Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 640
America & Europe in the Age of Trump With Jared Taylor, Ed Dutton, Keith Woods, Roger Devlin, Greg Johnson, Angelo Plume, David Zsutty, & Endeavour
At this year’s Counter-Currents 2025 Spring Retreat, we had a symposium on “America and Europe in the Age of Trump.” The participants were Jared Taylor, Ed Dutton, Keith Woods, Roger Devlin, Greg Johnson, Angelo Plume, David Zsutty, & Endeavour.
Counter-Currents retreats are private gatherings of writers and friends of Counter-Currents who wish to share ideas, network, launch projects, and enjoy one another’s company.
I want to thank everyone who made this spring’s gathering possible.
Greg Johnson
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Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 640
America & Europe in the Age of Trump
With Jared Taylor, Ed Dutton, Keith Woods, Roger Devlin, Greg Johnson, Angelo Plume, David Zsutty, & Endeavour
It’s nice listening to these recorded speeches again, especially after hearing them live, meeting the speakers and enjoying face-to-face discussions with some of them and with other invited guests. My wife and I thoroughly enjoyed the C-C Spring Retreat, the group camaraderie, and some of the planned. Old-Europe excursions.
Mentioned in the last minute of this podcast when Greg announced that there was time for one more question from the audience and… “an American made a statement about the importance of William Pierce’s National Alliance, especially in its discussion of the so-called JQ.”
That sounds like something I might have said, except for the “so-called” part. ;o}
Hyacinth Bouquet: June 14, 2025 When I heard that reference during the podcast, I immediately thought of you!
I’m flattered, Hyacinth. Perhaps that American mystery man’s statement from the audience that concluded the panel discussion was recorded and can be shared? ;o}
Ed Dutton and Greg Johnson severely overstate–here and elsewhere–the supposed mongolism of Russians. Russians have about 9% “NeoSiberian/Nganasan” ancestry, the rest being White, whereas Ukrainians have about 5%. Some difference.
Also, Anatolian farmer ancestry is NOT why Turks are not included among us. Greeks have about 40% of this component and 16-25% Caucasus Hunter Gatherer, yet Dutton sees Turks as being European inasmuch as they are Greek!
It’s not just war that molds people, as Angelo attests, it’s religion. The Turks are out because they’re Muslim and Russians and Greeks are in because they’re Christian (and obviously predominantly White by whatever restrictive criterion you use for the pure biological category). The irrelevance of the theology does not change this important psychological dimension.
Lawrence Brown, for all his brilliance, shocked me by saying that Communism was good to the extent that it retarded Russian strength and that what we really had to worry about was Russia’s national renaissance. This is exactly wrong. Brown was a crypto-Catholic who let a nonracial loyalty bias his thinking.
Russia is the most reliable ally in our struggle with the global south and is, in fact, the senior partner in that struggle.
I didn’t say anything about the “mongolism of Russians,” so you are just making up stuff.
Your claim that Russia is “the most reliable ally in our struggle with the global south and is, in fact, the senior partner in that struggle” is an obvious and asinine lie. Russia is, if anything, one of the major promoters of anti-white Third Worldism. Look at the recent Victory Day celebrations, including this video: https://t.me/guidetokulchur/6525
Spengler said Russia was the leader of the non-white world’s revolt against white nations. Putin certainly is competing with Jews for that dubious honor.
Liars don’t get to comment at Counter-Currents. You are forever banned.
Greg Johnson responds to Wiros:I didn’t say anything about the “mongolism of Russians,” so you are just making up stuff.
Your claim that Russia is “the most reliable ally in our struggle with the global south and is, in fact, the senior partner in that struggle” is an obvious and asinine lie. Russia is, if anything, one of the major promoters of anti-white Third Worldism. Look at the recent Victory Day celebrations, including this video: https://t.me/guidetokulchur/6525
Spengler said Russia was the leader of the non-white world’s revolt against white nations. Putin certainly is competing with Jews for that dubious honor.
Liars don’t get to comment at Counter-Currents. You are forever banned.
—
Thank you, Greg. especially for what’s revealed in that video:
—
Russian “Victory Day” celebration with the entire Third World joining forces to proclaim their hatred of the West.
This is what the Western moron e-right has been carrying water for for three years straight 😂
Soviet WW2 song about hatred of Europe.
—
That video confirms what ethnic Russian nationalist Wolf Stoner has to say about Putin’s neo-Bolshevik campaign in “Victory Frenzy” referred to here last year: “Russian Culture as Pseudomorphosis” at counter-currents.com
I’ve been to Russia three times, with two lovely Aryan Russian wives. That does not make me an expert on Russia by any stretch, but I can say that ethnic Russians, what’s left of them, are our people and European & American Whites should be building a most (bridge) between us and them.
