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What is the Alternative Right? Part 4

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Part 4 of 4, Part 1 here, Part 2 here, Part 3 here

Author’s Note:

This is the final installment of the opening essay of a forthcoming anthology called The Alternative Right.    

White Nationalism 1.0 & 2.0

In 2015, when the new Alt Right became more comfortable with the idea of White Nationalism, most of its members had only the vaguest acquaintance with an earlier generation of White Nationalist figures. Lawrence Murray, for instance, claimed, “I myself had never heard of [William] Pierce and [David] Duke . . . until becoming involved with the Alt-Right.”[1] Murray’s experience is typical of Millennial and Gen Z Alt Rightists.

The Alt Right began calling the White Nationalism of their fathers’ generation “White Nationalism 1.0.” The dubbed the Alt Right “White Nationalism 2.0.” Built into this framework was a dismissive attitude toward White Nationalism 1.0 and an assumption that the Alt Right was a marked improvement. I agreed with the latter judgment. But more often than not, Alt Rightists dismissed figures like Pierce and Duke based simply on impressions gleaned from the mainstream media. I thought it was shameful to parrot enemy propaganda. Thus when such attitudes appeared in various private forums, I urged Alt Rightists to become better informed and learn what they could from White Nationalism 1.0. As a movement, it was largely a failure, but learning from failure is part of success. Unfortunately, some people learned the wrong lessons.

By the beginning of 2017, I began to notice a definite shift toward 1.0 ideas and attitudes:

  • The assumption that German National Socialism is the only authentic form of White Nationalism
  • Advocating the mass extermination of non-whites, race-mixers, and homosexuals, straight from the pages of The Turner Diaries
  • A marked upsurge attitudes toward women that can legitimately be labeled misogyny, including the toxic “white sharia” meme and a push to bully female voices into silence
  • A revival of the skinhead subculture of binge drinking and hard drugs
  • The return of costumed demonstrations and street brawls with Leftists

The entirely negative consequences of these attitudes and behaviors were easy to predict. But they were nevertheless tolerated, given platforms, and even advocated and encouraged by leading Alt-Right voices. (It should be noted that, although David Duke is routinely lumped in with White Nationalism 1.0, he shares none of these ideas and attitudes.)

First and foremost, WN 1.0 ideas are self-marginalizing and self-defeating.

The best possible way to advocate White Nationalism is to emphasize that it is a political philosophy based in human nature, confirmed by social science and political experience, and rooted in the political traditions of all white nations. The worst possible way to advocate White Nationalism is to claim that every form of ethnonationalism is fake—except the German form that was defeated in 1945 and has been execrated continuously ever since.

As I argue in The White Nationalist Manifesto, the white race is currently being subjected to genocide, and White Nationalism is the best political system to end white genocide and restore healthy white communities. The worst possible way to rally our people against the genocide directed at us is to advocate genocide against others.

One of the self-evident axioms of politics is that a movement has a better chance of winning if more people fight for it and fewer people fight against it. There are two ways to do this. First, we must rally our own people to our banner. Second, we can try to split the enemy bloc by converting some of them to allies, sympathizers, or simply neutral parties.

But if we have exterminationists among us, our own people will not side with us, because such morally repugnant positions only attract psychopaths to the movement while repulsing normal people. Indeed, exterminationists actually reinforce the white guilt propaganda that asserts that whites are a uniquely evil race whose disappearance would not be a great loss to the cosmos. Furthermore, exterminationists ensure that the enemy bloc will be larger and more unified simply because no non-white in his right mind could sympathize with or be indifferent to our movement—much less aid it.

Just as egalitarians label simple realism about racial differences “hate,” they label simple realism about the differences between the sexes “misogyny,” i.e., the hatred of women. That said, however, there are quite a few race realists who genuinely hate other races, many of them gleefully, without reluctance or reservations.[2] Likewise, there are quite a lot of people in our circles who simply hate women.

Many of the race haters don’t understand that the fundamental purpose of our movement is to drain the multicultural swamp in which racial hatred breeds, rather than to self-indulgently wallow in it. Indeed, the more the movement is simply a platform for expressing hate, the less likely it is to actually create a society that is free of racial hatred.

Likewise, many of the woman haters don’t understand that another fundamental aim of our movement is to drain the cultural swamp that breeds distrust and hatred between the sexes, rather than just to provide a platform for misogynists to vomit bile into the void. Indeed, the more the movement is simply a safe space for damaged people to vent, the less likely it is to actually create a society with healthy families and sexual norms.

Politics is not therapy. The more our movement resembles a group therapy session—with the lunatics running the asylum—the less likely it is to achieve its political goals.

The idea of “white sharia” took wholesome and salutary truths about the differences between the sexes and their appropriate roles in the family and society at large and self-defeatingly packaged them in terms that bring to mind child brides, arranged marriages, rape gangs, sex slavery, polygamy, clitoridectomies, acid attacks, purdah, and dressing in dropcloths.

