Source: European Parliament
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Hungary’s Viktor Orbán is both the smartest politician in Europe and, from my point of view, the most ideologically sound. Thus it came as a big surprise that he was soundly trounced in last Sunday’s elections. Why did this happen, and what does it bode for Hungary and for the nationalist-populist Right more broadly?
Orbán lost because of bad luck, which he could not control, and bad decisions, which he could control.
Orbán’s bad luck was simply that Hungary is a small, land-locked country. Hungary was devastated by the Second World War, followed by more than 40 years of Communism. After Communism, Hungary saw many of its most educated people go abroad for higher wages. It quickly became economically dependent on Western Europe, especially Germany, which is hell-bent on self-destruction: liberalism, multiculturalism, political correctness, Green energy, migration, de-industrialization, Covid hysteria, etc.
Orbán actually managed to benefit from some elements of Western decline. But Covid was an inflection point. Western Covid policies were luxury beliefs that Hungary could ill-afford. Hungary has suffered from high inflation and economic stagnation, largely due to Covid, exacerbated by the fact that the European Union withheld billions in Covid relief subsidies because they didn’t like Orbán’s sensible social conservatism and sound policies on sovereignty, migration, and identity. Even if Orbán did everything else right, he might have lost because of this.
So what did Orbán do wrong?
First of all, it is never good for a nationalist to identify too closely with the nationalisms — and national interests — of other nations. Yet Orbán was seen as sycophantic to Trump, Netanyahu, and above all Putin, to the point of compromising Hungarian national interests. Of course, a good statesman seeks good relations with other countries, but there is a clear, bright line between diplomacy and treason: namely, the interests of one’s own people.
All of Hungary’s Right-wing populists share a very unpopular idea. They are pro-Russian in a nation that widely despises Russians, not just for 1956 or 1944–45, but for 1849. Hungarians have long historical memories. It would be easy to dismiss such attitudes as mere “historical grievances,” but “the past is prologue,” and Russian imperialism is obviously not dead.
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Whether they are right or wrong, Hungarian pro-Putin populists are taking an unpopulist stance. But maybe they have good reasons. The best reason is that it is important to be friendly with Russia as a geopolitical counterweight to America and the EU. But, again, the operative criterion should be Hungary’s national interests.
Beyond that, pro-Russian attitudes in Hungary are largely rooted in the same witless “Russia stronk” memes and delusions about Russia being a stronghold of white, conservative values so common in the Western far-Right. And wherever these memes appear, Russian financial corruption is never far away.
It was easy for Hungarians to overlook this as a minor eccentricity until the Ukraine War. Most Hungarians don’t particularly care for Ukraine, largely because they fret for a tiny Hungarian minority in Ukraine trapped behind borders drawn by Stalin. But the vast majority of Hungarians are pleased that Russia is far away from their borders, and Ukraine just happens to be the country that is keeping them away.
Thus, to “normie” Hungarians, it seems the height of perversity for Hungarian nationalists to parrot all the pro-Russian propaganda tropes on the Ukraine War: NATO encroachment, “poke the bear,” the “Maidan coup,” etc. It is easy to understand why people far from Russia repeat these memes. But in Hungary or Poland, they seem so perverse, eccentric, and detached from reality that the mind is naturally drawn to explanations like bribery and treason. This is why, when Orbán’s opponent, Péter Magyar, celebrated his victory last Sunday, the crowd was chanting “Ruszkik Haza!” “Russians go home!”
Orbán’s recent reelection campaign struck me as perverse. For a long time, Orbán’s face was nowhere to be seen. Instead, most Fidesz posters featured Zelensky, Ursula von der Leyen, and Péter Magyar.
To make matters worse, the Fidesz election slogan, “A biztos választás,” simply means “The Safe Choice.” Not the ideal choice, not the best choice. It hardly conveyed self-confidence.
