American Krogan, Gaddius Maximus, & Pox Populi on the State of Nationalism
Counter-Currents RadioFriends of Counter-Currents American Krogan (Substack, Telegram), Gaddius Maximus, and Pox Populi (Telegram, YouTube) recently did a broadcast to discuss the state of nationalism on Building a Third Force, and it is now available for download and online listening.
The following is an outline/guide for the discussion that was inspired by the results of polls that were conducted on Telegram.
1. What and when
What do you consider “the movement” to be?
When would you say the modern version of the radical Right coalesced?
Was it in reaction to something in particular, or was it a combination of events?
Possible candidates:
Social media/smart device ubiquity
Black Lives Matter riots (2014)
The migrant invasion, terror attacks
Gamergate
Populist revolt: Trump/Brexit
Other/combination
With this in mind, let’s consider the state of the movement today compared to then:
2. Metapolitical Conditions
How does the general narrative pushed by the system/regime today compare to that which existed when the modern movement started?
Is the regime media more “mask off” about their aims now? If so, is this good or bad?
Has the credibility of the regime suffered since the movement started? Does it matter? Why or why not?
Movement influence on the general discourse:
Increased/decreased?
Ideas and talking points becoming mainstream?
Outside events working in our favor
Regime overplaying their hand?
Basic things previously taken for granted no longer functioning
Breakdown of social trust/capital
3. The Political
Where is the movement most powerful in the actual political arena?
Voting? Referendums?
Protests
Civil disobedience, non-compliance
Politicians — any?
Policies and rulings
Which countries/nations have been leading the way?
Issue movements: secession and the like
4. Survey of Institutions
Platform access:
Has deplatforming worked?
The rise, limits, and benefits of alt tech
Muskian Twitter and Substack
Financial services:
Bitcoin
Banking
Crowdfunding
Alt media landscape
Venues and conferences
5. Personnel (the lads and ladettes)
Quantity & quality:
Are there more or less people who have adopted radical Right positions?
Quality of leadership and figureheads
Quality of rank and file
The Jerry Springer Right
Cohesion:
Factional strife over petty or serious issues? (Schizo Wars, Russia War)
The Pipeline:
is it real?
Is it still functioning?
Is there more than one?
Has it changed?
Current general attitude and overall morale?
Realistic expectations
Where we’re headed
To listen in a player, click here. To download, right-click the link and click “save as.”
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Anyone with French skills check to find out if France has stopped bringing in non-Europeans (since non-Europeans trashed France for days)?
I only hope the Caucasus will soon not be pictured in the colors of Russian flag.
Why? Better than anything Turkish. At this point it might as well become fully Europeanized.
The peoples of Caucasus has right for their own statehood, their independency and their own flags.
And it’s currently being overrun by Central Asiatic Turks. Better to be Russian or Europeanized than what it is now. Turkish leaders are throwing away homogeneity for Neo-Ottomanism.
Central Asian Türks, specifically Özbeks and Kyrgyzs, now overrun Moscow, much more than the Caucasus. There is no much space here to absorb them. And no much jobs.
Better to be Russian or Europeanized than what it is now.
No, we do not want to be Russified or Europanized. We want to stay who we are.
Russians are not Europeans.
I noticed nonwhites always do this. They think somehow they get to decide who is European. Too bad for them they do not. Russians are European. Russia is in Europe. There are more blonde hair and blue eyes in Russia than there are in Germany. Nonwhites have a predilection to divide the white race like Red Sea because they know it’s the only way they can survive.
Russia is in Europe.
23% of it is. 77% of Russia is in Asia. Most of Russia’s population is in Europe.
Normally I don’t care about e-celebs, but this Ethan Ralph/Nick Fuentes feud needs to be addressed because it underscores the unholy alliances made for socioeconomic expediency, which predictably unravel spectacularly. Also, the roots of these ‘beefs’ are based on financial incentives for ‘drama.’ The types of people drawn to this have been proven to be disproportionately homosexual, effete, petty, substance-abusers, sociopaths etc in the exact same way Jews are disproportionately dominate in all political ideologies, finance and LGBT.
His alliances certainly made him a household name and helped him hold court with some powerful names in one year. I ignored the Fuentes gay rumors for years because most of it was clearly just failed humor/skits that only dishonest or autistic weirdos could not distinguish from reality, and I wanted to see what it would all lead to.
(Yeah, he really had gay sex off camera with a womanizer in a maid’s outfit immediately after putting on a performance for a livestream. Just stop.)
However, his debate with his former staffer sounded like two former gay lovers quarreling about an HIV test. There’s stuff that two normal men never do and certainly never brush off like it never happened, such as making moves on each other, with both denying it. It is one thing if it’s an attempted humorous performance for an audience like the catboy thing, but it’s another entirely when it involves black lights, getting blackout drunk etc in private.
Also, it isn’t normal to be a kid involved or concerned about politics whatsoever. Regular kids are too busy with sports and all that. I knew literally nothing about politics until I was out of high school. I didn’t know what ‘gun-control’ meant or how abortions actually occurred. Sending nudes to an older man when you’re in high school means you’re gay. There is no quid pro quo. You’re just leveraging your youthful homosexuality. You’re not simply ‘abused.’ So all of the clowns at TRS trying to bring Fuentes down for that are really justifying something that also doesn’t add up like their sons getting caught with gay porn.
None of these podcasters will ever be politicians or kingmakers.
I do not like the map at all. And not only because all colonized peoples of Russia do not have their own flags. The same can be said also about Europe. Where is the Bavarian flag? Where is the Catalonian flag? Where is the Scotch flag? Why Brezhoneds and Northern Italians do not have their own flags? And so on.
The time of empires, both big and small, is over, and the ethnonationalism means that all peoples should have their right on their own statehoods and independences.
I doubt there are many maps, if any, of all of the flags of European nations that don’t have their own state.
I would love a link to the VDare article with the stats about aggregate black on white murders larger than total dead American men in WWII.
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