Again: the White Nationalist movement has a better chance of winning if more people fight for us and fewer people fight against us. Thus it is self-defeating for a movement that is already small and marginal to launch bullying campaigns against entire classes of white people who want to help—including the more than 50% of the white race that happens to be female.

As I argue in my essays “Redefining the Mainstream” and “Against Right-Wing Sectarianism,” White Nationalism will win when it becomes the common sense of the whole cultural and political mainstream. There is nothing inherently Right-wing about the essential ideas of White Nationalism: for instance, that being white is a necessary condition of European identity; that the white race is being subjected to slow genocide due to policies that promote low white fertility and non-white immigration; that creating sovereign white homelands with pro-natal, pro-family values is the solution to white genocide; and that Jews have played a leading role in promoting white genocide and blocking whites from stopping it. At present, though, White Nationalism is a movement of the Right. But that presents us with a tricky problem.

To transform the mainstream in a White Nationalist direction, we need to let our message emerge from its current Right-wing cocoon and spread its wings. It would be self-defeating to change any of our essential principles to conform to the mainstream. The whole point is to get the mainstream to conform to us. Thus the only thing we can change is how we package and communicate our message. We need to craft versions of the essential White Nationalist message that can convert every white constituency. We even need to convert some non-whites into allies and sympathizers, or at least convince them they have nothing to lose from our victory.

That is a tall order, and we are just beginning to figure out how to make it work. It is, however, easy to determine what won’t work, namely insisting that the White Nationalist idea must be accepted with a long list of Right-wing add-ons. Right-wing sectarianism is the path to self-marginalization and self-defeat, and in this game, White Nationalism 1.0 is the undisputed champion.

But we know that victory is possible, because it was not too long ago that pro-white ideas were culturally and politically dominant. Furthermore, the present hegemony of anti-white ideas was created through the exact same metapolitical strategies by which we aim to reverse it. The sooner we stop doing things that don’t work—and start doing things that do work—the sooner we win.

We need to take a nuanced stance on drinking, drugs, and other unhealthy habits. On the one hand, our movement aims at the creation of a better society. On the other hand, the people in our movement are the products of the profoundly sick society that we wish to overcome. Thus young audiences find it real and relatable to watch Millennial Woes chain-smoking his way through his YouTube videos, or to listen to the countless podcasts whose hosts and guests are obviously drunk or stoned.

But imagine tuning back in ten years from now and finding them doing the exact same thing. Obviously, something would have gone terribly wrong. Obviously, an important opportunity would have been lost. For the whole point of being real and relatable is to establish a connection to one’s audience in order to lead them. Not just to lead them, to better them. But we cannot better people if we do not better ourselves. Thus an ethos that celebrates or merely tolerates chemical dependencies is self-defeating. It turns the movement into just another dead-end of modern decadence rather than an exit from it. How can we overcome the downward plunge of the whole modern world if we can’t even overcome the downward pull of our own petty vices?

Imagine, for a moment, that the movement adopted Harold Covington’s General Order Number 10: for the duration of the struggle, no White Nationalist will use alcohol and drugs.[3] We would gain much and lose nothing. First, drugs and alcohol impair judgment and effectiveness, leading to bad decisions and clumsy execution with predictably self-defeating consequences. Second, drugs and alcohol get people into trouble with the law, which is one way they are turned into informants and saboteurs. Third, drugs and alcohol consume time and money that could be better spent on the cause. Fourth, demanding people give up drugs and alcohol communicates that our cause is serious and demands personal sacrifices but also makes us better and nobler people. Finally, adopting a zero-tolerance policy for drugs and alcohol weeds out unserious people who prize personal self-indulgence over racial salvation. Now imagine if the Alt Right had adopted this sort of ethos at the beginning of 2016. Think of everything we could have avoided.

We also need to take a nuanced stance on the return of costumed protests and brawls with Communists. The Old Right began by battling Communists in the streets of Europe. For a while after Trump’s election, it looked like those days were back as masked Communists (“antifa”) attacked Trump supporters in the streets. Naturally, Trump supporters, including White Nationalists, wanted to fight back. It was only natural to test the waters and see what was possible. At a certain point, however, caution and prudence were tossed to the winds. People got giddy and grandiose. The result was the catastrophic Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, the costs and consequences of which are still mounting to this day.

Charlottesville offered valuable lessons that many of us took to heart. Don’t hold rallies in enemy strongholds. Don’t announce our events months in advance, giving the enemy time to prepare. Don’t trust the enemy media to convey our message. Don’t trust police to enforce the laws if they benefit us. White Nationalists will be fired from their jobs, demonized by the press, deplatformed from the web, and prosecuted by the anti-white establishment, while antifa will be coddled. We don’t have the numbers, money, institutions, and public sympathy to engage in demonstrations like Unite the Right. The Left has effectively bottomless reserves of lawyers and money to harass us with frivolous lawsuits, the aim of which is to exhaust and bankrupt us and to expose the identities of our activists and donors though the “discovery” process. But we don’t have comparable resources to defend ourselves.

