites, it was infuriating. Naturally, a lot of us decided that maybe we should sit this election out and show Trump that we are not going to be taken for granted. The Republicans are going to have to engage in white identity politics if they are to get white votes. Maybe if we tank Trump’s reelection and deliver the Senate to the Democrats as well, they’ll finally take us seriously. Time for a Whexit.

“Whexit” means “white exit.” But I am speaking specifically of a Whexit of racially-conscious whites, /ourguys/. This idea is being especially championed in wignat quarters of the movement. “Wignat” stands for “wigger nationalist” and refers to White Nationalists who are handicapped by low IQs and high time preferences. Of course not every White Nationalist who thinks this way is a wignat, but there’s a strong correlation.

Is a White Nationalist Whexit going to work?

Probably not. First, such a Whexit is based on a false understanding of Republican motives. Second, it is based on a superficial understanding of human psychology. Finally, it is based on delusions about the size and power of the racially-conscious white community.

Why do Republicans pander to non-whites but scrupulously avoid addressing specifically white interests? The moral consensus in America today is that racism is the worst thing in the world, but only for white people. Republicans follow that code to the letter, hence they are willing to appeal to the identities and collective interest of Jews, blacks, and other groups, but they will never explicitly address the identity and interests of whites. In our case, the best we can hope for is that our identity and interests will be subsumed under the national interest or the rights of mankind as a whole.

Does this help the Republicans at the polls? Yes. Does it gain them minority votes? Probably a few, and in close races, even a shift of a fraction of a percent of non-white votes can put Republicans over the top.

But wouldn’t Republicans gain even more votes if they followed the Sailer strategy and just focused on increasing their share of the white vote, perhaps by making explicit appeals to white identity politics?

You can buy Greg Johnson’s White Identity Politics here.

The Republicans obviously think not. Why? The moral consensus in America today is that racism is the worst possible thing, but only for whites. Thus it is enormously important for one’s reputation to demonstrate that one is not a racist. That is why Republicans both pander to non-whites and scrupulously avoid explicit appeals to white interests.

Republicans believe that if they don’t pander to minorities, they will lose more white votes than they would gain. Republicans, moreover, believe that if they explicitly appeal to white interests, they will also lose more white votes than they will gain. It’s all about the white vote in the end.

Republicans probably also think that a visible Whexit of race-conscious whites would help their reputation and boost their support among white normies. Indeed, there was probably rejoicing at Trump campaign headquarters when Richard Spencer endorsed Joe Biden. Republicans don’t want the support of racist whites. They probably think that the Alt-Right cost Trump more votes than it gained him, both by turning off Republicans and energizing the Left. You know damn well that’s what Republican campaign strategists told Trump. They might have even told the truth.

For the sake of argument, however, let’s consider the possibility that a Whexit might actually hurt the Republicans. If we really can hurt them, won’t that change their calculations? People, after all, learn from suffering. That’s why we spank naughty children.

But human psychology is more complicated than that, particularly when morality gets involved. If people merely acted out of rational self-interest, then a race-conscious Whexit might indeed change Republican calculations in future elections.

But this argument leaves out the whole reason we are in this situation in the first place: the moral consensus that appealing to white ethnic interests, and only white ethnic interests, is simply evil. Normie Republicans regard us as evil. They would rather lose without us than win with us. Simply hurting them will not change their minds, because people will put up with quite a lot of suffering if they think it is moral.

Obviously, the only way to change Republican behavior is to attack the anti-racist moral consensus that lies behind it. But changing the moral consensus of society is a metapolitical task, not a political one. Until anti-white racism loses moral power, racially-conscious whites will not gain political power.

Talk of a race-conscious Whexit seems to be premised on the claim that “the Alt-Right memed Trump into the White House.” If we managed to elect Trump, they reason, then we can also defeat him.

This argument is a tissue of delusion and puffery. The proper response came from Innsmouth Elle Reeve when she told Richard Spencer, “I think you’re a fraud.” The claim we put Trump in the White House is not based on any factual analysis of the electorate or the actual election results. We don’t know how many White Nationalists are out there, where they are located, or how politically active they are. We are an unknown quantity, so the Republicans can hardly factor us into their calculations.

