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I try to avoid the subject of the upcoming election because honestly, I see validity in both the pro- and anti- Trump arguments. I’m not sure there would be much difference between Trump and Kamala in how they govern. Yes, Kamala is promising to grant amnesty to millions of people. That doesn’t mean she will actually do it. Amnesty has long been a carrot that the Democrats have dangled but never seem to give when they have the chance. I don’t know if they can’t get it done or if they just like having the issue left unresolved so that they can keep the carrot. They might make a serious attempt at amnesty or they might not.
I personally cannot bring myself to shill for Trump. Part of this is personal pride. He’s done nothing to earn my vote. Another part is for my own mental and emotional well-being. You can only break my heart so many times before I’m not going to give you another chance to hurt me. I’m done getting my hopes up. That said, I see the merits of a second Trump term, but I don’t expect him to follow through on his more desirable promises. His less desirable ones, like stamping out antisemitism, sure, but I will believe the deportations when I see them.
For me, it’s a question of whether Trump or Kamala would be better for “the movement.” Which would create a better environment for our ideas to thrive in? Some might say that the Dissident Right is at its best when it is on the offense, so Kamala would be better. However, there seems to be something going on in the backrooms of the GOP. While the vast majority of Republican politicians are bought-and-paid-for shills for Israel, a lot of them are increasingly surrounded by people with our views. It’s been said that every Republican intern has a groyper Twitter account, or is a BAPist or some other flavor of non-traditional rightist.
Last year, it came out that Mike Benz, a conservative censorship expert and friend of Charlie Kirk and Elon Musk, used to be the Alt Right livestreamer Frame Game Radio. I remember when that guy used to do stream with Luke Ford and JF Gariepy. Now he has the ear of some of the most influential people in America.
People have been wondering why old Alt Right talking points have suddenly been coming out of the mouths of people we normally thought of as Con Inc shills. Some of it is that we finally have a free-ish speech platform, so there’s less fear of getting banned. But what if part of it is a delayed reaction of the Alt Right’s impact finally being felt institutionally? If you think about it, someone who was a 22-year-old intern in 2016 when the Alt Right was at its peak would be turning 30 this year. He will have moved up the ladder and made connections. In other words, someone who was 22 at the Alt Right’s peak would just now be getting into positions of influence and have the ear of important people.
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Mike Benz and Richard Hanania are just the guys who got caught. How many others are out there? Benz and Hanania got caught because they were content creators. If all someone did was consume content, never went to a meet-up, and lurked the message boards but never posted, he will never be caught. At its peak, the top Alt Right outlets were getting hundreds of thousands of views per week. I have a hard time believing that only two people who were around in those days managed to infiltrate Con Inc and that both of them got caught.
When an archetypical shill like Charlie Kirk starts talking about white identity or Candace Owens starts talking about Jews or Tucker starts promoting WWII revisionism, you will hear people say, “Oh, I bet they’ve been listening to so-and-so’s show.” And who knows? Maybe they have. But much of it is due to their producers, writers, assistants, and advisors being increasingly red-pilled. It has just taken this long for the people who were red-pilled in 2016 to get to a position where they can influence things. And this will continue. In a couple years, the Internet Bloodsports dividends will start kicking in when the people who were 22 when Spencer vs Sargon happened turn 30. Then the year after that, the people who were 22 when the Groyper Wars happened will turn 30.
Some say Con Inc’s adoption of Dissident Right talking points is insincere election year banter. It may very well be. It’s a positive sign that white nationalists are now a big enough and/or influential enough demographic in the right-wing ecosphere that they now must pay some lip service to us like they do with pro-lifers and 2nd Amendment enthusiasts. But even doing it as an insincere op requires them to have someone on staff who is fluent enough in our talking points and knows how to sell them.
