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The 2012 US Presidential Election

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On November 5, 2008, I wrote an article arguing that the election of Barack Obama as president of the United States was a good thing for White Nationalism. And I was right. Thus I am going to copy and quote liberally from that article to argue that four more years of Obama will be good for White Nationalism as well.

Whites will regain control over our nations and our destiny only when we have a change of consciousness. First, we must again think of ourselves as a distinct ethnic group with distinct interests—interests that often conflict with those of other ethnic groups. Second, we must again believe that we are entitled—nay, obligated—to take our own side when our interests conflict with those of other groups.

Currently white identity and interests have been suppressed by the ideologies of universalism, multiculturalism, and white guilt. White consciousness and pride still exist, of course, but have been driven into the subconscious mind. Our race is a sleeping giant. The task of White Nationalism is to awaken it. And four more years of Barack Obama in the White House can only help us.

As in 2008, the present presidential campaign has been racially divisive and polarizing, and that is a good thing. Countless whites have become newly conscious of their distinct racial identity and interests. Of course the Republican candidate, Mitt Romney, is doing nothing to encourage this process, making every effort to woo the zero point zero something percent of the Black vote that he will receive in November — which will be pretty much the number he can expect due to voter error. As for white voters, well he can take those for granted.

A Romney victory would only dissipate this tendency to greater white racial consciousness. If Romney wins, it will predictably be blamed on Republican racism, even though Obama would presumably be defeated by racist Democrats refusing to vote for him, since most Republicans never would vote for a Democrat, black or white, anyway. Nevertheless, a Romney administration inaugurated under a cloud of whining about white racism would do everything in its power not to further white racial consciousness.

Four more years of an Obama presidency, however, will only intensify racial polarization and stimulate greater white racial consciousness and self-assertiveness. More of our sleeping people will awaken.

Whites, furthermore, will retake our nation only when we realize, finally, that it has been taken away from us. For the better part of a century, the United States has been ruled by a coalition of rootless white plutocrats and ethnocentric Jews, with the power of the Jews steadily growing at the expense of the whites. This ruling elite uses non-whites to gain advantage over the white majority, depressing our wages and diluting our political power.

For the white elites, it is more a status game than anything else. These people feel superior to lower class whites by advancing the interests of non-whites at the expense of those people: integrating those people’s schools and neighborhoods, sacrificing those people’s jobs, families, and futures with Affirmative Action, etc.

For Jews it is a much more serious game. They are after power. They use racial integration and non-white immigration to destroy the white working and middle classes (the kind of people who would vote for a racial nationalism other than Zionism), and they use affirmative action to crowd out the white elites (since there are not enough Jews to replace the entire white elite).

It is very difficult, however, to convince most whites that our country is ruled by race-traitors and aliens who govern on our backs and against our interests. It is hard, because most people will not listen to an argument, much less read the 624 pages of Wilmot Robertson’s The Dispossessed Majority. Most people believe their eyes, and nothing else. And when they looked at their televisions, they saw white men in the White House.

Now they see Barack Obama. That represents real progress. It is truth in advertising. The symbolism now reveals rather than conceals the substance. This has not been our country for a long time. And now it no longer looks like our country. The last thing we need is another white face on a system that is promoting nothing less than the genocide of the white race.

In 2008, I wrote:

There is no telling how Barack Obama will govern their country. There is no point in examining his platform or promises. He is a politician, after all. It is easy to tell when he is lying: his lips move. It is likely, however, that Obama will turn out rather like Bill Clinton. Both men may be Leftists by conviction. But, for them, there is something far more important than their convictions, namely, themselves. They are posturing, narcissistic empty suits.

Obama, like Clinton, will probably begin his administration with an orgy of high-minded oratory and high-priced social uplift programs, rapidly wear out his welcome, suffer a series of humiliating defeats, and end his administration as a centrist: exhausted, cynical, morally-compromised, an object of near-universal scorn. Despite this, Obama might gain re-election, if the Republicans nominate another old, feeble moderate like Bob Dole or John McCain—someone fit only to lose gracefully. In fact, I would bank on it.

I think I pretty much nailed it.

I also argued that a failed Obama presidency would be a good thing for White Nationalists for two reasons. First, it is probably best that Obama not be able to enact far Left programs. Second, the threat of such programs will energize the Right. As I wrote then:

During the Clinton years, there was a great deal of energy on the right. Remember the conservative writers and commentators who offered principled, passionate, and inspiring critiques of liberalism—only to metamorphose into unprincipled Republican shills when George W. Bush was elected? Remember the conservative idealism and activism—exploited by phonies like Newt Gingrich? There was also, frankly, a lot of nasty personal hatred of Bill Clinton and his wife. But hatred, like all forms of energy, can be channeled into good things. . . . Obama (and his wife) will create similar energy on the Right.