But they can very plausibly claim that we were a net detriment to Trump because we turned off some Republicans and energized Democrats to vote against him. They may even have data to support it. Until we do actual studies of the electorate, we cannot refute them or make any plausible claims about our electoral clout. And, even if we could, the Republicans would still prefer to lose without us rather than win with us.

The only thing that will change that is a moral revolution. Until then, all white political organizing will be impeded by a gale-force moral headwind, and wignat talk of Whexit is just spitting into it.

Race-conscious whites are not going to change Republican voting patterns by staying at home and pretending they are “exercising power.” Again, we are not going to gain political power without overthrowing the moral consensus that white racism, and only white racism, is the wickedest thing in the world. That’s a metapolitical task. It requires changing people’s minds. It is an educational project, which requires that we stay online and able to reach the public.

This is why online freedom is under attack from Leftist-controlled corporations. But we still have the first amendment. Trump should have done something about tech censorship years ago. He has made some efforts to protect online freedom, but too little too late. It could cost him the election. If Biden is elected, however, we can expect erosion of the first amendment and no relief on tech censorship. This is one of the main reasons why it is crucially important for White Nationalists to re-elect Trump.

The other crucial reason is that Trump has slowed white demographic decline, which buys us time. We need to convert anti-whites to pro-whites. If we can get enough people on our side, we can save our race in America. Trump gives us more time to do that, while Biden will speed up the Great Replacement by opening the borders and putting tens of millions of illegals on the path to citizenship and voting. The goal of the Left is to make any form of white populist resistance electorally impossible. Racially aware whites would have to be stupid, crazy, or evil to support that.

Don’t be a chump. Vote Trump.

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  1. ronehjr
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 8:10 am | Permalink

    Maybe understanding the psychology of the people you call wignats might actually help you inflkuence them, instead of calling them names. But when have White nationalist ever tried to be on the same side. It’s much more fun just to call each other names and disparage their intellect and character. Nice job.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted November 3, 2020 at 8:15 am | Permalink

      They embrace the slur, so why should I hesitate to use it?

    • Andrew
      Posted November 3, 2020 at 10:58 am | Permalink

      We understand their psychology, that’s why the alt-right isn’t a thing anymore and has rightfully been boiled down to Spencer and few hundred twitter accounts.
      Blackpilling and lacking patience are the main things they offer, going as far as begging for their own homelands to collapse and shilling for “le based” muslims. They can cry all they want about calling them names as far as I care.

    • Hhh
      Posted November 6, 2020 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

      You are giving the facade of wage employment too much credit. How many establishment repubs cry about black unemployment at night, much less kamela harris?
      Everybody knows its crap but it’s difficult to hold on the a paycheck in this country. Online influencers don’t need to change minds, they just have to change discourse. This is why the overton window was being bandied about by j media shows, like the one where spencer was punched by a black character.

  2. Ryan
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    I would say that attacking people to the Right of you runs counter to the metapolitical task of destigmatizing white advocacy. Explain to me how calling fellow WNs low IQ or branding them with a class prejudiced appellation like wigger doesn’t further demonize our ideas.

    These four years under Trump have obviously seen race realism and white advocacy more demonized and targeted than ever before. Frankly, much of the blame for that is owed to those nominally on the Right who spent more breath and energy on criticizing Charlottesville than on anything else. Look at how the Left responds to far more violent, far more deadly, far less organized political protests. They win in large part because they don’t have half of the movement caring more about respectability than results.

    Four years ago, Counter-Currents could easily sell books and be found with a Google search. WN ideas were accessible from YouTube and donations could be made via PayPal. We had hundreds more touchstones in the American consciousness in the form of statues and media portrayals. Back then, the Trump campaign was dogwhistling to us as hard as it could – today it has put out a video bragging about how many times he’s denounced us and our ideas.There are hundreds of thousands more non-whites in the country now than there were in 2016 and deportations have been slower than they were under Obama. He’s patched up a few miles of fence, though, so I guess that means he’s delaying the Great Replacement.

    You’re hard pressed to argue that this would have been worse under Clinton. There’s no reason to support Biden, but I find no compelling evidence that this trajectory will change under four more years of Trump. You may be right that nothing is gained from sitting out the election, but nothing is lost either.

