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Print April 4, 2023 39 comments

How to Leave the Movement

Greg Johnson

Edmund Blair Leighton, Farewell, 1922

1,782 words

What do you do if you believe that nothing in the world is more important than White Nationalism — that we are not just fighting for our race’s survival, but for all that is good and holy; indeed, for the very survival of life on Earth — and then you want to leave? Given the importance of the cause, you’d need a pretty good reason to quit, right?

But what if you want to leave to focus on your education, family, and career? What if you are just burned out and need a break? What if you are tired of dealing with pathological personalities and personal betrayals? What if you are leaving because you just don’t see how your engagement is accomplishing anything? Don’t these reasons seem selfish and trivial by comparison to the cause?

In my opinion, all of these are perfectly good reasons to take a break from movement activity or leave it altogether. But honestly, although you should have good reasons for everything you do, you don’t need to share your reasons with me. You don’t need my permission to leave. You can always leave no questions asked.

But you should say something, because if you just go silent, your friends and comrades will be worried about you. It is also demoralizing when people just disappear.

What does it mean to say that you can come and go from the most important movement in the world, no questions asked?

First, we need to talk about what being part of our movement really means. Since the movement is largely online propaganda, the most minimal sense of “joining” or “leaving” is simply logging on to consume online propaganda, and then logging off again. There are plenty of people who don’t want you to read this website. But you don’t need my permission to log in or out of our online spaces.

If you want to join different movement groups, of course, you will find entry and exit to be more difficult.

Can you help the movement by doing nothing but consuming online propaganda? Yes, you can.

Ideas matter. By reading Counter-Currents, you are changing your ideas, and eventually that will change your behavior. And if enough people do that, we can change the course of history.

But in the meantime, even if you are merely passively consuming “content,” you are helping. By reading our sites, you are generating “clicks” that help other people find the sites through search engines. At Counter-Currents, we also sell advertising, which helps us stay online. People pay us just on the chance that you will do something more than just passively consume information.

For every thousand people who visit this site, maybe a hundred of them do something more than simply read articles or listen to podcasts. They might share a link, post a comment, or click on an advertisement.

Some comments are profound. Some are dumb or annoying. But even an anodyne comment that nobody responds to can help foster a sense of community and boost people’s morale.

For every thousand people who visit this site, one of them will actually send money to it through a donation or book purchase.

I don’t know how many of our readers do anything in the movement IRL (“in real life”). But we are betting that the ideas you encounter here will influence your life in countless ways, from your conversation topics to your choice of a movie, a career, or a mate. If you see the world differently, you will act differently.

I would be delighted if, of the more than two million unique visitors who are likely to come here this year, more than 200 of them will actually attend Counter-Currents events.

Now, before you start thinking that the numbers are stacked against us, let me just say that the numbers have always been stacked against every radical political movement. But small, organized minorities have made revolutions before. Indeed, they are the only force that makes revolutions. The masses are always moved and steered by minorities.

Beyond that, these numbers are actually good, so first and foremost, I am grateful. But these numbers can also get better, so after I thank you, I want to encourage all of you to do more.

I am not, however, going to insult, badger, bully, or gaslight you — for the simple reason that I think our movement will grow best if we all allow each person to choose his own level of involvement and respect such decisions, while gently reminding everyone that we need to do more if we are going to win. Indeed, the idea that people can come and go, no questions asked, is just one implication of respecting people’s decisions about their level of commitment.

Let’s dispense with the idea that being part of the movement is an all-or-nothing proposition. If you are thinking of quitting, why not consider taking a vacation or cutting back instead? If you are thinking of quitting, why not just quit one group and join another instead?

There are movement groups that model themselves on boot camps, cults, or totalitarian political parties. These groups try to make it very hard to quit. They frame it as an all-or-nothing proposition. This doesn’t prevent people from quitting, of course. It just ensures that they quit in a noisy way, which makes it less likely for new people to join.

If movement membership is either all or nothing, more people are going to choose nothing rather than all. Thus it is self-defeating to frame things in this manner.

You can buy Greg Johnson’s The Year America Died here.

For many people today, being a White Nationalist is merely one more “extremely online” lifestyle, all of which have addictive aspects, which make them very difficult to quit. If your participation in the movement becomes an addiction, then it really does become an all-or-nothing choice. Again, this doesn’t prevent people from quitting. It merely ensures that they quit in a wrenching and permanent manner.

How, then, can we avoid turning the movement into just an online addiction?

This movement should not be your life. The movement is a more-than-full-time job for me, and still it is not my entire life. I have non-political friends and pastimes. If I didn’t, I would have burned out a long time ago. If you believe nothing is more important than serving our cause, you still need to take time off, or you will become useless to the cause.

Now let’s run through some of these supposedly trivial reasons for leaving. Again, as far as I am concerned, you need not give me any reasons. But if you were to give me these reasons, I would say the following, then respect any decision you make.

First, you want to focus on your family, education, and career. That is laudable. But if you feel that you need to leave the movement to do these things, you are mistaken. Even if you think that nothing is more important than the cause, the cause itself is served best by people who are well-rounded and excellent in all walks of life. If you lead an exemplary life, you will attract people to the movement, strengthen it, and ensure that you are in it for the long haul.

Political commitment should never be an excuse for a stunted and disordered life. If you need to scale back your commitments or take a break to work on yourself, you are working for the cause.

Second, you are burned out and need a break. Thank you for your service. Take a break and come back when you feel better. But in the future, to prevent burnout, you might want to strike a better balance between the movement and other aspects of your life. If you can’t bring yourself to do that for yourself, try doing so for the cause.

Third, you are tired of pathological people. I get it. But the entire movement does not consist of pathological people, so maybe you just need to associate with a better crowd.