Another eyebrow-raising event happened earlier this week when Patrick Casey had an article published in The Blaze. Yes, that Patrick Casey. The Identity Europa guy. Yes, that The Blaze. The Glenn Beck outlet. Now, there are a lot of people giving Patrick Casey a hard time lately claiming that he’s been pulling his punches on the JQ ever since he started getting a degree of mainstream respectability. I think Casey’s mainstream success is a milestone to be celebrated because it shows that White Nationalism is no longer the social death sentence it used to be. Unlike Mike Benz and Richard Hanania, who made Alt Right content pseudonymously and then were outed only after having established themselves within Con Inc, The Blaze was well aware of Patrick Casey’s White Nationalist past when they published him.
If you want to be a purist, you can argue that Patrick Casey is a sell out, and while he recovered from Charlottesville and climbed back into polite society, he did so at the cost of his immortal soul. Or it could be that Casey is an incrementalist. I can respect someone who wants to make a pragmatic calculation that by being X% less pure, they can reach a Y% larger audience. In a cost-benefit analysis, the compromise is still a strategic net gain for the cause.
Cynics might argue that rather than white nationalists infiltrating Con Inc, what is actually happening is that Con Inc is co-opting the white nationalist movement which they intend to deradicalize and integrate into the party apparatus. You can argue which is which but I can tell you that I read a lot of Antifa Twitter and I can tell you that stuff like this really freaks them out.
Say what you will about The Blaze, but it is “respectable.” Normies watch The Blaze. To Antifa, a guy with “White Nationalist” on his permanent record being allowed a platform on one of the more “respectable” Con Inc outlets is extremely concerning because it normalizes White Nationalism. Purists might argue that if Casey had to stop being a TRVE white nationalist to go mainstream, then what is he actually normalizing. Antifa does not see it this way and would say that’s not even the point. The point is a “No Nazis” glass ceiling has been smashed. Now it’s a question of “How Nazi?” For now, it’s just “former Nazis,” but then it will be current ones. It also gives permission to every conservative outlet less prestigious than The Blaze to go ahead and let “Nazis” on.
Basically, Antifa does not believe that white nationalism can be co-opted. They believe that if you allow fascism to take root anywhere it will spread like a virus and take over if left unchecked. Antifa’s concern is that once you let the Nazi into the club, they will start trying to red-pill the other members. Maybe they will start bringing in their fascist friends.. It was, after all, a conservative government that appointed Hitler chancellor believing that they could control him. They thought they could “co-opt” the Nazis only for the Nazis to take over the entire government.
Now, a lot of Antifa fears strike me as paranoid, and there are incentives for them to exaggerate the danger, but I think they are onto something here. Even if he had to water down the message to do it, a guy who marched at Charlottesville and led one of the most famous White Nationalist organizations in America being granted the respectability of Glenn Beck’s brand is a win for White Nationalism, even if a lot of White Nationalists don’t see it that way. I think we’ve become spoiled in the Elon era. This would have been a big deal had it happened three years ago.
The best reason I can think of to support Trump is that if there has been some degree of Dissident Right infiltration into the Con Inc establishment, and there appears to have been some (more in the media apparatus than the party apparatus), then yes, a Republican victory would be beneficial for the cause. Whatever converts we have inside would come out of the next four years with more experience and connections with a GOP victory.
The problem is that we don’t know how extensive the infiltration is. According to Antifa journalist Amanda Moore, white nationalist infiltration of the GOP is pretty much common knowledge among political insiders and is so widespread that media outlets no longer consider it newsworthy.
It is possible that Ms. Moore is exaggerating to make anti-fascists look like plucky underdogs, but who knows?
I’m not saying we should all jump on the GOP bandwagon, but I’m curious to see where this trend goes. We might have to start thinking about the GOP the way we think about the military. The US military is a mercenary force for global capitalism and the Zionist lobby, and in principle, there is no moral case for why a white person should join it. And yet, there are some who might argue that White Nationalists could join the military and gain skills and experience that they could then contribute towards the cause when they get out. Similarly, although the GOP is irredeemably evil in its present state, it might be worth getting into for the experience. Spend a few years filling the rolodex and learning the game so that when a pro-white politician comes along and gets elected, they will have competent and ideologically reliable staff available. Or use that knowledge and those connections to start your own pro-white organization.