    Our power is so limited in American politics that WNs are mere spectators to the process. I agree that we have to focus on metapolitics, but it’s hard to recruit when you can’t point to any tangible wins. It’s even harder when so many people who claim to be part of the movement are really just edgy Republicans engaged in a marginally further Right form of the same gatekeeping practiced by CPAC.

    If you think supporting Trump is the best course, argue it. I’m sure a case for that can be made. But this sort of vendetta against the more militant wing of the movement is embarrassing, childish, and detrimental to the overall cause.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted November 3, 2020 at 10:44 am | Permalink

      1. Criticizing people on the Right with bad ideas is a necessary part of metapolitics.

      2. Wignats embrace the slur, so I have no hesitation about using it.

      3. The censorship and deplatforming we have faced happened because the establishment became scared of us. That’s a positive sign. We were never going to win without opposition. I don’t want to go back to being safely irrelevant. We can only go forward and win. There is no way out but through to victory.

      4. Trump has slowed the rate of immigration, legal and illegal. He has also dramatically cut refugee resettlement. There has been real progress on the border wall. All of that has slowed our demographic decline. That gives us time. We have to do the rest.

      5. Plenty is lost if Biden wins: He will reverse Trump’s immigration gains, as well as attack the first and second amendments. That takes away time and freedom, which we need to operate.

      6. If you are tired of being a spectator, do what is in your power. Vote Trump.

      7. I’ve already argued my case.

    • AlexW
      Posted November 3, 2020 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

      Explain to me how calling fellow WNs low IQ or branding them with a class prejudiced appellation like wigger doesn’t further demonize our ideas.

      Americans have a hard time with this but the blunt truth is that class is real and it matters. Every successful ethno-nationalist movement in history has been led by members of the middle class and lower upper class. They’re the people that we need to win over first before we can shift to winning over the masses.

      Really, the historic NSDAP provides a pretty decent template of how to do this. You win over some smart and tough guys first and then focus on making sure the poor Whites know you will care for them and help them – but that whigger tier behavior is not acceptable. The best poor Whites will understand why high standards exist and will support that type of movement.

      . There’s no reason to support Biden, but I find no compelling evidence that this trajectory will change under four more years of Trump. You may be right that nothing is gained from sitting out the election, but nothing is lost either.

      You have to look at this from the perspective of Leftists. To them, Trump is a populist racist who is one bad day away from saying something really out of line. This means that they feel great anxiety with him in office and, the longer he is in office, the more they will continue to self-ghettoize.

      Trump isn’t /ourguy/ but I know plenty of Leftists who do not understand that. This is why he is such a useful battering ram against the system. He is causing Leftists to lash out at normie Republicans and this in turn leads those normies to sympathize with us.

  3. HamburgerToday
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    I think Dr. Johnson’s argument hinges on the assumption that withholding the ‘Wignat vote’ isn’t metapolitics. I think it is. It’s just ‘metapolitics of the deed’ instead of ‘metapolitics of the symbol’.

    I don’t think Dr. Johnson believes the ‘Wignat vote’ makes a difference one way or another on the election. He doesn’t think there’s enough Wignats to make a difference. If that’s the case, then Wignats withholding or delivering their vote is irrelevant to the election but it might make a difference to Wignats, who, after all, are in the WN camp just as much as Dr. Johnson.

    If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, did it fall?

    Yes, it did.

    I’m a Whexit Wignat. I didn’t’ vote for Trump (or any other Presidential candidate).

    I didn’t do it it out of spite or because I want to hurt the GOP or ‘send them a message’.

    I didn’t vote for Trump because as a White North American he didn’t earn my vote.

    But, maybe that’s just an old-fashioned way of looking at things.

    • Andrew
      Posted November 3, 2020 at 10:40 am | Permalink

      Yes, you gave our enemies percentage advance in the votes.
      Yes, it’s an old-fashioned loser way of thinking.

      • HamburgerToday
        Posted November 4, 2020 at 7:33 am | Permalink

        North American Whites have been voting in elections for decades without their policy choices being represented at all. So, your enthusiasm for voting is perplexing. The fact that you try to shame me for my position tells me that you don’t know how to argue for your position and prefer to resort to ad hominem than make the effort. My position is clear and articulated. Your ‘position’ amounts to a temper-tantrum. If you want to be part of the solution, you’ll need to make more effort.