I wrote this just a few months before the birth of the Tea Party.

But I also said something that turned out to be almost completely wrong:

And this time White Nationalists are positioned to channel this energy into advancing our agenda. To give just one example: Now that a non-white has been elected president, it is possible to mobilize new energies and funds to abolish Affirmative Action as unnecessary.

Obama gave White Nationalists a golden opportunity, and for the most part we blew it. Why? Because instead of channeling racial discontent in our direction, too many of us allowed system politicians to channel our energies and funds into dead ends. Because instead of investing in our own movement, too many of us fell for the folly of “mainstreaming.” The same people who had been giddy over the Ron Paul movement in 2008 became giddy over the Tea Party and then over Ron Paul all over again.

Yes, of course Ron Paul and the Tea Party advocate forms of race-blind classical liberalism, which is philosophically opposed to White Nationalism. Yes, of course Ron Paul and the Tea Party went out of their way not to be branded racist. Yes, of course Ron Paul and the Tea Party were all too glad to take the money and labor of White Nationalists, so long as they gave us nothing in return.

Libertarians understand the power of ideas and the necessity of metapolitics. Libertarians spent decades laying the intellectual and organizational groundwork that made Ron Paul and Tea Party possible. Only a fundamental lack of appreciation for ideas and principles, a fundamental lack of seriousness, can explain why some White Nationalists thought they could somehow ride on the coattails of Ron Paul and the Tea Party . . . and arrive at anything like White Nationalism, which libertarians reject as immoral in principle.

Part of the trouble, of course, is that, aside from the issue of race, a lot of White Nationalists are nothing but classical liberals or conservative Republicans anyway.

Another part of the problem is sheer giddiness. After decades of White Nationalism going nowhere, it was nice to be part of a movement that was going somewhere. Just look at the crowds! And too many of our people were willing to overlook the fact that Ron Paul and the Tea Party were going in the wrong direction.

So we were counseled to shut up, blend in, and work to spread non-racialist ideas, advance non-racialist agendas, and elect non-racialist politicians. Unsurprisingly, none of this advanced our cause. What is surprising is that anybody thought it would.

How do we advance White Nationalism? By articulating and spreading our own message, not the message of our enemies. By working and donating our money to build up our own institutions, not those of our enemies. There are legions of libertarians and paleocons and Republicans. They can take care of themselves. But fully awakened White Nationalists are a rare and precious breed. If we don’t put our time and money into spreading our own message, building our own institutions, and developing our own community nobody else will.

For more on the folly of mainstreaming, see my articles:

I concluded my original article by arguing that the economic crisis would also provide immense opportunities for White Nationalists. That is still true, no matter who wins the upcoming election. For decades, movement people have been saying that the white masses will not be receptive to our message until there is a major economic downturn. There is a lot of truth in this view, although it has also functioned as an excuse for inactivity.

Well, we are almost four years into downturn, and White Nationalists have done precious little to invest in the ideas and infrastructure necessary to get our message out to an increasingly receptive white majority. That’s why you should give a donation to Counter-Currents today.

We are trying to raise $25,000 this year, which will buy you a plate of food at some Republican and Democratic fundraisers. We have raised $18,000 so far, for which we are deeply grateful. In this season of political profligacy, I can’t resist quoting an article I wrote two years ago:

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  1. me
    Posted September 10, 2012 at 6:54 am | Permalink

    Greg is entitled to his opinion. On the other hand, consider the following:

    “It’s true Romney is a System candidate. All the System candidates are 100 percent committed to the Jews and Israel. Obama doesn’t have any real conflict, that’s just made up nonsense.

    A lot of people are saying things like “worse is better”, but I think it’s important to defeat the quota-hire Black for at least a symbolic victory.

    Are we supposed to allow the mulatto Obama to stay in the White House for two terms? This sends a message that “Obama is a winner” and it encourages millions of White women to think that “Black men are OK” and “race-mixing is OK”.

    I’d at least like to win the consolation prize and vote the Black monkey out of the White House so that he’s branded a one-term-president and quota-hire failure. Hopefully, race-mixing will drop in popularity as a result.

    Black rioting (if Obama loses) would be an overall positive for us. Just make sure your family and friends are in safe places after the election.

    The more riots by the Blacks, the more White people will wake up.”

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted September 10, 2012 at 8:23 am | Permalink

      1. People are being bombarded with race-mixing propaganda all the time. That will not change if Obama loses.

      2. Blacks riot whenever they are present in significant numbers. The causes really don’t matter. If they happen after an Obama defeat, they will be quelled soon enough and people will have a false sense of safety and trust in Romney. Black riots, however, are transient things that do not change white consciousness like years of ongoing black rule.