The great lesson of Charlottesville was simply to take stock of the strengths and weaknesses of both the establishment and our movement, then focus on doing what works. The enemy’s strengths include vast numbers of people, effectively infinite amounts of money, and control over the leading institutions of society. The same can be said, however, of any establishment right up to the point that it was overthrown. The enemy’s chief weaknesses are promoting morally heinous and socially destructive policies based on lies, as well as being corrupt, decadent, vicious, and silly.

Our weaknesses are the mirror image of our enemies’ strengths. Our movement has tiny numbers and scarce funds. We control almost no institutions of our own and are at the mercy of the institutions controlled by our enemies. Again, this is true of practically every revolutionary movement at one time or another, including those that go on to win.

Our strengths too are the mirror image of our enemies’ weaknesses. They are promoting policies based on lies about human nature that are leading to hatred, conflict, and eventually genocide. We promote policies based on truths about human nature that will minimize ethnic conflict, hatred, and genocide. They promote bad arguments and double standards, and we are masters of deconstructing them. They are laughable, and we are masters of mocking and shaming them.

As long as we attacked the enemy’s weaknesses from our strengths, we were making remarkable metapolitical gains. But as soon as some attacked the enemy’s strongest points from a position of relative weakness, they were destroyed. Those of us who are still in the struggle either never got involved with street activism or have returned to doing what works: metapolitics—which means community organizing and the propaganda war, including the low-risk, high-reward propaganda of the deed strategies pioneered by the Identitarian Movement and adopted by Identity Evropa in the United States.

* * *

Is the story of the Alt Right over, or will there be a next chapter? At this point, we shouldn’t really care. Even if the Alt Right is dead, White Nationalism and white identity politics are very much alive, and it is the issues not the symbols that really matter. The Alt Right was just a brand. It was a useful umbrella term that created a discursive space in which White Nationalists could network with and convert people who are closer to the mainstream. But Richard Spencer collapsed that discursive space with Hailgate. The much-reduced Alt Right movement that Spencer created under his leadership met its Waterloo at Charlottesville. At this point, the Alt Right movement is dead, and the brand has been irreparably tarnished. There will always be some people who will choose to call themselves Alt Right, just as there are people who call themselves Nazis, but it will be little more than a defiant gesture of self-marginalization. Those who are serious about creating a future for white people need to look beyond the Alt Right toward a new nationalism.


[1] Quoted in Hawley, Making Sense of the Alt-Right, p. 80.

[2] See, for contrast, Greg Johnson, “Confessions of a Reluctant Hater.”

[3] See Greg Johnson, “Birth of a Nation,” a review of Harold Covington’s first four Northwest novels, and “Drug Legalization in the White Republic,” a libertarian position that I have abandoned because of the catastrophic consequences of drugs on white communities.


  1. Grover C. Niles
    Posted November 15, 2018 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    Mr. Johnson, Thank you for your continuing intellectual efforts. I find in your website and essays a refreshing oasis admist the searing blank eyed desert that the internet has become, especially when presented with queries that challenge the dominant narratives (ie race and crime/ intellegence, etc.). I second your support for Covington’s 10th order. My abstemiousness during the last 2 years, coupled with my pastime of writing criticism of New York Times articles, led me to an idealogy (I reach for the safety on my Ruger when I use the term) that runs parallel to Yours, in many ways. i believe that articulating rationally fastidious criticisms of disagreeable norms, and providing a ‘normie’ toolkit of positions and responses that are rhetorically attractive outside of any vanguard will grow the field of support. I imagine my girlfriend, amongst her friends, speaking out at one of the many kneejerk absurditities that abound with some crystal of logic we had previously discussed, and this spreading order. I have already gone on too long and I know this is hardly a new idea. So thank you, and keep up the good work.

  2. Benjamin
    Posted November 15, 2018 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    That was a fun article.

    Can’t wait to receive your newest book in the mail if your analysis and writing skills are anything in there like in this series of CC articles.

    We shall see.

  3. Posted November 15, 2018 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Just a quick note to say how much I appreciate your work. This paper is brilliant, as are your previous ones. And I was just thinking about what a unique form of enjoyment it is to read something brilliant!! It’s encouraging and uplifting! We need that, too, because it’s very easy to become bitter and profoundly discouraged. Thanks a lot, Greg!

  4. dominique_malaparte
    Posted November 15, 2018 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    I am always hesitant to disagree with Greg. But it seems to me contradictory to argue, on the one side, against self-marginalizing right-wing add-on’s, and then to ask us to “imagine” a movement that abjures the use of alcohol. Let me dilate at length.

