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You Can Never Be Too Right Wing!

Jonathan Bowden

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Edited by Alex Kurtagić 

Editor’s Note: 

The following excerpt is from Jonathan Bowden’s Frenzy, a book he finished writing before April 3, 1994. The text has been mildly edited for punctuation, spelling, and capitalization.

As far as my own political views are concerned, I do not believe you can be too Right wing. My own views are based on a form of active “nihilism,” which believes that nothing can be defined—although this does not mean that nothing is true and everything is permitted, in the words of Hassan i Sabbah, the spiritual leader of the Assassins, a Mediaeval Islamic death-squad. Indeed, the fact that nothing exists makes it imperative that humans beings give a meaning to the world. The fact that existence has no meaning or purpose makes it incumbent upon us to dredge up a meaning from the void. It is as if the contingency and aimlessness of existence has to be replaced by an act of Will. As a consequence, I believe that humanity itself is an act of Will, which looks to itself as a form of strength. All of which means that I look to the purposeless energy of existence that gives life meaning.

The reason why I support the Right against the Left is that the Right supports structures that already exist and that give life meaning. The Right, in other words, supports those structures that exist at the present and that communicate value and identity to the citizen. Of course, everything the Left says about the Right is true, and this is why the Right needs to be supported against the Left. The Left declares quite correctly that the Right is racist, sexist, and elitist—all of which is correct because you cannot have a civilization that is not hierarchical and elitist. If you like, the Right preserves difference, inequality, between groups, and it gives meaning to life because it orders things hierarchically. If things are to be defined, if they are to be named, then they have to be placed on different levels—a definition that is based on equality, an absence of distinction, is null and void. Or, at least, it is a purely temporary expedient: a ploy: something that people believe in because it suits their case. As a consequence, a civilization cannot exist without hierarchy or inequality—the poor will always be with us—and without social inequality there is nothing to aspire to. There will always be a working class, a middle class, and an upper class, with a certain amount of movement between them, but class stratification will always exist. It is necessary for the preservation of a civilized order, in that without inequality there can be no distinction, and without distinctiveness there is an absence of social meaning. For something to have a meaning, in short, it has to be different from something else: it has to take the measure of its own distance. Or—as Moeller van den Bruck remarked in Germany’s Third Empire, a revolutionary conservative or neo-restorationist work—once a prole, always a prole.

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5 comments

  1. Séamus says:
    February 18, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    Surely there is more to aspire to in life than one’s place within a hierarchy?

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  2. meh says:
    February 19, 2013 at 4:25 am

    “Surely there is more to aspire to in life than one’s place within a hierarchy?”

    You have to measure yourself against something. Try “aspiring” to something without role models, goals, judges, tests, standards, and measurements of some kind – that’s what hierarchy is and that’s what hierarchy does. Without hierarchy of some kind, you can “aspire” to whatever you want but it is pretty meaningless if you “win” simply because you are a unique snowflake just like all the other unique snowflakes.

    No one should trust their own judgement solely without some external reality checks. Even wildly individualistic types have their own hierarchies. It’s not necessarily a hierarchy of the Powers-that-be but it is a hierarchy of a kind.

    A society that knows how to fit people together usefully into these hierarchical groups is going to function together better than one that tells everyone they are all equally special and then abandons them to try to figure out their place on their own. Modern social apathy is directly linked to this rejection of hierarchy; the social machinery is broken and we tell people that this is the way things are supposed to be and they are now “free to choose” their own path when we’ve wrecked the path.

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  3. John Morgan says:
    February 19, 2013 at 7:36 am

    I wonder if Jonathan would have written these same words 10 years later. If this was the definition of the Right he had in 1994, his view seems to have deepened and got more sophisticated later. It actually reminds me a bit of justifications that Communist intellectuals such as Jean-Paul Sartre gave in defense of their politics – life has no essential meaning apart from what we give it, so why not become Communists? His argument here could be summed up as, “Well, the Right wants to defend institutions that already exist, and they worked well, and besides, societies can’t function without hierarchies.” Not terribly convincing, in my view. Personally, I don’t see how one could be both a nihilist and a Rightist, and Jonathan’s later lectures don’t sound nihilistic in spirit to me.

