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Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 616 – Part 2
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In this second part of the recent edition of Counter-Currents Radio, Greg Johnson was joined by David Zsutty, Fróði, Sam Dickson, and Endeavour. It is now available to download or listen to online.
0:35 – Introductions: David Zsutty, Endeavor, Fróði Midjord, Sam Dickson
1:20 – Recommendations: Young Adult fiction with Nationalist themes
9:50 – The “Ritchie Boys” in World War II
13:35 – Upcoming Counter-Currents or Scandza events in Europe
14:35 – Favorite Christmas customs
20:15 – Fróði talks about this year’s Decameron Film Festival
24:35 – Question: When did each of you last think about the Roman Empire, and what were you thinking?
32:00 – Sam Dickson asks: Romans, or Barbarians?
37:25 – What are the most important virtues for men, and for women?
43:10 – Question: How do you deal with political disagreements among family, and do you have any non-political friendships?
1:00:00 – Sam talks about his family’s Ulster origins
1:02:00 – Farewells to the second panel of guests
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43:10 – Question: How do you deal with political disagreements among family, and do you have any non-political friendships?
This question arose when Morgoth joined Woes on his previous Millenniyule. Their conclusions were similar to Greg’s panel, and fair enough, avoid unwarranted proselytizing. But I thought there was something left unexplored in both cases.
It’s one thing to have normie family whose views are formed by casually ingesting the mass media. Self-discipline aside, not so challenging to step around that. But imagine if a parent or family member themselves were ardent activists whose every life decision is propelled by dogma? How does one negotiate that?
Also consider how the clot-shot acceptance / rejection did seem to fall often along very broadly political lines. Would you have let a family member make a potentially permanent and harmful decision and hope for the best, or step into the quagmire and risk cleaving yourselves apart?
Fortunately my family is very racis(sic), but the way I deal with the question of politics and social things is to defuse. I say, ya know, there’s nothing we are going to say in this room that’s going to change anything, so the point is moot. No point breaking up social relationships over something abstract, and as Dickson wisely points out, it ends your ability to influence them.
Oh, and books for young people: I agree with Tolkien, start with the hobbit, lotr, and then silmarilion. Also, rl Stevenson, treasure island, kidnapped, black arrow. Kipling–jungle book, just so stories, short stories, and Kim, although the reading level of that may be too high. My friend is an English major and he complained he couldn’t understand Kim, lol. If people put it on the children’s reading list, you know, they just haven’t read it.
I also recommend “The Lord of the Rings” (I read it when I was 10 and devoured it within two months of the release of the three films) and “Conan the Barbarian”. I once read a comic book adaptation of Lovecraft’s works. I found his stories absolutely frightening and disturbing, so I wouldn’t recommend them at all. I would also recommend the military science fiction novels “Starship Troopers” by Robert A. Heinlein and “The Horus Heresy” by Dan Abnett, as well as “The Call of the Wild” and “Martin Eden” by Jack London (not recommended for young men in a dark mood, it could cause suicide through heartbreak). Of course, Ayn Rand’s “ Atlas Struggled”, Ian Fleming’s spy novels (James Bond) and the French novelist Gérard de Villiers (“Son Altesse Sérénissime” (SAS), 200 novels of 250 pages published between 1965-2013).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAS_(novel_series)
I was wrong about what I said about “The Lord of the Rings”. I meant that I devoured it in two months, and that was 2 years after the release of Peter Jackson’s latest film. I also recommend more classic epic works such as Homer’s “The Iliad” and “The Odyssey”, Virgil’s “The Aeneid”, “The Song of Roland” and “Beowulf”. “Beowulf” is a work that had a huge influence on Tolkien. He drew from it the following lesson: “Everyone in this world will eventually die, let everyone work for his own glory as he can” and “The wage of heroism is death.”
To Endeavor:
Thank you for acknowledging the fact that there is nothing wrong with compassion. It seems obvious, but unfortunately sometimes we need to be reminded of the obvious. You further opined that we are suffering from an excess of compassion just now, and that is also much appreciated, because I have noticed, among other reactionary mental tics, that many on the Right seem to think that if there can be too much of a thing, then even a tiny bit of it is poison (e.g. equality). They often accuse others of wanting only to turn back the clock, as though history is thoroughly mechanical, and we inevitably will “wind up” right back where we are now. There is, of course, no end to this infinite regress. You could argue that we’ve been in decline ever since the domestication of fire. I see history as rather like a journey that allows for the possibility of course correction. When you go too far down a particular road, you just turn around and go back to where you missed a turn and get back on track.
All that said, I would submit to you that, in this particular case, we are not suffering from a surfeit of compassion. I don’t think you can have too much compassion, though you can arguably be too charitable. As the great systematizer of common sense and reverse popularizer Aristotle taught, moderation is built into the very concept of virtue. Excess is vice. Give too much to the wrong people in the wrong circumstances, and you are not being charitable at all but rather unjust to other claimants on your resources. Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent, etc.