Late in the campaign, Orbán’s face finally appeared along with the Hungarian national colors. He’s gotten rather fat, but they managed to find a flattering, statesmanlike semi-profile. His new slogan, “Fogjunk össze a háború ellen” means “Let’s unite against the war,” meaning the Ukraine War, meaning unite against helping Ukraine, which basically means: let’s reward Russian aggression. What do conservatives say happens when you reward a behavior? You get more of it. Was this really the best he could come up with? Why finish a campaign by doubling down on an unpopular issue that should have been concealed like an idiot child? It really does smack of putting Russia’s interests not just ahead of Hungary’s but even ahead of Orbán’s own interests.
The populists who are freaking out about Orbán’s defeat need to take a long, hard look in the mirror and ask themselves whether they are setting themselves up for the same failure. The Western populist Right has been deeply corrupted by Russian propaganda and outright bribery. Once more, there is nothing wrong with wanting to have good relations with Russia. But that’s because it is in one’s own national interest. Any hint of promoting Russian interests ahead of one’s own homeland is treason and should be political suicide. That’s a high price to pay for sniggering over stupid memes. The whole populist Right needs a “Russians go home!” policy.
Orbán also had the bad luck to roll out this slogan after America and Israel started the Iran War. Orbán opposed this war too, in a sensible and diplomatic way. But this was undermined when J. D. Vance showed up in Budapest to campaign for Orbán while Trump was melting down on social media.
Hungarians regard Jews, even Jewish Hungarians, as a distinct ethnic group with distinct interests. This attitude is completely independent of whether they like or dislike Jews. But even Hungarians who aren’t particularly fond of Jews are generally polite and cordial to their Jewish neighbors. Orbán, however, goes far beyond that.
Like Trump, Orbán is particularly cozy with Netanyahu, even after his utterly barbaric treatment of Gaza. In fact, when the International Criminal Court indicted Netanyahu for war crimes in 2024, Orbán withdrew Hungary from the court and rolled out the red carpet for Netanyahu to visit Hungary in 2025.
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Recently, Orbán boasted that Hungary will have the largest Jewish community in Europe someday, because Jews will move there to escape anti-Semitism. So, migration and the Great Replacement are okay, as long as they are done by Jews.
Again, to a “normie” Hungarian who may have no particular animus against Jews and Israel, such policies still smack of putting another nation’s interests first — not just before Hungary’s national interests but before Orbán’s personal political interests as well. Such self-defeating sycophancy is all too familiar to Americans watching the Trump administration committing suicide at Netanyahu’s request.
And this brings us to the Trump Question.
One of Orbán’s best traits is that he understands metapolitics. One of his best metapolitical initiatives has been to promote Hungarian-style national populism to Western conservatives. This is moving the “Overton window” in the Right direction. The Danube Institute and CPAC Hungary have been particularly effective outreach projects.
But influence is a two-way street, and there has been a strong backwash of Trumpian style “slopulism” into Hungary. Since nothing says “America First” like fawning over Israeli war criminals, the recent CPAC Hungary conference was to feature Netanyahu as a guest of honor. Unfortunately, he was detained by launching another genocide. I was also disturbed to see American flags being waved at CPAC Hungary. Again, this looks like putting another country first, even to Hungarians who are strongly pro-American. As a Yankee, the first words that came to my mind were “Jenkik haza!”
Orbán’s second problem was “corruption.” Hungary isn’t a particularly corrupt society, even by the ratings of a biased organization like Transparency International, which gives Hungary a 40/100 rating, whereas the United States has 65/100. Hungary is ranked 84 out of 182 countries worldwide, tied with Cuba.
Of course, all this depends on how one defines corruption. I define it as a public servant putting one’s personal interests or foreign interests ahead of the common good. I do not, however, think that political “patronage,” i.e., giving concrete benefits to one’s political supporters is necessarily corrupt. But it all depends on how that patronage is used.
Just a few years ago, Hungary was stunned by a genuinely evil and stupid Fidesz patronage scandal.