    • Dominion
      Posted September 10, 2012 at 10:43 am | Permalink

      I must say that I find this analysis overly simplistic.

      Race-mixing is influenced by far far more than what the skin colour of the man in the white house happens to be. Moreover, given the actual percentages of white women (and men) who marry outside their race, it’s vastly overblown in my view as a threat to whites in North America. While in places like California the rate can be high (almost 1/5), in other states like Vermont, the rate is only 4% (source:

      Given threats like resource instability, liberal ideology, and globalism, the relatively few whites who “marry out” do not appear to me to be a problem worth obsessing over. Demographic changes in the USA and Canada are mainly the result of mass immigration, not interracial unions.

    • Deviance
      Posted September 13, 2012 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

      I think likewise that it is overly simplistic.

      Barack Obama has already been proven to be a winner, since he was elected President of the United States. Race mixing has already been legitimized way beyond the point of no-return.

      For the personal anecdote, I faced the same choice you face now. It was in April 2012, in my native country, and I had to decide between voting for Sarkozy (a hypocrite Jewish anti-racist and socialist) and voting for Hollande (an open anti-racist and socialist).

      My guts told me to vote for Sarkozy or avoid voting altogether. My rather Machiavellian frontal lobes told me that the election of a crazy socialist was the best thing that could happen to France, notably by accelerating its coming financial crisis, and this reasoning became adopted by my guts. Worse is really better in revolutionary politics. Read what Hitler said on the subject in the chapter X of Mein Kampf.

  2. Excalibur
    Posted September 10, 2012 at 7:37 am | Permalink

    I often hear that Obama is “socialist’ even “communist”.
    I am amazed that educated ,intelligent or semi-intelligent people can think that way.It is obvious that he can cut deals with Wall-Street,banks, big corporations with the main goal to advance the interest of “minority”.It is so evident that he consider himself black and not “post-racial” man.But G.W.Bush was not better,so many times he was saying “we have long way to go” black to achieve ‘”equality”.
    For some reason people will accept and believe what “pundits” will tell them.
    As often through the history,who ever has the pedestal of authority has the “truth”.

    • Jaego Scorzne
      Posted September 10, 2012 at 10:27 am | Permalink

      What do you think Communism is? Or to put it more concretely, who do you think funded it? Or do you really believe that peasants and factory workers armed with mattocks and hammers overthrew one country after another all by themselves?

      The Bankers funded it. Why? To gain all power. How? By playing one class against another they destroyed the Aristocrats. Now they are coming for the middle classes. Once the middle class is gone, who do you think will rule – the poor or the super rich?

      All this is par for the course among the far Right. They fall apart when it come to admitting that most of the Bankers are Jews.

      • Deviance
        Posted September 13, 2012 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

        Communism is indeed very much liked by bankers, for the sociological reason you have cited (annihilation of traditional structures like family and religion) but also for three others:

        (1) A situation of monopoly or oligopoly allows the best and easiest harnessing of wealth from the masses to the top, by charging more/demanding more than in a market environment for the same service/same pay; this wealth then of course ends up in banks. You can conceive monopolies as a way to make your slaves work harder, to extract everything that can be extracted.

        (2) A State economy allows to impose the use of a single fiat currency that can be devalued at will by those who control the supply, further increasing their harnessing and accumulation of real wealth (real estate, land, newspapers, raw materials, oil, etc.)

        (3) A State economy allows bankers to socialize their mistakes at will — i.e. diluting their credit losses with public money — thus making them de facto immortal.

        I think every conscious White Advocate needs to read The Mystery Of Banking of Murray Rothbard, as well as the famous financial blog Zerohedge. If you elude the occasional freemarketism, they contain very valuable insights on the history of banks and how they really operate. Basically: Henry Ford was right, and Lloyd Blankfein laughs at our collective idiocy all the way up to the…. bank.

  3. phil white
    Posted September 10, 2012 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    I go to Tea party functions and pass out a few of Whitakers “Mantra” occasionally. I’m guilty of not doing more, as I’m a very shy person.
    Sometimes I wear my “European Americans United” t-shirt. I park my car out front with “Asia for Asians Africa for Africans white children’s countries for everyone” magnetic signs.
    Once I actually stood up and said if we didn’t stop immigration, legal and illegal, our kids would be toast in a few years. I got spontaneous applause.
    I think tea party functions are good to attend in order to put out this kind of white dissident material, as all the people attending are political activist.
    What I’d like to see is we form little groups, maybe one neighborhood each in at least a dozen different states where we old folks could retire to and help organize a local white dissident community. It gets real lonely out here.
    We would need to implement at least minimal security in order to weed most Jews and FBI infiltrators out of our communities.
    I can send you another $50 this month.
    I’d also like to see a national meeting. As an activist even smarter than Saul Alinsky once wrote, we need to do real world activity. We should allow many different organizations each with it’s own tactics. Then we can see which organizations tactics work and we can all join in.
    He also wrote that a political party should be foremed that in at least some ways promotes working and middle class interest. That would be inorder to take votes away from the left. AP3 fits that bill.

