Kyle Hunt is an American broadcaster and founder of Renegade Broadcasting, a documentary filmmaker, and a White advocacy activist. His newly-released documentary, Hellstorm (based on historian Thomas Goodrich’s book, Hellstorm: The Death of Nazi Germany, 1944-1947) presents in graphic detail the many heretofore rarely mentioned horrors inflicted upon the German people during and after the Second World War.
MacCrinnan: When did you first read Hellstorm and how soon after that did you decide to make a film based on the book? Was it before or after you first interviewed Thomas Goodrich?
Hunt: I have interviewed Tom on my Renegade Broadcasting show, The Solar Storm, twice. The first time I had not yet read Hellstorm and the second time I had just finished the book. I actually thought Hellstorm should be made into a documentary when speaking to Tom about coming back on the show, and before having actually read the book at all. After completing the book, I knew that I needed to make this documentary.
MacCrinnan: From hearing that first interview, recorded in the Autumn of 2013, it seems you already knew a good deal about the topic even before you read the book. How long had you been studying the subject before?
Hunt: I had been looking into this area for a few years and had also heard multiple interviews with Tom prior to speaking with him.
MacCrinnan: So, why did world Jewry publicly and histrionically declare war on Germany in 1933?
Hunt: It appears the reasons were largely economic. As Winston Churchill told Lord Robert Boothby, “Germany’s most unforgivable crime before the Second World War was her attempt to extricate her economic power from the world’s trading system and to create her own exchange mechanism which would deny world finance its opportunity to profit.”
MacCrinnan: During “The Good War,” first British, and later American air power devastated every German city. Their targets in these raids were not military, but specifically civilian. These “Greatest Generation” pilots and crew intentionally incinerated hundreds of thousands of children, women, rescue workers and fleeing refugees. They purposefully destroyed hospitals, houses, schools, ornate palaces, grand cathedrals (and other centuries-old triumphs of architecture), libraries, theaters, museums, even zoos. What possible war strategy could this kind of carnage serve?
Hunt: Winston Churchill said, “German cities . . . will be subjected to an ordeal the like of which has never been experienced by a country in continuity, severity and magnitude . . . To achieve this end there are no lengths of violence to which we will not go.” One of the reasons the Allies gave for their air campaign, known to the Germans as “terror bombing,” was that they wanted to break the German will to resist, so as to bring a quicker end to the war.
The real reason appears to be that many powerful Jews were not just interested in destroying the Third Reich, but also ridding the world of Germans. This genocidal blood-lust was clearly demonstrated in Theodore Kaufman’s Germany Must Perish! (1941) and the Morgenthau Plan.
MacCrinnan: British Air Marshall, Sir Arthur “Bomber” Harris, developed a particular scientific “formula,” for maximum destruction and civilian death. What was this formula?
Hunt: The scientific formula for decimating German towns and cities involved first bombing a targeted location to bits, then sending British and American bombers back to strafe survivors and rescuers in the open and also ignite with incendiaries (fire bombs) everything that still remained. These bombers unleashed a literal rain of fire, and the thousands of small fires would join to form one huge blaze, which could reach miles into the sky, creating a vortex of wind and flame. Screaming victims were sucked into the inferno, melted to the asphalt, burnt to a crisp, or killed in a number of other gruesome ways.
MacCrinnan: You mentioned The Morgenthau Plan. Henry Morgenthau, Jr., was Secretary of The Treasury during the FDR presidency. He seems to have had an unusually high degree of influence. He really had the president’s ear. Even, it seems, in matters that had little to do, traditionally, with the Department of Treasury. How did he come to have such an influence on FDR and for what policies was he responsible?
Hunt: Morgenthau had become friends with Eleanor and Franklin Delano Roosevelt in 1913. He had worked directly with FDR since being appointed chairman of the New York State Agricultural Advisory Committee and to the state Conservation Commission in 1929 by then Governor Roosevelt. President Roosevelt appointed him governor of the Federal Farm Board In 1933 and then Secretary of the Treasury in 1934. He worked with FDR to implement the New Deal, with one of his biggest successes being considered the Social Security system, and later his complex system of war bonds financed the war effort. It’s hard to determine exactly how far Morgenthau’s influence extended, as a Jew in charge of the nation’s economy, but it is certain that he wielded considerable power at home and abroad.
