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Josh Neal, author of American Extremist and Intolerant Interpretations, joined Greg Johnson on this episode of Counter-Currents Radio. It is now available to download or listen to online.
Topics include:
1:24 – Introducing Josh Neal.
16:16 – On getting doxed.
41:00 – Carl Jung and “racist” ideas.
51:17 – What is the source of the psychological differences between liberals and conservatives?
1:03:29 – The larger-scale institutions of a high-trust society.
1:18:00 – Conspiracy theories.
1:43:31 – The JQ in relation to conspiratorial thinking.
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14 comments
Thanks for the LOL RE: 4th Reich Greg: “if only.”
Another great interview, part of which goes together well with Laurent Guyénot’s “The Satanic False Flag” article over at unz.
I always hear about ‘the Jesuits’ or ‘the satanists’ or ‘q’ or the Rockefellers from my Christian friends and they’ve never even considered the JQ; which maybe should tell them something right off the bat?
I’ll look forward to when I can get the book.
It’s incredible how folks in the conspiracy sphere will consider the most implausible conspiracy protagonists yet not the one thing that actually makes sense …
You could probably open their mind a bit with the Khazarian theory though (even Solzhenitsyn chose that explanatory route).
In my experience, conspiracy-interested Christians are utterly brainwashed by Christian conspiracy theorists who insist that “the elites” are Satanic Luciferian Pagans (or something like that). It’s incredibly difficult for them to connect a Biblical identity group with an elite they abhor. The Bad Guys must thus always be the descendants of Biblical enemies: Egyptians, Canaanites, Babylonians (“Mystery Babylon”), Romans (“The Empire Never Ended”).
Christian-influenced conspiracy theorists have invented a whole multi-millenial genealogy of conspiracy to be able to draw a connection from ancient Mystery Cults to the modern elites. All cause they don’t want to draw a connection from current identity groups to current elites.
I mean it’s great fiction, but they think it’s real : (
Thanks for the information. I’m not very familiar with the Khazarian theory, but I have heard of it (I have some website pages bookmarked for future reading). Is there anything in particular you could direct me to where I could learn more?
It’s an outmoded theory that Ashkenazi Jews of Europe are not really derived from the people of the Old Testament, but rather represent early medieval Turkish converts to Judaism. There was a Kazarian empire in the caucus region in the early middle ages that held considerable sway. They converted to Judaism. However, I should tell you right away that the theory has been refuted by modern genetic evidence, supposedly. Generally, the people who adhere to it are Christian antisemites who don’t want Ashkenazi Jews to be the people of the Old Testament. Alternatively, there is a set of leftists, mostly Jewish, such as Arthur Koestler, who appeared to want to use it as a weapon against Zionism. I myself am slightly suspicious of the modern genetic evidence. This is mostly based upon science created by Jews, who have a loyalty to zionism. Myself, I’m taken by the similarities between Jews and Armenians. I think that there’s some sort of primordial relationship there. Ashkenazi Jews are not really similar to Turks in any way–no Turkish group is very high IQ that I’m aware of.
Well, the Khazarian theory is wrong because the AJ have a genetic profile that is incompatible with Khazar-like/Turkic groups.
Paternally (i.e. in terms of Y-DNA haplogroups), the AJ are similar to modern-day Lebanese (and points of divergence can be explained by Slavic admixture in the first and Arab admixture in the second case), which confirms that most of their male-line ancestors came indeed from the Levant. You can verify this yourself by comparing Y-DNA haplogroup frequencies from this table: https://eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml
Autosomally (i.e. in terms of all non-sex chromosomes), the AJ are basically a 50:50 mix of ancient Italians/Greeks and Levantines, with 10% of Slavic ancestry added in the end.
This can be very elegantly shown with the so-called K12 cluster analysis, where the genetic profiles of Old World populations (both current and ancient) are expressed in terms of 12 basic “clusters” of ancestry (pls don’t take the clusters or their names too literal, it’s just one particular way of looking at the data that is useful for comparisons).
Modern populations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GWhNZcfTQ2hMSK9Ni1IqG7aXHB00SRE5L6ED2osPs9M/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Ancient populations K12: https://eupedia.com/genetics/genomic_analysis_ancient_europeans.shtml
How this disproves the Khazarian theory: We see for example that “Iron Age Israel” scores 7.41% on the “Gedrosia” factor, which is very high all throughout current and past Anatolia, the Zagros Mountains, the Caucasus and the Steppes. Hence, ancient Israelites mixing with people from those regions would have massively increased the “Gedrosia” percentage – yet modern-day AJ score about 2.5% on it, which is far less than their Israelite ancestors. This puts strong constraints on possible admixture models, and basically the only thing that works is a Central Mediterranean population very low in the Gedrosia component.
Why only a “Weak Khazar Hypothesis” would be feasable: Khazars, as a Turkic group, must have had considerable Central Asian Mongoloid ancestry, which in the K12 would show up as a combination of the “Siberian” and the “East Asian” clusters. Today’s Turkmen people in Central Asia have about 6-7% of each, and today’s Turks about 3% each. Turkic tribes from the Middle Ages would have had 10% or more. Given that the AJ have about 0,5% of both (while SJ have nearly 0%), we can estimate that the former could have, at most, about 5% Turkic DNA. But given that modern Russians have a bit of those two clusters, too, 10% Russian-like admixture could explain it just as well (and we know there was about 10% overall Slavic admixture from the excess of the “North Europe” cluster in AJ compared to SJ).