    As a Gen X’er once enamored with the 1990s rave scene, and who continued to dabble with drugs at rock’n’roll bars and late night venues up until, say, his 40th birthday, in a very extended & distended adolescence, I require no convincing that drugs are extremely destructive of the race, even if used well short of Appalachian levels. Though I tried virtually every drug current in my time, I was especially drawn to Ecstasy, which promises the user a blissfully womb-like experience of sheer sound and rushing emotions of pseudo “agape,” a kind of asexual embrace of all others in near proximity. I hung-out with lots of gays and lots of blacks, and very rarely had sex with women (and never with men). I somehow imagined that I belonged to an “elite” tribe defined by a shared taste for music and drug-fueled nightlife. We had our own twisted & delusional snobbery. I am now in my late 40s, single, never married, no children, depressed by the prospect of dying a biological & spiritual dead-end.

    Drugs go hand-in-hand with pornography & various fetish complexes as devices to avoid the objective world, whether that be an adult career in a profession or craft or a full-fledged sexual relationship and marriage. We need to lead our people away from these evils. I am no Christian, but drugs and fetishes are “satanic” insofar as they block us off from, and make us cold to, the true beauty of flourishing life.

    So on the question of drugs, I agree with Greg. But I disagree about alcohol, partially excepting hard booze. Maybe I am just too far gone? Or is Greg needlessly channeling his Puritan ancestors?

    At the risk of outing myself from my lowly position in society, my work involves championing & showcasing wines that are made by traditional methods and with indigenous grapes. In particular, I actively defend the integrity of an Italian wine list by ensuring that all wines on the list are Italian, and that as many of these wines as possible are fully autochthonous. This entails rebuffing countless salesmen hawking non-Italian wine, and banishing Sauvignon Blanc from Friuli and Chardonnay from Sicily. One day I shall even eliminate the so-called Super Tuscans.

    The biodiversity of native Italian grapes is so great, and the traditions so ancient and sacred, that the introduction of French & international grapes, and American techniques, can mean only a destruction that is wholly unnecessary and utterly heedless. Surely there is a political lesson to be had here.

    I say this half in jest, but could not a greater appreciation for wine among our people serve as a pathway to White Nationalism? A way to reach the hearts & minds of bourgeois, self-styled connoisseurs?

    At the very least, eminent wine critic Andrew Jefford owes a thing or two to Heidegger. See this article =

    And as much as I sometimes try to defend Richard Spencer in the face of Greg’s criticisms, it appears that Spencer favors Cooper & Thief and other new-fangled wines aged in bourbon barrels. This, to me, is unforgivable.

    • Voryn Illidari
      Posted November 15, 2018 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

      We must secure the existence of our vineyards and a future for Italian vintages.

      • dominique_malaparte
        Posted November 16, 2018 at 2:27 am | Permalink

        Wine is uniquely European in concept & practice. And its truths apply to politics.

        In any case, I suspect that Greg must have had certain heavy drinkers in our movement in mind when he wrote this installment. I don’t know any of these people . I merely browse the key on-line journals and tune-in to the likes of J-F and Dr Turley.

        And, yes, as I re-read my comment, it does seem very frivolous and self-involved. But I was actually trying to condense many ideas into a few paragraphs, arguing on different levels at once. Wine & drugs as stand-ins for opposite ways of relating to being. Or something like that.

        My main concern, and what I think needs to be reflected upon, without lapsing into group therapy, is the “stunted development,” the refusal of manhood, the self-cocooning, that is so pervasive in today’s white culture.

        • Stronza
          Posted November 16, 2018 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

          the self-cocooning

          Possibly the cocooning by white people will lead to birth into something unexpected and much, much better than what came before. It’s not outside the realm of possibility.

    • Posted November 17, 2018 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

      I don’t think we should treat all drugs in a catch-all, Nancy Reagan type of way, as if heroin and crack are the same as marijuana and LSD. Sometimes, some drugs can be used constructively, as I can attest. I don’t use them anymore and haven’t in quite a while, but there was a time in my life when they definitely had a positive impact. Psychedelics, if used properly, do not cut one off from the “true beauty of flourishing life,” they enhance it. Psychedelics helped to turn me from a rather nihilistic materialist into someone who could believe in the value of things such as the chain of our people and the idea that there is something intangible above us to believe in. So I think certain types of drugs can be used positively, if used in moderation, and tarring them all with the same “bad” brush is not constructive. We need to use all the resources at our disposal.

      As for alcohol, it’s the same. Alcohol has been part of the lives of our peoples since prehistory. As long as you’re not using it to excess, and you’re able to attend to your responsibilities unimpeded, I don’t see what the problem is with it. The idea of giving it up as some sort of sacrifice sounds like a good idea, but given that for the older people here, it’s very possible we won’t attain anything like victory in our lifetimes (and who decides what the terms of victory are?), it would likely be a lifetime commitment, and that just seems silly to me. And as you say, one can definitely perceive something of the uniqueness and achievement of Western civilization in appreciating a well-crafted wine, beer, or liquor. Absinthe, for example, is something I feel well expresses the European cultural psyche, as it takes a lot of effort both to make it well and to serve it properly, and has no analogue in any other civilization. So absolutely, in my view, alcohol can be a path to appreciating our civilization and its traditions.