In 2019, one “János V.,” the director of a state-run orphanage, was sentenced to prison for sexually abusing boys. One of his underlings, Endre Konya, was also sentenced to prison for attempting to coerce victims to drop their accusations. Konya comes from a Calvinist family, and asked the Calvinist bishop, Zoltán Balog, for a little favor. Balog was the mentor of Katalin Novák, the Fidesz President of Hungary. Konya had nine months left of his sentence. But he did not want to wait. He wanted a pardon. He also wanted his record expunged, which apparently would also wipe out . . . a five-year ban on working with children.
Astonishingly, Novák saw no problem with this. So she and Justice Minister Judit Varga cooked up a pardon. In a surreal touch, he was pardoned along with 21 other criminals . . . in honor of Pope Francis’ visit to Budapest in 2023.
In 2024, an opposition journalist discovered the scandal. Orbán knew nothing about the pardon and was as outraged as the rest of the country. Novák and Varga were forced to resign for colossal political stupidity.
I don’t want to be “that guy,” but I can’t help wondering if these women were really the best candidates for their jobs, or if Orbán was playing the typical American conservative game of pandering to progressives by promoting “our minorities” beyond their level of competence.
Judit Varga especially is the gift that keeps on giving, for her ex-husband is none other than Péter Magyar, Hungary’s new Prime Minister.
Third and finally, Orbán allowed Magyar to outflank him on his signature issue, namely immigration. Orbán has brought a lot of jobs to Hungary by luring companies like Mercedes Benz, Samsung, and BYD (Build Your Dreams), China’s largest EV maker, to build factories there.
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Unfortunately, not all these jobs are going to Hungarians. Orbán is importing guest workers from places like the Philippines, some of which are being housed in small villages in Fidesz’s stronghold, the Hungarian countryside. This was asking for trouble.
Hungarian liberals are surprisingly “based.” Thus I was not totally surprised last year when a liberal Budapest urbanite began complaining that, when he and a friend got on a bus in the Hungarian countryside, they were the only white people onboard. Magyar probably sewed up a lot of rural votes when he promised to send Orbán’s guest workers back.
National populists in every white country need to learn from these mistakes. I am pretty sure that Orbán will learn from them as well. Barring prosecution or a change in the Hungarian constitution, I hope Orbán will return — tan, rested, and hopefully a bit thinner — in 2030.
I have no idea what Péter Magyar really believes. Just as it is foolish to dislike Ukraine because libtards cheer for it, so too is it foolish to conclude that Magyar is bad because liberals are cheering for him. After all, these people are stupid enough to call Orbán a dictator.
I also have no idea how Magyar will actually govern. His Tisza party is a coalition of widely divergent tendencies, from Right and Left. He will have to govern his own party first before he can govern the nation. My hope is that Fidesz will side with him on sensible reforms and will be able to block anything foolish by wooing Tisza defectors to their side. The prospect of Orbán’s return in four years — or a new Fidesz standard-bearer — will also limit Magyar.
I am predicting, however, that Magyar will soon disappoint the Eurocrats, for the same reason that even without Orbán, “Orbánism” will continue to rise in Hungary and the rest of the white world: national populism is the only solution for the problems of liberalism, migration, and globalization.
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I knew it was over for him when the audio leaked of him calling himself Putin’s loyal mouse.
Orban wasn’t some great visionary or even an authentic nationalist. He was just a criminal who did his best to subordinate Hungary’s national interests to hostile foreign regimes. From selling out Hungary to the Chinese and allowing them to rape the Hungarian countryside with toxic battery factories, to bending over backwards to MAGA and Israel, to blatantly referring to himself as a loyal mouse for Russian interests, to bringing in non-white scab labor, to giving Hungarian taxpayers dollars to gypsies to get a reliable brown voting bloc, this man was simply a traitor who did his best to prioritize every foreign regime except Hungary.
It was thus no surprise at all that Hungarians elected a man who promised to actually put Hungarians first and stop selling out the country to hostile foreigners.
MAGA is failing and will collapse for the same reason, it’s prioritizing hostile foreign regimes in the Middle East and subordinating American interests to outsiders. Same with Reform UK, AfD, Fico’s Social Democracy in Slovakia, etc.