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  4. rhondda says:
    February 20, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Thank you for saying what you said Mr. Morgan. When I read this, I went running to find a definition of nihilism. There are many, but the one that caught my mind was a 1941 essay by Leo Strauss about German Nihilism. It was very clever and well argued except for the fact he used as his authority Hermann Rauschning. That name rang a bell and he wrote Hitler Speaks. I read that book because in one of Savitri Devi’s books she goes off on a tangent about Rauschning. Also, revisionists have debunked the facts in his book. It was very clear to me that she was right. It was an imaginative discourse claiming to be true. True as in the many tales of Auschwitz that could not have possibly happened. I realized that oh dear, I was entering verboten territory. Who am I to dispute the great Leo Strauss? But the question really is who has he fooled? If he is wrong here, where else is he wrong? Clearly, something I cannot answer. I have only read his Persecution and the Art of Writing which I found both sinister and fascinating and beyond me in many ways.

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  5. Bobby says:
    February 20, 2013 at 11:47 pm

    It is almost IMPOSSIBLE to exaggerate the damage the liberal left has done to Western Nations. It would take a large tome, to even begin to state the horrible consequences of allowing leftist control to reign in the Western World for some hundred years now. Mr. Bowden diagnoses the problem accurately, “…….the right supports structures that already exist and give life meaning”. This is the key, the answer, to why the Western World is in a total state of chaos today.

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(2 votes) Morris van de Camp David M. Zsutty Derek Stark Jayant Bhandari Greg Johnson

Articles of May

The Lunch Wars by David M. Zsutty Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One by Collin Cleary 2 votes
    • Editor’s Update
      Fundraiser Update, a New $20,000 Matching Grant, & Rob Rundo Returns to Counter-Currents Radio

      Greg Johnson

    • The Counter-Currents 2026 Fundraiser
      Lifetime Subscriber Welcome Packages Extended

      Greg Johnson

    • Nationalism This Week
      Who’s Looking Back?

      Greg Johnson

      10

    • China’s Threat to American Security:
      Food, Farmland, Foreign Control, & Energy Policy

      Lipton Matthews

      1

    • The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part Two

      Collin Cleary

      2

    • The Killing of Henry Nowak

      Mark Gullick

      24

    • The Crisis of Chinese Technology Thieves

      Morris van de Camp

      1

    • The Strange World of Gender Bender Fiction:
      & What This Genre Tells Us About Autosexuality

      Dani Vypont

      3

    • Watching the Watchers:
      The Dark Triad Question

      David M. Zsutty

      14

    • The Remigration Movement Solidifies

      F. Roger Devlin

      1

    • Casting Aspersions:
      The Fatal Consequences of Race-Swapped Casting, From Helen of Troy to Henry of Southampton

      Steven Tucker

      19

    • The Murder of Henry Nowak

      Millennial Woes

      23

    • Don’t Forget to Vote in Our Writer & Article of the Month Poll

      Greg Johnson

    • The Robot Hotdog Stand

      Greg Johnson

      34

    • Laughing Our Way to Victory

      Dave Chambers

      4

    • The Zodiac Killer

      Mark Gullick

      11

    • Jared Taylor: What Rome Means to Me

      Jared Taylor

      1

    • An Interview with Endeavour:
      My Way of Life Is an Adventure!