      As for being in your late 40s and lamenting being single, I can relate as I’m close to your age and I had a similar type of youth (maybe not quite as wild), but you should try to see it as an opportunity rather than as a failure. It’s not every man’s destiny to be a family man, and it never has been. Are priests, monks, or men who devote their lives to knowledge, art, or duty and never have families failures? I would say no. Think of how much more you have in terms of time and resources as compared to a man who is supporting a family. That can be put to good use by pursuing other types of activities that are useful to the Cause. Even if you just use it for self-improvement, that’s a positive use of your time. So don’t despair, own it and seize it.

  5. Jef Costello
    Posted November 15, 2018 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    “A revival of the skinhead subculture of binge drinking and hard drugs.” Actually, no: while skinheads consume oceans of beer, they tend to frown on drug use.

    • Benjamin
      Posted November 15, 2018 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

      Beer is basically liquid estrogen and testosterone levels have decreased roughly 50% in the last half-century.

      Perhaps our ancestors had enough excessive androgen levels to guzzle down beer on a daily basis, but our generation (Millenniels & Gen-Z) need to be much, much more careful.

      • Stronza
        Posted November 16, 2018 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

        “Perhaps our ancestors had enough excessive androgen levels to guzzle down beer on a daily basis, but our generation (Millenniels & Gen-Z) need to be much, much more careful.”

        You are so right. However, there is non-hops beer (gruit) available as far as I know. Or people who are desperate for low-alcohol drinks can try making gruit themselves. Hops is the herb in regular beer that has an estrogenic effect, for those of you who did not know.

        Gruit is a drink from olden times, a drink much like beer, but made without the use of hops. Instead of hops, bittering herbs of different varieties were used, and there is evidence to support the idea that beer without hops is a different and livelier experience on many levels. Gruit was swept under the rug when beer purity laws ravaged the brewers of Europe in the 1500s, but is now making a revival.

        I wonder who came up with the idea of forcing the inclusion of hops into everything called “beer” and how they made these laws stick.

  6. Roger
    Posted November 15, 2018 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    Greg, I enjoy practically all of your content, and in broad strokes I agree with your message here, but I would like to address the bullet points, from the perspective of a man familiar with a lot of other young people in our milieu:

    -The assumption that German National Socialism is the only authentic form of White Nationalism – certainly there’s a lot of german natsoc idolatry, but literally zero people I’ve met in are “hitler or bust” – this claim actually seems absurd to me, like you’re strawmanning twp in place of us normal folks

    -Advocating the mass extermination of non-whites, race-mixers, and homosexuals, straight from the pages of The Turner Diaries – no argument, although I’ve heard probably 2 people go full exto that is 2 too many

    -A marked upsurge attitudes toward women that can legitimately be labeled misogyny, including the toxic “white sharia” meme and a push to bully female voices into silence – fair enough, but White sharia is a dead meme, and “bully female voices into silence”…yeah no comment

    -A revival of the skinhead subculture of binge drinking and hard drugs – I’ve neither seen nor heard of hard drug use, but it’s not an impossibility. I do not want you to tattle unless there’s a serious health risk, and if that’s the case please contact me directly

    The return of costumed demonstrations and street brawls with Leftists – you were and still are right, we were wrong

    • Threestars
      Posted November 17, 2018 at 1:32 am | Permalink

      >and “bully female voices into silence”…yeah no comment

      I hope you’re not implying that this didn’t actually happened and wasn’t quite high on the agenda of those anti-women troglodytes we used to have. They were describing their purpose as such quite verbatim, for one, and it was always a spectacle of convoluted stupidity when one of them was asked “why?”.

  7. Rob Bottom
    Posted November 15, 2018 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    Pornography should be added to the shortlist of things to avoid alongside drugs and alcohol. That Israel has banned internet porn despite the heavy Jewish involvement in that industry says it all.