All of these so-called national populists who bloviate about restoring national sovereignty from globalists, liberals, and the EU seem to have a penchant for subordinating their people’s ethnic interests to hostile third worldist foreign regimes, whether it be the Americans, the Chinese, the Russians, or the Israelis and Gulf Arab states. It’s honestly pathetic how these alleged defenders of sovereignty can’t help but to sell their people out to the brown authoritarian shitholes of the world.
If so-called populists would actually enact remigration and place their nations first then national populism wouldn’t be collapsing everywhere, but because populist leaders are simply bad actors and criminals who want to sell their countries out to foreigners, I predict that national populism will continue to decline and something else will have to take its place.
I do not think that many readers here know who is Syoma Mogilevich and what kind of relations were between him and Orban.
Do you mean the fat jew semion of RosUkrEnergo who trump sold property to, the ‘boss of bosses’?
Syoma was big Jewish mobster, and he was not just another one gangster, even like Capone or Meyer Lansky, he always had connections in the intelligence services too.
Why is he a criminal?
Great article! It seems our fledgling movement is imploding everywhere. 🙃
This year has been very bad, so far. Last year was good in some ways. Can we have 2025 back again, please? This year has been especially bad for the civilians (Christians and Muslims) of Lebanon, who are being massacred by the Jews, aided by their agents in the US.
The problems Greg describes stem from the very nature of attempts by populists like Orbán to challenge the liberal oligarchy. A populist does not have the endless resources of the global liberal establishment behind him. He must rely financially on a group of local businesspeople, whom he rewards with subsidies and government contracts and by tolerating their various corrupt and mafia-like practices. This is not some kind of “mistake,” but a prerequisite for a populist to even be able to run for power. Throughout his time in office, the populist then struggles with “institutions” that are not directly elected and are staffed by liberal monsters. At the same time, the populist has no way of replacing these creatures with his own people, because his movement, by its very nature, has few educated or qualified individuals (since people with illiberal views cannot gain a foothold in institutions permanently held by liberals, starting with universities, government offices, or courts).
This is well-said.
First, there is nothing wrong with building up a patronage network to keep a government in power. But obviously, the pardon scandal showed that Orban needed to pay more attention to policing abuses.
Second, Fidesz has a lot more educated people supporting it than MAGA, in a country that is much smaller, and Orban understood the necessity of putting them in influential spots (and cleaning out old communists and post-communist libtards).
Did Fidesz also prioritize boomers in its patronage networks and not give a ladder up to enough young right-wingers? Many such cases in the west.
I also think Greg is too fanatical in his support of the Russians and idealizes the Ukrainians too much. In reality, both of these nations are more like variations of the same post-Soviet melting pot of ethnicities. On the Prague metro today, I see the same post-Soviet Russian-speaking crowd as I would in Astana, Kazakhstan. If you ask a Ukrainian where he’s from, he’ll say he’s from Kyiv, but that his mother is from Siberia and his father from the Caucasus, and only one of his grandparents was an ethnic Russian.
I have always liked Viktor Orbán and was disappointed that he lost. But not now – not after reading this article. Orbán has too many defects, after linking himself to such war criminals as Netanyahu, Putin and Trump.
If this article is correct about Orbán, then his defeat is good for Hungary. I hope his replacement will reverse his stupid policies, while keeping the good ones.
Keep the migrants out of Hungary, say NO to the Eurocrats and ban the NGO’s. Orbán was right about that. But treat the above three war criminals with the contempt they deserve.
I didn’t realize Orban was so eager to make a bastion of European man’s most formidable enemies, outsiders in the midst, who have been so for millenia. Perhaps that is why Dave Rubin was at CPAC with Dinesh D’Souze with his typical s*** eating grin.
As for the Danube Institute, I have little information but for one video I saw recently. It was gauling and shameful on their part. At a critical juncture in the conversation these two superciulious young men, academics they say, were discussing the origins of European civilization. Sadly, they put their tails between their legs and said that it didn’t really have a European origin. They said its mysterious and locationless origins were sort of maybe kind of rooted in Egypt, (Alexandria presumably), and the Levant.