Fourth, your engagement is not accomplishing anything. Even though you can help by merely consuming online content, even though you can also help by mere “shitposting,” you still don’t feel like you are accomplishing anything. It feels empty and pointless, a waste of time. Perhaps you yearn for IRL activism, especially group activism, but you are frustrated by the absence of political opportunities and by state repression of such groups.

My first thought is that maybe you should not quit but instead simply consider doing different things that are more productive or satisfying. My second thought is not to quit, but take time off to work on other aspects of your life. If there are no outlets for group activism at present, then consider focusing your efforts on self-improvement, mutual aid, or just enjoying one another’s company. Again, a movement that requires accomplished, well-rounded individuals should encourage such groups. And if political opportunities present themselves, you will have a tight network already in place that can spring into action.

If you make it difficult for people to change their levels of commitment, they will simply quit. If you make it difficult for people to take breaks, they will simply quit. If you make it difficult for people to quit, they will engineer dramatic breaks.

I have seen a lot of exits from the cause over the years, especially after Charlottesville. These exits have been either freely chosen or forced by circumstances like doxing. They have either been quiet or dramatic.

I believe that many of the dramatic exits took place because the person in question could not allow himself to just take a break for personal reasons.

If you believe that you can only leave our world-shaking and momentous cause for something even more world-shaking and momentous, you have a strong motive to feign some sort of dramatic conversion to a new worldview. Religious forms of apostasy are particularly attractive because there is a taboo on questioning their sincerity. I don’t subscribe to that taboo. In my book, the only bad reason for quitting White Nationalism is a conversion, real or feigned, to an anti-white worldview.

If the movement is an all-consuming cult or an addiction, then you can’t just take a break. You’ve got to wrench yourself away from it.  If you want the break to be irrevocable, you will do something unforgivable. Thus I have encountered people who have engineered bitter personal breaks, betrayed good people to the enemy, and even race-mixed — all because they couldn’t allow themselves to just take a sabbatical.

This is why I am convinced that we will actually recruit and retain people better by being easygoing about entry and exit.

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39 comments

  1. Liam Kernaghan says:
    April 4, 2023 at 11:45 am

    Third, you are tired of pathological people. I get it. But the entire movement does not consist of pathological people, so maybe you just need to associate with a better crowd. 

    What happens when those pathological individuals won’t let you move on with your life and actively screw things up for you in your attempts at self-improvement out of sheer envy, spite and a desire for control over you. I heard of a case a few years ago; a movement meeting was attended by several younger people who had expressed an interest in getting involved, only to have one of the organisers of the meeting film them purely so that they would not be able to drop out! YOU ARE OUR PROPERTY NOW! What a scumbag and how desperate!. The organisation in question was and still is of electoral insignificance and highly insular mindset with a toxic and outdated image.

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      April 4, 2023 at 12:07 pm

      This is definitely cult behavior.

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  2. Richard Chance says:
    April 4, 2023 at 2:14 pm

    Fantastic article and I completely agree.  I’ve always said anytime the DR loses anyone, it has everything to do with “movement burnout” and nothing to do with having some weird change of heart.  There is no unswallowing the red pill.  However, there are plenty of folks who long for the time when they could just live a normal life and not have stroke-level blood pressure readings everytime they turn their TV on or go online.

    When everything you believe in politically and philosophically is denigrated and preached against 24/7 (and let’s face it, the U.S. has a propaganda machine that could put anything the Soviets or the Third Reich had to shame), taking the occasional hiatus is not only a good idea but absolutely vital, as is having a life outside of politics.  For instance, I have close to 100 books on my “to read” list, and I’d say less than 10% of them have anything to do with white nationalism.  You need a life outside of this thing, or you will end up in the very institutions they want to put us in anyway.

    Lastly, I think a big reason a lot of folks shy away from rl events or meetups is because so many DR advocates have proven to be neurotic and untrustworthy snakes in the past (as Mr. Goad wrote about recently in regards to the disgraceful behavior of many after Charlottesville).  Also, right-wing street level activism tends to result in jail time.  Good luck avoiding discouragement while incarcerated.

    Anyway, I really enjoyed the optimism in this article, as well as the encouraging words for those suffering dissident fatigue.  I have a feeling they were needed and appreciated by many of the readers here.

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      April 4, 2023 at 2:25 pm

      Thanks. One of the worst traits of the movement is the tendency toward cults: quasi-religious cults and cults of personality. Cults of personality don’t happen by accident. They are intentionally fostered by people with extreme personality disorders. They consume the time, energy, idealism, and money of idealistic people by promising political change but instead just flush them down the black hole of a needy narcissist’s ego.

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      1. Desert Flower says:
        April 4, 2023 at 2:49 pm

        Yep

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        1. Will Williams says:
          April 4, 2023 at 8:20 pm

          Yep, indeed. But it moight be more helpful to identify and warn readers about the cult leaders, quasi-religious cult leaders and cults of personality leaders that are led by the identifiable men with personality disorders and their phony groups, rather than just name those types.

          The worst of these arguably was one “Gen Sec” Harold A Covington, who for decades, from the 1970s until his death in 2018, leading one failed “movement” group after another, sabotaged legitimate pro-White leaders and groups with the most malicious lies imaginable. Much of his treachery is documented and saved here for anyone interested in a textbook example of a fraudulent “movement” leader: Setting the Record Straight by Hadding Scott | National Vanguard

          Jews shut down that instructive site but it has since been resurrected.

          As recent as last week here at C-C  I witnessed a commentator who had been sucked into Covington’s final iteration of a phony “movement” group, the Northwest Front —  mostly because Covington, as sick as he was, had a talent for turning a phrase, and attracting lovers of fantasy fiction with several self-published “movement” novels.

