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When it comes to the subject of NEETs (people ‘Not in Education, Employment, or Training’), it seems to me that the YouTuber Godwinson was correct. He made the argument that all people had periods of being a NEET: when a child we had Summer holidays where we had no routine, in between jobs when we are looking for the next job we lose routine structure, we all have these periods of being a NEET, and this time with no routine and work can actually be useful for us. We stand back and collect our thoughts, start making plans and stop being a NEET. His main argument was that the NEET lifestyle should only be a transitional period before making your position in the social world. It is a time and lifestyle which allows you to make a real step into the world as a worker, as a member of the social world, and also as a member of the hierarchy of your nation. In this sense, Godwinson is correct, he was also correct in his criticism of the NEET lifestyle: that to live like that exclusively is no life at all; it must always be a period to move on from, not a period to live in. Especially for young men who have yet to carve out their social status.
When it comes to young men, we will have periods of being a NEET just after school before our first job, or during our university and college work, when we have free time and free money from the state. The problem is that through this we lose routine and make ourselves the kind of person who won’t be a good member of a workforce. What male NEETs must do is force a routine upon themselves: force yourself to get up at the same time every day and make sure it is early. Exercise before breakfast or lunch or dinner/tea or before each. These two things alone will give you a routine and a hunger for action. Getting up early makes you realize how long the days actually are and how much time you have to do things, while exercising will help you pump yourself up, be healthy, have a healthy appetite and also to build the kind of body which can work without becoming exhausted. If you are the kind of NEET who spends all of his time reading and studying for personal fun, you need to exercise rather than wither away. By having a routine, no matter how simple, getting up early and exercising, you are setting yourself up as a responsible member of any workforce. It is also a good plan to have a very large breakfast which can keep you going all day, and also give you an excuse to exercise: for example if you have eggs, bacon, sausage and buttered toast, that will give you plenty of energy, and also plenty of reason to convert that fat into muscle.
Once you have a simple routine going for yourself, all of your spare time should now be spent on finding a job. This is where NEETs fail, and make up excuses. It doesn’t matter what job you get, just get one: Starbucks, McDonald’s, cleaning, anything: it doesn’t matter because your goal should not be work, but being a member of a workforce. While in this job, never be late, be willing to leave later than your shift calls for, let people rely on you, if a member of staff asks for help: do it. Speak little, don’t take part in small talk except in order to be friendly and open to your colleagues, never complain, and when you work with someone who is annoying or doing a bad job show them how to be and do better, and make a comment when their work improves: sincerely congratulate them with a statement like ‘That’s why I like working with you’ or ‘That is why we all are happy when you are here’. When you identify someone as better than you at your job, respect them, listen to them, and ask them what you could do in order to be better and more like them. Last but not least of all: apologise when you make a mistake, and show you won’t repeat it by asking how to do it correctly next time. Take all advice and criticism as a showing of wanting you to be better and around – your work colleagues want you around and want you to do a good job so you can stay around – this makes everyone’s job easier, and even enjoyable.
All of this will make you the kind of person that your boss and co-workers will call when they need someone to come in, you will be relied upon and trusted, you will get more hours than the useless emergency people, and the other members of the workforce will respect you: working is not about the income or material gain, it is about carving out a social position for yourself. For men this is essential, and gives us a sense of worth and self-respect which empowers us to do more, and to actually go out there, make mistakes, correct them, and make something of ourselves. The ultimate goal here is to make yourself into the kind of man who can start building a family, who can supply it with an income, and also to become a role model of the hardworking man who takes responsibility, and comes home to his family. There is a joy in work, and it is often because you have a family behind you, supporting you as you support them.
When it comes to the subject of NEETs, the topic of women seems to get ignored quite a lot, which makes sense since most of the NEET talk is about young men who just stay at home playing video games. What is ignored is that the NEET lifestyle in a woman is an indicator that she is waiting (whether consciously or not) to give meaning to her life. If a woman is a NEET, she will stay at home, usually keep the place tidy, indulging in hobbies like reading, knitting, and baking. Does any of this sound familiar? Like a mother, perhaps? That is exactly what the NEET lifestyle in a woman is: an empty version of motherhood. These women already know naturally that the working life is not for them, they spend most of their time keeping their home clean and tidy, and the rest of the times they spend on hobbies. This makes them perfect for starting a family with. All a young man with his first job needs to do is make a declaration of loyalty to this woman: be honest and open with her: you want to start a family, you have your first job where you are trusted and respected, and you have disposable income which you could spend on starting a family. That way, a woman can see exactly what she wants: a man who is willing to do work, will be loyal to her, and supply her with everything she needed as a NEET, but also everything she needs as a woman: a family, a reliable husband and a household.