It was an outrage. Even to dismiss Alexandria as somehow not Greek despite the namesake and that it was an outpost of Macedonia, Greece and Rome and thus The West, was an epic level of stupidity and ignorance on display. Perhaps that is part of the bastion for formidable internal enemies plan. Forfeit your civilizational origins to give theirs supremacy/primacy. Unbelievable.
Sorry for the Danube Institute rant. It sounds like that Orban the immigration stalwart was a myth given that importing international companies meant importing the Phillipines to work the factory. It sounds likes the Trump populism of import China and India in order to defeat China.
We are in dire need of confident and willful men of The West in leadership. The merchant caste needs to be put under the boot of a much higher and foundational caste if we are to have any hope. The Reagan/Thatcher rhetoric of attracting businesses was once sold as creating jobs for the community importing the business and generating taxes. Importing third-world scab labor and giving the companies tax breaks and the third worlders as tax consumers put the lie to that scam.
None of our countries nor our nations, such that the countries are even ours, can stand much more of this perfidy for much longer.
At one point, there was talk of bringing in huge number of workers from India into Hungry. Orban didn’t seem to understand that economics can’t be separated from politics and that any such plan would be a betrayal at the deepest level. Just another Conservative I’m afraid.
I had a positive opinion of Orban until I read this article. I wonder why he was so keen to cater to Bibi Nosferatu and show his philosemitic credentials? It could be that facile approach that says you can’t be BOTH anti Muslim and anti Jew at the same time. I guess Jews have been in Europe a lot longer than the current wave of Muslim invaders so they get special treatment.
Chinese factories and Flip guest workers? Cheap labor has been the enemy throughout history. It seems that everything comes down to economic warfare.
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cei/semion-mogilevich
Syoma Mogilevich was one of sponsors of Orban in the beginning of his political campaign in 1990s.
Greg have you read much about this guy? The leader of the party to the right of Orban
https://x.com/ToroczkaiLaszlo/status/2042619844093210663?s=20
Yes. We ran an interview with him at CC.
Oh thanks. Didn’t know that. Will look it up and listen.
We all know what will happen next. With the defeat of Orban comes a victory for liberal-globalist dictatorship. Let’s hope the bad times that Magyar will bring, which could come in the form of inviting Putin to destroy the country and its patriots like Zelenskyy did, will eventually allow Mi Hazank to take the place of Fidesz.
Why should Magyar invite Putin to invade, and why should Putin invade Hungary? There is no lithium in Hungary, so China does not need this country.
How white is Hungary, accounting for gypsies, Jews, and the recent population of ‘guest’ workers Orban brought in?
I’d say about 85% excluding the gypsies, who were often reliable Orban voters.
The best analysis of the Hungarian situation that I have read so far. I know perfectly well about deep animosity Hungarians have to Russia. I can’t remember a single period in history when Hungarians were allied with Russia (the only event when Hungarians and Russians were on the same side is when Hungarians were part of Habsburg’s empire and fought against Napoleon).
In the last century Hungarians fought against Russians in both world wars and in 1956 when attempting to regain national independence. David Irving’s book “Uprising” provides the best insight into 1956 events in Hungary.
Therefore, it was surprising to observe Orban’s pro-Kremlin stance in the last years. Especially, given the fact that the current rulers in Russia are engaged in restoring Stalinist system with prospects of invasion into Eastern Europe. How any sensible person in Eastern Europe could support it? Most probably, this issue played a decisive role in Orban’s defeat. Yes, the EU Marxist/liberal system is bad but the Asian horde of rapists, definitely, is an evil of much higher magnitude. People in Baltic states, Finland and Poland don’t have especial love to multiculturalism but they see no other option to defend their collective interests except as in the framework of NATO.