  8. dominique_malaparte
    Posted November 16, 2018 at 3:08 am | Permalink

    As for the matter of “race haters” in our movement, haters of Mexicans, haters of Blacks, haters of Jews, it is worth consulting Carl Schmitt: “The political enemy need not be morally evil or aesthetically ugly; he need not appear as an economic competitor . . . . Emotionally the enemy is easily treated as being evil and ugly, because every distinction, most of all the political, as the strongest and most intense of the distinctions and categorizations, draws upon other distinctions for support. This does not alter the autonomy of such distinctions . . . . The friend and enemy concepts are to be understood in their concrete and existential sense, not mixed and weakened by economic, moral and other conceptions, least of all in a private-individualistic sense as a psychological expression of private emotions and tendencies . . . . The enemy is not the private adversary whom one hates. An enemy exists only when, at least potentially, one fighting collectivity of people confronts another collectivity. The enemy is solely the public enemy . . . . The enemy in the political sense need not be hated personally, ”

    And Yockey’s gloss: “Antipathy is no necessary part of the political disjunction of friend and enemy. Hatred is a private phenomenon . . . . Between superpersonal organisms there is no hatred, although there may be existential struggles. The disjunction love-hatred is not political and does not intersect at any point the political one of friend-enemy . . . . Clear thinking in the realm of politics demands at the outset a strong power of dissociation of ideas . . . . Hatred is not contained in political thinking. Any hatred worked up against the public enemy is non-political.”

    • Ambrose Kane
      Posted November 16, 2018 at 9:54 am | Permalink

      “The enemy in the political sense need not be hated personally” . . . “Hatred is not contained in political thinking.” – Well, I guess it all depends. Jews, Blacks and other ‘minorities’ that work so feverishly against White identity and interests are NOT emotionally detached political theorists. This is NOT theoretical for them when one considers what they are actually trying to accomplish. They personally hate us on a massive scale, especially a large percentage of Jews who view us as ready any minute to throw them all into the ovens. This is how they think, and it’s profoundly personal to them.

      So, while I personally do not hate Jews, Blacks and Mexicans on an individual basis (that takes far too much energy and will do nothing but cause me internal grief and bitterness), I completely understand why some Whites do, especially if they’ve been victimized by them physically or monetarily. I may dislike them and it saddens me greatly to see them flood our once great nation, but I can’t say I actually hate them. Perhaps I will feel differentially in my final years?

      I don’t have the time to develop it now, but there is a time and place for hate or hatred. The Bible even commands its followers to “hate evil.” Hatred is part of a plethora of human emotions that are natural and necessary at times. It all depends on who, what or why it is expressed. But to simply condemn all manner of hate, as some do, is misguided in my opinion.

      With that said, I hope I have not misunderstood either Schmidt or Yockey, but the above quotations seem overstated (at least on the surface).

  9. Ambrose Kane
    Posted November 16, 2018 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    I completely agree with Greg on the use of drugs and alcohol among White nationalists. Any notion that we can engage in this sort of behavior and make good decisions on behalf of our people is absurd. It’s plain destructive, and the truth of the matter is that most people cannot function well in life when addicted to narcotics.

    The meth and opioid addiction common among our people is now worse than folks even imagine. These new drugs are stronger, more potent and devastating. Our people are being turned into monsters before our very eyes. If you’ve ever been to the scene of a drug overdose, and had to administer a dosage of ‘Narcan’ to bring them to reality, you’ll know what I mean. The narcotics are so powerfully addictive that when they awaken they’re often angry at being saved from death because the high was so pleasurable! All the logic and pleas for living sober fall on deaf ears when the drugs take hold.

    Even ‘responsible drinking’ is not as common as most people assume. As a cop who worked the streets for decades (now retired), I’ve seen first-hand the lives, families and marriages that have been destroyed by alcohol consumption. I don’t want to sound puritanical, but for crying out loud, the stuff is killing us and rendering us incapable of focusing on the racial threats facing us.

    Our Jewish-Bolshevik overlords are gleeful when White lives are wasted. For them, it’s not enough that they promote immigration policies that displace us, they must constantly invade our spaces with messages about the joy of alcohol, and the benefits of psychotropic drugs so we can be ‘happy’ and ‘fulfilled.’ It’s nothing but lies.

    Being sober and mentally alert, taking care of one’s health and body, eating clean, and being balanced in ones life is NOT just puritanical wisdom. It’s common sense and, if adhered to, will do much to secure for our people and the generations that follow a beautiful and happy future.

  10. Afterthought
    Posted November 16, 2018 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    Well, Greg clearly gets it. What about the solution?

    We need to plant the idea of splitting up the United States firmly in the collecive consciousness.

    Use the same technique as Bob Whitaker’s Mantra and It’s OK to be white. Endless repetition by the nameless footsoldiers. After about a year, the 2020 election will be framed properly, and no matter the outcome, we will be ready.

    Non whites will always be sad to stop leaching off of us, but if the choice is peaceful, honorable reciprocity or war, they will ultimately choose the path of least labor. We can also take their side against the transhumanists.

    The silver lining of the last 2 years is that all of that is dead and buried, of course, the enemy will keep paying people to do WN 1.0 but we just simply say, “that’s not us” and move on. If you want to go deep, you can start talking about Universal Order, but that is best reserved for the right people, times and places.

  11. Posted November 16, 2018 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    To be fair, WN 1.0’ers largely thought Unite the Right was a bad idea. I spent about a month arguing with Billy Roper about it. Roper was right.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted November 17, 2018 at 2:56 am | Permalink

      As is clear above the return of 1.0 was less a matter of people than attitudes.