    • GC
      Posted November 3, 2020 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

      As is often the case, I concur with you. I also genuinely believe that we will not see any resistance of significant import until things become far worse than they are; in other words, only a quasi-totalitarian Leftist Administration would have the chance of bringing about resistance. While President Trump sits in the White House, the average white patriot is complacent in the thought that we are still somehow in control. Does this mean that I want a Harris presidency? Of course not. But at this point, I’m convinced that that is what it will take to finally spur the pushback. If there is still no resistance, there wouldn’t have been anyways.

      The idea that a Trump re-election “buys more time” is certainly not without great merit, but there is equal evidence against it. Have we forgotten who the President was for the past year, as a fake “pandemic” was used to reduce the middle class to penury and abrogate what little civil liberties we yet retain? Have we forgotten that Donald Trump is the man who cowered in the White House bunker as shoeless negroids and black bloc Jews rioted? Donald Trump will not save us. His DOJ prosecutes white dissidents vigorously. While this will certainly accelerate with a Leftist regime, the fact remains that we are within an ever-tightening noose. Even if the President is not deposed by massive election fraud and the rest of the Color Revolution that has planned for four years, even if he is not removed from office for “refusing to leave office” after the power centers declare that he has lost, how much time do we gain? Weeks? Months?

      The Left appears poised for an extreme acceleration of violence against White America, whether in triumph or in rage. We cannot now dam this hurricane, but should rather focus on what comes next. For right now, I fear that we must watch and wait as opportunities arise; that is the key, to view the disintegration of our Nation as an opportunity that scarcely comes ’round once in a century. This is not defeatism or fatalism, but rather an acknowledgement of the fact that we are overwhelmed. We will prevail; of this, I have no doubt. I am not suggesting that we do or do not vote for Trump, or that we should sit back and do nothing, but rather that we must be realistic in the fact that the coming storm is bearing down upon us with or without Donald Trump in the White House.

      He certainly does not deserve our vote, in any case. In the voting booth, however, I could not bring myself to not vote for him. So I cast my vote, not from the fervor that I felt in 2016, or from the absurd “lesser of two evils” argument, but from the fact that I, some may say naively, wanted to do what is best for our people for the present moment. With that, perhaps every single second of time that we buy for ourselves is something worth fighting for.

      • HamburgerToday
        Posted November 4, 2020 at 8:07 am | Permalink

        Voting is an entirely symbolic act. In many decades of observing elections, I’ve never seen ‘the will of the common people’ turned into policy no matter who got elected. In the 1990s Whites (and others) realized that endless, unfettered immigration into California was a problem. They tried to stop it with Proposition 187. After winning at the polls, a (Jewish) judge overruled everyone (including Hispanics and Blacks) who voted for it. Voting doesn’t matter. Passing laws doesn’t matter. If ‘the system’ doesn’t like the result, the result is tossed out. This has been true for a long time, at least as long as I have lived. Sometimes, the enemies of White Order have a setback, but it’s never permanent and its never for long.

        Proposition 187 was a exercise in White resistance, within the system that was a complete waste of time and resulted in nothing but demoralization.

        Even Capuchin monkeys know the difference between fair and unfair.

        And that is where, I believe, the energy for a ‘movement’ that energize Whites will come from, not ‘White Nationalism’ or ‘White Power’ or ‘White Solidarity’ (all of which are things I believe in to a greater or lesser extent).

    • Sage
      Posted November 3, 2020 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

      But just imagine all thhe people you hate faces when Trump gets re-elected.

  4. Overit
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 9:30 am | Permalink


    Implicit white nationalism is all we can really muster amongst normies. This only exists among Republican normies and Libertarians. Nothing has changed since 2016 in that regard.

    Nothing, except the fact that I know FAR more normies who are wiling to openly challenge such antiwhite concepts as “white privilege” and “systematic racism”. It is remarkable what I’m hearing among friends and family that they wouldn’t have dared utter during Obama’s presidency.

    What we are doing is working. Not voting for Trump is foolishness.