Nothing new. Back in Middle Ages Roman Catholicism was some kind of “European Union” that provided a common framework for resisting the same expansion from the east. Teutonic Order in 12-14th centuries was a bulwark that stopped Russian expansion into Baltics. Later Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth was a strong shield for the whole of Europe against the same voracious enemy.
So, we can see the repetition of the same historical pattern. There can be any superficial wrappers (Catholicism, Protestantism, Liberalism) but the essence remains unchanged: the deeply-rooted conflict between European identity on the one side and the Asiatic imperialist conglomerate that always tried to expand into Europe on the other side.
The main problem with Russians is that this nation presents the most bizarre mixture of predominantly European genetics with predominantly Asiatic mentality. The resultant features are truly gruesome and dangerous for the original European identity. If we consider Russians as singular individuals, they are almost indistinguishable from any other Europeans but there are some traits that produce a collective monster if those individuals gather in a fairly large mass. Look at the Russian drunken crowds on the streets of Berlin celebrating their victory on 9th of May each year. They become very aggressive when they are not single individuals but a crowd of hundreds. What happens when the same creatures are gathered in a multi-million mass and provided with weapons? Europe had tasted it too many times in the last centuries, starting with Ivan the Terrible bloody spree in Baltics (Livonian War 1558-83) and culminating in wholesale destruction of Europe in 1945. The very Russian national identity is defined mainly by this enmity to Europe. The current Stalinist regime exploits this morbid Russian mentality to the utmost. The ongoing dynamic of events points to the inevitability of a big collision. No one in Europe wants a war (like almost no one in the past wanted it) but the eternally dissatisfied Russia, backed and urged by China, will strike all the same. It is some kind of collective mental curse among Russians. The hatred of Europe is the common denominator for the whole divergent mass of the multi-ethnic crowd populating the vast expanses of this desolate empire. The only way to neutralize this threat and to fundamentally change those evil collective traits is to break the empire.
Therefore, Orban’s attempt to use Kremlin as a counterweight against Brussels bureaucracy was like trying to scare away mice from your house by bringing in a viper. He has greatly miscalculated. He acted against the centuries-long historical pattern.
A perfect summary, thank you. Most people in the West have no idea as to who and what russians really are.
You can always read Wolf’s articles on whitebiocentrism.com. But that site is not very popular and not much visited. I would be glad to see his articles on counter-currents too.
Thank you
Now Catholicism, Protestantism and Liberalism are all become partially self-hating…
“First of all, it is never good for a nationalist to identify too closely with the nationalisms — and national interests — of other nations.”
While nationalists are natural enemies to the nationalists of other nations pro-Whites are naturally inclined to be friends and supporters of pro-Whites of other nations.
When we have difficulty with working with each other across national borders the problem is not likely to be that we are too radical, that is too racial; the problem is more likely to be that we are not radical enough, not racial enough, not sufficiently inclined to put aside state flags and national anthems and instead look to our genetic common interests and our shared fate as a race.
We should not look on nationalism as the more respectable, more practical, milder, and safer version of pro-White racialism. It is a different turning, and a dangerous one.
We pro-Whites should be radical, racial, and friendly to each other world-Wide. We should indulge in nationalism only to the extent that it seems unlikely to harm our racial interests, including our interests in solidarity, civility, and friendly relations. We should be careful about that.
“We should not look on nationalism as the more respectable, more practical, milder, and safer version of pro-White racialism. It is a different turning, and a dangerous one.
We pro-Whites should be radical, racial, and friendly to each other world-Wide. We should indulge in nationalism only to the extent that it seems unlikely to harm our racial interests, including our interests in solidarity, civility, and friendly relations. We should be careful about that.”
These are no doubt, some of the wisest words ever published on this site. or any other. Well done.
Orban’s lack of popularity has very little to do with global affairs, or Ukraine, or whatever. Hungarians’ attitudes towards the Russians are very much ‘whatever’ (and towards the Ukrainians, for that matter).
Orban is very much responsible for his downfall. The reason is his, and his accomplices’, love of money. That is unfortunately the Achilles’ heel of the mainstream right – Americans are all too familiar with this.