  4. phil white
    Posted September 10, 2012 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    I go to Tea party functions and pass out a few of Whitakers “Mantra” occasionally. I’m guilty of not doing more, as I’m a very shy person.
    Sometimes I wear my “European Americans United” t-shirt. I park my car out front with “Asia for Asians Africa for Africans white children’s countries for everyone” magnetic signs.
    Once I actually stood up and said if we didn’t stop immigration, legal and illegal, our kids would be toast in a few years. I got spontaneous applause.
    I think tea party functions are good to attend in order to put out this kind of white dissident material, as all the people attending are political activist.
    What I’d like to see is we form little groups, maybe one neighborhood each in at least a dozen different states where we old folks could retire to and help organize a local white dissident community. It gets real lonely out here.
    We would need to implement at least minimal security in order to weed out Jews and FBI infiltrators. You can’t set up a white community without that.
    Also I’d like to see a national meeting were we could raise mutual morale and network.
    As an activist even smarter than Saul Alinsky once wrote we need to form real world groups with many different tactical approaches. That way when one group hits upon the organizational magic bullet we can all join it.
    He also wrote that a political party needs to be established that at least a little promotes working and middle class interest. We need to in order to steal votes from the left. That rules out the Republicans. AP3 fits the bill.
    In closing I can send you another $50 this month. Keep it up.

    • Luke
      Posted October 4, 2012 at 7:31 am | Permalink

      Tom Metzger has long said that every pro-White activist organization or group needs to have a security component which consists of the most senior and most impeccably honest and legitimate, and thoroughly checked out – White Nationalists or White race realists in our movement – and this security team would be assigned the duty of doing extensive background investigations into each and every ‘new white face’ that suddenly appears at one of our meetings or gatherings and who tries to join our movement.

      I support this idea and consider it to be a rational, sane, and common sense approach that is critical to our movement’s long term success.

      Metzger has volunteered to head up and help establish such a group – and he has correctly pointed out that these FBI white race traitorous sleaze balls will almost always want to ‘volunteer’ to be part of the security team, if one exists for a given group. This is how Matt Hale wound up being entrapped and sent to prison for 40 years. Thus, it need not be pointed out that the security background investigations done on the members of such a security team must be the most extensive and most thorough of all.

  5. Stronza
    Posted September 10, 2012 at 9:08 am | Permalink

    And too many of our people were willing to overlook the fact that Ron Paul and the Tea Party were going in the wrong direction.

    But if R.P. & the Tea Party (prior to being taken over) had gone in the right direction, virtually nobody would have heard of them in the first place, much less donate $36 million. Isn’t this what they call a catch 22?

  6. Sandy
    Posted September 10, 2012 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    As a union member and a shop steward I could not vote for Republican candidate, Mitt Romney who is making just too much money destroying jobs with his outsourcing, off – shoring and general union busting by encouraging an unlimited flow of replacement labor into the country.

    • MissBonnie123
      Posted September 11, 2012 at 9:02 am | Permalink

      Obama has been doing the same thing with free trade agreements and giving work permits to illegal aliens. He, of course, has done nothing to stem the tide of legal immigration which allows more competition for jobs and, therefore, the lowering of wages.

      • MissBonnie123
        Posted September 11, 2012 at 9:10 am | Permalink

        I also meant to add that Romney will be no better. He certainly has no White racial consciousness.

  7. Basileus
    Posted September 10, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Wall Street financied the Bolshevik Revolution, always good to keep that in mind.

  8. April Gaede
    Posted September 10, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    I myself am voting for Obama even though it honestly scares the shit out of me to imagine what possible horrors he will enact in his next 4 years. But, I am willing to risk even the worst case scenario in order to hasten the changes we need and the distress that will get a larger number of our people to pull their heads out of the sand.

    I just returned from North Dakota where I worked for the summer in the fracking industry.
    While there I met dozens of people who were openly racial, not in the ” I hate niggers ” sense, but in the ” pro white civilization and culture, future of our children, tired of the Jewish control of the media and banking industry” sense. I encouraged many of these people to check out this website, American Renaissance and Vdare. I had a lot of people say, “Rush and Pat Buchanan dont got far enough for me, I need something more”. I imagine that for many of them it was the first time they had actually spoken to a true white civil rights activist and hopefully I planted a few seeds, and they will grow and pass on the info to others they come in contact with.