MacCrinnan: Define The Morgenthau Plan.
Hunt: The Morgenthau Plan was proposed in 1944, and was likely concocted by Morgenthau’s deputy Harry Dexter White, a Jew who was later accused of being a Soviet spy. The plan called for the complete dismantlement of Germany, looting everything of value, getting rid of all industry, and sending the country back to a pre-Industrial Revolution agrarian state. It was estimated that around 50 million Germans (two thirds of the population) would quickly die of starvation if the plan was implemented in its entirety. General George Patton, before meeting an unexpected end, clearly saw what was taking place: “Evidently the virus started by Morgenthau and [Bernard] Baruch of a Semitic revenge against all Germans is still working . . .”
MacCrinnan: It is commonly believed and often repeated that the worst ship disasters during the 20th Century, the ones that killed the most civilians-men, women, and children-were, say, the Titanic (1,517 dead), or the Lusitania (1,198 dead). However, according to Goodrich’s research and book and your film, the Allies purposefully murdered tens of thousands of German refugees who were trying to flee their war-torn homelands by ships.
Hunt: A naval disaster that dwarfs the Lusitania and the Titanic put together is the sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff in 1945. On a freezing day in January, with an estimated 60,000 German refugees crammed onto the docks in Gotenhafen on the Baltic coast, the cruise liner intended for 1,500 passengers ended up taking on board somewhere between 8,000 and 10,000 poor souls who were seeking to escape the Soviet terror. That night, three Soviet torpedoes sent the Gustloff to the bottom of the ocean. Anyone who ended up in the freezing water was dead within a few minutes, and those who were fortunate enough to make it onto the lifeboats had to deal with razor sharp winds and -20 degree temperature. Only 900 people were still alive when the rescue boats arrived.
This was certainly not an isolated incident nor an accident. Soviet submarines and Allied aircraft sought to sink as many of the slow-moving refugee ships as possible, sending thousands and thousands of hapless Germans to an icy grave in only a matter of minutes.
MacCrinnan: The International Red Cross reported that ninety-nine percent of American prisoners of war captured by the Germans survived and safely returned home. Contrast that with General Dwight D. Eisenhower’s Rhine-Meadows death camps: A million German POWs were essentially tortured to death in these camps after Germany surrendered unconditionally in May of 1945. Many other German soldiers were handed off to the Soviets and put into gulags where they perished miserably. Still others were given away as slaves to France and Britain. Exactly how did Eisenhower get away with such a horrendous war crime (bypassing completely the Geneva Convention)?
Hunt: The Geneva Convention would have required Eisenhower to provide the same food, shelter and medical attention to the captive Germans as was available to the victorious Americans. This was obviously unacceptable to the vindictive man, who wished he had been able to kill more Germans during the fighting. To get around the Geneva Convention, Eisenhower reclassified the 5 million prisoners under his control. Instead of treating the Germans as POWs (Prisoners Of War), Eisenhower created the classification of DEFs (Disarmed Enemy Forces), which allowed him to deal with the Germans in secret, however he pleased.
MacCrinnan: What exactly did he do to accomplish such an act of mass torture and murder by means of intentional dehydration, starvation, exposure, and such?
Hunt: Eisenhower created open air prison camps with no shelter, put millions of Germans into them, and severely restricted prisoners’ food and water, even though both were available in great abundance. The International Red Cross was not allowed to provide the suffering Germans with sustenance, while nearby villagers would be shot for trying to sneak food across the fence. In addition to dehydration, starvation, and exposure, the Germans were also killed by beatings, torture, and arbitrary machine gun fire from sadistic guards. All of this was done in secret, with no oversight, but some word of the atrocities did leak out. To counter this, a propaganda campaign was put forth that claimed the rations in the prison camps were so good that many released German prisoners were actually sneaking back into camps for the top-notch treatment.