Yes, Covid and the energy crisis impacted Hungary badly – 35% of its GDP comes from industry and exports. Nonetheless, what drove Hungarians towards despair isn’t so much the price of bread, as much as the unaffordability of housing. An average Hungarian salary earns you a 1-bedroom apartment in 100 years of savings – if you are really frugal.
Orban and the fistful of his cronies made a vast fortune, worthy of any Wall Street shark, based on the nearly inscrutable net of private-public partnerships and deals that were inevitably awarded to someone from Orban’s circle.
Let us not be idealistic here – there is hardly ever a meritocratic way to consolidation of wealth. Perhaps in Finland or Denmark. Perhaps… So, a cynic might say it is better for the Hungarian corrupt class to own the national wealth, rather than the foreign.
But in times of crisis, it is up to that same corrupt class to open up their pockets and throw some band-aid on the society it leeched – yes, even at the expense of their competitive edge. And this is something Orban absolutely had the power to do, and he failed, and the Hungarians saw where his heart lies. 1 billion could build a lot of public housing. Favourable financing schemes – where it is not entirely given away for free – even more.
One can dislike Putin as much as he wants, but he never fails to squeeze the business class when things get rough (if but for the sake of his own skin), under the pain of a mysterious defenestration.
Great piece. “One of Orbán’s best traits is that he understands metapolitics.” Spot on, and other politicians would be wise to learn that art. I just watched a video by an English YouTuber suggesting that Orban (sorry, can’t do accents on my phone) is doing some clever politicking. As you have predicted, Magyar has immediately ruffled Ursula VDL’s hair by rejecting 90% of their diktats. Along with Ireland, this is the European story to watch.
From time to time people elect a politician or two who are not enthusiastic enough about globalist ideology. One of those leaders was Orban. Drop in the ocean. At least he stuck to his words unlike Trump or Meloni.
I’m a Hungarian-American who’s lived in Bp. for more than twenty-five years. (I also happened to translate the interview with Béla Incze that was published on Counter-Currents in 2021.) Orbán has been the definitive politician of Hungary in the 21st century, whether in power (2010-2026) or in opposition (2002-2010). The 2026 election was a protest vote against him. Over the sixteen years of his reign, Hungarians have gradually come to loathe the man and his party for his corruption, scapegoating and arrogance. Hungarians always compare their country to Poland since the two nations followed similar post-1945 paths, but unlike Poland, Hungary’s economy has faltered under the mismanagement of the Orbán regime while Poland has turned into the economic engine of the region. Talented young Hungarians go abroad for job opportunities while the ones who have stayed cannot afford to start families because real estate prices have skyrocketed. The blame for that is all on Orbán. Education, healthcare and transport infrastructure are in shambles and have been so for years. Government coffers are empty and the forint (HUF) is weak. Hungarians have now voted to take a different path.
I don’t think Orbán can mount a comeback because younger members of the party (particulary János Lázar) will want their chance to lead. Orbán has led Fidesz for thirty-eight years, i.e., for the entire existence of the party. A redemption arc in 2030 is not in the cards.
Thank you. I appreciate this perspective.
Thanks for the kind words, Greg. I should have also mentioned that there are two significant white pills coming from the election.
1.) For all intents and purposes, there are no leftwing parties left in Hungary. The Democratic Coalition (DK), the party that onetime prime minister Ferenc Gyurcsány had founded, barely got over one percent of the vote. The Hungarian Socialist Party is so ineffective and unpopular that it didn’t even run.
2.) Our Homeland, the so-called “far-right” party, comfortably reached the 5-percent parliamentary threshold despite record-setting turnout. With Fidesz weakened, I would not be surprised to see its popularity grow. Yes, there will only be six “Homelanders” when the new parliament convenes, but they will be a feisty and loud faction.
I also have strong ties to Hungary. What I like about Toroczkai is that he’s been polishing his persona and public image throughout the years, but not in a sleazy way alla Marine Le Pen, or in other words, he has a more mature and serious rhetoric every year. I know little about his other cadres though, so I’d appreciate some insight – has the party been weeded out of weirdos?