The reason she is a NEET is because she is happier at home, but there is something missing. She knows she needs and wants something, which is why she is at home and waiting. So, not only do young male NEETs need to go out in the world, they also need to contact a female NEET and enrich her life with meaning so she can transcend her NEEThood, and transform it into what it was meant to be in the first place: motherhood.
You show how serious you are when you make it clear that you want to marry and have children, because when an individual works for the family he transcends the individual. You are now working towards a metaphysical end; you will bring forth life and make it real in the world: through this both the male and female fail to be mere individuals. By showing a woman that you trust her, that you will unite with her, bring forth life with her, and that you trust her to be loyal to your household, family and children, you enrich her life into the one she always wanted. This will make her look back on her NEET life as empty, and she will understand that she wanted this all along, although she didn’t know it. The same can be said of the male NEET lifestyle, we work away at our own hobbies and want to be a certain type of man, but we do not know why: because we want to be a father and husband, and that demands respect and strength in the social world, in the personal world, and in the household.
So, unwittingly, the NEET female is the perfect type of female to transform into a mother, because she is already on her way there. All you need to do is be loyal to her and show her you are serious, that your words match your actions, and that you trust her to become the mother of your family. You show loyalty through hard work, by marrying her and by building a household and family with her: it is your family, her’s and your’s. This shows a deep level of love and trust, and a woman who used to be a NEET will not betray you, she will be happy that her lifestyle finally has a deep meaning to it, it finally makes her happy on a level that she has wanted for as long as she can remember.
So, young men of the NEEThood, do not rise up and make a man out of yourself just to throw yourself at the first woman who gives you attention, find a woman who already shows signs of being a mother. A NEET girl is a traditional woman trapped in the modern times, go and marry her. Take her out of her atomized existence and bring forth life in your family. That tradition is dying to come back in the biology of every NEET female. Find yourself a NEET girl and go and make her into the mother she can be, and in the process become the father and man who was respected within your nation as you built it.
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If a woman is a NEET, you’re not going to get to meet her because, by definition, she isn’t going out in public a lot, or overly social, to actually meet her.
If the female NEET does make an online dating profile and she’s above a 3/10 in looks (and is American), she’ll get absolutely inmundated with messages from various men and adopt the same entitled mentality that defines the American woman— so unless you’re exceptionally good looking & tall, you don’t get a date with her anyway.
That’s a valid point and does make a NEET woman exceptionally hard to meet/get. My main audience here is young men, and thus men who are entering the workforce and local community, and through this workforce you can meet plenty of healthy women who are connected to those you work with, or of course as customers if you work in that line of work. Being an open member of the community as a part of work, or as a local volunteer is how you can meet people through hobbies and community events such as courses. NEET women usually have a sense of duty towards communal actions, even if they don’t enjoy socialising.
But also as you said, many people now are very internet oriented and thus online dating or even just online socialising may make more sense. I would advice against online dating for the exact reason you just gave, she will be getting swarmed and will either give up or date above her league and thus is more likely to be used for casual sex. My main contention here isn’t that these opportunities don’t come along, but many young men simply aim for the exact kind of women who won’t make long term partners, wives and mothers. For example, if you are Christian, plenty of NEET women are going to Church out of a sense of duty and thus socialise within the Church even though they don’t actually enjoy socialising or being outside of their home.
Although none of this is to take away from how true your comment is, unfortunately.
Well, there’s another problem as well.
Us folk in the “alt-right” and libertarian scenes are all told to get blue collar skilled trade jobs instead of sinking $100k in a college education. And, to be sure, a trade is going to be a much better bet than a non-STEM major.
However, it also means, if you’re male, you’re going to be in a situation to where the overwhelming majority of people you come into contact with are also male– especially if you do work in residential suburban housing, as I do, to where the only people wealthy enough to afford a home in the suburbs are in their mid-to-late 30s, minimum, but are typically aging Baby Boomers as a matter of course.