    I think that it is easy for us to forget that the vast majority of our people who are racially aware and concerned about our future have not heard of the ” movement” or any form of organized White resistance to genocide other than what they have read about the KKK in the south. We need to reach these people will the higher end of our activism, of which of course Counter Currents is a major part.

  9. Sutton Who?
    Posted September 10, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    As we might say in Louisiana: “Vote for the spook. It’s important!”

  10. Micronaut
    Posted September 10, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Hmm, I doubt Obama is similar to Clinton. Obama really has no clue what is going on, whereas Clinton is a very intelligent person. There is a really good article by Jim Goad that relates to the topics in this article by Johnson at Taki’s Magazine. In general I’m not a huge fan of Goad, but he touches on some important truths in this morning’s article.

    • AWM
      Posted September 10, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

      ” In general I’m not a huge fan of Goad”

      Why do Whites (and only Whites) and even purported White Nationalists feel the need to qualify all of their rhetoric? Inculcated in us by the Judæo-Liberal Orthodoxy, it is just moral posturing which serves to keep us fragmented.

      • Greg Johnson
        Posted September 10, 2012 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

        Well, if you have a qualified view, you should qualify it. That’s just objectivity.

  11. Fourmyle of Ceres
    Posted September 10, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Politically speaking, worse IS better. The Obama Presidency has crystallized how the Owners truly feel towards the White workers, and they are beginning to look for cause and effect, which could lead them to OUR Cause, and true effectiveness.

    Economically speaking, more IS better, and the contributions to counter-currents, monthly, are the best use to which this money could be placed. I used to do a lot of demographic analysis, and strategic planning, on an operations level. I went to a hospital today, to visit a dying friend I worked with in the Operations Analysis Unit. He looked at me, and said, “I have seen America at its best. As a young boy, I listened to Roosevelt on an old Zenith battery radio in the parlor. Later, I saw men walk on the Moon, in real time, and saw them come home. Finally, I saw the deconstruction of the American economy, and the American culture. I am glad I am as old as I am, and I am glad I will not live to see the world he – points to crying newborn in the hallway – will have to live in. You’ve run the models forward and backward, state-event, and event-state. How will people live in the economy of the Thirties?”

    “Simple,” I answered. “Tranquilizers, trivial sexual encounters called ‘relationships,’ and the Internet, offering them the Dreams Created By Their Enemies, with color more vivid than the world they live in, and really good immersive headsets. The New Opium Eaters will grow fat, stupid, slow, and weak, while seeing themselves, in the Immersive Reality, as Schwarzenegger at his best, with their inner Brad Pitt available if needed.”

    We discussed certain trends in genetic engineering for a bit, and I left him in peace.

    The “Right” offers the Dream of a return to 1950’s America, black and white television showing an America clearly fragmented along black and white lines, a world where Good and Evil are clearly seen a black and white.

    The economic and sociocultural foundations of that Dream are gone.

    The “Left” offer hatred of White America – period.

    The only long-term answer is the Northwest Republic.

    The best way to get there is to build it in your daily lives, seeing yourselves as the living foundations of the White nation, and contribute to counter-currents monthly, without fail. The regularity of importance is almost as important as the amount.

    A quick observations. Years ago, I dated one of the ladies from the advanced section of the marketing group. Her contempt for how easily we are manipulated – this is her job, remember – was open and obvious. We went to a grocery store, and she looked and laughed. “My cousin develops the Plan-O-Gram for these. You want ironic? All of the good, high quality items – fresh fruit and vegetables – are cheap, but you have to go to the outside of the store to get them. All of the chemical poisons we call ‘food’ are located on the inside, and the aisle displays are done in bright, warm colors. The main aisle display steers them to the very profitable inside of the store. Hell, this is too easy.”

    Same with the politics of Race, and Culture. You have to go outside the false Centers to get to the good stuff, and to get your money’s worth.

    Consider counter-currents, Bob Whitaker and Horus the Avenger, and Harold Covington, “The Outsiders.” Sending your money to counter-currents will guarantee you get your money’s worth, and that newborn crying in the hallway gets a chance.

  12. Vick
    Posted September 11, 2012 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    From the real world of meat and potato single issue politics coming from a racially conscious white person’s point of view, this election is about immigration and amnesty most of all.

    If Obama wins I put amnesty at about 80 – 90% likely to happen. If Romney wins, I put it at about 30 – 40% likely to happen.