I’ve been to Turkey also, which must be 98% non-White and Muslim. It’s preposterous to consider Middle-Eastern Turks as part of either the EU or NATO or of our race. Turks cannot make White babies. Fact!
When I listened to the panel discussion at the C-C Spring Retreat on the topic of “America and Europe in the Age of Trump” I didn’t consider Mr. Trump as being that big a factor, but recalled these words by Mr. Stoner in a comment he made four years ago about the Jew under this article “To Blend In” at nationalvanguard.org:
…Jews can exist only by sucking blood from productive nations; they can’t live by themselves. Even their cherished Israel can exist only because of massive financial and technological inflows from Europe and USA. When these entities come down, there will be no one to feed this Near East ulcer. Therefore, we should not particularly bother about jewish dreams of global dominance; it is misnomer; jews can’t govern even small entity…
Post WWII superpowers, America and Russia, are on a dead-end course that will likely benefit China, but not Jewry, in the long run, postulates Mr. Stoner.
White Russians are a European people too, but they are the principal victims (as well as the principal sustainers) of Putin’s multiracial regime, much as white Americans are the principal victims and sustainers of our evil regime. Fighting those regimes is the real common cause between American and Russian white nationalists.
There are many “based Russians.” I met one in your company just recently. But the most based Russians are fighting against Putin’s regime, including alongside Ukrainian soldiers. The only real lasting peace between Ukraine and Russia will come when Ukrainian and Russian White Nationalists rule their own nations.
I don’t think Turks are European though. Their civilization does not show a European pattern of technical innovation and philosophy. They are asiatic in soul and constitution. Great people in their way, but we should not interbreed with them to any large extent. You sort of see the effect they have in those places where they’ve ingressed historically, such as Sicily and southern Italy. They have a similar IQ profile to Turkey.
but in the podcast, Dutton says that Turks are not European although they have had periods in their history where they closely imitated Europeans.
Thank you for making these excellent speeches available for all to listen to. I especially enjoyed Edward Dutton’s detailed discussion on the question from the audience asking about Russians being considered Europeans.
Why not allow answers to the NA questioner at the end, what was the response from the team you put together? you went and met Dr. Pierce in person did you not 20 or so years ago
Thanks for the response. I was just interested in this. Hope there can be a US meeting this year. I know I a not adding anything here, but I really appreciate what you do
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Excellent podcast. Thank you very much.
What a great, funny opening analogy! Thanks, I needed that, glum as I was over the retirement of Radio Derb.
Yeah, I feel that too…how could he do this to us? First the diary, and now this
It’s nice listening to these recorded speeches again, especially after hearing them live, meeting the speakers and enjoying face-to-face discussions with some of them and with other invited guests. My wife and I thoroughly enjoyed the C-C Spring Retreat, the group camaraderie, and some of the planned. Old-Europe excursions.
Mentioned in the last minute of this podcast when Greg announced that there was time for one more question from the audience and…
“an American made a statement about the importance of William Pierce’s National Alliance, especially in its discussion of the so-called JQ.”
That sounds like something I might have said, except for the “so-called” part. ;o}
When I heard that reference during the podcast, I immediately thought of you!
Hyacinth Bouquet: June 14, 2025 When I heard that reference during the podcast, I immediately thought of you!
I’m flattered, Hyacinth. Perhaps that American mystery man’s statement from the audience that concluded the panel discussion was recorded and can be shared? ;o}
Ed Dutton and Greg Johnson severely overstate–here and elsewhere–the supposed mongolism of Russians. Russians have about 9% “NeoSiberian/Nganasan” ancestry, the rest being White, whereas Ukrainians have about 5%. Some difference.
Also, Anatolian farmer ancestry is NOT why Turks are not included among us. Greeks have about 40% of this component and 16-25% Caucasus Hunter Gatherer, yet Dutton sees Turks as being European inasmuch as they are Greek!
It’s not just war that molds people, as Angelo attests, it’s religion. The Turks are out because they’re Muslim and Russians and Greeks are in because they’re Christian (and obviously predominantly White by whatever restrictive criterion you use for the pure biological category). The irrelevance of the theology does not change this important psychological dimension.
Lawrence Brown, for all his brilliance, shocked me by saying that Communism was good to the extent that it retarded Russian strength and that what we really had to worry about was Russia’s national renaissance. This is exactly wrong. Brown was a crypto-Catholic who let a nonracial loyalty bias his thinking.
