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Greg Johnson vs. Mark Collett on the Ukraine War & James O’Meara on The Writers’ Bloc
Greg Johnson
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On Saturday, October 15th, 2022, Greg Johnson will have a civil airing of differences about the Ukraine war with Patriotic Alternative’s Mark Collett on Joel Davis’ YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/Er2TzQVuR68
After the debate, Greg will do an AMA on Counter-Currents Radio:
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On Sunday, October 16th, 2022, Nick Jeelvy welcomes CC’s own James O’Meara to discuss Better Call Saul, plus YOUR QUESTIONS. Starting at 1:00 pm PST, 4:00 pm EST, 10:00 CET on:
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It’s a weird premise that Mark Collett seems to put forth, that if Ukraine is not conquered by Russia it will immediately become like our current Western nations, with mass immigration, LGBT propaganda etc. As if those were the only two alternatives. That obviously hasn’t become the case with other Eastern European countries who have been members in EU and NATO for a long time. Third world immigrants are usually not even interested in moving to poorer European countries. Moreover much degenerative propaganda comes through media, films and series etc, and enters countries like Russia and affect their lifestyle as well. Everything does not depend on if you are member of EU or not
I can agree that there are certain aspects about the Russian Federation that are positive and in some ways it’s more culturally healthy than The West. But I don’t see what relevance that has when talking about the war in Ukraine. One must be extremely naive if one believes that the purpose with the invasion is to liberate Ukraine from some harmful Western liberal influence. Neither has it anything to do with protecting ethnic Russians in Donbass. Kremlin started the war 2014 themselves and Ukrainians have been trying to take back their territory. Keep in mind that these are regions that, as Greg mentioned, have voted to become part of the independent Ukraine, and have a Ukrainian majority population.
As everybody can see now Russian Federation has annexed not only Donetsk and Lugansk but also two other regions (and it would certainly have been more if they had been more successful). It’s ludicrous to continue making the point that Putin only has been stepping in as a protector of the people in Donbass, with intention not to start a war but to end it as he claimed himself.
Putin is an imperialist and sees Ukraine as a part of Russia. He does not want Ukraine to exist as an independent nation with separate identity. In occupied areas Ukrainian language is immediately removed from the school subjects, Ukrainian symbols, nationalistic art etc are destroyed. In Kherson the occupiers erected a Lenin statue that had been destroyed by Ukrainian nationalists. This is what the Western pro-Putinists actually are supporting.
If Putin was concerned by cultural degeneration imposed by the West he could have joined forces with Ukrainian nationalists and conservatives who definitely don’t want any LGBT propaganda etc. But these people he regards as his worst enemies.
Mark Collett talks about issues he does not understand. Unfortunately I think his simplistic narrative appeals to many nationalists who will keep cheering for Putin.
It has arisen a strange contempt for the Ukrainian nation among many Western nationalists, who read RT and listens to various pro-Russian commentators, and who are obsessed by the fact that some US politicians took part in the Maidan activities. It’s a pity they never went to visit this nice, almost completely white nation, which has very distinct and pleasant culture and character. There are many things to improve there but with a mainly homogeneous population it has a great potential and could become a role model for a white ethnostate. It would be a tragedy if Mark Collett got as he wanted and it all just became absorbed into the multiethnic Russian Federation.
I also would like to make a remark on the fact that Westerners debate and often speculate about circumstances in Ukraine and Russia, without inviting and people from these countries. It would have been more interesting if Greg and Mark were joined by for example a Ukrainian nationalist and a pro-Putin Russian.
An impressive C-C debate once again.
I don’t find the argument very convincing that Putin and Russia are somehow fighting ZOG.
Instead, what it appears to me is that, for whatever reasons, Putin took the bait and is now being dangled on the hook and will continue to flip wildly as the body count mounts on both sides. Then ZOG will throw them back into the pond.
I’m not seeing any national winners here.
The longer this conflict goes on the worse it will be for Ukraine, Russia, and for Europe.
It will not help America either, but at least Interventionism is not a very popular idea in Biden’s America right now. Besides, the Ukrainian (((leadership))) are about as trustworthy as room service in Saigon.
Furthermore, I don’t see what this has to do with NATO. The EU and NATO and global degenerate ZOG are not the same things.
Putin has made NATO more relevant than at any time since the Cold War. Nobody strong-armed neutral Sweden and Finland into this defensive alliance ─ besides Russia’s unfortunate invasion of Ukraine. Score two points for more heightened tensions and brinksmanship.
France withdrew from NATO in the 1960s, and though Macron brought them fully back into the fold in 2009, France still maintains an independent nuclear deterrent as well as a commitment to peaceful nuclear power over Middle Eastern or Russian fossil fuels. (I wonder if Greta is happy that the pipelines went boom.)
I am in any case not convinced that supporting the Ukrainians would shorten the war or help in any way, despite conceding that the Neoconservatives are no friends of Russia, Ukraine or anyone else. The Neocons do seem to be fully calling the shots here. So ZOG wins regardless of who wins.
The great insight that this is all just American “Hollyweird” materialistic machinations that ends once Putin wins seems a little bit hollow.
One would think that the Brits are fully blameless for the state of their state and that it’s really the Americans all along who are their ruling class.
Albion needs to look into the mirror once in awhile.
All of us WN need to do so ─ and to account for the traitors in our own midst. There’s plenty of blame to go around.
I don’t know how we shorten or end this war, but I think the best course is to try not to escalate it. Russia seems to be a paper bear but still a very dangerous one.
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