  5. Buttercup
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    I used to favour the Wignat position on the logic that withholding the Wignat vote to force R’s to make electoral concessions to whites was a viable strategy, and also that voting legitimises Trump’s anti-white Republican platform. If we’re going to be oppressed by a uniparty with two wings, the least one can do is not vote for them.

    However, I have since changed my mind and am pro-Trump. The reason is that allowing the Dems into power would be a democratic mandate, however shakey, for amnesty and full bore anti-white racism. Re-instating Trump would be a rebuffal of this. On the whole, anti-white policies that have gone through under the Trump adminstration have at least be packaged in an an American flag and implicitly pro-White marketing. Where Trump has failed or not bothered, he has at least had to publicly attempt to seen to be doing something. If the Dems were to win, they would do everything in their power to simply import and install their permanent brown majority and probably dispense with the Electoral College to boot.

    Trump’s cynical strategy of allowing America to burn with the ambition of driving votes towards him (or out of sheer apathy) has been reprehensible. The murders of Jay Bishop, Lee Keltner
    and many others can be laid at his feet for his unwillingness to act. However, as a consequence, the mainstream normiecon and even many leftists are much further down the road of seeing how insane and bloodthirsty the Left really is. Perhaps if Trump had been the Wignat Dream and offered anything more than token resistance or pure passivity, the Left would not be going full mask off. The end result of anti-white racism from the neoliberal Dems is captured on video with the aforementioned murders and attempted murder of Kyle Rittenhouse.

    Trump has been a terrible president, and has made far too many failures and concessions, and at other times simply not bothered. But with him the in white house it is harder for anti-white policies to be enacted. Voting him back in is holding the line against anti-whites at the ballot box. Even a Trump amnesty would be watered down and less intense than a Biden one.

    Dems want to destroy White Americans along with America as a whole. Lets not make it easy for them. If you can, while there’s time, vote Trump.

  6. MBlanc46
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    Vote for Trump. He won’t do much for us, but he won’t do nearly as much against us as Biden/Harris will. We don’t have to make the Repubs an irrelevance. They are making themselves an irrelevance. In the not-too-distant future, we’ll be in a position to see what, if anything, can be salvaged from the ruins of the Republican Party..

  7. c matt
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Withholding the WN vote might have made sense with say, the Bill Clinton years. But we have less luxury to do so right now it seems.

    As for taking WNs for granted, it is frustrating, but also necessary in this current milieu. Blacks vote 90% plus Democrat; Hispanics hover around 80% as do Asians. Whites are the only group with a large outgroup voting pattern, as far as I can tell, just slightly favoring the GOP (upper 50s to 60 some odd %). At this stage of the game, the White normie middle is the only section in play. White normie is not in sufficient pain yet to buy WN whole kit and caboodle. They are particularly sensitive to looking “racist,” so the full on WN dogwhistling could spook them (hence why the MSM is so adamant that every utterance of Trump is a WN dogwhistle). Frankly, Trump needs sufficient normies to win, and playing the “look what I have done for minorities” card allows more normies to vote for Trump with a cleaner conscience (or at least fewer misgivings) and tends to reduce the credibility (or what’s left of it) of the MSM “racist Trump” attacks in normie’s mind.

    Unlike the typical Repugnantcan, Trump is in it to win, not lose gracefully.

  8. Scott johnston
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    I can understand the position of some people in the “Trump has done nothing for us so im sitting it out” Camp i think its misguided but i get it however Richard spencer saying he is voting for Biden was possibly the dumbest thing ive ever heard, the guy is so desperate to appear the “big brained” Contrarian he will take the Contrarian position even if it makes absolutely no sense hes a try hard, elite larping, imbecile.

    It really is very simple vote Trump and you may get a few white pills and hold of the demographic destruction of America and the worst of the anti whites also libtards will have been owned !

    Vote Biden and its Demographically assured destruction and he will essentially make it illegal to be a self respecting white person all the anti white forces will be unleashed it will be a no holds barred war on white people.