Russia is the most reliable ally in our struggle with the global south and is, in fact, the senior partner in that struggle.
I didn’t say anything about the “mongolism of Russians,” so you are just making up stuff.
Your claim that Russia is “the most reliable ally in our struggle with the global south and is, in fact, the senior partner in that struggle” is an obvious and asinine lie. Russia is, if anything, one of the major promoters of anti-white Third Worldism. Look at the recent Victory Day celebrations, including this video: https://t.me/guidetokulchur/6525
Spengler said Russia was the leader of the non-white world’s revolt against white nations. Putin certainly is competing with Jews for that dubious honor.
Liars don’t get to comment at Counter-Currents. You are forever banned.
Greg Johnson responds to Wiros: I didn’t say anything about the “mongolism of Russians,” so you are just making up stuff.
Your claim that Russia is “the most reliable ally in our struggle with the global south and is, in fact, the senior partner in that struggle” is an obvious and asinine lie. Russia is, if anything, one of the major promoters of anti-white Third Worldism. Look at the recent Victory Day celebrations, including this video: https://t.me/guidetokulchur/6525
Spengler said Russia was the leader of the non-white world’s revolt against white nations. Putin certainly is competing with Jews for that dubious honor.
Liars don’t get to comment at Counter-Currents. You are forever banned.
—
Thank you, Greg. especially for what’s revealed in that video:
—
Russian “Victory Day” celebration with the entire Third World joining forces to proclaim their hatred of the West.
This is what the Western moron e-right has been carrying water for for three years straight 😂
Soviet WW2 song about hatred of Europe.
—
That video confirms what ethnic Russian nationalist Wolf Stoner has to say about Putin’s neo-Bolshevik campaign in “Victory Frenzy” referred to here last year: “Russian Culture as Pseudomorphosis” at counter-currents.com
I’ve been to Russia three times, with two lovely Aryan Russian wives. That does not make me an expert on Russia by any stretch, but I can say that ethnic Russians, what’s left of them, are our people and European & American Whites should be building a most (bridge) between us and them.
I’ve been to Turkey also, which must be 98% non-White and Muslim. It’s preposterous to consider Middle-Eastern Turks as part of either the EU or NATO or of our race. Turks cannot make White babies. Fact!
When I listened to the panel discussion at the C-C Spring Retreat on the topic of “America and Europe in the Age of Trump” I didn’t consider Mr. Trump as being that big a factor, but recalled these words by Mr. Stoner in a comment he made four years ago about the Jew under this article “To Blend In” at nationalvanguard.org:
…Jews can exist only by sucking blood from productive nations; they can’t live by themselves. Even their cherished Israel can exist only because of massive financial and technological inflows from Europe and USA. When these entities come down, there will be no one to feed this Near East ulcer. Therefore, we should not particularly bother about jewish dreams of global dominance; it is misnomer; jews can’t govern even small entity…
Post WWII superpowers, America and Russia, are on a dead-end course that will likely benefit China, but not Jewry, in the long run, postulates Mr. Stoner.
Thanks Will.
White Russians are a European people too, but they are the principal victims (as well as the principal sustainers) of Putin’s multiracial regime, much as white Americans are the principal victims and sustainers of our evil regime. Fighting those regimes is the real common cause between American and Russian white nationalists.
There are many “based Russians.” I met one in your company just recently. But the most based Russians are fighting against Putin’s regime, including alongside Ukrainian soldiers. The only real lasting peace between Ukraine and Russia will come when Ukrainian and Russian White Nationalists rule their own nations.
I don’t think Turks are European though. Their civilization does not show a European pattern of technical innovation and philosophy. They are asiatic in soul and constitution. Great people in their way, but we should not interbreed with them to any large extent. You sort of see the effect they have in those places where they’ve ingressed historically, such as Sicily and southern Italy. They have a similar IQ profile to Turkey.
but in the podcast, Dutton says that Turks are not European although they have had periods in their history where they closely imitated Europeans.
Thank you for making these excellent speeches available for all to listen to. I especially enjoyed Edward Dutton’s detailed discussion on the question from the audience asking about Russians being considered Europeans.
Greg
Why not allow answers to the NA questioner at the end, what was the response from the team you put together? you went and met Dr. Pierce in person did you not 20 or so years ago
It wasn’t a question. It was a statement, and it was a nice way to wrap up the session, since our time was up.
Thanks for the response. I was just interested in this. Hope there can be a US meeting this year. I know I a not adding anything here, but I really appreciate what you do
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