      Ondrej Mann

      6

    • José Pedro Zúquete’s The Identitarians

      Greg Johnson

      3

    • Editor’s Update
      Fundraiser Update & How to Watch the Remigration Summit

      Greg Johnson

      5

    • The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One

      Collin Cleary

      11

    • Berlin: City of Stones

      Spencer J. Quinn

      6

    • True Folk-Horror Is Horror of Your Own Folk:
      Mark Gatiss vs the Brexit Blind Dead  

      Steven Tucker

      4

    • Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 689
      Thomas Massie, the America 2050 Bust, the Need for Whites to Divest from America, the AI Economic Apocalypse, & Pro-White Project Pitches to Billionaires

      Counter-Currents Radio

      7

    • Nationalism This Week
      Remigration is Inevitable, Part 3

      Greg Johnson

      26

    • Why Billionaires Should Fund White Identity Politics

      Lipton Matthews

      8

    • How Cold War Two Came About

      Morris van de Camp

      5

    • Now Available for Pre-Order at a Special Price!
      Greg Johnson’s The Philosopher Is In

      Greg Johnson

    • David Zsutty’s Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire

      David M. Zsutty

      1

    • Headbanging Lite

      Mark Gullick

      5

    • White Advocacy Past and Present

      Peter Bradley

      13

    • The Lunch Wars

      David M. Zsutty

      47

    • The Russians are Coming/The Russians are Coming

      Steven Clark

      1

    • Peak Fatigue in Fort Wayne

      Gabriel Anderson

      24

    • Keith Woods’ Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire

      Keith Woods

    • The Cruelty of Kindness

      Morris van de Camp

      9

    • Predation Wearing the Mask of Civilization

      Jayant Bhandari

      13

    • The Mandalorian & Grogu

      Trevor Lynch

      24

    • Editor’s Update
      Fundraiser Update & a New $20,000 Matching Grant
      Greg Johnson & David Zsutty Discuss Thomas Massie on Counter-Currents Radio

      Greg Johnson

      2

    • How the Jews Defeated Thomas Massie—& Themselves

      David M. Zsutty

      24

    • Jared Taylor’s Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire

      Jared Taylor

      15

    • Nationalism This Week
      Remigration Is Inevitable, Part 2

      Greg Johnson

      8

    • Could Fascism Work?

      Mark Gullick

      40

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 7

      Jonathan Bowden

    • China’s Quiet Hand:
      Influence, Infiltration, & the Western Blind Spot

      Lipton Matthews

      9

    • Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 688
      Tyler Dykes on Running for US Congress in South Carolina

      Counter-Currents Radio

      3

    • Lothrop Stoddard’s The Revolt Against Civilization

      Spencer J. Quinn

      14

    • Lewis Strauss Did Nothing Wrong:
      How the politics of the Atom Bomb during the early Cold War Apply to Artificial Intelligence Today

      Morris van de Camp

      14

    • The Ghost of the Confederacy

      Dave Chambers

      12

    • America’s Century of Humiliation has Begun

      Greg Johnson

      27

    • Mark Gullick

      The Killing of Henry Nowak

      Look up the British BIT. I forget what it stands for, but it is known as the "nudge unit". I bet a...

    • Stronza

      The Killing of Henry Nowak

      Here's the entire sentencing statement by the judge. https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/...

    • Will Williams

      Crosstown Traffic

      ...His girlfriend of the time was undergoing serious investigation by another biographer of Hendrix’...

    • YT

      Who’s Looking Back?

      Also, we’re not speaking about “true AI”, are we? True AI - HAL from Kubrick’s 2001 - suggests real...

    • Will Williams

      America Has Already Lost the Iran War

      US Warships Flee Oman Sea after Iranian Navy’s Missile WarningJune, 05, 2026 – Politics...

    • Hi-Ya!

      Who’s Looking Back?

      17.68 It will appear a handsome deed To have made, of yourself, a party of one.

    • YT

      Who’s Looking Back?

      I’m not even 60, and this is the second CC article read today which I really don’t understand. The...

    • Peter Quint

      Casting Aspersions

      Maybe he is one of those reptilians we have been hearing about. 🙃

    • Peter Quint

      The Killing of Henry Nowak

      Unfortunately, you are correct; there’s not enough racial loyalty out there to kill a piss-ant...

    • Tye

      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part Two

      Fascinating series I have followed since the beginning. This bird’s eye view piece has been...

    • Vagrant Rightist

      Who’s Looking Back?