    If i was an American i would be holding my nose and voting for Trump

  9. Nemesis
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    I agree 100% Dr Johnson: I’ll take a civic nationalist over a globalist any day.
    For us, #1 is freedom of the internet. My understanding is that Trump (for now) doesn’t have the vote to change Section 230. Without internet freedom, metapolitical work would be a very hard struggle.
    The wignat discussion is a side issue at this point.
    Second comes immigration. Look at globalist Justin Trudeau: he is promising to flood Canada with 1.2 million immigrants ( Who do you think these black and brown people will be voting for?!!!

    • c matt
      Posted November 4, 2020 at 7:33 am | Permalink

      I don’t think he has to change 230, the courts just have to interpret it correctly. My understanding of 230 is the immunity only applies if you are not a publisher. You are not a publisher if you don’t take sides. If you take sides, the immunity is lost.

    • Felix Krull
      Posted November 4, 2020 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

      I’ll take a civic nationalist over a globalist any day.

      There is a difference?

  10. Hermann
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Continuing to give your loyalty and votes to a party that DECADE after DECADE has spit in your face and stabbed you in the back at every turn is no different than Battered Wife Syndrome. The Trump administration has literally labelled us domestic terrorists…. but still…. I’m expected to go vote for GOP Inc. because of muh 4D racial chess. Not buying it anymore. I don’t want to “change Republicans”. I want their party to become a footnote in history. I’ve held my nose long enough. BTW… I’m not a “Wignat”, I’m Eurocentric. And anybody throwing around terms like that around will certainly not be getting any more donations from me. I hear lots of whining about “unity” in our movement but yet… here we are.

  11. Homeland
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    There’s no way around politics, folks. You have to play the game. If you don’t play, you lose. Trump has smashed the Overtone Window, and we’re gonna walk right through it. Vote Trump 2020, and take another step towards restoring heritage America.

    • HamburgerToday
      Posted November 4, 2020 at 11:25 am | Permalink

      If its a game you always lose no matter who wins, it’s not really a game, is a con.

      And that’s exactly what voting is in the USA, a con.

  12. Rod Selvinton
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Voting is the only ACTION you can take. The rest is just talk. And how much has talking accomplished for White interests? Some, but not much. Trump and the past four years of his enemies trying to take him down have turned more whites into race realists than a dozen websites. People can see what’s happening and who’s doing it, but WN folk are curiously blind. They blame the man who does something for not doing enough, and withhold their support in hopes of… what, the sudden emergence of a king? A Hitler?

    That was inevitable regardless. Politics is only a stopgap, just as it was in the 1850s. But Trump makes it easier for a revolutionary figure to appear. The groundwork has been done. The movement exists and it’s independent from a “campaign”. Thousands of trucks have been streaming across this country all year to show support for Trump. But it’s not “Trump”. It’s them. They support themselves. They’re no longer content to sit in silence and just complain to their family. They’re letting their voices be heard and their faces show. They’re out there in large numbers.

    But some are curiously blind to this. Almost purposefully blind. I suppose it’s easier to not vote than it is to get off your ass and show yourself as a proud White American to the world.

  13. Alex Bell
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    I agree. There’s no way to know how much our guys helped Trump win in 2016, and so the idea that we can punish the GOP by staying home in 2020, and this will have some kind of significant impact, that seems a little unrealistic to me. On the other hand, it has been a very frustrating few years. So if someone just can’t bear to vote for the jackass again, I respect that.

    But to say it won’t make a difference who wins, I think that’s just being reckless. That’s just letting your frustration get the best of you.

    We win by thinking, and acting, long-term.

  14. Online Samizdating
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Trump has to lose in order to win. If meme magic / theurgy is real, then we need a Dionysus, not a Kek. Suppose he does lose outright. He’s not going away. Populist (white) contempt for the Democratic party is not going away. Does he run again in 2024 against Kamala Harris? Does one of his sons run? The game isn’t over yet but every year it gets harder to play. What sort of reaction might the coming Californian ascendancy provoke? Of course, it would be nice if Trump does win in 2020. But even if he wins, will he still be removed from office anyway? There are a few more elections until the executive branch becomes unobtainable for Republicans. And that happens before the country becomes minority majority. And that may of course get the conversation started about why a Republican can’t be president. Because it’s not voter fraud that’s going to cost Republicans elections. It’s demographics.

  15. Mike Ricci
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    Voting for Trump is just a way of saying “fuck you” to the system. Voting for Biden is just a way of saying “fuck you” to Trump voters.