          Greg, you’ll remember your 5,700-word interview with Covington 13 years ago, here: Interview with Harold Covington | Counter-Currents . Covington spins quite an elaborate yarn about himself, his novels, and his “movement” history. He failed to mention, however, the six-figure judgment I had won against him in 1998 for defamation. It’s too bad there are no comments under that interview. I recall there were plenty back then. 

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  3. Bobby says:
    April 4, 2023 at 2:34 pm

    Thanks for the very thoughtful piece Greg.

    Yes, it is absolutely vital to take a break from it all at times.  One can go insane trying to ‘stay sane’ in the ‘insane’ Jewish controlled world that we all live in.

    “I would be delighted if, of the more than two million unique visitors who are likely to come here this year, more than 200 of them will actually attend Counter-Currents events.”

    I myself have never been to C-C event.  How would I find out about one?

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      April 4, 2023 at 4:06 pm

      Write to [email protected]. Thanks!

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      1. Bobby says:
        April 5, 2023 at 6:32 am

        Cool.  Thanks Greg!

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  4. Liam Kernaghan says:
    April 4, 2023 at 3:17 pm

    This is why I am convinced that we will actually recruit and retain people better by being easygoing about entry and exit.

    Exactly, as opposed to being emotionally blackmailed whilst very young without much life experience by latter-day tin-pot dictator wannabees who want to impose their will upon you, and at the same time using you as a conduit for their social revenge fantasies against a conventional society that wants no truck with them due to their social dysfunction.

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  5. Stephen Paul Foster says:
    April 4, 2023 at 4:57 pm

    Last week was grim, one of the worst in a long time: Trump indictment, Nashville school shooting and the MSM spin on it, the conviction of Ricky Vaughn — very discouraging and demoralizing.

    With times like that, maybe it’s best to tune out for a short time and read some good poetry, a serious novel or a Shakespeare play or something that provides a deeper perspective and some relief.

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      April 5, 2023 at 1:16 am

      Good suggestion. A lot of burnout is caused simply by “doom scrolling”: addict-like consumption of bad news online. If you can’t make anything positive out of it, at a certain point, you just have to wrench yourself away and do something pleasant and uplifting. There’s a lot of beauty in the world, and unlike doom porn, it actually deserves your attention.

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  6. Justin E says:
    April 4, 2023 at 8:53 pm

    Mr. Johnson

    First time commenting here on CC, and thanks for your work and impacting my life. Question – what might be someone who is in in financial debt (students loans, credit cards, any other form of money lending) who started to get into movement think and is psychologically liberated but financially not? I know one fellow awakened friend who keeps quiet due to his student loans and fear of doxing that could cripple his chances to pay back loans. Thoughts?

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      April 5, 2023 at 1:11 am

      Thanks for reading, and thanks for commenting.

      The debt issue is just a smaller part of the overall issue of living well in a repressive society. The better the standard of living you aspire to, the more outward conformity you will have to give to the system. That’s just reality. But you can still help the cause while remaining a “secret agent” within the system. I wrote an article on this topic: https://counter-currents.com/2010/11/secret-agents/

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  7. Joe Gould says:
    April 4, 2023 at 9:08 pm

    “What do you do if you believe that nothing in the world is more important than White Nationalism — that we are not just fighting for our race’s survival, but for all that is good and holy; indeed, for the very survival of life on Earth — and then you want to leave?”

    Buy lifetime subscriptions to everything you can really afford. This has two benefits.

    Once pro-Whites have your money, it’s too late for antiwhites to change the rules to stop you paying or donating to friends of our race.

    If you have to go away for a while, or quit for reasons that seem permanent but turn out not to be, it’s easier to come back if everything is paid for and set up. It all seems like pro-White space is still your home. Which it is.

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      April 5, 2023 at 12:45 am

      That’s actually a very good idea. Thanks.

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  8. Gallus says:
    April 5, 2023 at 2:06 am

    I’ve only just joined and I wondered if this was the editor regretting my membership? I jest Dr Johnson, it’s great to be here. Fatigue can hit us all at different points and it’s not hard to become as such. The world we find ourselves in is one of daily (if not hourly) attrition. From white hate to the seemingly overwhelming rise in transgender lies describing them as victims while they murder kids and teachers is enough to make anyone doubt the sanity of contemporary thought.

    I live in a very white area and its very traditional and Christian. Day to day with my friends and neighbours I’m free to absorb their time and energy. However, the threats are not lost on me and I try as much as I can to foster relationships with like minded outside of my bubble. This (Counter Currents) is a perfect example.

    For me, it’s not about doubts or pauses or leaving because we are being deracinated before our eyes. It’s about doing as much as I can without threatening my work and income. I work in a very ‘diverse’ industry and my main frustration is being forthright to a point without being the target of a colleague who is ‘progressive’.

    I’m also a subscriber to European Conservative. I pay for the hard copy because they are very nice quarterly magazines but the website is completely free. I avoid the news and focus on the commentary, essays and interviews. They are mostly positive and inspiring stories and individuals that may give a positive perspective that the current MSM will certainly not. I’d also describe some things on that website as a source of beauty. EDIT: Not to say there are not topics of beauty on CC. I wouldn’t be so bold as to add the link here. I’d consider it rude, but it’s easy to find. It’s nothing like CC. Ergo no conflict or substitute.

    Another ‘time out’ suggestion to avoid the melancholies is to step away from all this fuckery for a day or two a week. Reset your mind and your purpose. You will feel better for it.

    It does feel hopeless at times and I’ve been there many times. We do have a lot of positives despite being told how evil we are as a race.

    Look for some facts that put things into perspective. For example, if the media in the UK is to be believed, the African and Caribbean population of the UK, England in particular is between 15-20% and even more represented on mainstream TV. The actual figure according to the 2021 census is 4%. Find out the facts and ignore the hype.

    Lastly, keep the faith.

    PS, I’d love to attend a CC event, but being UK based, it’s highly unlikely.