Not to mention that the “learn a trade and get rich” thing is just as much an unrealistic meme as the “go to college, follow your dreams, and become rich” sthick.
Additionally, consider that “educated” women who work “prestigious” office jobs as, essentially, bean-counters, aren’t going to want to date “below their league” and go out with a blue collar guy, despite the fact that folks such as myself perform a real-world mechanical task requiring practical skills.
Also, several years ago, I decided to follow the alt-right meme of “go out with a Christian virgin” and actually dated one. However, she was an ultra-Protestant Evangelical who held to a Biblical literalistic view of her religion, ultra-Zionist, and just extremely sheltered and un-educated in general. She was also extremely clingy and would text me 6-8 times a day with “what are you doing now?”, and, the whole thing was just so unbelievably cringy that, even myself, as a guy, who have known plenty of sperglords and such over the years, from my time in the alt-right and libertarian circles, was weirded out by the whole situation. It was almost pedo-y in nature despite her being in her early 20s when we went out because she was just so psychologically immature.
Granted, that one girl was a small sample size, but I would venture to guess that she was fairly representative the only kinds of girls who are hardcore enough about their Christianity that they actually don’t slut-it-up because of Jesus.
Really, the only way to get women to control themselves in 2019 is to have a totalitarian and Biblically literalist religion, like Evangelicalism. My good friend Tyler, who is an ex-Mormon I met in “The Right Stuff” FB group circa 2013, said the same thing of the LDS girls at his local church– very psychologically immature and childlike in nature.
Not trying to crap all over your article, but this is the truth of reality as I’ve observed it.
Your points are valid, and my own experiences validate your points further: I went to university which is where I met my fiancée. My education there gave me debt and destroyed my illusions about being a teacher in a university, but it also allowed me to meet the woman I wish to marry, and that education for her allowed her to realise she didn’t want it, she wanted a family and she was wasting time and money that she could be using to begin that family.
Both I and her have many NEET friends who left university and never went on to do anything. The men just game, while the women do the typical things like knit and get new pets – both the men and women are unhappy and relatively alone, yet if the men tried to get out there, work and so on, while the women could somehow meet these trying men, they could easily begin to form families and stop themselves from being so atomised, unnatural and unhappy.
Your experience of very religious women is somewhat true, but (so long as they aren’t actually neurotic) your duty as a man and patriarch is to raise them to the level of women from the infantile mind set that the modern age has given most women. This may be somewhat easier with heavily religious women because most religions have a strong patriarchal respect within them. But if you are in America and surrounded by Evangelical Protestants who basically ignore the tradition of male-headed families and communities…I feel sorry for you. Educating them out of that and towards a traditional Christianity is possible, but I do not envy your struggle if you attempt it.
Your points are valid, and my own experiences validate your points further: I went to university which is where I met my fiancée. My education there gave me debt and destroyed my illusions about being a teacher in a university, but it also allowed me to meet the woman I wish to marry, and that education for her allowed her to realise she didn’t want it, she wanted a family and she was wasting time and money that she could be using to begin that family.
Both I and her have many NEET friends who left university and never went on to do anything. The men just game, while the women do the typical things like knit and get new pets – both the men and women are unhappy and relatively alone, yet if the men tried to get out there, work and so on, while the women could somehow meet these trying men, they could easily begin to form families and stop themselves from being so atomised, unnatural and unhappy.
Your experience of very religious women is somewhat true, but (so long as they aren’t actually neurotic) your duty as a man and patriarch is to raise them to the level of women from the infantile mind set that the modern age has gave all women. This may be somewhat easier with heavily religious women because most religions have a strong patriarchal respect within them. But if you are in America and surrounded by Evangelical Protestants who basically ignore the tradition of male-headed families and communities…I feel sorry for you. Educating them out of that and towards a tradition Christianity is possible, but I do not envy your struggle if you attempt it.
This all presumes that slaving away for globo-homo-shlomo corp and paying taxes to a tyrannical anti-White state is preferable to putting down the shovel and having them pay us like they do for the millions of non-Whites who parasite on White labour.