Viktor Schmidt: April 17, 2026 You can always read Wolf [Stoner’s] articles on whitebiocentrism.com [WB]. But that site is not very popular and not much visited. I would be glad to see his articles on counter-currents too.
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Greg featured one, “The State vs the Nation” on counter-currents.com a year or so ago but never again. It seems there was too much of a “glut of front page articles” for more from Wolf. I agree with you that more from Wolf rather than from the Negro, Lip Man Matthews, would be a step up, but that’s just us.
For now, for more from Wolf, see: https://whitebiocentrism.com/viewtopic.php?p=38222#p38222 “Words of Wolf Stoner.” You might enjoy Douglas Mercer’s piece, “Wolf Stoner At Counter Currents” and comments under it at WB.
Thank you for the WB plug, Victor. WB is small and “not much visited” by design as the forum for National Alliance members, supporters and those interested in the Alliance organization. It’s not trying to be big. Some here on C-C consider NA to be too radical or anti-Christian. We say we cannot be radical or anti- Christian enough if we are to preserve our unique race. Wolf agrees, saying, “The National Alliance is the template for all racial nationalist groups worldwide.” He, unlike most pro-White keyboard warriors, recognizes this and actually joined NA five or six years ago and promotes our org in Russia and Eastern Europe.
Another thing: you say WB is not “popular.” Is popularity a virtue? No. Virtues are honesty, truthfulness, certitude, courage and determination, etc. — traits you’ll find in Wolf’s writings — and English is his second language!
Popularity is not a virtue, it is a tool to bring your ideas and views to maximum many people. You can be very smart and have genial ideas, but when you are read by 100 humans, your ideas do not matter. The word propaganda is discredited after Armenian-Jewish propagandists in the Putin’s world disinformation service, but the propaganda is also only a tool. Important is what to propagate. Dr. J.G. understood it very good, just read his book KAMPF UM BERLIN.
Mr, Orban is, or was a poitician, not a statesman for the White race. He had a good run as Hungary’s leader. Americans get a consistently different view of Orban than will be found here on C-C.
I was tooling around in my truck a couple of days ago, listening to so-called high brow NPR (National Public Radio). The subject of the news piece was Orban’s defeat. NPR domestic extremism correspondent Odette Yousef joined with some gal named Chang.
Yousef opens with: Orban’s influence in the U.S. during this U.S. presidency is much deeper than I think many Americans may be aware. Heidi Beirich says Project 2025 – basically, the Trump policy roadmap – comes from ideas modeled in Orban’s Hungary. Beirich is cofounder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism.
Then Heidi, the disgraced SLPC lesbian chief hate expert weighs in with her expertise on how “far-right” White American haters took their cue from Orban:
They took ideas around migration, a hardcore migration position, anti-LGBTQ policies, the anti-woke kind of idea that, you know, tech companies should not be regulating hate speech. These are all ideas that were lifted from Orban and imported into the United States…
And Beirich says, you know, this speaks to a huge shift in Western politics. She says the era of progressive liberals versus small-C conservatives is over. It’s now the middle versus the far right, and unless something structurally changes, this may be where things stay for a while….
What nonsense from the corpulent strumpet, hate expert. I’ve had to deal with Miss Heidi for decades and always won when the corpulent strumpet would attack us. The story of our interactions is in my book, Pocahontas Show Trial, is not kind to her and her SPLC, including this tidbit from former C-C commenter Franklin Ryckaert:
Of the twenty-two (22) SPLC senior program staff members, fifteen (15) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 68%. Of the thirteen (13) SPLC directors, eight (8) are Jews or have Jewish spouses. This is a numerical representation of 62%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population. Therefore Jews are over-represented among the SPLC senior program staff members by a factor of 34 times (3,400 percent), and over-represented on the SPLC board of directors by a factor of 31 times (3,100 percent).
Influential, tax-funded NPR is about as Jewish as SPLC was, but they deny it.
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