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    1. Traddles says:
      April 5, 2023 at 1:29 pm

      It’s good to “meet” you here, Gallus.  That’s a good idea about taking some 1-day or 2-day time outs occasionally, especially considering all the madness confronting us now.  I’ll take a look at European Conservative.

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      1. Gallus says:
        April 6, 2023 at 3:44 am

        Likewise Traddles.

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  9. Killian says:
    April 5, 2023 at 10:56 am

    People should have the right to have dignity and retire from activism to return to private life just as a soldier is not obligated to be a lifetime veteran. You serve and get out. New blood recycles. Most are just weekend warriors. The most important aspect of white nationalism is actually manifesting whiteness, which most people do without ever thinking about politics. They commingle with other whites and build communities. When you’re in the Taliban, you ‘retire’ only when you’re killed. There is no civilian life after mujahideen. The best example of doing it right was Marcus Halberstrom. He had a doxxing scare and got out before it reached him, apparently even ghosting his longtime friend/cohost who he himself doesn’t know what happened to him either.

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      April 5, 2023 at 2:16 pm

      I do think that people should be able to take breaks or retire. But I think it is bad form to just ghost people. If they were genuine friends/comrades, they’ll feel slighted if they think you are all right, and they will feel bad if they think you came to harm.

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  10. Pro-White Breakthrough! says:
    April 5, 2023 at 11:41 am

    What a wonderful painting!

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  11. Beau Albrecht says:
    April 5, 2023 at 1:54 pm

    I’m of two minds on this.  Granted, it makes sense to have a way for people to do at least something if they can’t (or won’t) commit to much effort.  Likewise, lack of “work / life balance” can be a problem.  Finally, I’ll concur that armchair Caesars who make big demands on their followers are pestilential.

    On the other hand, it seems to me that we more commonly suffer from too little effort than too much effort.  This goes against the right’s natural strength, which is quality over quantity.  Although the average leftist isn’t all that and a bag of chips, they tend to have a lot of commitment to their cause.  If normal society stood up to them and had as much enthusiasm, it would be “game over”.

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      April 5, 2023 at 2:18 pm

      It is a balancing act. We have to let people come and go as they please, and determine their own level of involvement, if good people are to get involved at all. But we also need to increase their intensity and commitment if we are going to win.

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  12. Anon says:
    April 5, 2023 at 6:01 pm

    Dr. Johnson, thank you for writing this article. I have felt that my passive consumption of white nationalist content has become “an online addiction.” I would prefer to be involved in the movement in a more profound way. However, I am unsure as to how to accomplish this given my fear of doxxing. I feel that my passive participation has become nothing more than a waste of time. Would you advise me to decrease my consumption of content?

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      April 6, 2023 at 2:39 am

      Thanks for this message. If you do feel that passive participation has become just a waste of time, then yes, you should do less online content consumption. As for becoming more profoundly involved, I don’t know your situation, so I can’t really advise you on your fears of doxing. Perhaps that is what you should focus your online time on: reading about ways to increase your online and offline security, so you can start participating in deeper ways while maintaining your security.

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  13. Lord Shang says:
    April 5, 2023 at 6:07 pm

    This is a very, very wise article, the kind that back in the 1970s-90s I used to long to see. What “kind” is that? Those exhibiting sanity and even just normality. The reason (I believe, but strongly so) that we have been thus far defeated is that the Left/diversitists captured the modal American (and then soon, Western) conscience. They did this by somehow conflating in the public mind [real] white racism, which is a species of malice and therefore distasteful to ethically superior persons (amongst which number so many whites, especially relative to other races), with white racial preservationism.

    In my personal “old days” (again, 1970-90s), the older whites in my family and among their friends pretty much all thought as I do, despite being much less knowledgeable about the subject (sadly, any halfway bright white cannot help but have a greater understanding of race today than 40 or 50 years ago). I distinctly recall discussing the issue of nonwhite immigration with my wonderful and very Christian parents when I was home from college one time in the early 80s (actually, we had many other discussions about the subject: my mother was a suburban mom involved in her free time in the 1970s-80s with the restrictionist group FAIR). They were against it, obviously, despite never (in my recollection) mentioning any of the many race-neutral reasons to oppose it, such as its ecological unsustainability, or its negative economic effects on working class wages (I do recall the conversation noting that it would be bad for the GOP long term). They understood that this was a threat to “our Western culture” (my mother’s words) and our survival as a “European nation” (dad).

    Of course they were right, perhaps more than they then could have imagined. I doubt any of us then predicted that nonwhites  – with white allies – would one day actively and literally seek to tear down that culture and heritage. We just thought that over time and with enough population change the nation itself would undergo a subtle psychic and cultural transformation away from its Anglo-European identity (which is also happening, of course, along with the regular spasms of antiwhite cultural and physical violence). Peter Brimelow, in his Alien Nation, later nicely captured this idea by offering up the example of the slow movement of clouds on a lazy summer day as a metaphor for how immigration transforms a nation. During a picnic, one would hardly notice the changes happening in the sky. But a photo of the cloud cover after a few hours might look very different from one taken at the picnic’s start.

    My point, however, is that my parents saw nothing whatsoever morally contradictory between their Christianity and their white American preservationism. Forget Darwinian evolutionary arms races, or ethnopolitical conflict theories. What, precisely, is wrong with keeping America (let alone the ancient nations and ‘thick’ cultures of England, France, Italy, Germany, etc) majority white? Our people founded, settled and (I’ll be forensically super-generous) 99% built the nation as it had evolved by 1965 (when a radical new immigration policy, one inaugurating an unGreat Replacement of the Historic American People, was legislated under an avalanche of mendacious and intentionally misleading propaganda). We had and still have every moral as well as legal right (I would go further and say “duty” – but this is a much more complicated moral claim) to have an immigration policy favoring our race – favoring the maintenance of our nation’s traditional identity. No one has any sort of inherent right to impose himself anywhere he pleases; at the least, it’s up to any given electorate to decide the criteria for foreign admissions. And a xenophobic policy is – again, a minimal claim – no less worthy (or contemptible) than a xenophilic one.