      Yes. No one knows where this data is going. I’ve never used an AI for anything personal and never...

    • Connor McDowell

      The Killing of Henry Nowak

      Apparently, Nowak’s father has come out with a statement of “please let’s not make this about race...

    • Sigurd

      The Murder of Henry Nowak

      I'm really having a hard time trying to figure out if those police officers who made the arrest are...

    • DarkPlato

      Who’s Looking Back?

      What math problems do you use ai for?  It’s ever so wonderful.  It can solve them better...

    • kolokol

      Who’s Looking Back?

      Never sign up for AI. You're asking for trouble, if you do. I only use Google AI-mode, because it...

    • kolokol

      China’s Threat to American Security

      This is a disturbing article. I respect China, but I don't fear them. They are strong and...

    • Peter Quint

      Who’s Looking Back?

      Someone please break this tie for “writer of the month,” or it is going to be a long citation...

    • Rough Bastard

      Casting Aspersions

      Fvcking hilarious. Murphy exudes something very unsavory and strange, in a bad way.

    • Peter Quint

      Who’s Looking Back?

      Great article! I am glad I am a low-tech guy. 🙃

    • Glide Ratio 0:1

      Casting Aspersions

      Absolutely, very good looking cast. At least the younger characters. Everything else was still a...

    • Earth Day Special

      John Morgan

      12

    • A Robertson Roundup
      Remembering Wilmot Robertson
      (April 16, 1915 – July 8, 2005)

      Margot Metroland

      13

    • The Paranoid Style in White Nationalism

      Greg Johnson

      30

    • Join the Dance!

      Andrew Hamilton

      1

    • We Can’t Save the Earth Without Reducing African Birth Rates

      James Dunphy

      36

    • “I’m Not a Conspiracy Theorist, but . . .”:
      Jeffrey Epstein’s Death Gives New Life to “Conspiracy Theories”

      Greg Johnson

      22

    • Sylvia Plath: Stasis in Darkness

      Vic Olvir

      17

    • Vanguardism, Vantardism, & Mainstreaming

      Greg Johnson

      80

    • Aviation, Geography, & Race

      Charles Lindbergh

      3

    • Some Thoughts on Yule

      Collin Cleary

      4

    • Living in Truth:
      A Yuletide Homily

      Jef Costello

      7

    • John Kennedy Toole’s A Confederacy of Dunces

      Greg Johnson

      20

    • On Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s Warning to the West

      Spencer J. Quinn

      7

    • Elitism, British Modernism, & Wyndham Lewis

      Jonathan Bowden

      6

    • Philip K. Dick’s Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? as Anti-Semitic/Christian-Gnostic Allegory

      Greg Johnson

      20

    • “Conspiracy Theory” or Conspiracy?

      Andrew Hamilton

      21

    • Remembering H. P. Lovecraft
      (August 20, 1890–March 15, 1937)

      Greg Johnson

      3

    • Who Are We?
      Nordics, Aryans, & Whites

      Greg Johnson

      71

    • Remembering William Gayley Simpson
      (July 23, 1892–December 31, 1990)
      A Pleasant Afternoon with Harriet & Bill Simpson

      Margot Metroland

      18

    • Here are the Young Men
      Remembering Ian Curtis
      (July 15, 1956–May 18, 1980)

      Mark Gullick

      18

    • Percy Grainger
      Artist of the Right

      Alex Graham

      7

    • Remembering Revilo Oliver
      (July 7, 1908–August 20, 1994)

      Greg Johnson

      18

    • The Meaning of July 4th for the White Man

      Gregory Hood

      13

    • The Front National’s Evolution

      Bruno Mégret

    • Merwin K. Hart
      Forgotten American Hero & Man of the Right

      Morris van de Camp

      10

    • George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four

      Jonathan Bowden

      8

    • Carleton S. Coon
      Scientist & Reluctant White Advocate

      Morris van de Camp

      3

    • The Kwanzaa Absurdity Will Be Dwarfed by Juneteenth

      Robert Hampton

      10

    • Stravinsky

      Alex Graham

      7

    • Like the Roman:
      Remembering Enoch Powell (1912-1998)