    It is pure tribalism without substance; not that tribalism didn’t exist before, there’s just no point in hiding it nowadays.

  16. Arcturus
    Posted November 3, 2020 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    I’m not a “wignat,” but I’m somewhat Eurocentric. I will not be voting for Trump. I’m not sure what these wignats actually hope to accomplish but here are my reasons:

    1. I’m not a conservative, and I don’t buy the dichotomy that right-wing=pro-white and left-wing=anti-white, and that’s what much of the excuses for Trump come down to. Descriptively, it may be roughly accurate to say “the left” is our enemy but there are a lot of factions within each side, and the establishment right hasn’t done anything for white people. Prescriptively, I’m not convinced that white nationalism should be solely cast as a “conservative,” right-wing endeavor. The GOP has always been horrifically corrupt, and I don’t care for any of their ludicrous pet causes, their zionism, or the embrace of the capitalist oligarchy. Whatever distaste I have for Spencer, he may be on to something with his Biden memes.

    2. I refuse to vote for someone who betrays me and spits in my face. Where’s the birthright citizenship order? I simply don’t buy that Trump will do anything on immigration, because otherwise he would have already done it. Same with Stephen Miller. It’s all a scam, as it always will be. If we simply vote for a conservative to stop the left, it will never end.

    3. None of the proposed token measures will stop whites from becoming a majority. But this isn’t the end of the world. If white are set to become a minority, it might even be better if it’s obvious and pronounced and the left is in power. In the long-run, it could even help spur discussion on the need for an ethnostate. Otherwise, Republican voters will use the GOP and Trump as a security blanket rather than turn to white nationalism.

    4. Most importantly, while the left is the architect of white psychological dispossession, the GOP is arguably the vanguard of white economic dispossession. One merely has to look at all the surveys showing that younger whites can’t start families or move out of their parents homes because of the utter collapse of the middle class. The GOP has nothing to offer them, and never will, and is arguably finished for this reason alone. I’d argue that a populist movement must cater to more than a coalition of trust funders, business owners, and internet eccentrics that scorn and revile the working class and the unwashed masses.

    • Robert
      Posted November 12, 2020 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

      I think you may be correct about the left/right labels not being accurate. Although I have tended to think of myself as ‘right wing’, I increasingly feel that WN politics can probably only be successful from a left-ish, or at least an overtly ‘pro-worker’ perspective. (or perhaps a pro-decentralized-small-business and anti-silicon-valley-Wall-St might be a better way of putting it).

      Pointing out that billionaires hate us because the maintenance of our identity is an obstacle to their profits is helpful. As is daring to say that a human’s history, heritage, customs, taboos and folklore is more important than their role as “consumer” or “economic unit”. (It is an irony of history that up until 2015, Bernie Sanders was better on immigration than neocons.)

  17. Ray Caruso
    Posted November 4, 2020 at 2:19 am | Permalink

    There is no way to fix the United States. The only path for White survival in central North America runs through the downfall of the United States. As much as I despise Biden and all Democrats, it’s probably a good thing if he were to win, especially if he is perceived to have done so illegitimately.

  18. Vauquelin
    Posted November 4, 2020 at 6:16 am | Permalink

    A “whexit” (white exit) from white home countries seems entirely self-defeating to me. Kick out the squatters, don’t give them the keys to the castle.

    • HamburgerToday
      Posted November 4, 2020 at 10:46 am | Permalink

      ‘Whexit’ means walking away from the anti-White (Jew-dominated) ‘system’. It means recognizing that ‘playing the game’ means losing again and again and seeking to explore other options. The institutions of the West in general and North America in particular are anti-White and getting worse. Whexit is about thinking beyond these institutions for a version of White life that is future-oriented instead of backward-looking. Whites are leaving North America. They’re just rethinking what it means to be White in North America.

  19. Mac
    Posted November 4, 2020 at 6:27 am | Permalink

    Groping women and small children is the embodiment of the Faustian Spirit, sniffing them? Dionysian. Selling political power so your crackhead son can live his trashy lifestyle while you profit financially? Nietzschean. That’s why me and my long dead relatives are ridin’ for Biden.

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