    Yet somehow the xenophilic diversitists have won the PR battle over racial morality. I assert that this has to change for many more whites, or our movement will never become a political majority.

    The relevance of this to Dr. Johnson’s post above is only that the latter is an example of reasonableness intruding into a rhetorical space more often characterized by extremism and abnormality. If I had shown National Alliance materials, or the writings of Revilo Oliver, to my parents 40 years ago not only would they have been repulsed, they might well have been made uneasy wrt their anti-immigrationism (the NA is still something I myself would not wish to be associated with, despite my long involvement with moderate nationalism). Or if not them, then certainly some of their wonderful, but less intelligent and committed white friends. I’m sure something like that moral consensus obtained in Britain, too. “You want to stop coloured immigration. do you? So do those Nazi skinheads marching in their steel toes with the National Front” (that some of those skinheads were also genuine hooligans didn’t help the broader white cause, either). However unfair and decontextualized the comparison, it often sticks, especially with the mentally average majority, and especially in the context of near-complete antiwhite control of education and mass media.

    Our message in and of itself, and without recourse to weird (ie, non-modal) religions, archaic modes of discourse, or behavioral extremism, is enough – if we can just get enough of our people to listen to it.

     

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    1. Liam Kernaghan says:
      April 6, 2023 at 8:27 am

      “if we can just get enough of our people to listen to it.” 

      Network; be a good neighbour; help; give. Try and view people – even minority group people as individuals. A great many minority people are socially very conservative and are not receptive to “Wokeness”. Of course, I’m not saying that we should try and convert them to our cause – but don’t be neurotic around them either – frightened of “putting-your-foot-in-it” at every waking moment. Everybody wants an easy life as opposed to this dystopian hell we’re all currently living through.

      However – just a bit of light relief!- a real life story! Listen! Listen! Listen! A lady,  It’s true! – one Rose Robinson from Norwich (incidentally, my home town) Norfolk, UK – her face, which would have perhaps not launched a thousand ships – but would have easily scuttled Kaiser Wilhelm’s fleet off of Scapa Flow way back in  1919, walks into a Sainsbury’s supermarket and SEES a beef steak joint labelled “Big Daddy”. She goes to the customer services desk – asking to speak to the manager! “The labeling on this piece of meat is sexist and wildly inappropriate” she says. She reactivates a defunct FaceBook account to spread the news of this patriarchal meat fascism. Oh the gales of mocking laughter in the comments section! Nobody came to the assistance of the poor woman – a mother of three (unfortunates?) Initially, I thought that this was a belated April Fool Gag – but it’s real!

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  14. S. Clark says:
    April 5, 2023 at 6:31 pm

    I enjoyed this article and the many varied comments. I think I haven’t exactly left white nationalism, but it is a movement that is in stasis from some active groups in the 1990’s, and seems stagnant, as many groups from all over now. Commentators have noted that the Internet, while a great tool, seems to have killed face-to-face contact, but this is with everyone. The movement is also seeing more of the country come closer to our arguments. When the system says its major domestic problem is “white supremacy,” people can’t help but take notice. We are seeing a system   perhaps beginning to collapse. This sounds like “the balloon going up” WNs have been waiting for, but we need to re-examine that and our hopes. I also have noted so many groups come and go, but CC does a great service in bringing disparate groups together and being a forum for thought and culture.

    Interestingly, Will Williams touches on Harold Covington, and I’m working on an analysis of his fiction.

     

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    1. DarkPlato says:
      April 6, 2023 at 8:47 am

      I look forward to that.  I wish too you would do a history of face to face groups you were involved with.

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  15. T Steuben says:
    April 5, 2023 at 9:03 pm

    I think a lot of guys don’t realize how much their friendship means to those of us who are more involved. Just being a friend to us is a form of activism even if they don’t do anything else because were human too. And just as with normie friends we are concerned if they drop off the face of the earth and are thrilled if they return.

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    1. Greg Johnson says:
      April 6, 2023 at 2:58 am

      This is a very good point.

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  16. Alexandra O says:
    April 7, 2023 at 11:46 am

    As an older person, I wish we get together somewhere in each state at least once a month or at least every quarter to meet in person to discuss ideas and come up ways to be more cohesive and instrumental to our cause.  And it would need to be during daylight hours because a lot of us have trouble with LED lighting on oncoming cars — you’ll understand this when you’re older.

    I think cohesiveness and personal involvement in the 48 lower states and with the 44 major European countries and their nationalist groups is important.  Through the horrid Ukraine invasion by Russia, as well as the association with Nick Jeelvy in Macedonia, I have gained insights into those two corners of Europe I had never seen before.  We all need to become more involved with our White kin worldwide.

    This post by Greg Johnson has given me great insight as to what is happening with our readers.

     

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    1. Hyacinth Bouquet says:
      April 8, 2023 at 2:01 am

      “And it would need to be during daylight hours because a lot of us have trouble with LED lighting on oncoming cars — you’ll understand this when you’re older.”

      ^^Yes — it is blinding!!  Anytime I drive after dark and confront that oncoming, disabling headlight glare, I think, HOW is this permitted?  What regulatory oversight genius thought that blinding drivers with the headlights of oncoming cars would be a good safety measure??

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  17. DM Anderson says:
    April 7, 2023 at 4:08 pm

    I guess I would object to the term “leaving” the movement. It is no easier to do that then to leave my role as father or husband.

    sometimes I fulfill the above roles more in Tinley then other times, but I’m never totally out of the role.