Whether it is logically possible to demonstrate too much of a virtue is, however, ultimately an empty question of linguistic convention. There is a more substantive psychological question to be considered here, though: the apparent fact of pathological altruism. Personally, I don’t really think it exists, or at least is very rare, especially among the common people. I don’t think people acquiesce to White dispossession out of any sincere conviction or moral sentiment, but rather out of a very primal fear of ostracism, that is to say, a lack of courage in the face of unwarranted White-shaming manipulation. Most people have a useful built-in mechanism for noticing when they are being taken advantage of, and they resent it, by design or evolution, however you happen to look at it. They don’t willingly accept lopsided relationships if they feel free to choose.
Also, many thanks to Sam Dickson for his comments concerning loyalty. I have come around to rejecting any notion of prescriptive gender-specific vice and virtue. Any use it may have is vastly outweighed by the potential for mischief, especially self-serving double standards. It is indeed loyalty that we must recover, granting that loyalty will often demand different kinds of sacrifices of men and women.
Finally, a point about Greg’s friend. I suspect that a good part of why she granted him a hearing and found him so persuasive is because she already knew him well. Therefore, she couldn’t see him as a monster with an irrational bloodlust and hatred of non-Whites as WN are portrayed in the media, because he isn’t that at all and she knew it. It is precisely those who know us best, and know our hearts, who will listen through all the static interference. Make of that what you will.
Hour 3 / part 3 to be posted soon?
Here are some other books I recommend for young adults:
“The Eagle in the Snow (1970) by Wallace Breem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_in_the_Snow
Here’s the description from the French edition (1987) of the novel:
“The last Roman or the battle of Gaius Maximus, Roman general, at the end of the Empire. In the winter of 406, Rome wages the last battle before its collapse. Driven back by the Asian hordes vying for their lands to the east, the “barbarians” of the north exerted tremendous pressure on the Rhine, an impassable natural barrier… On the eve of the solstice, the river was covered in ice. In an instant, Rome’s entire future came to revolve around the paradigmatic figure of General Maximus, the man in charge of defense. Aware both of the decomposition of the Empire, already largely occupied from within, leading to the vanity of any resistance, and of the tragic significance of the possible fall of Rome, Maximus will “interpret” this conflicting situation: to fight a losing battle or to give in and lose his own raison d’être? What does sacrifice mean when values no longer make sense? A hyper-realistic historical novel by a British author with a passion for romance.
We share the constant struggles of the XXth Legion Valeria, the life of the Roman camp, its organization, its battles. We discover the deep country and the Germanic clans through the astonished or worried eyes of the legionaries.
The whole world becomes strangely present. Little by little, we become Romans; we rub shoulders with Maximus and his comrades-in-arms. We follow the inner drama of a true leader faced with the dilemmas of decadence: should he take the purple or give up? When all betray, what form of loyalty should he adopt? In the face of triumphant Christianity, which is still using the Empire but is already thinking of sacrificing it in order to win over the immigrants, Maximus, who has remained faithful to the ancient cult, opposes Julian, his sworn brother, who wants to bring down perverted Rome in order to save paganism, the true Rome in his eyes. Suddenly, we’re in the thick of battle. In the intense cold, the admirable Roman rigor is back in action… We know the Eagle’s situation in the snow: it’s similar to our own. Aren’t we all Maximus? At a time when new great invasions threaten from elsewhere, this ancient novel gives a foretaste of the decisions we may have to make.”
“Der Wehrwolf” (1910), a novel by German writer Hermann Löns (1886-1914).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Wehrwolf
During the Thirty Years’ War (1618-1648), peasants defend their homes against soldiers (from all sides: Imperial, Swedish, etc.) who spread death and desolation throughout Germany.
For young Ladies, I recommend the novels by Kathleen Herbert, a former student of J.R.R Tolkien:
“Queen of the Lighting”, New-York, Saint-Martin Press, (1987).
The novel can be read online at archive.org.
https://archive.org/details/queenoflightning0000herb_o3f0
https://archive.org/details/queenoflightning0000herb_k1f7
I’ll quote an Amazon user who described the plot of this novel well:
”7th century Britain and out of the mists of time rides Britain’s last great Celtic Queen. Riemmelth – “Queen of the Lightning” is the last of Cumbria’a royal line. To ensure the safety of Cumbria, Riemmelth, headstrong, willful and in love with another, is forced into marriage with her hated enemy, Oswy, a Prince of Northumbria. This is the story of how the Old Religion and Christianity, Celtic and English blood are forged into one great civilisation. If you enjoy Arthurian legend you will love this.”
-“Ghost in the Sunlight” (1986) is its sequel.
https://archive.org/details/ghostinsunlight00herb
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