      What were Roper’s objections? That UTR was not self-marginalizing and NS purist enough for his tastes?

      • Posted November 17, 2018 at 5:08 am | Permalink

        The History of the Alt-Right is like “Dynasty.” The History of Above-Ground “CI” or See-Eye Dentistry is more like “Dallass”

        ZOGbot Silly Roper used to move Pastor Richard Butler around with the supervision of Rick Spring, another federal informant who used to take the Aryan Nations membership applications plus $10 first month’s dues from sundry mamzers wanting to becum corporal-generals in the Aryan Nations and sell said applications to the $PLC and One Primate’s Project. At the same time Katja Lane sold her David Lane stuff to Billy Roper in 2003 after Pierce croaked off in 2002 and so both the CI and Order people forced Roper to commit the Christmas Coup of 2004 against Rabbi Linder’s Virtual Colostomy Bag NNF over TraitorGlenn Miller. Roper had no choice in that matter else Roper would lose all his support from the Identity Christians and the Wodenists and A-theists supporting the Order POWs. ( The Order had a long-standing fracture between the CI elements lead by Bruce Pierce who was Alan Berg’s shooter and David Lane the Neo-Odinist who was the driver. This fracture was papered-over by the Berg killing but never went fully away.) Brad Griffin’s phorafags/feebs forum doubled from those of us banned post-Christmas Coup refugeeing from Linder’s new TraitorGlen Miller NNF.

        After Butler died in September 2004 — alone and dead for 15 hours before the Couer D’Alene police were called to declare him dead, Billy Roper tried to have Rick Spring declared Butler’s successor. But Auggie Kreis, Wicked Wickstrom and Mo Gulett claimed the title and there was much fighting over that. I supported MoGulett even after he went to prison for conspiracy to rob banks for cocaine money until he threw me under the bus for “extremism” over “prion-poisoning” and Biblical castration. Gulett gets 2% per year of the $500,000 plus from the Harold Grooms Estate. Whereupon Billy Roper was with Paul Mullett until the Ohio FBI did what they did with Ray Redfearin and induced a heart attack from a “hot load” of cocaine.

        So now Billy Roper is somewhat independant again as a DSCI baal-priest. A Darwinian-Seedline Confidential Informant, on his fourth See-Eye Dentist single-mother beard girlfriend. Billy Roper hangs around the same old dregs of FBI klansmen trying to detect survivalist groups in Arkansas and thereabouts. I’d get more incensed but I’m not inclined to deprive the FBI of theys’ ZOGtard prey. Fools will hasten to theys’ own destruction be it in Charlottesville or a FBI Klan.

        Actually Greg Johnson’s recounting of the History of the Alt-Right is sort of like recounting the sundry seasons of “Dynasty.” Recounting what happened within See-Eye Dentistry is more like exploring “Dallas” as a prime-time soap opera. Maybe I had ought to do so.

        I councelled everyone not to go to Charlottesville as it was nothing but ZOGbots leading ZOGtards amok. I thought that the Black Lives Matter negroes might gun down whigger tards with the aid of the ZOG piglice. Stay at Home & Stay Alive, I said.

        Real Christian Identity is underground and family oriented. It has several million Whites exposed, mainly through Herbert Armstrong’s WorldWide Church of God, not Wesley Swift’s few thousand cassette-tape ministry. Richard Butler was NOT Wesley Swift’s successor when Swift died in 1970 and Bertrand Comparet retired soon after. Eighty-Five percent of traditional Dual-Seedline Christian-Identity is Comparetian. But papist-preterism and “No Devil” has crept in along with jews like William Finck, Clifton Emahiser, and Bryan Reo. Over the past four years there has been litigation in the federal and Lake County Ohio Courts between the former “Foundation for the MarketPlace of Ideas” lawyer ZOGbots and myself and my Aryan Nations of Missouri Church.

        The bowel Movement, be it White Nationalism 1.0 or Alt-Right 1.0 or See-Eye Dentistry has always been jews, mongrels, perverts, junkies, criminals and ZOGbots. There is no political solution, only inevitable collapse. I see things reverting back to pre-Waco pre-Internet times in 1992 when there were no “Constitutional militias” full of suburban whiggers infiltrated by ZOGbots but rather small survivalist groups led by proto-warlords.

        Hail Victory !!!

        Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
        Church of Jesus Christ Christian / Aryan Nations of Missouri
        Ten Thousand Warlords Project

        • Voryn Illidari
          Posted November 17, 2018 at 7:26 am | Permalink

          Every time this guy (Pastor Lindstedt) posts a comment, it’s written in some weird inside-language riddle that looks like its trying too hard to come across as clever, or something. Dude, just make a normal post and get your point out. I’m guessing your point is that EVERYONE is an informant, or somethin?