Individual benefits of NEETism:
1. At least 48 extra hours per week to socialise and engage in physical and intellectual exercises that serve the public good
2. No chance of dying in a car crash on a long drive to or back from work
3. No exhaustion/boredom/stress/depression from work: I retain my health, self-respect, energy, creativity, personality and freedom
4. Can eat, shit, piss, sleep, wake up and enjoy sunny days on my own time: every day is a defacto weekend
5. Free, untaxed money from wage-slave labour but not enough to be a consumer degenerate
6. Low costs/asceticism
7. No gold diggers/cuckoldry
8. Can speak, write and associate freely without any possibility of being fired or falling into debt
9. Not forced to associate with any individual or group I don’t like; free from the possibility of subservience or compulsory benevolence to my inferiors
10. No allegiance or contact with the soulless, politically-correct machine that is at best indifferent and at worst wants to wipe me out
11. Get up every morning knowing I’m not a slave to jews, browns, feminists, capitalists or other NEETs & don’t have to pretend to be thankful for them
NEETism has always been an aristocratic way of living, now corrupted by an association with junk food, video games and pornography. The vast majority of women used to enjoy the benefits of the NEET lifestyle as housewives but have since been coaxed or forced into serfdom by an unholy alliance of jewish feminists and corporate capitalists.
The system that’s attempting to wipe us out couldn’t survive without mass White complicity to work for it and pay taxes. The consumerism and materialism of the market economy are two of the greatest obstacles our collective health and survival.
Wow. I’m not sure if your reply is full-on Varg Vikernes or full on “In this moment, I am euphoric”.
I work for my parents in a skilled trade, so I don’t really have to deal with the “PC police” as far as employment. They know of my views and obviously aren’t going to fire me because of them.
So, I guess I’m not really in a position to judge you for your life decisions seeing as mine are substantially different. By normie standards, they would be termed “loser-ish”, but the normies, as they exist today, are in no more a position to judge people by Traditionalist standards as NEETs are.
I guess, as long as you aren’t watching porn and are exercising / even-lifting on a regular basis, your path isn’t terrible considering the circumstances of the Current Year.
“Wow. I’m not sure if your reply is full-on Varg Vikernes or full on “In this moment, I am euphoric”
Maybe both.
By normie standards, there’s no doubt that deliberately failing to find employment and unashamedly claiming welfare to fund a relatively austere lifestyle is loser-ish. It’s interesting that you mention Traditionalist standards though as Baron Evola was certainly a NEET, maybe Crowley too.
You don’t need a lot to get by. The state not only offers free money but free food from foodbanks and often major discounts for leisure activities, including swimming and gym. If you can’t afford a smartphone, tv or game console and the only way of accessing the internet is at public libraries, you aren’t going to be spending most of your time in cyberspace. If you can’t afford to drive your converted campervan around much, you’re going to have to cycle a lot. If the only place you can take a shower is at the gym/pool and exercise is one of your main recreational activities, you’ve got a great incentive to work-out almost every day and get super fit. It’s also possible to get more money by claiming some form of mental illness but that does have the cost of limiting your employment prospects in the future.
Some would argue that doing this makes you economically dependent on the state and that’s true but most wage-labourers are equally dependent on corporations or the state to provide for them. We’re also dependent on shops/supermarkets, gas stations and public services. The only people who have a reasonable degree of autonomy in these respects live on plots of land with self-sufficiency in food and energy production. Virtually everyone else is highly dependent on the system.
Never take dating advice from a woman. women do not want a beta simp; even the women who live in their parents’ basement. This is cuckery and no woman is attracted to it. 99% of women are on the cock carousel, whether in the basement, or in the workforce. Good luck boys.
You make no sense.
Be a good slave 9 hours in one place and then you somehow will find a female NEET that doesn’t go outside, what?
Even if you manage to find one female NEET in your area, she could be a) ugly, b) too old, c) leftist, d) dumb, or e) not interested in you. This is not even counting your personality (shy, introverted and so on).
This article is basically just “go outside, get a girl, make a family”, so basically worthless.
As far as the ideas (in the article) about the work place … co-workers valuing you for your work ethic & habits, how well you perform …. I can only ask: what planet are you from? Seriously? I never saw that happen anywhere. Workplaces are an extension of social scenes. Or rather, workplaces are turned into social scenes. By management.