One last note: The farther you go back in history, the less reliable the DNA data we have becomes (for several reasons). Yet modern-day DNA testing is very precise, reliable and widespread (and hence hard to falsify). The modern data + historical common sense already suffice to disprove the strong Khazar hypothesis.
What are diaspora Armenians like genetically?
@DarkPlato
No data on Diaspora Armenians, but several sets of Armenians:
Basically 13% “European” ancestry components, 13% “Arab” ancestry component and 56% “Caucasus” cluster (only Georgians and Abhkasians have more with 74% resp. 70%). Remainder (ca. 17%) is aforementioned “Gedrosia”.
What’s notable is that the Armenians have a genetic profile distinct from Georgians, Turks, Kurds or any other group in the region (at least when you test multiple people and average their DNA markers – there could be more ambiguity in the N=1 case), and they don’t have any discernable “Turkic”/Central Asian ancestry.
They’re very different from all Jewish groups in the dataset, except for Azerbaijani and Georgian Jews, who cluster closer to them than apparently any other group.
The ‘signs and wonders’ charismatic types are the most prone to indulging in these convoluted conspiracies. I think the willingness to believe that current Israeli Jews are the chosen 144,000, stem from nagging unbelief in the Christian faith. The ‘chosen ones’ must be as they claim because of their success as a distinct people. Plucky little Israel endures despite hostility in a sea of Muslims. Even genociding other peoples is not looked upon in askance because that is not that unusual in history, and it happened in the Old Testament. Revealing historical and present deceit and asking why wouldn’t the poor Palestinians might not be the actual Jews can break the hold on these people. Also asking if those recent historical events might reveal that the so-called chosen might not be Pharisees, as shown by their deeds, rather than God’s people, might be something to try.
I can remember a late 1980’s news story about a televangelist preacher pondering if God had raised Hitler up to admonish a people refusing to obey. I was quite young, but that got me thinking and wondering why so much fuss was made by ‘unbelieving groups’ worrying about that preacher’s claim being outside the pale while few cared about the victims of the Soviet Union.
“I can remember a late 1980’s news story about a televangelist preacher pondering if God had raised Hitler up to admonish a people refusing to obey.”
Heidegger believed that the Jews were the negation of being; Manson said Hitler was a tuned in guy who levelled the Karma of the Jews.
It appears that great minds do in fact think alike.
Dominic Fox: June 3, 2025 In my experience, conspiracy-interested Christians are utterly brainwashed by Christian conspiracy theorists who insist that “the elites” are Satanic Luciferian Pagans (or something like that)… Christian-influenced conspiracy theorists have invented a whole multi-millenial genealogy of conspiracy to be able to draw a connection from ancient Mystery Cults to the modern elites…
Thank you for that about the Christian Question (CQ), Dominic.
In listening to the final minutes of this broadcast it was good to hear discussion of the JQ with Dr. Johnson, mentioning Dr. Revilo P. Oliver, who had been wheedled into becoming a co-founder of the John Birch Society in 1958 but was “forced out (actually resigned)” in 1966 because JBS, which was anti-communist, failed to address the questions of Jews (JQ) or even the race question (RQ).
Must reads for White racial nationalists today are this by Dr. Oliver: “The Birch Burial” at nationalvanguard.org, and this, that omits that besides Drs. Oliver and Pierce, future non-Christian racial warriors, Ben Klassen and a young Robert Mathews, had also joined the JBS — thinking it was the only patriotic game in town at the time — before they also resigned in disgust: “Jewish Spying on the John Birch Society” at nationalvanguard.org.
1h18’15” An excellent gear shift in an already excellent conversation.
As Greg mentioned the ‘comfort’ aspect the ’90s David Twohy sci-fi movie with Charlie Sheen The Arrival popped into my head.
1h29’19” Amen. The JQ has to be employed as carefully and judiciously as saffron threads.
Unrelated – any update on the rescindment of your X account suspension or is it in perpetual limbo?
I have given up on X.
A perfect week in which to say so now Musk’s mask has dropped for all to see.
“Musk has become Bill Gates of the social media realm and George Soros of the Industrial Activist Complex – except he pays you in X payouts and likes and retweets”
I think you overestimate the unintelligent vulgar crowds. They have short attention spans, low educational levels, and/or low intelligence. They want schlocky entertainment with splash paranormal things. That accounts for the appeal of Alex Jones and his various epigones. Take for example TV stations. A&E and history channel used to have wonderful scholarly exposes very fascinating watching back in the 90s I recall. Overtime however, it became vulgarized with paranormal shows on Sasquatch and hauntings and ufos. Why? Because that’s what the vulgar crowds wanted and that’s what made money for them. However, public broadcasting relies on donations and not viewership and thus maintains a high brow content. This is how most people are. Arguing over Kevin McDonald and reading The culture of critique is just not gonna do it for the 99%. They want to read about Hilary clinton being a satanist and all.
Great show again today. You guys are wonderful “content creators.” 😉
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