MacCrinnan: Why on earth did Ike hate these German soldiers, and the German people so much?
It makes one wonder. As a soldier himself, with many young men under his command, did he not realize that these Germans-like their American counter-parts-had fought hard and now just wanted to return home?
Hunt: Eisenhower wrote to his wife in 1944, “God, I hate the Germans.” His hatred drove him to kill far more German soldiers in peace time than he was able to kill during the war. Since Eisenhower’s military yearbook from West Point allegedly referred to him as the “terrible Swedish Jew,” it could be argued that it was Eisenhower’s Jewish heritage that fueled his desire to brutally murder as many Germans as possible. Though Eisenhower’s Jewishness is up for debate, his actions were completely in line with the Jewish plan for the complete destruction of the German people. It seems Eisenhower did not view the helpless, defeated Germans as even human, or worthy of any kind of compassion. This is in stark contrast to how the Germans treated their prisoners, as evidenced by a statement from Alan Wood of the London Express, “I have come up against few instances where Germans have not treated prisoners according to the rules [The Geneva Convention], and respected the Red Cross.”
MacCrinnan: As you stated earlier, ten thousand German men, women, and children died in “the greatest ship disaster in history,” the Wilhelm Gustloff. That mass icy death at sea was a calamity soon to be followed by millions of more German deaths in what Goodrich calls, “the greatest death march in history.” This episode is perhaps best understood as another part of the overall “Semitic revenge,” as a disdainful General Patton put it: the expulsion of over twelve million ethnic Germans from Prussia, Pomerania, and Silesia.
Hunt: This horrific episode, which has been largely hidden or forgotten in the annals of history, is described well by two quotations in the book, Hellstorm.
American academic Austin J. App wrote:
Cannot each of us write a letter to President Truman and another to each of our senators begging them not to make the United States a partner to the greatest mass atrocity so far recorded in history? Calling it the greatest mass atrocity so far recorded in history is not rhetoric. It is not ignorance of history. It is sober truth.
To slice three or four ancient provinces from a country, then loot and plunder nine million people of their houses, farms, cattle, furniture, and even clothes, and then . . . expel them ‘from the land they have inhabited for 700 years’ with no distinction ‘between the innocent and the guilty’ . . . to drive them like unwanted beasts on foot to far-off provinces, unprotected, shelterless, and starving is an atrocity so vast that history records none vaster.
Anne O’Hare McCormick wrote in the New York Times, “The scale of this resettlement and the conditions in which it takes place are without precedent in history. No one seeing its horrors firsthand can doubt that it is a crime against humanity.”
MacCrinnan: The Jewish Bolshevist writer Ilya Grigoryevich Ehernburg is credited with inventing the six million dead Jews figure and introducing the Jew-fat soap hoax at the Nuremberg Trials. What else was he responsible for?
Hunt: Ilya Ehrenburg was a prominent propagandist in the USSR. He encouraged Soviet soldiers to rape, murder, and terrorize their way through Germany. A typical directive was:
Kill them all, men, old men, children and the women, after you have amused yourself with them! Kill. Nothing in Germany is guiltless, neither the living nor the yet unborn. . . . Break the racial pride of the German women. Take her as your legitimate booty. Kill, you brave soldiers of the victorious Soviet Army.
MacCrinnan: Something happened in the East Prussian town of Nemersdorf and its surrounding areas in late October of 1944. At that time, because the war was raging in Europe, almost all of the men of military age were away fighting and the town was populated mostly by women and children, with only a few men, most of them elderly. What atrocities occurred there, and what sort of precedent did it set all throughout Germany and wherever ethnic German civilians could be found?
Hunt: After the German Wehrmacht recaptured the town, they were horrified. The residents of Nemmersdorf had been raped, tortured, and brutally killed. Women were crucified with nails to barn doors and carts, men were castrated and sawn in half, and babies had their heads smashed in. The people who had only been shot were the lucky ones. German authorities brought in international witnesses to report on the atrocities, but after years of propaganda vilifying the German people, no one on the world stage cared about what was happening at the hands of the Soviets. However, when the German army received word of what had happened, it only strengthened their will to resist, fighting to the last bullet to protect their people, even though the war was past winning at that point. They knew that Nemmersdorf was only a preview of the horror to come as the Red Army advanced.