Management and their favorites do not care one whit about what value you bring to the company’s work/product. They of course will use you to get the work done. But the rewards go to social clique persons (management and their favorites). Not to you the hard, conscientious worker. I’ve watched this with my own two eyes and could not bring myself to believe it until it happened to (aka pummeled, victimized) me several times until I woke up to it. Even when you are saving the company its own money, they still only care about your social position.
One of the last places I worked hired a manager to supposedly make the company (military contractor) deliver product to the customer (gov’t). He hired three of his entourage from some previous employer to do the three functions he was supposed to do. He spent his time in his office on the phone doing god knows what, probably his personal life business. He forced rules on every one to take their lunch/dinner break at specific times down to the minute and threatened disciplinary action if it deviated a minute either way. You know, typical bureaucrat nonsense. He let other workers spend their time sabotaging my work. Many of those there were hired because of who they knew, not what they knew. Some had no formal training or other qualifications; management literally loaded up the payroll with their social contacts.
He and his three friends cost the company well over $100,000 in payroll, did no useful work, and the company still delivered no more product than it did before him and his friends. I did work others couldn’t or wouldn’t do, did about twice the work per that contracted in writing, didn’t charge the self paid health plan. In the end, he and friends stayed on the payroll while I was sent packing when the contract started coming to an end.
I saw this happen in every place I worked and similar attitudes in military service about that activity.
Management does not care one bit about getting work done. They are like ostriches with their heads in the sand. Even when it is their own money (stock) being spent, instead of customer money, they still don’t care. It was an absolutely soul crushing experience.
I guess I became a NEET around age 30 and have never looked back. Never heard that term until today but it sounds like me. I just get by, comfortably enough, and have time to work out and stay in shape, eat well and have become a (I think) great cook/gourmand, well read and pursue every hobby, personal interest and leisure activity I have an interest in. No one gets any useful purpose out of me anymore. No one will benefit from me like that ever again. I’ve learned to base my sense of self worth in how educated (in a real classic/traditional sense, not from any classroom) and knowledgeable I am. How capable at being self dependent I am. Not whether I am useful to some soulless slob who uses me like a piece of meat.
Yeah, even the workers on your level aren’t your friends. They’re thinking about getting home to their tv and laying on the couch, not some “social carving”, just lol. Work is only about the paycheck, everything else is cope.
This reads as really bad self-help article, and I’m not even touching the “big breakfast and exercising before each meal.” I think the author has very vague and outdated view about what eating and what “exercise” even is.
These articles are getting really bad on this website.
Yes, exactly. Working at jobs, aka employed by others, basically was reduced down to just getting that paycheck to pay bills. And also true about the people on your level. I don’t expect bosom pal type of buddies everywhere I worked but the cut throat attitude was another facet of the soul crushing experience. They would dump you the very instant that they found out that management (and favorites aka the social clique) were against you for any reason. Sometimes before a layoff I could tell it was coming, meaning aimed at me, because some people had turned negative toward me or ostracized me altogether. You pick up on things like that after a while.
This article makes snme sense.
However, readers must take care. My first NEET girlfiend seemed charming, we had good times, film clubs, pop shows, but she hated sex, and, as I was to learn, she was taking benzodiazepenes like popcorn.
Even going to multiple doctors to get them. Then claiming that a doctor was trying to kill her. The only person trying to kill her was herrself.
Of course, she always kept her room or place neat and minimal.
She is long dead, long after we split, by her own hand.
I could go on, but want to write my own advice article here some time.
I love the tone of the article, but take care, many NEET women are good at presenting a good front (the wonderfully tidy and minimal room or flat) while being a totally insane mess that will be very destructive to you, and may waste many years of your only life.
I agree with the general thesis of the article, but the advice is also very dangerous if not taken with a very wary eye, which good men in their twenties and thirties tend to lack w.r.t. women.
Stated from bitter experience.
I read or re-read the whole thread, including my own contrib. from the heart (and true, as it appears, also the others here), none is remotely happy. I will be a heretic and recommend Anglin’s advice re. self-help and women.
I do not agree with all of the dietary advice, (more vegetables needed), but in general, it is not bad.
Anglin is running a series of ‘Self-help Sundays’, some of the advice is invalid, most is good.
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