The GOP may never be a truly White Nationalist party, but if they are tolerating the presence of White Nationalists (and ever so slowly, this appears to be the case), it may be of some use to us after all.
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Normalizing a White Ethnostate is what we need to be emphasizing. We could do it with traditional understandings like, “Let’s keep the riff raff out of our neighborhoods” paired with “Its okay that white people are genetically preserved, that’s truly conservative.”
Tell people about one giant white conservative neighborhood with out the blood shed and immorality from Liberal Brown cities. White GOPers are going to be convinced in my view.
I’m not sure where you live or whether you’ve been keeping company with Rip Van Winkle, but we are a long way from being able to talk about genetics in that context again.
Thanks. I found this well-written and persuasive.
We can and must take over the GOP. It’s that simple. The best way is to ditch the anti-Zionism, focus relentlessly on immigration and mass deportations (and black crime and DEI garbage), win on some of those issues, then keep opening the Overton window ever further. You gotta start somewhere in the real world. We will never go from online activism straight to a sovereign Ethostate. That should be obvious.
‘Anti-Zionism’ is the only thing that keeps White Nationalism White. In the end, it’s one of the winning positions that White Nationalists have. It distinguishes WN from generic ‘liberal’ politics in a way that being generically ‘pro-White’ does not.
If you think Whites cannot have a White Ethnostate, you’re not a White Nationalist. To be a ‘White Nationalist’ is to work toward the White Ethnostate no matter how long it takes.
Whites are a stateless people. The jews are not. The jews want to deny Whites a state. Consequently, White Nationalists have no reason to affirm a jewish ethnostate.
Agree. All our problems began incrementally and cant be fixed hoping for a miracle 3rd party candidate, who will simply “split the vote” for Republicans and guarantee Democratic victory. The 30 something fifth column-ists in the GOP are going to need jobs, so a Trump victory will keep some of them from jumping to the corporate world or softening their stances to stay employed. Agree that anti-zionism has been nothing but a loser for this movement. I’m not the though police out to change anyone’s views, but getting to vocal about it simply shuts down any mainstream aspiration for white identity. The leftist Muslim, Palestinian, BLM, college student contingent has been way more damaging to Zionism in the past year of protests than various hard right contingents probably ever have.
Look at the bigger picture.
There are nationalist and populist movements gaining ground worldwide: Alternative for Germany, National Rally in France, Patriot Front in the UK, Vox Spain, Hungary’s Orban. Plus the people taking it to the streets in the British Isles against third world migrant-invaders. A victory for Trump in the coming election will enhance the morale and standing of these movements. A defeat for Trump will vindicate the anti-populist/anti-nationalist fronts.
The emerging Trump coalition here in the USA includes figures across the spectrum from Elon Musk to RFK jr, along with such key influencers as Tucker Carlson. A Trump victory will push these influencers into positions of power, formal or informal. A defeat means a fragmentation of the coalition.
Consider that a Trump victory which enhances Musk’s position might be translated into some US backing for besieged whites in South Africa.
If the Dissident Right pulls the plug on the support for Trump, then Alt Right figures who are now emerging in the Republican hierarchy will be left out on a limb. And all those Trump supporters in flyover country will likely see the Dissident Right as sabotaging their one true champion. Then try to push Dissident Right ideas in MAGA America.
The coming election is not a popularity contest. And if it’s not for all the marbles then it is for the right of national-populist movements to play in a much longer game.
Think global national-populist.
Vote accordingly.