MacCrinnan: It is well-documented that Soviet troops (particularly the Jewish commissar-led Mongol second wave supply troops) committed vicious, torturous rapes and gang-rapes and murders almost constantly everywhere they went on the eastern front. What has gotten almost no historical attention-until now, however-is that the Americans and Brits (again, particularly the supply troops) were guilty of the same kind of thing.
Hunt: Although the Americans and British, on the whole, may not have been as bad as the Soviets, that was little consolation to the many victims of their crimes. A US Sergeant admitted, “Our own Army and the British Army . . . have done their share of looting and raping. . . . We too are considered an army of rapists.” Rape and brutality were common, but many British and American soldiers discovered that they could get what they wanted from the starved German girls and women by offering them some food in return for sexual surrender.
MacCrinnan: The Nuremberg Trials are popularly portrayed as that great historical moment when those wicked, humanity-hating Nazis were finally brought to justice. In reality, in your opinion, had those trials any merit or validity at all? Were they anything but an absolute sham and mockery of justice?
Hunt: The Nuremberg Trials were a travesty of justice and mark a low point in the Western legal tradition. Leaders of the NSDAP were put on trial for crimes that the Allies had actually committed against Germans during the course of World War II and afterward. “Defendants” were denied eyewitnesses and proper counsel, tortured with great zeal so as to obtain confessions, put on show for the world, found guilty with little or no real evidence, then killed.
The World Jewish Congress, which was a leading proponent for the trials, made sure that the focus of the proceedings was on Germany’s persecution of Jews. This set the narrative for the sacred “Holocaust,” which if questioned in any way, will land a person in prison in many parts of the world.
US Congressman John Rankin of Mississippi said, “As a representative of the American people I desire to say that what is taking place in Nuremberg, Germany, is a disgrace to the United States… A racial minority [Jews], two and a half years after the war closed, are in Nuremberg not only hanging German soldiers but trying German businessmen in the name of the United States.”
Many other people spoke up about the disgrace of the Nuremberg Trials, including those directly involved, but their statements, like the crimes of the victors, have been buried under decades of Allied propaganda.
MacCrinnan: What was the “de-Nazification” experience like for the average German citizen?
Hunt: De-Nazification was the policy of replacing “Nazis” or sympathizers in German society with people favored by the Allied conquerors, such as Communists. De-Nazification essentially made it so that not only were the leaders of the NSDAP put on trial, but also the average German citizen. Every adult German was required to report to interrogation centers for questioning about their previous activities. After initial questioning, Germans would often be dragged back in for further interrogation and tortured until they supplied whatever statements were desired.
These poor survivors of the horror of World War II had no recourse to the law, no protection from the abuse, and very little sympathy from the rest of the world.
MacCrinnan: It seems in the making of the film you had quite a bit of difficulty finding Germans, in particular, both men and women to volunteer for voice work. Is that correct, and if so, why do you think that is? Technically, Germany has been an occupied country since 1945, and while many Whites in the West are either totally brain-washed or else frightened to speak of what they know to be true, is this possibly even more true for the Deutsche Volk?
Hunt: I think “German guilt” trumps even “White guilt” in terms of the devastating effects of decades and decades of propaganda. Even if Germans know that the official history of World War II is false, they could be thrown into prison for saying so, or at least lose family, friends, and employment. Despite the demoralization campaign, there is still a spark of life left in the German folk, and many of them have been stepping forward to lend their voices to the material, often anonymously. The Germans with whom I have come in contact realize how important it is to set the record straight and finally show what the war and subsequent “peace” was really like for the losing side of the conflict.
MacCrinnan: So, other than your ongoing work at Renegade Broadcasting, what can we expect next from Kyle Hunt? Do you have any future documentary projects in mind, for example?
Hunt: Though I’m not at liberty to make the details public at the moment, you can expect some great things, including some exciting film projects.
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