    If Obama wins, there might be some anti-illegal immigration-related victories at the state level, but certainly not at the national level. If Romney wins, there’s a real, if not overwhelmingly likely possibility that something like a national mandatory E-Verify could happen.

    The Obama Amnesty that will follow his re-election will seal the fate of the white majority in this country. By 2050 (or earlier) whites will still be the largest racial group, but will no longer be 50%+ of the population.

    Romney will at the very least slow this day of reckoning by continuing to deny citizenship to illegal non-whites. Romney may even delay that day indefinitely if he actually tries the attrition through enforcement strategy, which he has talked about positively in the past.

    To the extent this election matters at all to a racially conscious white person, we should vote for Romney. It’s about the amnesty, stupid.

    The notion that we should want to speed up our decline to minority status is strange. How exactly do we think we will reverse our fortunes with less demographic power, less strength in numbers? When we’re outvoted, hemmed in, marginal, increasingly irrelevant and being bred out of existence – that’s when we’re going to win?

    This strategy seems to be based on the only ever vaguely suggested idea that whites will only wake up when they’re a minority. Once that happens, they’ll switch over into some untapped revolutionary high-gear and take over an all-white living space through use of force. I don’t want to put words in anyone’s mouth, but I imagine winning this living space will have to happen through use of force, because at that point, we certainly won’t be able to vote it into existence. So we should vote for Obama because this day of awakening will come sooner.

    I’m skeptical. The “worse is better” line smacks of cutesy, postmodern excuses to do nothing but play word games in the present so as to fantasize about the future. Perhaps I’m too earnest and not ironic enough. I say fight head on today under present conditions, and then fight head on tomorrow under tomorrow’s conditions. That is, we should fight amnesty now by voting for Romney, and if we end up a minority in 2050 (which we probably will) then sure, let’s go to the matt for our living space then. No reason we can’t do both.

    Also, the notion that things will get more polarized under Obama is arguable at best. Briefly, I suggest you imagine the rage that will follow a Romney win. You want to wake up whites? Show them the rage of millions of illegal Mexicans who are denied amnesty. Show them the rage of blacks who had a black president but lost him to the lower middle class working white man’s vote. Romney will drive the mongrel Dem coalition crazy. Whites wake up when they see the orcish left unmasked. (Had to slip in a LOTR reference, pardon me. Cheers.)

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted September 11, 2012 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

      1. I think it is foolish to believe that Mitt Romney can be trusted on immigration any more than John McCain or George W. Bush or George H. W. Bush or Ronald Reagan could be trusted.

      2. See my article “Worse is Better”

    • Lew
      Posted September 11, 2012 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

      Whether they realize it or not, Obama is best play for White folks who aren’t in about the top 0.5%, including White Nationalists. Obama has done more for working and middle class White folks than any US president since FDR. Obamacare will protect two people I know personally from losing insurance due to “preexisting conditions.” Romney is the greater evil. If you want the lesser of two evils, vote Obama or don’t vote. Romney is the worst option from a White standpoint.

      • Mr. Dithers
        Posted September 13, 2012 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

        Obamacare is a zero sum game like anything. Working and middle class whites will see their premiums and co-pays skyrocket and the white elderly will not receive the Medicare benefits they’ve paid into their whole lives. Instead, health care resources will be re-directed towards the black and brown underclass via huge Medicaid subsidies. That a small minority of whites gain something from Obamacare is purely incidental.

      • Vick
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 11:45 am | Permalink

        It’s unlikely that Romney will get rid of Obamacare. Obamacare, after all, is more or less a replica of Massachusetts’ Romneycare.

        What is very likely is that by the time Obama leaves office, 20 million illegal hispanics will have become US citizens (or be on the “path” to citizenship). This amnesty will represent a hastening of white demographic decline in this country.

        Amnesty is much less likely to happen under Romney.

        And this says nothing of all the anti-white deaths by a thousand cuts that will be happening on the agency level committed by Obama’s appointed commissars.

        Romney is easily a better choice than Obama. By far. And he’s not even a good alternative, much less a great one.

        • Greg Johnson
          Posted September 15, 2012 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

          Again, you are being naive to think that Romney would be stronger on immigration than Obama. What basis in experience leads you to that idea, as opposed to wishful thinking or taking politicians at their word? What were the records of the recent Republicans on immigration? Do you harbor the idea that Romney is a good guy at heart, because he looks like us?

      • Vick
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

        @ Greg Johnson

        I think Romney will be stronger than Obama on immigration for one simple reason – he’s much less likely to pass an amnesty of the sort that Obama will almost certainly pass if he’s re-elected.

        An Obama re-election will be seen as a mandate for an Obama Amnesty. If you’re cool with that, then vote for him.