The GOP is a jewish organization. It’s not a White organization. If the jews that run the GOP are flirting with ‘dissident’ persons, what they’re not doing is advocating ‘dissident’ ideas. And they won’t as long as White suckers give the GOP their vote and get nothing in return. No jew would ever be that stupid. Why ‘pro-Whites’ persist in thinking that there is a ‘good enough’ when it comes to being pandered to is beyond me.
You may be on to something. For a long time David Cole has claimed that Tucker has been stealing his material. It probably is one of Tuck’s assistants, but so what.
The Blaze can be Okay at times, but listening to Glenn Beck grovel at the feet of the Jews is enough to put you off your food.
In one of his FNC monologues a few years ago Tucker Carlson (or one of his writers) seemingly copied portions of the script of a Jared Taylor video on Columbus Day. I have a copy of the side-by-side video showing the similarities between the two.
Most Republicans follow the lead of Fox News and the big social media conservative influencers. Whatever becomes normalized or accepted on FNC or increasingly on mainstream online outlets will be what many of them adopt as their own positions.
Can you imagine having to listen to KA-MA-LA’s voice and laugh for 4 m0re years?
That alone! Please!
Kamala Harris is a Deep State puppet and a tool of the Jews.
For me [Travis LeBlanc] it’s a question of whether Trump or Kamala would be better for “the movement.”…
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With all due respect, Mr. Leblanc, Trump v. Mrs. Emhoff has very little to do either way with the greater big tent “movement.” I’ll cast a vote for Trump while holding my nose because for a man of my race, no matter what a disastrous poltroon he is, his Marxist mongrel opponent cannot have it. He just may buy racial nationalists a little time.
That aside, John Massaro has just written the definitive piece, exposing Donald Trump for the unique sociopath is, available here: “Let’s Talk About Donald Trump” at nationalvanguard.org — a must read for political junkies.
…Donald Trump is the most Jewish non-Jew I have ever come across. Just in this month of October, perhaps goaded by his Jewish son-in-law Jarod Kushner, a flaming Zionist, he has been doubling down on his fanatical devotion to Israel, his opposition to domestic Jew haters, as he calls them, and his belligerence towards Iran. His friendship with Jews, his fervent support of Israel, his warm speeches to Jewish groups, and sympathy for all the terrible things they supposedly went through – all this and more is so well-documented that even many normies know about it. Neo-con con man Mark Levin once introduced Trump as “the first Jewish president” which made Donald smile. Trump once even implied that anti-Semitism should be punishable by death. Nor does he have any problem associating with Jewish perverts. After his father Fred, himself a real estate racketeer, Donald’s most important mentor as a young man was the famous lawyer Roy Cohn, whom he most admired for his toughness and loyalty, though Cohn had a reputation as New York’s most corrupt “fixer,” which Trump was well aware of. (TAOTD, page 68: “I don’t kid myself about Roy. He was no Boy Scout. He once told me that he’d spent more than two-thirds of his adult life under indictment on one charge or another..”) He was also aware that Cohn was a homosexual (he died of AIDS in 1986), a low profile type who nevertheless attended many social functions with handsome young men. None of these things bothered Trump, nor, years later, did the thinly veiled sex crimes of pedophile Jeffrey Epstein (“Jeff’s a terrific guy”) which later became public knowledge, after which Epstein, a Mossad blackmailer, supposedly committed suicide in a jail cell, though some maintain that he’s alive and well in Israel today. (I doubt that, but anything is possible with these people.) Another creature Trump looked up to was Steve Rubell, co-founder of New York City’s Studio 54, which for three years in the late 1970s was the ultimate in debauchery for the rich and famous and for ordinary losers who were able to get in. If you’ve never heard of Studio 54 you should read about it on the net. Like Roy Cohn, who he had used as a lawyer, Rubell was a Jewish queer who died of AIDS, and unlike Cohn went to prison for tax evasion, but not before it was revealed that he had masturbated on a huge pile of cash the club had taken in…
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