    At a minimum, I think we should read and post on sites like countercurrent and American renaissance, and if possible attend the national convention in Tennessee.

     

    at a minimum, I think we should read and post on sites like countercurrent‘s and American Renaissance, and if possible attend the national convention in Tennessee.

     

    I find any of the above activities important to resonate with my views, and obtain accumulating ammo For conversation and activities in general society and in my political activism.

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  18. Paul says:
    April 7, 2023 at 7:40 pm

    White Nationalism becomes more effect with the phrase “We shall not be replaced” and the cancel cultures rhetoric. I can’t see it going anywhere in the US other than that. Our neighbors and friends are mixed. Our neighborhoods are diverse. In Europe and other countries it makes more sense to preserve Ethnos and ancestral heritage . America is rainbow and that is what it is- a melting pot.  I generally go along with this quote:
    “Diversity can be tolerated so long as it does not disturb the Race ” or the Ethnos.
    The American Surrealist movement of 1996 had a collage that pictured the destruction of Greece , and its Myths that have a lot to do with our classical heritage . I oppose that. My political orientation is more Third Position so I believe that puts me somewhere in the position of sympathy as opposed to antipathy to the mission here. Spiritually the double faith of Christianity , i.e., Pagan/Christian is my orientation. Pagan meaning more Neo-Platonism, Hermeticism and the occult sciences.
    Kerry Bolton is one of my favorite contributors here .

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    1. DM Anderson says:
      April 8, 2023 at 5:14 am

      It is highly unlikely that we could create an “ethnostate” within the continental US, but enclaves and gated “private communities” certainly could be a thing, esp. in the Whitest towns within the Whitest 4-5 States ( Maine, Idaho, etc.)

      What we really need to do: continue to encourage discrete and distinct ethnic groups, such as Hispanics, Africans et al. to maintain their different dress, language and culture, so as to petrify them in their status as the “other.”

      Easier to isolate, separate and marginalize them.

      Even when their numbers eventually surpass European Americans in 20-30 years.

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  19. Hyacinth Bouquet says:
    April 9, 2023 at 2:48 am

    This entire article is so beautifully written, and it comes to me at just the moment when it was most needed.  Everything is so crazy-insane — everywhere, all the time.  Some days I think that I can’t absorb another blow.  Maybe I should disappear completely?  But it is as the author says:  I honestly, truly and sincerely, believe in the cause of White Nationalism.  There is no place else for me to go except to stay tuned in to the comforting (and, at times, confounding!) company of like-minded people.

     

    I am one of the lesser commenters, a real-life recluse, who could never hold a candle to the high-IQ company found here — and yet, even I have gained a sense of community from participating.

     

    Some of the comments I have read on this and other webzines have profoundly impacted my point of view, and even my worldview.  I have passed those ideas on, and those ideas have, indeed, impacted the choices I make in everyday life.

     

    Finally, simply reading and commenting does give one a sense of community; especially, when White Nationalists are vilified, demonized and hounded out of “polite” society.  Thank you, Counter-Currents!

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  20. HungarianFashionista says:
    April 24, 2023 at 12:59 am

    Very bad optics. The title should be changed, to say the least.

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Articles of May

Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One by Collin Cleary The Lunch Wars by David M. Zsutty 2 votes
    • Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 691
      Rob Rundo Returns

      Counter-Currents Radio

    • The Fragile Polity that is Syria

      Morris van de Camp

    • Nigel Farage Calls Britain a Two-Tier State

      Mark Gullick

    • Nationalism This Week
      Letter to J. D. Vance

      Greg Johnson

      15

    • Lost In Trans-Mission:
      How the Media Fails To Reveal the Inconvenient Truth About the Usual Suspects

      Steven Tucker

      9

    • Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!

      Beau Albrecht

      7

    • Editor’s Update
      Rob Rundo on Counter-Currents Radio, Fundraiser Update, & a New $20,000 Matching Grant

      Greg Johnson

    • The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part Three

      Collin Cleary

      10

    • Uncivil War

      Mark Gullick

      44

    • Exclusive Interview with Karel Veliky:
      The Final Chapter in the Film Series! Part II

      Ondrej Mann

      2

    • Happy Birthday to Us!

      Greg Johnson

      6

    • Zsutty’s Maximum

      David M. Zsutty

      16

    • Exclusive Interview with Karel Veliky:
      The Final Chapter in the Film Series! Part I

      Ondrej Mann

      2

    • The Union Jackal, June 2026

      Mark Gullick

      23

    • The Inferiority Behind Immigrant Superiority

      Jayant Bhandari

      15

    • Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 690
      Greg Johnson & David Zsutty Discuss Current Things: AI, Henry Nowak, the Iran Crisis, & More

      Counter-Currents Radio

      7

    • Collin Cleary: What Rome Means to Me

      Collin Cleary

      4

    • Paul Krugman: Closet Bolshevik

      Spencer J. Quinn

      21

    • Fugue of Ideas:
      Ibram X. Kendi’s Chain of Ideas

      Greg Johnson

      19

    • Based Blacks

      Lipton Matthews

      24

    • Black Intellectual Fatigue

      Derek Stark

      41

    • Why White Advocates Should Avoid “Based Blacks”

      Dani Vypont

      32

    • Nietzsche & Race

      Mark Gullick

    • Editor’s Update
      Rob Rundo Rescheduled to Next Week on Counter-Currents Radio;
      Tonight Greg Johnson & David Zsutty Answer Your Questions;
      Fundraiser Update & a New $20,000 Matching Grant

      Greg Johnson

    • The Counter-Currents 2026 Fundraiser
      Lifetime Subscriber Welcome Packages Extended

      Greg Johnson

    • Nationalism This Week
      Who’s Looking Back?