        I don’t have any illusions about Romney (or at least I don’t think I do), but…

        1) I don’t think he’s an amnesty supporter at heart,
        2) a Romney DOJ won’t be adversarial towards states that pass restrictionist legislation
        3) I think he would face the same uphill fight that Bush faced from his own party if he tried to pass an amnesty like Bush’s, and he would probably cave like Bush did.

        Immigration and amnesty are THE issues at stake in this election from a racially conscious white person’s point of view. It’s almost certain we’re going to get an amnesty is we re-elect Obama. We probably won’t under Romney. It’s that simple.

        • Greg Johnson
          Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

          Who passed the last amnesties, Republicans or Democrats?

          Republicans, as I recall, and nothing has changed about the Republicans since then.

          Moreover, I think that the right will be more energized to fight on immigration if Obama is in office. If Romney is in office, they will all go to sleep and amnesty will be passed with barely a peep of protest from the Right, and it will be hailed as statesmanship, like George H. W. Bush’s tax increase.

    • Vick
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 11:39 pm | Permalink

      @Greg Johnson

      GW Bush tried to pass an amnesty during his second term, and while he had the full support of Dems and some Repubs, it was also Repubs who shot it down, and shot it down convincingly.

      I’m sure that I don’t need to tell you that there is a split in the GOP between big business-loving, Chamber of Commerce-style Repubs who deserve much of the responsibility for the illegal invasion in the first place, and the populist, “nativist” GOP which cares about the rule of law, the right of self-determination, and moreover, gets that who immigrates matters, and that Mexican mestizos are essentially incompatible with the Euro-American Nation.

      Without a doubt the populist wing is smaller and weaker, but it exists at the leadership level and it exists at the grassroots level in greater numbers. One could argue that this wing doesn’t matter since it doesn’t wield much power, but it has had successes i.e. the crushing of GW Bush’s amnesty, and all the restrictionist legislation at the state level over the years. I see no reason why a similar groundswell of anti-illegal immigration Repubs couldn’t crush an attempt by Romney to pull a GW. If anything, Romney appears to be the sort who would be more easily cowed by an enraged base than GW.

      I suspect that some number of this type of Republican reads Counter-Currents.

      I see no reason why the metapolitical project you advocate can’t go on at the same time as an active engagement in single issue politics such as supporting mainstream anti-illegal immigration groups, supporting Republican pols who hail from the populist, anti-illegal immigration wing of the GOP, and even supporting a pussy ass GOP Presidential candidate who is much less likely to grant amnesty than a mongrel Dem who wants to fuck over white America with every fiber of his being.

      • Greg Johnson
        Posted September 16, 2012 at 12:34 am | Permalink

        Oh I think that immigration is the only issue worth following. And I think we need to slow down or stop immigration to give us more time to turn things around. But I think it is foolish to think that Mitt Romney of Bain Capital will say no to the Chamber of Commerce plan for race replacement.

      • Lew
        Posted September 17, 2012 at 7:24 am | Permalink


        I can tell you have good intentions. But you to give up on the national Republicans. Local, state and select members of Republican Congress might a different case in some situations going forward. Personally, I think it’s important to elect state Republicans who will pass laws that will be overturned by the Federal government. This will help de-legitimize the Federal government. The GOP at very highest levels is rotten and evil to the core, however. There is no chance Romney won’t amesty illegals, and by executive order if necessary.

        Example: look up Romney’s schedule for the week. Today, he is speaking before the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. He has two Spanish radio interviews set up for later in the week.

  13. Stronza
    Posted September 12, 2012 at 9:14 am | Permalink

    I can’t for the life of me figure out why anyone would disgrace himself by going to the polls to cast a ballot for either O or R. But if you do, how about considering one of the minor parties or independents?

    I thought y’all looked down on democracy. And all that democracy means is one person/one vote. You want to have a hand in the perpetuation of such a joke? No, it’s not about democracy VS constitutional republic. GWB was correct – the constitution IS just a piece of paper.

    • fnn
      Posted September 16, 2012 at 6:47 am | Permalink

      I think it’s a mistake to reject politics altogether. Don’t believe me, see Aristotle and Carl Schmitt. Also the electoral contests waged by NSDAP, Communists and IRA/Sinn Fein. Democracy is bad, but you have to work with what you got.

      National politics, however, is hopeless for the time being. Use local politics to create United Front non-violent “guerrilla foco” against the DC-Hollywood regime. Try to get low threshold PR implemented at the local level in promising areas using local home rule powers. When attacked by the SPLC and ADL you can sell it as the “Israeli System”-which is exactly what it is. Also used in Greece, Finland, Netherlands among other places. Tell people it’s crazy to see plurality voting and the two party system as something ordained by God when the System is in the process of junking what remains of the Christian concept of marriage.