          • Greg Johnson
            Posted November 17, 2018 at 10:03 am | Permalink

            He is our James Joyce, our Captain Beefheart. He’s an artist.

      • Posted November 19, 2018 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

        Billy Roper purity spiraled his way out of it.

        He didn’t trust Jason Kessler. He didn’t like a variety of people who were scheduled to speak there. He didn’t trust the plan. You can say he opposed it for the wrong reasons, but it is unfortunate that Jacob Goodwin went and will be paying the price for years. There were a lot of WN 1.0 guys besides Roper who thought it was naive to hold such a large rally.

  12. Requiem for a ribbit
    Posted November 18, 2018 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    WN rn is less a physical movement than a universal metadiscourse, and that is why Spencer’s mishaps of melodramatic physicality are unforgivable. To move forward, to gain momentum and spread wings, this is instinctively what is needed:

    A savvy, stable alternative to Drudge Report that blends daily updates via Counter Currents, TOO and anti-neocon voices like Ryan Dawson, with Fox News, Coulter, Breitbart etc. Drudge Report has served its purpose, and Drudge himself, esp since that deranged synagog shooting, seems to be indulging the worst J tendencies he usually tempers. Drudge is also vulnerable, lagging far far behind the post-meme post-/pol/ zeitgeist since 2016. Yet the influence his site has on white Americans is beyond mega. Any visitor knows lol. (I know veterans and pensioners who check the site 100+ a day min.) Suspicion is that Drudge Report serves to maintain a defeatist Biblically-shaded sky-is-falling alarmism among Boomers, and it worked amazingly to help drag out MENA wars for Netanyahu for a decade.

    In many ways 4chan’s /pol/ was the proto non-Jewish Drudge, but it’s been inevitably flooded. The time is now for a legit lightning fast aggregator that makes WN, millennial alt-right and rightwing MSM a “melting pot.” One that subtly targets the SPLC, ADL, Bill Maher, Israel, and Soros but is solely a curated ego-free voice of hot links. WN needs a vibrant, drug-free healthy base , but it also needs a perpetual online treadmill that keeps us jogging daily, hoursly alongside a pro-white news narrative. Momentum. If some WN wizard cracks the Drudge code, can monetize it, this hits hyper drive.

    • Requiem for a ribbit
      Posted November 19, 2018 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

      Like millions of other anons, I fear doxxing and have doubts that such commitment is financially feasible and sustainable. Yes, this is cowardice, albeit preservation, but the examples stack up. SPLC (and JIDF) have multimillions and fully staffed expanding US offices to ruin challengers. Even /pol/ is being quarantined by owner Hiro, announced this week, due to advertiser (re: SPLC) pressure. If 4chan can be systematically amputated so can I. 2020 determines if the prepped underground or digital overground is how this battle rn is waged, longish short term.

  13. Quicksilver75
    Posted November 18, 2018 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    One of the biggest take aways from the past two years has surely got to be:
    Self discipline in messaging is critical.
    When the hostile Legacy media retains the high ground, an insurgent cultural, political movement cannot sustain multiple self inflicted wounds. People of high IQ, considered judgement & steady temperament must lead.
    Chances cannot be taken on newbies with vague backgrounds or with angry miscreants lusting for the spotlight

  14. P.J. Collins
    Posted November 19, 2018 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    All of these are excellent essays, offering well-formed arguments and a clear chronology one is unlikely to find anywhere else. Rather like encountering coherent art-history criticism for the first time, when all one has done hitherto is look at pictures. Possibly the best work GJ has done.

  15. Amelia
    Posted November 24, 2018 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Richard Spencer and Mike Enoch are basically “David Duke” figures at this point.

    Hailgate ended Spencer’s career, and Pikeville/Shelbyville ended Enoch’s.

    These things happened because they didn’t understand that 1) the Nazi brand is toxic, and 2) there is a difference between memes/the Internet and real world public relations.

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted November 25, 2018 at 4:32 am | Permalink

      Re Enoch and Pikeville: your take is absurd.

      • Amelia
        Posted November 26, 2018 at 3:21 pm | Permalink


        When I say Pikeville I’m not just referring to the actual rally. Enoch associated his brand with Nazism… If someone who doesn’t know who he is Googles him, all they’ll know is “Nazi.” It pretty much ruined his chances of ever becoming mainstream.

        • Greg Johnson
          Posted November 26, 2018 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

          Um, remember The Daily Shoah? Remember Holly Himmler and Kimmy Goebbels of “The Shitlord Report”? The TRS brand was associated with Nazism long before the retard rallies of 2017. TRS never intended to go mainstream. They never thought it would get as big as it did. If they had known, they might have done things differently.

          • Amelia
            Posted November 27, 2018 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

            Fair enough. RamZPaul made a video where he said if Enoch had stayed within the boundaries of what’s socially acceptable, he would’ve been rich, famous, and have millions of listeners. This might be true.

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