      Greg Johnson

      29

    • China’s Threat to American Security:
      Food, Farmland, Foreign Control, & Energy Policy

      Lipton Matthews

      5

    • The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part Two

      Collin Cleary

      16

    • The Killing of Henry Nowak

      Mark Gullick

      38

    • The Crisis of Chinese Technology Thieves

      Morris van de Camp

      1

    • The Strange World of Gender Bender Fiction:
      & What This Genre Tells Us About Autosexuality

      Dani Vypont

      3

    • Watching the Watchers:
      The Dark Triad Question

      David M. Zsutty

      14

    • The Remigration Movement Solidifies

      F. Roger Devlin

      2

    • Casting Aspersions:
      The Fatal Consequences of Race-Swapped Casting, From Helen of Troy to Henry of Southampton

      Steven Tucker

      20

    • The Murder of Henry Nowak

      Millennial Woes

      23

    • Don’t Forget to Vote in Our Writer & Article of the Month Poll

      Greg Johnson

    • The Robot Hotdog Stand

      Greg Johnson

      37

    • Laughing Our Way to Victory

      Dave Chambers

      7

    • The Zodiac Killer

      Mark Gullick

      11

    • Jared Taylor: What Rome Means to Me

      Jared Taylor

      1

    • An Interview with Endeavour:
      My Way of Life Is an Adventure!

      Ondrej Mann

      6

    • José Pedro Zúquete’s The Identitarians

      Greg Johnson

      3

    • Editor’s Update
      Fundraiser Update & How to Watch the Remigration Summit

      Greg Johnson

      5

    • The Bitter End of Western Metaphysics:
      Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One

      Collin Cleary

      12

    • Berlin: City of Stones

      Spencer J. Quinn

      6

    • True Folk-Horror Is Horror of Your Own Folk:
      Mark Gatiss vs the Brexit Blind Dead  

      Steven Tucker

      4

    • Counter-Currents Radio Podcast No. 689
      Thomas Massie, the America 2050 Bust, the Need for Whites to Divest from America, the AI Economic Apocalypse, & Pro-White Project Pitches to Billionaires

      Counter-Currents Radio

      7

    • Nationalism This Week
      Remigration is Inevitable, Part 3

      Greg Johnson

      27

    • Why Billionaires Should Fund White Identity Politics

      Lipton Matthews

      8

    • How Cold War Two Came About

      Morris van de Camp

      5

    • Greg Johnson

      Letter to J. D. Vance

      This is a great comment. Thank you. "Foreign wars on behalf of alien peoples are not an...

    • Greg Johnson

      Uncivil War

      How about you police your Refugees Welcome churches rather than police people who are telling the...

    • Dr. X

      Letter to J. D. Vance

      I voted for Donald Trump 5 times, counting primaries, and I live in a place where Trumo signs are as...

    • Paudi McCreevey

      Uncivil War

      Self-defeating wilful ignorance spouted on this platform that Christianity preaches open borders....

    • Beau Albrecht

      Letter to J. D. Vance

      True.  I just don't see Vance as being better.

    • Beau Albrecht

      Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!

      Excellent!  So should we all.

    • Beau Albrecht

      Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!

      Fair enough.  I'm aiming mostly at sellouts with this.

    • Beau Albrecht

      Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!

      Indeed; the way I see it, talk is cheap.

    • Greg Johnson

      Letter to J. D. Vance

      Trump is the traitor here, a traitor to the people who elected him. Vance would be the loyal one,...

    • Greg Johnson

      Letter to J. D. Vance

      This is the mentality that gave us Q-Anon.

    • Scott

      Letter to J. D. Vance

      Yes, it [the 25th Amendment plan] would be a disaster ─ a shot in the foot to the GOP instead of the...

    • Will Williams

      Based Blacks

      Greg Johnson: June 15, 2026 I would prefer you stay but just not read people who annoy you. Thanks...

    • CC reader

      Uncivil War

      Arminius, this account of maghreb men hired to protect against sub Saharan crime is illustrative of...

    • YT

      Letter to J. D. Vance

      I agree with this analysis and Trump removal aspiration, though I think it very far-fetched to...

    • Will Williams

      The Remigration Movement Solidifies 

      Perhaps, Roger, you or another C-C writer/researcher can take a deeper dive into this remigration...

    • Glide Ratio 0:1

      Letter to J. D. Vance

      In any other country that outcome could be a good thing, the party that "conserves" breaks apart and...

    • Glide Ratio 0:1

      Letter to J. D. Vance

      Really good article. The optics outlined of how the war played out is bang on in my opinion. I'd...

    • Dave Chambers

      Letter to J. D. Vance

      If Vance got the Cabinet to remove Trump against his will, wouldn't this cause most of MAGA to view...

    • Judas (commenter formerly known as Gam)

      Letter to J. D. Vance

      Maybe I'm a cultist and have been confused and confounded by Svengali Trump, but I think things have...

    • Derek Stark

      Lost In Trans-Mission

      And then there's this: https://news.gallup.com/poll/710810/support-lgbtq-issues-remains-down-peak...

    • Earth Day Special

      John Morgan

      12

    • A Robertson Roundup
      Remembering Wilmot Robertson
      (April 16, 1915 – July 8, 2005)

      Margot Metroland

      13

    • The Paranoid Style in White Nationalism

      Greg Johnson

      30

    • Join the Dance!

      Andrew Hamilton

      1

    • We Can’t Save the Earth Without Reducing African Birth Rates

      James Dunphy

      36

    • “I’m Not a Conspiracy Theorist, but . . .”:
      Jeffrey Epstein’s Death Gives New Life to “Conspiracy Theories”

      Greg Johnson

      22

    • Sylvia Plath: Stasis in Darkness

      Vic Olvir

      17

    • Vanguardism, Vantardism, & Mainstreaming

      Greg Johnson

      80

    • Aviation, Geography, & Race

      Charles Lindbergh

      3

    • Some Thoughts on Yule

      Collin Cleary

      4

    • Living in Truth:
      A Yuletide Homily

      Jef Costello

      7

    • John Kennedy Toole’s A Confederacy of Dunces

      Greg Johnson

      20

    • On Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s Warning to the West

      Spencer J. Quinn

      7

    • Elitism, British Modernism, & Wyndham Lewis

      Jonathan Bowden

      6

    • Philip K. Dick’s Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? as Anti-Semitic/Christian-Gnostic Allegory

      Greg Johnson

      20

    • “Conspiracy Theory” or Conspiracy?