  14. Mr. Dithers
    Posted September 13, 2012 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Personally, I’m torn between the desire to oust the mulatto race baiter and elect Mittens ORomney who will put a slightly kindler and gentler face on the tyranny and hell whites are facing. Romney is unlikely to curb our much needed 1st and 2nd amendment rights, but we know the anti-white, ultra left would love nothing more than to render both meaningless and continue working toward that end.

    Will an Obama re-election racially awaken the unconscious and semi-conscious whites while further radicalizing race realists and white nationalists? Very likely, and I’m seeing evidence of this, but there is also the stark possibility that Obama will just issue executive orders when a Republican dominated Congress won’t bend to his will. And if he and the ADL & SPLC get their way then our opinions could be deemed “hate and extremism” and effectively muzzled.

    So an Obama re-election could be the best or worst thing to befall the cause of white nationalism.

    • Fourmyle of Ceres
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

      Mr. Dithers in blockquote:

      Personally, I’m torn between the desire to oust the mulatto race baiter and elect Mittens ORomney who will put a slightly kindler and gentler face on the tyranny and hell whites are facing. Romney is unlikely to curb our much needed 1st and 2nd amendment rights, but we know the anti-white, ultra left would love nothing more than to render both meaningless and continue working toward that end.

      And, as the issues are clarified beyond doubt, one and all will see the bright, clear line between US and Them ever more clearly. The Consensus Trance (HT: Horus the Avenger) is breaking down as the Internet allows the people who can make a difference to be able to take the initiative to SEE more clearly what the System Press has kept from them. You can’y unknow something.

      Will an Obama re-election racially awaken the unconscious and semi-conscious whites while further radicalizing race realists and white nationalists? Very likely, and I’m seeing evidence of this, but there is also the stark possibility that Obama will just issue executive orders when a Republican dominated Congress won’t bend to his will. And if he and the ADL & SPLC get their way then our opinions could be deemed “hate and extremism” and effectively muzzled.

      Executive Orders happen to be unConstitutional, but are a useful tool to deliver the the Real Power really wants. Note that the Republicans had many chances to get Obama’s attention and force the reversal of Executive Orders. They didn’t, because they agree with them. As well, when they get in, they get to use them, as well.

      Suppose Obama had issues an Executive Order forcing Whites to only have three-fifths of a vote compared to the Colored. How long do you think that would hold up? Same principle. The Real Power supports the use of Executive Orders on THEIR terms.

      So an Obama re-election could be the best or worst thing to befall the cause of white nationalism.

      Harold Covington noted far too many have it all too good. Once we experience the whip on our shoulders, suddenly, we are forced to Wake Up and grow, or die.

      The direction to grow towards, of course, is the New Polaris, the Northwest Republic.

  15. Luke
    Posted October 4, 2012 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    I’ve got a brother who, even after 4 horrible years of being ruled by an illegal alien mulatto and after 4 years of black flash mob violent attacks upon White people in every region of the country, after 4 years worth of endless videos being uploaded to youtube by black thugs who are screaming that its time to kill whitey and rape and then kill all of his women – after 4 years of all this crazy crap going on, this white moron (who I am increasingly ashamed of sharing DNA with) still loves to throw little sarcastic zingers in my direction that poke fun of my far more healthy, far more realistic, far more sane views on the realities of race and the profound nature of racial differences.

    What can we say about White people who are like this? They have the stench of a death wish oozing out of them and it smells even worse than the most rancid bean fart that would peel the paint off the walls of your house. These idiots are not going to wake up, friends. They are never going to examine the facts, look at the evidence and face the seriousness and the reality of our racial situation.

    Oh, and it is no small coincidence that in this guy’s house – he and his wife keep their Talmud Vision device turned on almost 20 hours a day and they even leave it on for their dogs to watch, whenever they are out of the house for a few hours. That electronic jew anus and the anti-white poison that spews from it is the #1 reason why Whites are so pathologically, psychologically and mentally screwed up that millions of them act as those they are suffering from The Stockhom Syndrome.

    Remember this, fellow White Nationalists and White race realists: We all probably have friends and family members who fit this exact profile. And, I know how frustrated and exasperated we all must get when we are unable to wake these people up – but the reality of the matter is that these people, be they long time friends or family members that we love and want to help awaken – when the long anticipated SHTF Day finally arrives at our doorstep, we do NOT want to have these clueless idiots anywhere near us. They will get us killed, because they will refuse to recognize that the battle we will be in will be drawn along racial lines. Our skin is our uniform, and anyone who refuses to recognize, acknowledge and base their survival decisions upon that very real truth – poses a dangerous threat to any white man or woman or child who are close to them.

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