      Mark Gullick

      23

    • Institutions Cannot Be Transplanted

      Jayant Bhandari

      5

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 5

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Crosstown Traffic:
      Jimi Hendrix & The Post-War Rock ‘N’ Roll Revolution

      Mark Gullick

      1

    • Slaves from the North:
      Finns & Karelians in the East European Slave Trade, 900–1600

      Lipton Matthews

      14

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 4

      Karel Veliky

      2

    • David Lean’s A Passage to India

      Spencer J. Quinn

      1

    • Elites are Essential to Development

      Lipton Matthews

      7

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 4

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 3

      Karel Veliky

      6

    • E. M. Forster’s A Passage to India & the Indian Mentality

      Spencer J. Quinn

      25

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 3

      Jonathan Bowden

    • The Rest Is Silence
      Heidegger’s Quietism

      Mark Gullick

      2

    • Dispelling the Historical Fallacy of Indian Nationalism

      Lipton Matthews

      8

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 2

      Karel Veliky

      8

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 2

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Life of a Klansman

      Mark Gullick

      8

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance, Part 1

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Decolonial Ideas are Holding Back Developing Countries

      Lipton Matthews

      8

    • Neo-fascism in Film, Part 1

      Karel Veliky

      21

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 8
      Divigations on Decadence

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 7
      Intrigues in the National Front

      Jonathan Bowden

      1

    • Rotten to the Core

      Mark Gullick

      8

    • Strauss on Husserl’s “Philosophy as Rigorous Science”

      Greg Johnson

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 6
      Francis Bacon & Right-Wing Nihilism

      Jonathan Bowden

    • London After (& Before) Midnight:
      Aleister Crowley, The Landlord’s Worst Nightmare

      James J. O'Meara

      2

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 5
      The Post-War British Far Right

      Jonathan Bowden

    • No Rules: Rollerball

      Mark Gullick

      4

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 3
      Brett Easton Ellis’ American Psycho

      Jonathan Bowden

    • An Alternate History of the Harris Presidency

      Beau Albrecht

      5

    • The Origins of Mass Education:
      Augustina S. Paglayan’s Raised to Obey

      Francis Rockwell

      4

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Writer & Article of the Month May 2026

Voting for this month has concluded. Here are the final results!

Top Writers

  • #1 Morris van de Camp 2 votes
  • #2 David M. Zsutty 2 votes
  • #3 Derek Stark 2 votes
  • #4 Jayant Bhandari 2 votes
  • #5 Greg Johnson 2 votes
  • #6 Jared Taylor 1 vote
  • #7 Collin Cleary 1 vote
  • #8 Spencer J. Quinn 1 vote
  • #9 Mark Gullick 1 vote
  • #10 Lipton Matthews 1 vote
  • #11 Keith Woods 1 vote
  • #12 Steven Tucker 1 vote

Top Articles

  • #1 The Lunch Wars 2 votes
  • #2 Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One 2 votes
  • #3 Could Fascism Work? 1 vote
  • #4 Jared Taylor's Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire 1 vote
  • #5 Predation Wearing the Mask of Civilization 1 vote
  • #6 Peak Fatigue in Fort Wayne 1 vote
  • #7 Keith Wood's Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire 1 vote
  • #8 Do You Want to Play a Game? 1 vote
  • #9 Why Billionaires Should Fund White Identity Politics 1 vote
  • #10 The 1970s: The Golden Age of Hijacking 1 vote
  • #11 True Folk-Horror Is Horror of Your Own Folk 1 vote
  • #12 Finding Atlantis Part 4 1 vote
  • #13 Berlin: City of Stones 1 vote
  • #14 The Ghost of the Confederacy 1 vote
  • #15 Lothrop Stoddard’s The Revolt Against Civilization 1 vote

Total votes cast: 17