      Andrew Hamilton

      21

    • Remembering H. P. Lovecraft
      (August 20, 1890–March 15, 1937)

      Greg Johnson

      3

    • Who Are We?
      Nordics, Aryans, & Whites

      Greg Johnson

      71

    • Remembering William Gayley Simpson
      (July 23, 1892–December 31, 1990)
      A Pleasant Afternoon with Harriet & Bill Simpson

      Margot Metroland

      18

    • Here are the Young Men
      Remembering Ian Curtis
      (July 15, 1956–May 18, 1980)

      Mark Gullick

      18

    • Percy Grainger
      Artist of the Right

      Alex Graham

      7

    • Remembering Revilo Oliver
      (July 7, 1908–August 20, 1994)

      Greg Johnson

      18

    • The Meaning of July 4th for the White Man

      Gregory Hood

      13

    • The Front National’s Evolution

      Bruno Mégret

    • Merwin K. Hart
      Forgotten American Hero & Man of the Right

      Morris van de Camp

      10

    • George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four

      Jonathan Bowden

      8

    • Carleton S. Coon
      Scientist & Reluctant White Advocate

      Morris van de Camp

      3

    • The Kwanzaa Absurdity Will Be Dwarfed by Juneteenth

      Robert Hampton

      10

    • Stravinsky

      Alex Graham

      7

    • Like the Roman:
      Remembering Enoch Powell (1912-1998)

      Mark Gullick

      23

    • The 1970s: The Golden Age of Hijacking

      Morris van de Camp

      21

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 6

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Do You Want to Play a Game?

      Mark Gullick

      1

    • Sexually Incontinent on the Indian Subcontinent:
      Who Rapes More Animals, Indians or Pakistanis? The Battle Continues!

      Steven Tucker

      3

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 5

      Karel Veliky

      15

    • The Game of Tarot

      Mark Gullick

      2

    • Institutions Cannot Be Transplanted

      Jayant Bhandari

      5

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 5

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Crosstown Traffic:
      Jimi Hendrix & The Post-War Rock ‘N’ Roll Revolution

      Mark Gullick

      1

    • Slaves from the North:
      Finns & Karelians in the East European Slave Trade, 900–1600

      Lipton Matthews

      14

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 4

      Karel Veliky

      2

    • David Lean’s A Passage to India

      Spencer J. Quinn

      1

    • Elites are Essential to Development

      Lipton Matthews

      7

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 4

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 3

      Karel Veliky

      6

    • E. M. Forster’s A Passage to India & the Indian Mentality

      Spencer J. Quinn

      25

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 3

      Jonathan Bowden

    • The Rest Is Silence
      Heidegger’s Quietism

      Mark Gullick

      2

    • Dispelling the Historical Fallacy of Indian Nationalism

      Lipton Matthews

      8

    • Neo-Fascism in Film
      Part 2

      Karel Veliky

      8

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance
      Part 2

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Life of a Klansman

      Mark Gullick

      8

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Deliverance, Part 1

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Decolonial Ideas are Holding Back Developing Countries

      Lipton Matthews

      8

    • Neo-fascism in Film, Part 1

      Karel Veliky

      21

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 8
      Divigations on Decadence

      Jonathan Bowden

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 7
      Intrigues in the National Front

      Jonathan Bowden

      1

    • Rotten to the Core

      Mark Gullick

      8

    • Strauss on Husserl’s “Philosophy as Rigorous Science”

      Greg Johnson

    • Jonathan Bowden’s Onslaught, Part 6
      Francis Bacon & Right-Wing Nihilism

      Jonathan Bowden

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Writer & Article of the Month May 2026

Voting for this month has concluded. Here are the final results!

Top Writers

  • #1 Morris van de Camp 2 votes
  • #2 David M. Zsutty 2 votes
  • #3 Derek Stark 2 votes
  • #4 Jayant Bhandari 2 votes
  • #5 Greg Johnson 2 votes
  • #6 Jared Taylor 1 vote
  • #7 Collin Cleary 1 vote
  • #8 Spencer J. Quinn 1 vote
  • #9 Mark Gullick 1 vote
  • #10 Lipton Matthews 1 vote
  • #11 Keith Woods 1 vote
  • #12 Steven Tucker 1 vote

Top Articles

  • #1 Heidegger on Nietzsche, Part One 2 votes
  • #2 The Lunch Wars 2 votes
  • #3 The 1970s: The Golden Age of Hijacking 1 vote
  • #4 True Folk-Horror Is Horror of Your Own Folk 1 vote
  • #5 Finding Atlantis Part 4 1 vote
  • #6 Berlin: City of Stones 1 vote
  • #7 The Ghost of the Confederacy 1 vote
  • #8 Lothrop Stoddard’s The Revolt Against Civilization 1 vote
  • #9 Could Fascism Work? 1 vote
  • #10 Jared Taylor's Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire 1 vote
  • #11 Predation Wearing the Mask of Civilization 1 vote
  • #12 Peak Fatigue in Fort Wayne 1 vote
  • #13 Keith Wood's Elevator Pitch to a Billionaire 1 vote
  • #14 Do You Want to Play a Game? 1 vote
  • #15 Why Billionaires Should Fund White Identity Politics 1 vote

Total votes cast: 17

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